How about the other way around? Make a new golden seat variant so people can have seats, veterans would want to buy it and still have their early access reward. There is so many ways how it could have been done better.
I agree or better yet you know give us a exclusive badge for vets, or a exclusive color...something more noticeable then a seat, hell a exclusive taunt for vets that says one of the old promo codes, that would be neat In the end I agree being a proud owner of a retro seat myself this kinda feels like the vets have been given a kick in the balls.
Robocraft reminds me of trove by now just cuz of that: make time exclusive stuff and laterbl sell it/make it craftable (both diff games but developers acting the same
it kinda IS a kick to the balls if you ask me. When i got them i was like: "wow, they didn´t need to but it is a really nice gift i really like it" when i saw one in the shop i was like: "wow ... exclusive my ass, if they wanted to give it to everyone why not so in the first place"
R E S P E C T A L L V E T E R A N S Edit: Actually, selling classic versions of the cubes would be sick. I've only played this game for 2 years now, but I love all the old stuff. Massive Iq Idea to add some sort of "Cube skin" EDIT 2019: hey look at that, they took your idea grom. Maybe they'll start taking other smart ideas too?
I totally agree with pretty much everything you said. But as a little aside, when it comes to the gold weapons, i'd be happy if other players could unlock them, in some special way. Since they are so big and flashy, others will see them and be "cool, how do I get them". But when it comes to the seats, they are really only something that the builder of the bot would know about, they are harder to see, so less people will feel like they are missing out, if that makes any sense. They were something for the owner to pat themselves on the back for, not something to be gawked over, like the golden parts.
But what about all the hard fuckin work i did for my golden parts? You're suggesting someone can come along and pay 5 bucks for a substitute for all the time and money for premium i spent?
So I'll get those golden guns after all. I could have but was too... distracted away from Robocraft that I just didn't know about that. All the millions of Robits are wortless again...
Just a note for possible future conflict, The older post describing the Seat Veteran Rewards is still in the Steam News page for Robocraft, You'll just need to scroll a considerable distance down the page to find it
oh man, having unlocked the classic cape on runescape for playing the game back in the early 2000s, imagining jagex doing this kind of low blow would really devalue the prestige of having such an item, in the way that's happened here in robocraft
@@SaltCan the worst a game company can do is lie to their costumers, like what the no man sky dude did,man,i remenber all the rage that guy ocassionate, if you make a game, and you dont have costumers them you are fucked,every decent company know that not fall in bankrupt they need to care about their costumers,withour costumers no money. i hope they give a apology so the rage decrease.
This is something that I definitely agree with: they were a one-time item that happened with a one-time event... and it's important to keep the limited time edition things exclusive, as it gives the owners of those items a certain level of prestige. People who have been playing the game for a long time like many of this channels core subscriber base are going to feel betrayed by this... and that's never a good thing.
@@BestHakase you're not wrong, I quit playing after the removal of tiered blocks/items. (with the intro of loot crates and useless blocks that were literally paper)
Jee, why didn't they at least add a unique skin of these seats for the veterans that got them as an actual award? For some reason, as a guy that got the game back in the beginning of 2015, I'm really pissed off.
basicly they kick u in the ballz with crate update and when ur on ground the kick ur stomach with this so u report this game as bad in steam reviews and delete ur old 5 star rating from march 2015
@@justseffstuff3308 its really not, 25 of each legendary part was nothing to shrug at before the update, only really og people have them all and to just sell them would be horrible
Bottom line. FJ will do anything if it's a "business necessity". But, they don't realize that players are real people, not a tool for their business. They did it several times through years and will do it again
man, remember full spectrum update, u had all colours before and now only 4 of them, then next hit: "ohhh look, crates should be a good idea!".... then reintroducing the tech tree but stealing items we grinded for... (had all unlocked in 1st TT) and now THIS
The game is FREE and do you have any idea how much it costs to keep a server farm up and running ? Fj are a small company, quit bitching because they removed the crates after people complained, which is something other companies would NEVER EVER DO Freeman listens to the community a LOT I mean they even brought the BLODDY TIERS BACK, for Drognin's sake
Mihai Lazar Exactly! It’s a fucking free game! And for a lot of things, they do listen to the players, despite everyone being so indecisive. Everyone kept talking about how the old Robocraft was better, and talking about how they wished Robocraft Infinity was a thing on PC, so they try to listen to the community and do it, and then everyone’s a total asshole about it and get mad at Freeman for doing what you just asked them to do! That’s like asking someone to hand you a plate, and then you throw it on the ground and complain about it! These people have programmers that need to be paid, they can’t just snap their fingers and fix all the problems like you people are acting like they can do! And matra matra, FUCK OFF! They’re not taking away your fucking items! THEY GAVE YOU AN INFINITE NUMBER OF THEM!!!
And that’s my rant about the fucking Overwatch community that might as well be asking for a cookie, throwing it at the ground, being rude about what kind of cookie they want, getting it, then complaining about that one too.
Just launched Robocraft to see my pilot seats... I don't have Retro and Mega pilot seat. Btw, I opened the Item shop and there was a Pilot seat Retro for 500 CC. But I bought glass.
Apologies if it gets buried in the comments, but... I have to agree. Robocraft used to be amazing, for me. I loved it, and though it had its kinks (read: had tesseracts), old Robocraft was cool. I loved the old medic beams, and I loved it when the game wasn't oversaturated with weapons that allowed you to hit anyone anywhere at any time. Nostalgia aside... it still felt nice to be an old guard person. But now it just feels like they're raising us a huge middle finger. They barely communicate properly and only seem to give responses that are meant to pacify people, saying whatever they think will do that. I hate to see it go, but... I can't find myself enjoying being part of Robocraft anymore. I'll always remember the fun I had with it, but as it stands now... they keep overhauling the game, but never really fixing it. And quite honestly... at this point, the more iterations back you go, the more I like it, often. This is probably the last pin for me. So thank you for making the video about it. It was nice to be informed :)
Ah the good old days of Robocraft But this isn't fair it was labeled as "Exclusive" to old Robocraft players (i am one of them) Now the "exclusive" items are not "exclusive" #WhyudothisFreejam #RespeccTheVets
#theydontcareaboutus ohh FJ i spent around 120€ and 1900 hours... what did i get from watching dev streams and goofing round with UWDs? kick in da face
@XAndroid1 after Robocraft Infinity I was like" wow the time it takes to find a match is incredible" now I know that they added bots... shit Btw today I played a match and I was like " HEY WTF YOU DOING TEAM" well, a team full of bots(they didnt respond to any kind of messages in the chat so) I hate that when the other team is full of people and I get just like idk 1 person and bots
Do I mind that they are selling the seats? No Do I think they should of put just a smidgen bit of time and effort to make a different skin for them and sell them like that? Yes.
