In metal ranks, reaper is for sure an S, with the lack of mechanics to punish his agro. If you learn the basics of playing off angles and popping in and out of cover he’s instant plat or at least gold. I do understand this vid is more about diamond and above though.
Reaper main here I promise you he is not S he is A at most for starters his blossom is a joke. And when a tank chases you unless it’s roadhog your so getting smoked, if you wanna get best out of Reeba I’d play with your team, his tp is okay now but really you should only be using it to set up a flank. And only flank like one support or a dps anymore you can get value but it’s basically suicide and when you’ve used wraith if your still getting chased your dead
If you learn those thing then you will get out of metal ranks no matter which character u play. It’s harder on certain characters like tracer but that’s because her micro is crazy hard.
@@himagnsinha1541with all do respect you will never be in gold if you know how to play any character unless u can’t even play the game because of 9000 ping.
I do agree that bastion is complete garbage to play as, simply because his hitbox is the size of most tanks. Due to this, it is very easy to die as bastion. If I were to change something about bastion, I substitute 25 health for armour, so that you don't die as easily. Maybe also increase the damage of Recon, but he already deals the most amount of damage of any hero, so I don't think he needs more damage.
So true, reaper kills him so fast as all of his bullets hit all of the time so some extra armour could help at least stopping him getting lifesteal and making a bit easier to win
Ever since the beginning of this season, I've seen more Widowmaker players (mostly because of her mythic skin), and she definitely needs a nerf. I wouldn't change her falloff range (maybe the smg falloff, because 20-40 metres is too long for a short range weapon, 15-30 metres sounds more reasonable), but rather her scoped damage and I want I to be reduced from 12 to 10 (initial damage before charging). Her critical damage multiplier is still 2.5, however her maximum damage is now only 250, so that she is in line with the other heroes that can 1-shot, and I believe that 250 is the maximum amount of damage that a weapon can do. I hate Widowmaker's 1-shot, however because it's so essential to her kit I'm not removing it, but rather reducing the damage so that you can no longer 1-shot heroes with 275 or 300 health.
At 1:30 seconds in and i’m already disagreeing lol, soma’s change was not that crazy they turned her into a real dps she has to try to get kills now and staying with the team is more beneficial.
I'm sorry but Sombras change isn't that serious, people are just being dramatic about it because she isn't gonna get easy wins anymore and Widow is way too oppressive, 1 shotting the way she does makes the game slower and less fun, even Hanzos charge for a one tap is longer and he can't scope
@@quantum_psi If you rely on lucky projectiles for your kills, sure. But a player above Plat with decent aim get can always get better value of long sightline maps vs Hanzo
Widow will always be a feast or famine character, regardless of the meta. As long she retains her one shot, she will always be oppressive granted whoever is playing her lands their heads hots. But the moment someone who is hot garbage plays her, she becomes the most useless hero. Feast or famine, regardless of the meta
They can fix sombra by making her stealth 6 seconds and her blink 5 seconds cuz then she has the room too still be stealthy if she doesn't see an opening
At 5:07, what a stupid imbalance if you need team coordination to counter a hero (a non-tank one). Widow, a one-hit kill, is an abomination, a complete anti-fun for this game. If a Widow is shooting at someone, he can't shoot at her back, and all she's risking is missing and losing an auto-replenish bullet.
Anyone complaining about their placing this isn’t for the people in platinum and below this is based off of ACTUALLY SKILLED PLAYERS and what they play. Get over it or get better
I swear both apex and Overwatch gameleap channels b having the most disingenuous takes when it comes to tier list. Like does this person not know that widow is meta ? Reaper is also meta too right now as well. If you’re talking about skill issue then it makes sense if this person is just bad at playing widow but that shouldn’t dictate the ranking since widow is even being heavily played in nonranked games.
