Olympus LIVE ND Explained - Can It Replace Real ND Filters?
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Olympus introduced Live ND feature in E-M1X, and is now subsequently added to E-M1 Mark III, the lastest flagship too. I have been asked several questions about how the Live ND works, can it work in video, can you use flash with it, can you go ND1000 equivalent? So I thought why not make a video just to talk about this specific feature and explain it once and for all. I discuss how the Live ND Works, the limitations of Live ND as well as how to activate it from your OM-D cameras.
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very happy you still instruct us, Sir!!
Nice video and very good explanation as always! Thanks to you and the other m43 RUclipsrs I learned so much about Olympus cameras and photography in general. Keep your head up, you bring a smile on so many faces with your enthusiasm in your videos!
Features and usability are driving me down the route of an Olympus purchase, This is another fascinating addition. Great video.
Thanks Bob, indeed Olympus features are so innovative!
Thanks Robin, one more time your videos giving me answers.
Thanks Robin! Hope you're doing well!
Excellent tutorial, or better said, excellent lesson! Thank you so much!
Thanks, I am glad the video is useful
Great info as always! Keep giving us those ever-important honest pros and CONS of Olympus and OM. Enjoy your coffee
Nice backdrop with the rain, Robin.
That was not rain actually, it was a fountain, but from a distance it does look like rain.
That is one clear and concise. Explanation ,just need my camera to arrive now ,thanks robin
How to thank you enough! You are the best, Robin.
Thanks, Robin! Even though I don't have en em1X or an em1 iii, I found your video very interesting as always. It's exciting to know the features that are available in the newer cameras.
Thanks Gilbert, I always share what I can!
I just realized that the Olympus User Manuals for the both the E-M1X and the E-M1 Mklll are in error regarding the Shutter Speed limitations for Live ND. Both manual state that "The slowest shutter speed available varies with the ND filter selected." It should say, "The fastest shutter speed available...". Maybe Robin can pass this on to Olympus for future correction.
Thanks Robin for this excellent and clear presentation of this very useful feature.
Not having the mkIII, I don't have to worry about this,just screw on the 6 or 10 stopper and away I go. Stay healthy my friend.
No worries, it can't replace real ND filters for most part at this moment.
When I just got mkIII tried to use live ND , of course without reading manual ;) first. So had to learn all of these limitations hard way ;) I wish I would see your video before , it would save me from scratching my head many times. I think this feature should be treated as ‘in camera’ effect , very similar to focus stacking and as long as you know limitations it can come handy in particular situations. Thanks Robin for another useful video!
Thanks for the kind words. Sorry I did not get to explain the Live ND earlier. As you are aware, I do not own the E-M1 Mark III or E-M1X, and only recently Olympus reopened (after easing of Lockdown in Malaysia) and I requested a loan unit for E-M1 Mark III.
Thanks for this great tutorial regarding live ND on the Mk III. Sad about what is happening with Olympus, but I'm partial to M4/3 (including Panasonic, as I use both) and will continue to enjoy them as long as I can. Just got the MKIII a week or so ago to compliment my Panny G9 and I am loving it! They both have their strengths and minor weaknesses.
Thanks Christopher. There are so many things to like about the E-M1 Mark III, enjoy your new camera!
Once again, a video filled with useful information!!! Thanks for sharing Robin!!
Thanks Dave, appreciate the kind words
Great explanation, Robin - both of the potential and limitations 👍👍
Nice transitions and edit, Robin.
Thanks Gabriel
Thank you so much again,learn so much from you
Great video as always Robin. Keep safe.
Thanks William!
Nice video Robin. What camera and lens did you film this on. It looks awesome.
Great Infos Robin!
do you think will there ever be live-nd for video too?
Cheers Robin. Love you work so hope what I sent helps 👍🏼👍🏼
Great video as usual..when using Live nd you must physically turn it off..don’t forget this otherwise things won’t work as expected…it took me 5 minutes today wondering why my flash wouldn’t work!!
Hi Robin, thanks for another great video - excellent clear explanation. I am looking forward to trying this when my mk.III arrives in a few days.
Hi Robin - I have to figure out if the Oly EM5 Mk iii has Live ND. Thx for the video.
Thank you for sharing your expertise....
No worries, I share what I can!
Great video, Robin, thanks. At 12.50 you said “you cannot shoot anything faster than this shutter speed (1/2 second). You probably meant anything slower.
No you can't go faster. Meaning you can't go 1/4 or 1/1000, you can go slower like 1 sec, 5 sec
Nice again Robin. How about something short on high key and low key photography. Maybe it is not used a lot because its not fully understood. Will appreciate.