To be honest I don't really care. They are just trophies or medals of the old that no one can really see except for you. Unless of course you put it outside your vehicle to show everyone I'm an early access supporter. So just giving it away is fine. Tbf though... I really stopped caring about robocraft. It isn't the game I enjoyed anymore. The gameplay is waaay too different. And feels way too... Confusing... So many weapons... So many situations... So many options... No teamwork. No rock paper scissors in team load out. No skill in building your bot better than someone else. Seriously though the days when you had to make connection points to the pilot seat strong and built around it... That was some real skill building.. The burst plasma bomb that mostly missed. But when it hits, it was devastating. Only one equippable weapon so you had an obvious flaw that your teammates would have to protect and you had to protect your team's flaws like, flyer gone down are basically dead meat, railgun sniper are bad against fast moving targets. But damn the skilled ones shot the planes outta the sky. The laser brawler (now called SMG) which could be outdamaged in burst by either of above but could precisely target parts like weapons and disarm opponents. When healers were crucial... I miss all of that. Though some aspect may still remainit's just not the same
Context from an old player; seats were removed due to rail guns and splash weapons instantly killing the seat and causing a death even when 90% of the craft is alive, splash was pretty janky and hit nearby blocks rather than actually splashing
If that's what keeps the lights on then I say let the darkness come. By keeping there lights on they've ruined the game that I knew years ago and I find it unlikely that keeping them on any longer will lead this game to a better path. Basically they care not for the players or for the game but for the money
If they had just left it the way it was they would be losing money. Servers cost money to keep on. Also, it’s a free fucking game. That’s like someone’s giving out free cookies, and they change the recipe, and all everyone does is complain. It is literally FREE. This is the single highest quality, most frequently updated free game I have ever seen in my life. Also, they removed crates. Everyone was saying that was the one big problem, and so they were removed, but you people are still being assholes about it. Once again, I must say it is literally free.
Maybe they shouldn’t have put seats as something in the shop, since new players won’t understand anyway, but aside from that I’d say they’re doing pretty well.
People are constantly complaining about balance, but they are also constantly fixing it, and it’s a game of creativity. It is quite the feat to have a free game that focuses on creativity be this well balanced.
Ruined the game? FJ only cares about money? Let me remind you that RC Infinity for Xbox One had infinite items only thanks to the game being purchasable from the start, and back then FJ said they couldn't implement such system in F2P Robocraft. And here we are, with the Infinity update brought to RC PC. This is a very big financial sacrifice to satisfy PLAYERS, thay offer you literally limitless possibilities for absolutely FREE, and you still manage to complain FJ only cares about money?! If they really did only care about money, that would never remove crates or even make the game Pay-2-Play. So stop bitching
I think that Robocraft was once a good game and in my opinion it went downhill after rocket launchers where implemented so I quit and after getting screwed a few times by updates when I went to try it again i quit for good. And stuff like this just makes me loose even more faith in freejam, and even if players where beging for the seats they shouldn’t have done this, at most they could’ve made new seats.
I still cant get over what they did to this game, taking away all of my grinding. Now this just shows an even bigger middle finger to the vets that played before the pilot seat was removed. If they are going to do this, make the pilot seat a core block again and for everyone that had it before to get a golden variant. They should actually listen to the community. Edit: I'm also going to make a poll on what I think should happen to Robocraft, to get the communities thoughts about what I think should happen, a movement I am trying to make happen in order to make Robocraft a better game. If you see this comment and want to see my post, go here: forums.freejamgames.com/showthread.php?924-A-poll-about-what-I-think-NEEDs-to-happen-to-Robocraft&p=7007#post7007
This Game feels Like a Joke to me. The devs disapoint me more and more. I really dont know what they should do to make this Game enjoyable again (I Hope this Update brings joy to others, but i dont ever See me coming Back to it for more then 3hours)
i was back a week ago to check around, what did i find? ohh yeah an empty tech tree which had been filled in 1900 hours and now gone EMPTY???! how does that work beloved Robocraft?
i still remember that first model, back when all blocks were white, the only weapons were SMGs and it’s was a single desert map that you could just join, do anything and leave whenever, this was when the population was below about 100
I've been playing Robocraft since 2014, and I just want back the old block textures. The Wheel designs from 2014 would be cool to see come back as well.
I mentioned the infinty update a few videos back, in your last fusion videoo, and its great to see you doing a video abt rc again. Hopefully you can do more in the future :3
Tbh I think its dumb the way they did it, but I dont mind players being able to get the seats. I have all of them, including retro, and honestly I don't care if everyone could have them. The way they did it though, was pretty bad.
I was one of the financial founders and day one player of Robocraft. however, i got permabanned for spamming memes in global chat. Way to treat your hardcore fans. good job. I didn't expect less.
i feel you man(had all unlocked tech tree but now came back after a year and a bit and j dont have shit except for my cosmetics and 2k glass cubes from way back when #glass was noice) , but it is good how thr community sticks together here.
@@at0mic282 I lost my 2,000$ account because i got banned for "global" chat spam, just for spamming memes in chat = perma banned. And i was one of the first players of Robocraft. I gave them all my money 2,000$ and they just take my account for nothing.
Also a day 1 player here and I got silenced for 1 week because I defended a newbie from a troll in global chat. Wasnt a ban but it shows how they badly treat their players.
something i've proposed various times throughout the years; "Robocraft Classic", an older version of the game maybe with a few bugs fixed here and there. very simple (maybe, no clue how hard it'd be to host servers for an older version).
I remember the olden days. Robocraft was a very style of game for me. I enjoyed it... for a while. You notice the past tenses? Ever since the loot box update I struggled to even make a simple bot. Then the worst came. My account got hacked. At first I had trouble getting into games. Then could get in at all. And eventually I couldn’t get in the account. Fast forward about a few months. I make a new account and they give me just the Gary seat. What disappointed me was not that I had to start over but that I couldn’t get the exclusive seats. I would never get the seats ever.
I remember getting the seats. (I joined in 2014 btw) I was pretty happy about reviving them due me feeling like the devs care about us vets. I logged in a day after the infinity update, like everyone else I was pretty happy about the update. I was looking around at all the new things added and removed and eventually I found the item shop. I looked at what was being sold and bam, Retro seat. Like every other vet I was pretty confused, and then it hit me. The items WERE "Exclusive" but in reality it should of been called "Exclusive, *with a time limit* "
As someone who used to play a ton, and wrote giant, well-structured feedback posts about how stealth-patching was a bad-idea, how paint could be handled more like skins, how bad an idea crates were, how good of an idea L/M/H cubes were, how cosmetics could be handled, etc, and getting many replies from FJ on the structure and content of my posts, the number of times I've seen "we'll try to do a better job communicating with the community" followed by a complete lack of communication with the community. Mark only looks at or replies to things on twitter, their forums were always a mess, then new forums came, and were a worse mess. FJ is the shining example I use to show how NOT to handle community management, and how to take a great game idea with infinite potential and run it so hard in to the ground as to alienate an entire playerbase. Robocraft could have been the best game. But over and over FJ has proven that they don't care about their players, only making the game they want to make. And that would be fine, if they were honest about it and never asked for feedback. An honest developer would say something like "we appreciate the feedback, but we're going to do things our way no matter what." not "Oh yea we're listening but will only implement your ideas years later once things have gotten so bad we have to, but we wont say we're sorry that you were right all along, instead we'll make it seem like it was our idea in the first place." then rinse and repeat.
As a newer player who didn't get any seats, I agree completely. The way they called it when it was given out was that these were items for VETERANS not for any newer players. They're just money grabbing which I get but they were very avoiding about this.