Meta is what pros play. This isn’t going to help you rank up in ur games. Widow just got massive nerfs because many of her top maps are harder to play. When u get dove in ur rank games ur gonna switch because u don’t know how to play around it. This list is for people who can use it. For the pros widow is used as bait that the other team needs to respect and can have high impact moments. Literally all of that will be useless and not exist in ur games. If your playing to be bait you will not rank up. U need to be the one getting value. Ur also not going to command the same level of respect and their team will not be forced to play around u to the same degree. It is a lot more debatable whether widow is even meta. When characters are being played in pro play because they are overturned then that means it will be free wins in ranked. This is not widow at the moment so she is not crazy in ranked.
lol people saying sombras nerfs arnt serious... her timing for her relocator is thrown off by a little bit.. even that messes you up.. thats like adding time to tracers recall after 10 years.. and sombra had one of the if not the worst win rates at all ranks.. so yea she went from bad to DS.
dont put Genji so high. I already see the undeserved nerfs -_- What do you guys think of a 12% ult reduction for blade? Wouldnt make him a lot stronger, but way more fun to play
Reaper is definitely at least A tier. He has the highest win rate in GM right now in the DPS role
WIDOW IN B?! This is either AI-made or sub-Gold made.
so yoru sub gold
Widow easy S tier especially when pocketed by a mercy
In metal ranks, reaper is for sure an S, with the lack of mechanics to punish his agro. If you learn the basics of playing off angles and popping in and out of cover he’s instant plat or at least gold. I do understand this vid is more about diamond and above though.
I 100% agree. People don't know how to deal with reaper in gold if you don't know how to play him
See many reapers using wraith form to go in
Reaper main here I promise you he is not S he is A at most for starters his blossom is a joke. And when a tank chases you unless it’s roadhog your so getting smoked, if you wanna get best out of Reeba I’d play with your team, his tp is okay now but really you should only be using it to set up a flank. And only flank like one support or a dps anymore you can get value but it’s basically suicide and when you’ve used wraith if your still getting chased your dead
If you learn those thing then you will get out of metal ranks no matter which character u play. It’s harder on certain characters like tracer but that’s because her micro is crazy hard.
@@himagnsinha1541with all do respect you will never be in gold if you know how to play any character unless u can’t even play the game because of 9000 ping.
I do agree that bastion is complete garbage to play as, simply because his hitbox is the size of most tanks. Due to this, it is very easy to die as bastion. If I were to change something about bastion, I substitute 25 health for armour, so that you don't die as easily. Maybe also increase the damage of Recon, but he already deals the most amount of damage of any hero, so I don't think he needs more damage.
So true, reaper kills him so fast as all of his bullets hit all of the time so some extra armour could help at least stopping him getting lifesteal and making a bit easier to win
Ever since the beginning of this season, I've seen more Widowmaker players (mostly because of her mythic skin), and she definitely needs a nerf. I wouldn't change her falloff range (maybe the smg falloff, because 20-40 metres is too long for a short range weapon, 15-30 metres sounds more reasonable), but rather her scoped damage and I want I to be reduced from 12 to 10 (initial damage before charging). Her critical damage multiplier is still 2.5, however her maximum damage is now only 250, so that she is in line with the other heroes that can 1-shot, and I believe that 250 is the maximum amount of damage that a weapon can do.
I hate Widowmaker's 1-shot, however because it's so essential to her kit I'm not removing it, but rather reducing the damage so that you can no longer 1-shot heroes with 275 or 300 health.
It would be very cool and more fair especially as a support main. She can be very oppressive and put a lot of pressure on the other team
mostly cause sombra is shit now and people dont know how to counter widow without her lol
She has 200 health.
At 1:30 seconds in and i’m already disagreeing lol, soma’s change was not that crazy they turned her into a real dps she has to try to get kills now and staying with the team is more beneficial.
I'm sorry but Sombras change isn't that serious, people are just being dramatic about it because she isn't gonna get easy wins anymore and Widow is way too oppressive, 1 shotting the way she does makes the game slower and less fun, even Hanzos charge for a one tap is longer and he can't scope
Hanzo is still a better Widow for 95% of the playerbase
Shes still S tier, but she takes skill now.