I don't do such photography though, in case you have not noticed my images are always quite well balanced, not tipping too far to black or white, as high and low key photography would require.
Lately I’ve really switched on to using Low Key gradation with Contrast +1. If relying on the camera to meter then yes you get a darker image with highlights better preserved. BUT, if you bump up the Exp Comp and use the histogram to meter you get a slightly richer colour palette than if using Standard Gradation. I’ve done many tests and now LOVE Low Key Grad. In Monochrome is where Low Key Gradation (+1 contrast) really shines, by far the best OM-D setting for Monochrome, deeper blacks but still able to deliver true whites for contrast. Basically a better tonal range... in my opinion.
Thanks for the video, For me Live ND is particularly useful for the 7 - 14 f2.8, as well any lens with a bulbous element. Those 150mm filter kits are too big and cumbersome.
great video Robin.
Thanks!
Thank you Robin.
With AF, we can bracket to stitch later, or stack in camera. It's a shame we don't have equivalent choices for live ND, exposure bracketing (beyond JPEG), live composite, high resolution etc. Any of the Olympus cameras could store the individual images for live ND and the others, and Olympus Workspace could process them on a (beefy) PC to create the final raw files.
Thank you for the video explaining the filter effect, I bought the em1 mark11 as its a good buy ,i am glad I didn’t stretch my funds to get the mark 111
keep the great videos coming!
Thanks Greg
This can be done with any camera of any brand, just get a series of pictures with shorter shutter speed, align them and use any software to do an average of all those exposures. But, it's cool that Olympus can do that in-camera and into RAW as well as I read. Impressive.
Thanks!
Thanks so much!
Superb video, thanks.
Thanks, i couldn't decide which of the 243232543243 options button configuration give to the 12-40 pro Fn button.
Thank you Robin. Another feature explained with pros and cons. Before I had E-M1 Mark III and forgot to bring a ND filter I shoot multiple exposures and merged them in Photoshop for a simulated ND effect. To have that made directly in camera is a bonus. Now I can view the effect directly on the LCD and dicide how strong effect I need.
No worries, I share what I can. Indeed the compositing modes can also be replicated in post-processing, but being able to do that in camera, and live, with RAW output, is really something!
Hi Robin, I’ve been following you for a long time, I wonder if it’s possible to mark favourite photo in camera on the EM1x - i.e rank - many thanks
The FP flash mode is a good substitute for the ND filter in many cases. Don't you plan to talk about it in an upcoming video?
Hope that it's not too long before I can visit Merdeka Sq too. I might have to buy and bring a mk3 for those great effects :D
Hi Robin, great video.I have a question. I want to photograph wind turbines during the day, and make them look like daisies in the desert. I was thinking of live ND, with a polarizer, or use hires mode with long shutter speeds, what are your thoughts. Thank you for your time and your great videos. BTW, this is a mini project:)
Hi Robin!
Can you use this feature with panasonic lens?? It does not work, according to me.
Nope, the thing, that it'll not be in other cameras is just marketing issue. Why you would buy expensive M1 Mark III, it all of the features exists in M5 or M10.
Processor? Well, it can affect the speed of stacking frames. It's not a problem, if camera will shoot 3/4 frames and then go for stacking, as it does in saving series or bracketing.
Everyone just need to make more money, so Olympus too :)
Nice video btw, but i wanted to see the difference with water on ND16 and ND32. I think on ND32 there'll be much better pic.
Thank you :)
Hi Robin, i came from the Mk2 to the OM1 and tried the Live ND and there are more limitations unfortunately : You cannot use Live ND above 60 seconds and Cannot combine Live ND with LiveTime ! I am really disappointed about that as i do a lot of very Long exposures....
Robin... do you think we will see a Grad and Inverse grad filters in future releases???
I have been doing some forest photography last weekend. 30km walked on saturday and 20 on sunday. NO TRIPOD, NO 7-14 filters (150mm). I saved like 3kgs in total of weigt. (I took the 12-40 too with the mandatory polarizer and ND6 and ND10 for emergencies... but if you don't need to do long long exposures, EM1.3 is the absolute definitive weapon
I don't think there is ANY camera in the market even close to EM1.3 for a landscape photographer (any sensor size)
Thanks
Robin, is the resulting ND photo a raw image? Thanks. Mark
Sadly I doubt we will be getting much if any Firmware updates, even onthe EM-1 mk.III or X. I would have loved to have seen what goodies were in a 2.0 and 3.0 firmware update.
Hi Robin, have you tried using liveND mode for a sunset?