My main problem with this update (2013 vet here) is that the tier system isn't compatible with the Infinite parts system at all. While yes, you can't make a T5 bot out of 2k CPU of T0 parts, any new players before the update likely had bought/got drops from crates that unlocked high tier parts for them in this update (as all parts you've ever touched are unlocked for you). This brings in the issue of really, REALLY shit players going into T5 matches with high level players. The game at the moment usually goes a one way in a match, where one team completely and utterly smashes another team. There are exceptions, and I had a pretty interesting experience a few days ago in a match. I brought my support helicopter (max tier nanos, EMP, disc shield) and at the very start of the match two of our team mates left. Surprisingly, we did fine at the beginning while we were sticking together and not overextending, but at some point the guy I was helping to tank all the damage got extremely cocky and started to just bum rush the enemies, and I couldn't follow him. The enemies also started targeting me. All in all, the game's balance/matchmaking is very broken at the moment.
What matters is the knowledge and history you have with the game, that’s a bigger gift than skins, because not everyone knows how many things have happened since the beginning:)
Nice Video. Don't know if you gonna read me... If you remeber the golden msmg was the reward for the " best player in robocraft " and there are not exlusive anymore though. Seb keep his gold blazon but he is no longer the only one whho play with golden leviathan. I understand your feeling and I agree that Freejam should talk more about their own decisions. All the supportI can give to you, Bigbolt
I was a veteran for Robocraft up until a few months ago when I finally gave it up. And I was going to go back cause I saw the infinity update and figured now no bounds what can I do now? Seeing what I was rewarded for my devotion to the game sold in a shop definitely puts me on the fence for Robocraft. When you exclusive clarify what it means Freejam cause 'time-limited exclusive' is a new term for me never had a dev-group do that to me in any game.
It’s not only that.. I started playing quite early and stopped after the crates came out. Even before that the game went in a bad direction but the crates gave it the rest for me. The only time I spent money on the game was for some "exclusive" shields (the American football player robot thing that had these nicely fitting shields) which you could then later buy for normal ingame credits...
As a late 2013 player (lasers where the only weapon) Give us someing like S type. Give vet players a Stype of the top two weapons in each category where they are a special skin with the S type fin and logo. Not necessarily a more powerful or better weapon but one that is forever vet only. Or a name color exclusive to the year they joined. A golden orange color just like back in the day.
The seats and tiers were the best version. Sure people would make low tier bots with a high tier weapon that doesn't mean that they were overly op since you could just gang up on them.
I'm disgusted, it's terrible that they took the robocraft world cup rewards and didn't give any tweaks to the items the winners got (golden guns) now everyone could get them. Also this pilot seat situation was a decision not a necessity, they could make new stuff and sell them at any price they wanted, but they didn't. I honestly stopped caring because this is probably the 5th major time something like this hs happened with my vet account, back in the day I collected loads of tiers cube colours from events but then they were all deleted from everyone's accounts. Its usual FJ practical and I simply don't care - learn to not care about the worth of your cosmetics is what FreeJam are telling us, so just don't buy stuff that is "limited" expecting it to stay that way.
I picked up the game just before railguns were added, so I got the seat on my main account. I found the breached badges on my own. I paid ten dollars, which at the time was all I had being 13 years old, to get some new cosmetics. I was never able to afford premium. Well, first they took away my badges. Then they made my hard earned cosmetics up for purchase with RP. Then they made a post saying they'll upgrade premium membership to "show their veterans appreciation". Because ALL veterans must have premium, right? A bit later my account got two warnings and a permanent mute all in the span of a couple months, so I had to migrate to a new account, which made me miss the golden guns a while later. The retro seat was all I had anymore, and now not even that is special. 2300 hours and five years of sticking with this game through all the controversial updates they've released, and this is what I got.
That tipe of handling contacts with fan comunity is reson why i lefted robocraft long ago. Originaly i joined this game when there was only wheels jets cubes and lazorguns, but the way that it was handled ower all trow me away. Once i though that this was my opus magnum, now it is rusted peace of my gaming history. Ewen tho that lost give me my real opus magnum- Warframe, i still se same potential in other games, like crossout, galactic junk ligue, and the best looking out of bunch, D.R.O.N.E., which i know that you also looking for. Edit. Also i hope that stuff we get from supporting D.R.O.N.E., are gonna be more exclusiwe than in robocraft.
This devalues all the other things they said. Like Lifetime Premium. Or even that the Golden variants. I mean, a lot of people missed out on THOSE, right? For example, I've played since the earliest days, yet I never keep a bunch of parts OR robits, always spending them, recyling them, etc. I also like making new accounts to test the new user experience (often losing my old account information). As a result, I only got one Golden variant (since their original post didn't clarify that modules would not be included, and I didn't check back). And I'm okay with that. But they should say that it is limited edition only temporarily... or that it is a very rare cosmetic. At this point I would give it a few months before they make their way to the store.
If you guys want to play a great free to play game called airmech with actual exclusive items. Which i love they make me feel better about being with them from the start. And feel unique
I got the retro seat in full release, this is just another cashgrab, just like deleting our items, so we have to buy more credits if we want some skin, but didn't sell it all in time.
I have mixed feelings about it, I've played Robocraft since the good old days on a friends account, but never got my own account until after mega pilot seats were removed. I think that selling them could be a good thing to help keep the game running, but Grom is right, these were exclusives for people who played since the very beginning, and I also would pay for old cube skins, it's the little things like that, they're great.
I was there playing a lot in 2013, when the wheels looked so different and there were glitches with the SMG, yet they only gave me the 3rd version of the seat. Strange
Wish they would sell the textures for all the old things in Robocraft like the t10 cubes. Also the radar and jammer even old weapon skins! But no they only sell the "exclusive" items.... Have a good day.
Thank you! I was furious when I found out about this! Having Joined way back before this feels like a major middle finger to me. Now people that suck with freejam pass everything. What do they have to show, nothing. And while it may seem entitled to me to rant about something so minor as a non gameplay related cosmetic that seat was a badge of honor to me. It's just upsetting and disappointing how all of that was thrown aside for some cash.
6 years of playing the game, and I still boot it up to this Day, and my reward for being so dedicated to the game, can be sold for 5 dollars. I would have happily donate the money to freejam just because of the memories that they have given me and the friends i made. But I guess that is just another 5 bucks for the electricity Bill. Rest assured that the lights in My robocraft garage have always been on. And with drone getting closer to open beta than ever, im afraid im gonna have to turn off the lights and leave robocraft behind. Best of luck to freejam, and I Hope these New players are worth at least 10 dollars
Reminds me of a certain _bow_ situation in certain _Battlefield 4_ that alienated players, who earned it vs those, who got it for free since DiCE haven't made them different in any way.
The best answer would be to stop using "time exclusives" and "purchase exclusives" altogether. The practice is predatory, and creates headaches for everyone involved. Those that buy it feel cheated if it no longer unique to them, and those that have it also feel cheated because they didn't come in at the "right time". Human loss aversion only compounds this problem as we feel like it's a worse deal if we miss the ability to buy items that we can't have in the future, even if it's a really bad deal. As for Freejam, I can only guess that they're trying to put their ass into the fire to gather up some new player buys. The problem is, I wager that this is going to end up being the wrong financial decision, but the right moral decision. The players that have stuck around, the players that have spent money, get the short end of the stick for this despite being the group that will probably spend more money than the new players.