People who think hanzo is a sniper character..
@@quantum_psi
If you rely on lucky projectiles for your kills, sure. But a player above Plat with decent aim get can always get better value of long sightline maps vs Hanzo
Widow will always be a feast or famine character, regardless of the meta. As long she retains her one shot, she will always be oppressive granted whoever is playing her lands their heads hots. But the moment someone who is hot garbage plays her, she becomes the most useless hero. Feast or famine, regardless of the meta
They can fix sombra by making her stealth 6 seconds and her blink 5 seconds cuz then she has the room too still be stealthy if she doesn't see an opening
Putting widow in b tier is insane her and tracer are easily the best dps in the game
Right? Top 3 dps rn are widow, tracer and ashe
@@Pissandra_0.0 yeah they're easily the 3 best
Tracer, Widow and Ashe/Sojourn
Widow in B!?!?!? That character is in every game atm!
At 5:07, what a stupid imbalance if you need team coordination to counter a hero (a non-tank one). Widow, a one-hit kill, is an abomination, a complete anti-fun for this game. If a Widow is shooting at someone, he can't shoot at her back, and all she's risking is missing and losing an auto-replenish bullet.
I love sombra right now she’s my favorite dps and I’m one tricking her this season
Anyone complaining about their placing this isn’t for the people in platinum and below this is based off of ACTUALLY SKILLED PLAYERS and what they play. Get over it or get better
i main Bastion and always go ham with him. the hitbox is insanely big tho
I swear both apex and Overwatch gameleap channels b having the most disingenuous takes when it comes to tier list. Like does this person not know that widow is meta ? Reaper is also meta too right now as well. If you’re talking about skill issue then it makes sense if this person is just bad at playing widow but that shouldn’t dictate the ranking since widow is even being heavily played in nonranked games.
Meta is what pros play. This isn’t going to help you rank up in ur games. Widow just got massive nerfs because many of her top maps are harder to play. When u get dove in ur rank games ur gonna switch because u don’t know how to play around it. This list is for people who can use it. For the pros widow is used as bait that the other team needs to respect and can have high impact moments. Literally all of that will be useless and not exist in ur games. If your playing to be bait you will not rank up. U need to be the one getting value. Ur also not going to command the same level of respect and their team will not be forced to play around u to the same degree. It is a lot more debatable whether widow is even meta. When characters are being played in pro play because they are overturned then that means it will be free wins in ranked. This is not widow at the moment so she is not crazy in ranked.
Sym is bordering on S in clash I’ve found
lol people saying sombras nerfs arnt serious... her timing for her relocator is thrown off by a little bit.. even that messes you up.. thats like adding time to tracers recall after 10 years.. and sombra had one of the if not the worst win rates at all ranks.. so yea she went from bad to DS.
I feel like this was made by someone who has never played this game.
I get Junkrat is pretty mid, but with the right player, in a good situation he is 100% s tier, very very high skill ceiling
dont put Genji so high. I already see the undeserved nerfs -_- What do you guys think of a 12% ult reduction for blade? Wouldnt make him a lot stronger, but way more fun to play
S rank is Ashe, Widow and Tracer
2/3 are mains, I’m winning this season
Personally believe ow1 bastion should return or give bastion is self repair ability (yes bias )
They need to buff soldier now pls
i dont agree with this tierlist like 5 people deserve to be higher or lower.
Disagree with several of your tier placements. I am a high masters 1 player and some of these just aren't accurate...
I’m sorry but bob is absolutely useless right now
Don’t think I’ve died to bob since the season started.
Lost all credibility putting Widow in B
Junkrat B for sure...
Sombra is still insane.
I wouldn’t say insane, but she’s still decent
Buff my boy reaper
Sym over widow 😂😂😂
Who made this list a metal rank try hard😂😂😂
This tier list is a joke
Even more poor 2nd comment 😭
Poor 3rd commenters
Take this video down lol.
LOL poor first commenters
Sombra deserves it methinks
Terrible list lol
Really used the pronouns 😂