... 😮 you could totally make a meme about this with the fight for the time stone from avengers infinity war, with stark being veterans and when he gets stabbed have it track the knife “limited time exclusive” 😆
Tl:Dr; I think Freejam was out for money, decided to change their game to support this & now they're moving towards cardlife & stopping robocraft updates altogether. Long version: Freejam is running a bad business; they decided to change their winning formula & called it "the plan all along". They don't care about their passion, they don't care about the player, they care about money, I think this might be one of the final robocraft updatesm, where they said "ah fuck it, we're done anyway, let's just make everything free, maybe that'll draw some players back". A good example of a game *properly* moving towards its final state is Astroneer; its updates were incremental, and didn't change it into something completely different along the way; it's in large part still the Astroneer i played, what, a year ago? even though there are almost monthly updates to it, which all had big impacts on the game & how you play. The same holds true for factorio, but I won't go into detail about that. In the end, robocraft was a fine game which was stabbed over & over again by its devs, then got a few band-aids and a kiss on the forehead. Personal note: Robocraft in large part is what inspired me to become a game developer/designer/artist/whatever, and it's why i'm following said course. If you think I'm wrong in any of what i said, please discuss it with me.
Hmm... You know, I was kinda a little proud of my pilot seats (only have the three not the oldest one, but still...) Because it was something special in a way. I mean other old players had them too, BUT only the old players had them. What's the next thing they do? Sell golden weapons?
Way late to this, but I used to play Robocraft a lot. And over time, I feel the game became progressively less fun. With the removal of the pilot seat, megabots, specialist bots, adding autoheal, it all stripped away a level of complexity I enjoyed. They also added the store, so you'd see a lot of the same meta bots every match. The entire cycle of adding expensive, new weapons that were OP at the outset and were then nerfed was tiresome as well. Oh, and then there was that lootbox thing that was just horrible. And in all this us who played the game for a long time got kind of left in the dust. It took me a loooooooong time to grind my way up to my megabot. And what did they do? They removed them within 2 months of me getting it. That really felt like a kick in the nads. And then they changed your mega module to the most boring, useless special module as a "thank you". That in no way made up for the time and effort I put into getting that thing. I've tried it a few times since then, but while it still held on to the old spirit for a while, it's gone now. A lot of the most recent changes are aimed at fixing the mistakes they made, but I haven't enjoyed the game in the same way as I did when I just started out. It wasn't perfect, back then. The grind was insane, and there were plenty of meme-builds, like rail platforms. Also, I remember the Halloween cubes. I got a few of them and built a bot out of them. Then they did the current block update, and they were just taken away. I don't know, man. The game has had a history of giving long time players the finger, both in taking stuff they earned away and in changing the game to become unrecognizable from what it first was. I don't play it anymore. Sometimes I try, but I just can't get back into it.
Exclusive means at least some people get left out. If they came out with new or reskins of exclusives it would be more than fine. If they just where honest about them changing them from exclusive to early access + free, it wouldn't be too bad, but to lie about absolutes they have put forward calls into question the overall stability of the game. Will they go back on other things they said they would or wouldn't do and then lie about it too? I can see it now: Community: Bug report. Planes are suddenly not working properly. FJ: Oh we forgot to mention we changed(nerfed) them drastically to better fit our future plans. Community: You said you weren't going to make any major changes to how existing parts worked, so we can count on their behavior. FJ: Sorry we forgot to mention (list of other important changes) and also we meant no major changes for now. We thought you where different FJ. Now we know you too will make up whatever you want to try to save face in the moment while making more money.
The seats give me great memories of my playing with my 3 cousins (of wich one has died by wich in greatful for the memories the seats give me) since it was the last game he played with me. And I'm thankful for that experience but I just feel like we got thrown away and that they just want to make money from the players, wich was to be seen when the game was pay 2 win with the crates and how they teased you to buy premium.
I know I'm a bit late to this but, it's interesting to see this sort of video about this company after having met of their main guys and the main guy from Climax Studios (sister company of freejam). Kind of confirmed that I didn't think they were nice guys :/
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if they were going to do this the real vets should get a gold varient of them
How about the other way around? Make a new golden seat variant so people can have seats, veterans would want to buy it and still have their early access reward. There is so many ways how it could have been done better.
I agree or better yet you know give us a exclusive badge for vets, or a exclusive color...something more noticeable then a seat, hell a exclusive taunt for vets that says one of the old promo codes, that would be neat
In the end I agree being a proud owner of a retro seat myself this kinda feels like the vets have been given a kick in the balls.
Don't worry. At this state, the golden wariants will be aslo on sale for... another 5 dollars? xD
Make it platinum. Oh wait I'm not a pre release player..
Daymon Halladay i wuld love that
'exclusive' meant 'time-limited exclusive'
haha no
Robocraft reminds me of trove by now just cuz of that: make time exclusive stuff and laterbl sell it/make it craftable (both diff games but developers acting the same
thank you for your 4 year support, and it just worth 5 dollar. Ha Ha good job.
well, did u know what is the meaning of trophy?
They are worst company ive seen
it kinda IS a kick to the balls if you ask me.
When i got them i was like: "wow, they didn´t need to but it is a really nice gift i really like it"
when i saw one in the shop i was like: "wow ... exclusive my ass, if they wanted to give it to everyone why not so in the first place"
Is freejam turning to EA. Fuck The players We want only money
@@mj2402 they are worse then EA
Yeah, exactly.
To me it felt more like a punch to the gut.
R E S P E C T A L L V E T E R A N S
Edit: Actually, selling classic versions of the cubes would be sick. I've only played this game for 2 years now, but I love all the old stuff. Massive Iq Idea to add some sort of "Cube skin"
EDIT 2019: hey look at that, they took your idea grom. Maybe they'll start taking other smart ideas too?
ty for the heart grom, love your channel
#RespeccForVets
old T10 cubes looked the best
@@gasdorficmuncher9943 Yeah but the furthest i got was TIER 6
Oof and u remember Boss battles
Where low ranks battled high ranks
The good old times
Is so sad
I totally agree with pretty much everything you said. But as a little aside, when it comes to the gold weapons, i'd be happy if other players could unlock them, in some special way. Since they are so big and flashy, others will see them and be "cool, how do I get them". But when it comes to the seats, they are really only something that the builder of the bot would know about, they are harder to see, so less people will feel like they are missing out, if that makes any sense. They were something for the owner to pat themselves on the back for, not something to be gawked over, like the golden parts.
Yeah, exactly. I completely agree with this.
But what about all the hard fuckin work i did for my golden parts? You're suggesting someone can come along and pay 5 bucks for a substitute for all the time and money for premium i spent?
@@MongunStylePants no. How about we attach it to actual hard work. For examole rewards for the hard campaigns or smth like that.
@@platiuscyndar9017 no. That doesnt compare to the work people did to get them.
Edit: at a l l
@@MongunStylePants Why not just take the legendary price cost (before the infinity update) x10 and say that's the price?
Also, this is what happened to league contest winners and what WILL happen with current owners of golden weapons
So I'll get those golden guns after all. I could have but was too... distracted away from Robocraft that I just didn't know about that. All the millions of Robits are wortless again...
We top 100s have the top 100 flag, its bugged out and looks meh... but we have it
@@thered4048 yet, the winners are screwed up. They got only exclusive bages
@Salt Can I was one of the top 100 lol... I know.....
The top 10 got a golden leviathan...
@@thered4048 i meant the winners, not the top 100
Just a note for possible future conflict, The older post describing the Seat Veteran Rewards is still in the Steam News page for Robocraft, You'll just need to scroll a considerable distance down the page to find it
oh man, having unlocked the classic cape on runescape for playing the game back in the early 2000s, imagining jagex doing this kind of low blow would really devalue the prestige of having such an item, in the way that's happened here in robocraft
That's what it feels like yea.
Where's the Thanos cosmetic mask? This is INFINITY update.
lol
Wauioyw
or infinity gaultnet
Lol, yeah.
You think that a small indie company has the money for the license? Lol
"how much cosmetic credits is Freejam's reputation worth?" ~Baeren
Answer: Free
"We thought you wouldn't mind"
So you wouldn't mind us leaving?
i left early 2017 after crates and stuff
Right? I'm about tired of FreeJams cr*p as well.
Seriosly? You'll quit the game if the items you got for free become available FOR MONEY to other players? Grow up, crybaby.
@@Pro100Vetal652 nah, he will leave because FJ lied and broke their promise. This is unacceptable behaviour and should not be tolerated
@@SaltCan the worst a game company can do is lie to their costumers, like what the no man sky dude did,man,i remenber all the rage that guy ocassionate, if you make a game, and you dont have costumers them you are fucked,every decent company know that not fall in bankrupt they need to care about their costumers,withour costumers no money. i hope they give a apology so the rage decrease.
This is something that I definitely agree with: they were a one-time item that happened with a one-time event... and it's important to keep the limited time edition things exclusive, as it gives the owners of those items a certain level of prestige. People who have been playing the game for a long time like many of this channels core subscriber base are going to feel betrayed by this... and that's never a good thing.
sooo damn right
I think this is not that important. Almost all old players tired of freejam's shit and leaved game.
@@BestHakase you're not wrong, I quit playing after the removal of tiered blocks/items. (with the intro of loot crates and useless blocks that were literally paper)
Jee, why didn't they at least add a unique skin of these seats for the veterans that got them as an actual award?
For some reason, as a guy that got the game back in the beginning of 2015, I'm really pissed off.
Manndarinchik same here man
I started around 2013. I miss The old days
Old days where the best days
basicly they kick u in the ballz with crate update and when ur on ground the kick ur stomach with this so u report this game as bad in steam reviews and delete ur old 5 star rating from march 2015
Indeed - there would be no problem if they sold the seats but changed the name and texture instead of... this mess...
Hi mom, look, I'm on RUclips
next year they'll probably sell all the gold skins for $5 each
i still want them :P
only got the chance to buy two of them, but then again its suppose to be exclusive
Well i got the golden impaler, mortar, leviathan and ion distorter
5 dollars might be a bit much.
@@justseffstuff3308 its really not, 25 of each legendary part was nothing to shrug at before the update, only really og people have them all and to just sell them would be horrible
I'd pay 10$ for an individual skin to be honest, they look REALLY flashy, and I only wanted the impaler
I really miss the tier tree and the old days :(
It's very different but there is a tier tree in the game now
i really miss old smgs:(
@@littlecreep0721 I miss old everything
I'm loving the tear tree! Finally some Items I don't own
Grinding like in the old days
@@TheCoral999 sarcasm? It's 100 times quicker than the old days and infinity means no grinding
Bottom line. FJ will do anything if it's a "business necessity". But, they don't realize that players are real people, not a tool for their business. They did it several times through years and will do it again
man, remember full spectrum update, u had all colours before and now only 4 of them, then next hit: "ohhh look, crates should be a good idea!".... then reintroducing the tech tree but stealing items we grinded for... (had all unlocked in 1st TT) and now THIS
The game is FREE and do you have any idea how much it costs to keep a server farm up and running ?
Fj are a small company, quit bitching because they removed the crates after people complained, which is something other companies would NEVER EVER DO
Freeman listens to the community a LOT
I mean they even brought the BLODDY TIERS BACK, for Drognin's sake
Mihai Lazar Exactly! It’s a fucking free game! And for a lot of things, they do listen to the players, despite everyone being so indecisive. Everyone kept talking about how the old Robocraft was better, and talking about how they wished Robocraft Infinity was a thing on PC, so they try to listen to the community and do it, and then everyone’s a total asshole about it and get mad at Freeman for doing what you just asked them to do! That’s like asking someone to hand you a plate, and then you throw it on the ground and complain about it! These people have programmers that need to be paid, they can’t just snap their fingers and fix all the problems like you people are acting like they can do! And matra matra, FUCK OFF! They’re not taking away your fucking items! THEY GAVE YOU AN INFINITE NUMBER OF THEM!!!
And that’s my rant about the fucking Overwatch community that might as well be asking for a cookie, throwing it at the ground, being rude about what kind of cookie they want, getting it, then complaining about that one too.
i did not play for 2 years but as far as i remember fj is awesome developer who lisen to its playerbase
Just launched Robocraft to see my pilot seats... I don't have Retro and Mega pilot seat.
Btw, I opened the Item shop and there was a Pilot seat Retro for 500 CC.
But I bought glass.
glass good, make a glass bot like the old days
make a window like in the old days
Thank you for doing that
Robocraft has become trash.
Apologies if it gets buried in the comments, but... I have to agree.
Robocraft used to be amazing, for me. I loved it, and though it had its kinks (read: had tesseracts), old Robocraft was cool. I loved the old medic beams, and I loved it when the game wasn't oversaturated with weapons that allowed you to hit anyone anywhere at any time.
Nostalgia aside... it still felt nice to be an old guard person. But now it just feels like they're raising us a huge middle finger. They barely communicate properly and only seem to give responses that are meant to pacify people, saying whatever they think will do that.
I hate to see it go, but... I can't find myself enjoying being part of Robocraft anymore. I'll always remember the fun I had with it, but as it stands now... they keep overhauling the game, but never really fixing it. And quite honestly... at this point, the more iterations back you go, the more I like it, often.
This is probably the last pin for me. So thank you for making the video about it. It was nice to be informed :)
"Infinity update" I think they were talking about how infinity tricked the fans would be when they released it.
Even more reasons why I can't get back to this game.
Ah the good old days of Robocraft
But this isn't fair it was labeled as "Exclusive" to old Robocraft players (i am one of them)
Now the "exclusive" items are not "exclusive"
#WhyudothisFreejam
#RespeccTheVets
#theydontcareaboutus ohh FJ i spent around 120€ and 1900 hours... what did i get from watching dev streams and goofing round with UWDs? kick in da face
You know the game is dead when almost no youtuber makes videos about it anymore...
Thomas make robocraft vids
And its pretty alive
@XAndroid1 after Robocraft Infinity I was like" wow the time it takes to find a match is incredible" now I know that they added bots... shit
Btw today I played a match and I was like " HEY WTF YOU DOING TEAM" well, a team full of bots(they didnt respond to any kind of messages in the chat so)
I hate that when the other team is full of people and I get just like idk 1 person and bots
Well, I don't see many videos on BF2142, Diablo 2, CS 1.6, CnC Generals and so on and yet...
you know that game is dead when u monetize rewards for founders and funders of your own game 😂😂😅
Lmao, and it got a update you think no one is going to upload anything? Seems great now!
That feel when you made your acc in 2015 and never get anything
Time to go sicko mode
Do I mind that they are selling the seats? No
Do I think they should of put just a smidgen bit of time and effort to make a different skin for them and sell them like that? Yes.
To be honest I don't really care. They are just trophies or medals of the old that no one can really see except for you. Unless of course you put it outside your vehicle to show everyone I'm an early access supporter.
So just giving it away is fine.
Tbf though... I really stopped caring about robocraft. It isn't the game I enjoyed anymore. The gameplay is waaay too different. And feels way too...
Confusing...
So many weapons... So many situations... So many options...
No teamwork. No rock paper scissors in team load out. No skill in building your bot better than someone else.
Seriously though the days when you had to make connection points to the pilot seat strong and built around it... That was some real skill building..
The burst plasma bomb that mostly missed. But when it hits, it was devastating. Only one equippable weapon so you had an obvious flaw that your teammates would have to protect and you had to protect your team's flaws like, flyer gone down are basically dead meat, railgun sniper are bad against fast moving targets. But damn the skilled ones shot the planes outta the sky. The laser brawler (now called SMG) which could be outdamaged in burst by either of above but could precisely target parts like weapons and disarm opponents.
When healers were crucial...
I miss all of that. Though some aspect may still remainit's just not the same
Robocraft 2015 best robocraft
They dont give a fuck about their old players anymore
Nice to know I can finally ditch the game for good, Being kicked by them now just sealed the deal for me.
Too bad too, I've been playing since the start, They just lost a loyal player.
Context from an old player; seats were removed due to rail guns and splash weapons instantly killing the seat and causing a death even when 90% of the craft is alive, splash was pretty janky and hit nearby blocks rather than actually splashing
If that's what keeps the lights on then I say let the darkness come. By keeping there lights on they've ruined the game that I knew years ago and I find it unlikely that keeping them on any longer will lead this game to a better path. Basically they care not for the players or for the game but for the money
money? ha,all of the cosmetics are mostly for rp,premium is now usseles
If they had just left it the way it was they would be losing money. Servers cost money to keep on. Also, it’s a free fucking game. That’s like someone’s giving out free cookies, and they change the recipe, and all everyone does is complain. It is literally FREE. This is the single highest quality, most frequently updated free game I have ever seen in my life. Also, they removed crates. Everyone was saying that was the one big problem, and so they were removed, but you people are still being assholes about it. Once again, I must say it is literally free.
Maybe they shouldn’t have put seats as something in the shop, since new players won’t understand anyway, but aside from that I’d say they’re doing pretty well.
People are constantly complaining about balance, but they are also constantly fixing it, and it’s a game of creativity. It is quite the feat to have a free game that focuses on creativity be this well balanced.
Ruined the game? FJ only cares about money? Let me remind you that RC Infinity for Xbox One had infinite items only thanks to the game being purchasable from the start, and back then FJ said they couldn't implement such system in F2P Robocraft. And here we are, with the Infinity update brought to RC PC. This is a very big financial sacrifice to satisfy PLAYERS, thay offer you literally limitless possibilities for absolutely FREE, and you still manage to complain FJ only cares about money?! If they really did only care about money, that would never remove crates or even make the game Pay-2-Play. So stop bitching
Omg that description at the end, about the seats, really did it for me. Totally unbelievable...
This killed Robocraft and many of your recommended cosmetic textures and cubes were added but the whole air of mistrust is never going away
I think that Robocraft was once a good game and in my opinion it went downhill after rocket launchers where implemented so I quit and after getting screwed a few times by updates when I went to try it again i quit for good.
And stuff like this just makes me loose even more faith in freejam, and even if players where beging for the seats they shouldn’t have done this, at most they could’ve made new seats.
I still cant get over what they did to this game, taking away all of my grinding.
Now this just shows an even bigger middle finger to the vets that played before the pilot seat was removed.
If they are going to do this, make the pilot seat a core block again and for everyone that had it before to get a golden variant.
They should actually listen to the community.
Edit: I'm also going to make a poll on what I think should happen to Robocraft, to get the communities thoughts about what I think should happen, a movement I am trying to make happen in order to make Robocraft a better game.
If you see this comment and want to see my post, go here: forums.freejamgames.com/showthread.php?924-A-poll-about-what-I-think-NEEDs-to-happen-to-Robocraft&p=7007#post7007
This Game feels Like a Joke to me. The devs disapoint me more and more. I really dont know what they should do to make this Game enjoyable again (I Hope this Update brings joy to others, but i dont ever See me coming Back to it for more then 3hours)
i was back a week ago to check around, what did i find? ohh yeah an empty tech tree which had been filled in 1900 hours and now gone EMPTY???! how does that work beloved Robocraft?
i still remember that first model, back when all blocks were white, the only weapons were SMGs and it’s was a single desert map that you could just join, do anything and leave whenever, this was when the population was below about 100
I've been playing Robocraft since 2014, and I just want back the old block textures. The Wheel designs from 2014 would be cool to see come back as well.
I dont run games but you dont give Alpha tester rewards who buy a game on full release
I mentioned the infinty update a few videos back, in your last fusion videoo, and its great to see you doing a video abt rc again.
Hopefully you can do more in the future :3
Tbh I think its dumb the way they did it, but I dont mind players being able to get the seats. I have all of them, including retro, and honestly I don't care if everyone could have them. The way they did it though, was pretty bad.
I completely agree, it wouldn't matter so much if it was done in a more respectful manner
"Pilot Seat description has been updated" -leftofnever
I was one of the financial founders and day one player of Robocraft.
however, i got permabanned for spamming memes in global chat. Way to treat your hardcore fans. good job. I didn't expect less.
i feel you man(had all unlocked tech tree but now came back after a year and a bit and j dont have shit except for my cosmetics and 2k glass cubes from way back when #glass was noice) , but it is good how thr community sticks together here.
@@at0mic282 no no community is shit and so is the game. Game is shit.
@@at0mic282 I lost my 2,000$ account because i got banned for "global" chat spam, just for spamming memes in chat = perma banned. And i was one of the first players of Robocraft. I gave them all my money 2,000$ and they just take my account for nothing.
Also a day 1 player here and I got silenced for 1 week because I defended a newbie from a troll in global chat. Wasnt a ban but it shows how they badly treat their players.
I really think that they must put the seats back and the daily reward though!
something i've proposed various times throughout the years;
"Robocraft Classic", an older version of the game maybe with a few bugs fixed here and there. very simple (maybe, no clue how hard it'd be to host servers for an older version).
I remember the olden days. Robocraft was a very style of game for me. I enjoyed it... for a while.
You notice the past tenses? Ever since the loot box update I struggled to even make a simple bot. Then the worst came. My account got hacked. At first I had trouble getting into games. Then could get in at all. And eventually I couldn’t get in the account. Fast forward about a few months. I make a new account and they give me just the Gary seat. What disappointed me was not that I had to start over but that I couldn’t get the exclusive seats. I would never get the seats ever.
I remember getting the seats. (I joined in 2014 btw) I was pretty happy about reviving them due me feeling like the devs care about us vets. I logged in a day after the infinity update, like everyone else I was pretty happy about the update. I was looking around at all the new things added and removed and eventually I found the item shop. I looked at what was being sold and bam, Retro seat. Like every other vet I was pretty confused, and then it hit me. The items WERE "Exclusive" but in reality it should of been called "Exclusive, *with a time limit* "
we veterans should get all the old tier skins of the weapons and cubes
make a download version for us vets with old skins and old medic guns pls..... i loved medics especially after BA was new
I am really Missing the old robocraft. Back in 2016. The Moment when more than one weapon group was possible. Might be 2016
Yeah, welcome to the club. Warframe did exactly the same thing with the Vandal Braton/Lato weapons.
As someone who used to play a ton, and wrote giant, well-structured feedback posts about how stealth-patching was a bad-idea, how paint could be handled more like skins, how bad an idea crates were, how good of an idea L/M/H cubes were, how cosmetics could be handled, etc, and getting many replies from FJ on the structure and content of my posts, the number of times I've seen "we'll try to do a better job communicating with the community" followed by a complete lack of communication with the community. Mark only looks at or replies to things on twitter, their forums were always a mess, then new forums came, and were a worse mess. FJ is the shining example I use to show how NOT to handle community management, and how to take a great game idea with infinite potential and run it so hard in to the ground as to alienate an entire playerbase.
Robocraft could have been the best game. But over and over FJ has proven that they don't care about their players, only making the game they want to make. And that would be fine, if they were honest about it and never asked for feedback. An honest developer would say something like "we appreciate the feedback, but we're going to do things our way no matter what." not "Oh yea we're listening but will only implement your ideas years later once things have gotten so bad we have to, but we wont say we're sorry that you were right all along, instead we'll make it seem like it was our idea in the first place." then rinse and repeat.
As a newer player who didn't get any seats, I agree completely. The way they called it when it was given out was that these were items for VETERANS not for any newer players. They're just money grabbing which I get but they were very avoiding about this.
If you want another game to poke fun at, Armored Warfare is just FULL of great dev and publisher "Ideas" ;D
My main problem with this update (2013 vet here) is that the tier system isn't compatible with the Infinite parts system at all. While yes, you can't make a T5 bot out of 2k CPU of T0 parts, any new players before the update likely had bought/got drops from crates that unlocked high tier parts for them in this update (as all parts you've ever touched are unlocked for you). This brings in the issue of really, REALLY shit players going into T5 matches with high level players. The game at the moment usually goes a one way in a match, where one team completely and utterly smashes another team. There are exceptions, and I had a pretty interesting experience a few days ago in a match. I brought my support helicopter (max tier nanos, EMP, disc shield) and at the very start of the match two of our team mates left. Surprisingly, we did fine at the beginning while we were sticking together and not overextending, but at some point the guy I was helping to tank all the damage got extremely cocky and started to just bum rush the enemies, and I couldn't follow him. The enemies also started targeting me. All in all, the game's balance/matchmaking is very broken at the moment.
What matters is the knowledge and history you have with the game, that’s a bigger gift than skins, because not everyone knows how many things have happened since the beginning:)
Those seats were one of the perks that long time players had.
Nice Video. Don't know if you gonna read me...
If you remeber the golden msmg was the reward for the " best player in robocraft " and there are not exlusive anymore though. Seb keep his gold blazon but he is no longer the only one whho play with golden leviathan.
I understand your feeling and I agree that Freejam should talk more about their own decisions.
All the supportI can give to you,
Bigbolt
I was a veteran for Robocraft up until a few months ago when I finally gave it up.
And I was going to go back cause I saw the infinity update and figured now no bounds what can I do now?
Seeing what I was rewarded for my devotion to the game sold in a shop definitely puts me on the fence for Robocraft.
When you exclusive clarify what it means Freejam cause 'time-limited exclusive' is a new term for me never had a dev-group do that to me in any game.
It’s not only that.. I started playing quite early and stopped after the crates came out. Even before that the game went in a bad direction but the crates gave it the rest for me. The only time I spent money on the game was for some "exclusive" shields (the American football player robot thing that had these nicely fitting shields) which you could then later buy for normal ingame credits...
I really miss the old Robocraft :'(
As a late 2013 player (lasers where the only weapon) Give us someing like S type. Give vet players a Stype of the top two weapons in each category where they are a special skin with the S type fin and logo. Not necessarily a more powerful or better weapon but one that is forever vet only. Or a name color exclusive to the year they joined. A golden orange color just like back in the day.
The seats and tiers were the best version. Sure people would make low tier bots with a high tier weapon that doesn't mean that they were overly op since you could just gang up on them.
The AI bots is what killed it for me, there are other free games where I can know I am dealing with people.
I'm disgusted, it's terrible that they took the robocraft world cup rewards and didn't give any tweaks to the items the winners got (golden guns) now everyone could get them. Also this pilot seat situation was a decision not a necessity, they could make new stuff and sell them at any price they wanted, but they didn't. I honestly stopped caring because this is probably the 5th major time something like this hs happened with my vet account, back in the day I collected loads of tiers cube colours from events but then they were all deleted from everyone's accounts. Its usual FJ practical and I simply don't care - learn to not care about the worth of your cosmetics is what FreeJam are telling us, so just don't buy stuff that is "limited" expecting it to stay that way.
I don't have this old seat, but I still think it should be actually exclusive for the people who kind of kick-started the game
YES ROBOCRAFT IS BACK I LOVE THESE VIDS CUZ THESE ARE FUNNY
WOW HA HA VERY FUNNY CAPS JOKE HA
@@audiofox5104 are you okay?
Thanks for notifying me about the infinit update lol
I picked up the game just before railguns were added, so I got the seat on my main account. I found the breached badges on my own. I paid ten dollars, which at the time was all I had being 13 years old, to get some new cosmetics. I was never able to afford premium. Well, first they took away my badges. Then they made my hard earned cosmetics up for purchase with RP. Then they made a post saying they'll upgrade premium membership to "show their veterans appreciation". Because ALL veterans must have premium, right? A bit later my account got two warnings and a permanent mute all in the span of a couple months, so I had to migrate to a new account, which made me miss the golden guns a while later. The retro seat was all I had anymore, and now not even that is special. 2300 hours and five years of sticking with this game through all the controversial updates they've released, and this is what I got.
That tipe of handling contacts with fan comunity is reson why i lefted robocraft long ago. Originaly i joined this game when there was only wheels jets cubes and lazorguns, but the way that it was handled ower all trow me away.
Once i though that this was my opus magnum, now it is rusted peace of my gaming history.
Ewen tho that lost give me my real opus magnum- Warframe, i still se same potential in other games, like crossout, galactic junk ligue, and the best looking out of bunch, D.R.O.N.E., which i know that you also looking for.
Edit. Also i hope that stuff we get from supporting D.R.O.N.E., are gonna be more exclusiwe than in robocraft.
I hope Freejam makes a compensation cosmetic like a golden seat, or a golden robocraft mask.
Next from FreeJam!
“The golden items were rewarded as a time-limited exclusive to players who had 25+ of the corresponding legendary part!”
This devalues all the other things they said. Like Lifetime Premium. Or even that the Golden variants. I mean, a lot of people missed out on THOSE, right? For example, I've played since the earliest days, yet I never keep a bunch of parts OR robits, always spending them, recyling them, etc. I also like making new accounts to test the new user experience (often losing my old account information).
As a result, I only got one Golden variant (since their original post didn't clarify that modules would not be included, and I didn't check back). And I'm okay with that. But they should say that it is limited edition only temporarily... or that it is a very rare cosmetic. At this point I would give it a few months before they make their way to the store.
Glad my 10 mins of scrolling steam news was worth it
INFINITY UPDATE - top 10 anime betrayals
If you guys want to play a great free to play game called airmech with actual exclusive items. Which i love they make me feel better about being with them from the start. And feel unique
I got the retro seat in full release, this is just another cashgrab, just like deleting our items, so we have to buy more credits if we want some skin, but didn't sell it all in time.
I have mixed feelings about it, I've played Robocraft since the good old days on a friends account, but never got my own account until after mega pilot seats were removed. I think that selling them could be a good thing to help keep the game running, but Grom is right, these were exclusives for people who played since the very beginning, and I also would pay for old cube skins, it's the little things like that, they're great.
I was there playing a lot in 2013, when the wheels looked so different and there were glitches with the SMG, yet they only gave me the 3rd version of the seat. Strange
Wish they would sell the textures for all the old things in Robocraft like the t10 cubes. Also the radar and jammer even old weapon skins! But no they only sell the "exclusive" items.... Have a good day.
If they wanted to keep the lights on they could add another C6 weapon or another branch of cosmetic like C6. A new branch would get A LOT of cash.
Hey Gromek, do you still play Robocraft? I'm just getting back into it!
I used to love this game. It’s a shame it fell off so hard
Wtf i never knew you was from Denmark, now i just love you even more my country brother
Also, 1 little detail for everyone:
I deleted one for curiosity. And with the infinity update i magically got it back
Thank you! I was furious when I found out about this! Having Joined way back before this feels like a major middle finger to me. Now people that suck with freejam pass everything. What do they have to show, nothing. And while it may seem entitled to me to rant about something so minor as a non gameplay related cosmetic that seat was a badge of honor to me. It's just upsetting and disappointing how all of that was thrown aside for some cash.
6 years of playing the game, and I still boot it up to this Day, and my reward for being so dedicated to the game, can be sold for 5 dollars. I would have happily donate the money to freejam just because of the memories that they have given me and the friends i made. But I guess that is just another 5 bucks for the electricity Bill. Rest assured that the lights in My robocraft garage have always been on. And with drone getting closer to open beta than ever, im afraid im gonna have to turn off the lights and leave robocraft behind.
Best of luck to freejam, and I Hope these New players are worth at least 10 dollars
Reminds me of a certain _bow_ situation in certain _Battlefield 4_ that alienated players, who earned it vs those, who got it for free since DiCE haven't made them different in any way.
Holy damage numbers at the beginning
I'm glad I jumped ship after the lootboxes came through.
The best answer would be to stop using "time exclusives" and "purchase exclusives" altogether. The practice is predatory, and creates headaches for everyone involved. Those that buy it feel cheated if it no longer unique to them, and those that have it also feel cheated because they didn't come in at the "right time". Human loss aversion only compounds this problem as we feel like it's a worse deal if we miss the ability to buy items that we can't have in the future, even if it's a really bad deal.
As for Freejam, I can only guess that they're trying to put their ass into the fire to gather up some new player buys. The problem is, I wager that this is going to end up being the wrong financial decision, but the right moral decision. The players that have stuck around, the players that have spent money, get the short end of the stick for this despite being the group that will probably spend more money than the new players.
exclusives are exclusively a bad idea always.
... 😮 you could totally make a meme about this with the fight for the time stone from avengers infinity war, with stark being veterans and when he gets stabbed have it track the knife “limited time exclusive” 😆
Tl:Dr; I think Freejam was out for money, decided to change their game to support this & now they're moving towards cardlife & stopping robocraft updates altogether.
Long version:
Freejam is running a bad business; they decided to change their winning formula & called it "the plan all along". They don't care about their passion, they don't care about the player, they care about money, I think this might be one of the final robocraft updatesm, where they said "ah fuck it, we're done anyway, let's just make everything free, maybe that'll draw some players back".
A good example of a game *properly* moving towards its final state is Astroneer; its updates were incremental, and didn't change it into something completely different along the way; it's in large part still the Astroneer i played, what, a year ago? even though there are almost monthly updates to it, which all had big impacts on the game & how you play. The same holds true for factorio, but I won't go into detail about that. In the end, robocraft was a fine game which was stabbed over & over again by its devs, then got a few band-aids and a kiss on the forehead.
Personal note: Robocraft in large part is what inspired me to become a game developer/designer/artist/whatever, and it's why i'm following said course.
If you think I'm wrong in any of what i said, please discuss it with me.
Hmm... You know, I was kinda a little proud of my pilot seats (only have the three not the oldest one, but still...) Because it was something special in a way. I mean other old players had them too, BUT only the old players had them. What's the next thing they do? Sell golden weapons?
Way late to this, but I used to play Robocraft a lot. And over time, I feel the game became progressively less fun. With the removal of the pilot seat, megabots, specialist bots, adding autoheal, it all stripped away a level of complexity I enjoyed. They also added the store, so you'd see a lot of the same meta bots every match. The entire cycle of adding expensive, new weapons that were OP at the outset and were then nerfed was tiresome as well. Oh, and then there was that lootbox thing that was just horrible.
And in all this us who played the game for a long time got kind of left in the dust. It took me a loooooooong time to grind my way up to my megabot. And what did they do? They removed them within 2 months of me getting it. That really felt like a kick in the nads. And then they changed your mega module to the most boring, useless special module as a "thank you". That in no way made up for the time and effort I put into getting that thing. I've tried it a few times since then, but while it still held on to the old spirit for a while, it's gone now. A lot of the most recent changes are aimed at fixing the mistakes they made, but I haven't enjoyed the game in the same way as I did when I just started out. It wasn't perfect, back then. The grind was insane, and there were plenty of meme-builds, like rail platforms.
Also, I remember the Halloween cubes. I got a few of them and built a bot out of them. Then they did the current block update, and they were just taken away. I don't know, man. The game has had a history of giving long time players the finger, both in taking stuff they earned away and in changing the game to become unrecognizable from what it first was. I don't play it anymore. Sometimes I try, but I just can't get back into it.
Exclusive means at least some people get left out. If they came out with new or reskins of exclusives it would be more than fine. If they just where honest about them changing them from exclusive to early access + free, it wouldn't be too bad, but to lie about absolutes they have put forward calls into question the overall stability of the game. Will they go back on other things they said they would or wouldn't do and then lie about it too?
I can see it now:
Community: Bug report. Planes are suddenly not working properly.
FJ: Oh we forgot to mention we changed(nerfed) them drastically to better fit our future plans.
Community: You said you weren't going to make any major changes to how existing parts worked, so we can count on their behavior.
FJ: Sorry we forgot to mention (list of other important changes) and also we meant no major changes for now.
We thought you where different FJ. Now we know you too will make up whatever you want to try to save face in the moment while making more money.
Come to think of it, any exclusive items that they’ve added aren’t exclusive anymore. So eventually, we’ll be able to buy the golden variants!
The seats give me great memories of my playing with my 3 cousins (of wich one has died by wich in greatful for the memories the seats give me) since it was the last game he played with me. And I'm thankful for that experience but I just feel like we got thrown away and that they just want to make money from the players, wich was to be seen when the game was pay 2 win with the crates and how they teased you to buy premium.
i didn't bother with the gold parts, but the gold mortar actually looks kind of cool
I know I'm a bit late to this but, it's interesting to see this sort of video about this company after having met of their main guys and the main guy from Climax Studios (sister company of freejam). Kind of confirmed that I didn't think they were nice guys :/