It´s a very handy feature, I used it some times and I never knew how it works, thank you Robin. Another feature drives me crazy. I used often the Foto stacking mode in my Olympus OM-D EM10 II , the picture was made ready in the camera. I heard that this also works in OM-D EM1 III , but I always get single pictures to stack them on a computer. The option "Foto stacking" in the Menu was always greyed out! How can I activate it and how can I manage that the camera makes the Foto stacking?? In M10 it was so easy!
There are limitations in which shutter settings can be used. Without checking I think you have to be in one of the electronic shutter modes. There may be something to do with focus points being used as well.
I have a video on Focus Stacking. Go see that video, it was quite a recent one too.
Hi Robin. With HHHR I get same effect as ND when at the beach shooting waves. They both take multiple shots in a very short time, and use processing. So what is the difference, and when viewing photos is there realy any benefits between one or other?
And for video? Can it be use?
Are there any slow shutter speed limitations also? Can you do a minute or 5 minutes long exposure in really low light? Thanks
hi Robin, I own the em1 mark 3, but I'm worried about buying more olympus lenses like 40-150 pro. Any new info about the future of olympus? I hope the brand won't disappear.
I own the 40-150 PRO. It is an almost perfect lens! I wouldn't hesitate buying it again if I needed to. Read Thom Hogan's review on it at his Sans Mirror website.
Thanks, great and informative
Thanks Robin. If I’m shooting raw, is the resulting live ND image in raw format?
Yes, you can shoot with Live ND and save your images in RAW
Thank you so much for the detailed view. I really appreciate it. I do use ND filters now, with the Pen-F and a couple of lenses. This feature really intrigued me and was a stumbling block on the E-M5 MKIII verses the E-M1 MKIII debate as its a $500 difference (at the moment Nov 2020.) and maybe I just go with the E-M5 and continue to focus stars by hand (really used to that as I do a lot of Astro, too). That said, this video gave me reason to see how I would use the Live ND in addition to and separate from my regular ND setups so, I'm making the leap and buying the E-M1 (today) and I now *also* look forward to shooting stars with AF in the coming months as nebula season is upon us. Thank you! Happy Holidays.
I wish they would add this to the lower number models
Sounds all great on paper, but ND32 ( 5EV) is never enough for me, so I regret not having a real ND filter every single time when I am out there with my E-M1X.
Another times I was trying to use the Built in ND was when I was shooting with my F0.95 lens for portrait under the bight light, even 1/8000 shutter was little too bright, so I said cool, lucky I have my EM1X today and we have a magic tool call Live ND, so let me let me call it up, and guess what, the damn feature has a fastest shutter speed of 1/2 second, WHAT A JOKE !!!
Olympus LIVE ND 可以用在拍視頻嗎? Does it work in video shooting?
I think the new 100 macro+mc20 will be one of olympus top len Wow
will a polarize filter do the same thing???
Silly me, but I had thought the ND filter was a mechanical filter that dropped inside the camera.
I'd imagine life would be much simpler too
So this can only be used in really low light, maybe those extended low ISO's may be of use ?
You can use this is bright conditions, I found no issue with that.
@@robinwong That's good to hear, I thought those shutter speed limitations would be a problem. When I can go somewhere with water I will try it out.
I tried to buy you a coffee, but nothing happens when I hit submit.
can it show moving clouds? Then that is all I need
I have not tried this, but I would think work if the clouds are moving pretty fast. However, 'Live Composite' would probably make more sense for cloud movement.
To me, it looks like focus stacking without a change of focus. It shouldn't be too difficult to introduce it to cameras that already have focus stacking.
Focus stacking works very, very differently. They are composites of course, but they stack using different methods. Live ND is much closer to Live Composite than anything else.
Focus stacking does make the images first, stores them in the buffer storage and merges them afterwards, that's why you get the progression bar afterwards and have to wait. It's basically just burst shutter mode with focus shift an computation afterwards. Live ND does all this while taking the pictures and even shows you the current result. That's waaaaay more complicated for the camera's processor. Cheers!
thanks wong👏
Can you use your hss flash in
live n/d
Why in the world would you want to use flash? Flash freezes motion!
Can Live ND be used with additional ND filter added to lens?
Don't see why not -- you're just reducing the light coming through the lens.
@@gregm6894 You are absolutely right!
Could you use the camera ND with a ND filter on lens.
Also do you use ND filters, if so which type. Thanks for sharing Robin.
Hey Roy, yes, you can use ND filter on the lens, at the same time using camera's Live ND feature.
I don't have any particular brands to recommend, I buy whatever I can find here locally, brands including Marumi and Hoya just to name a few.
Got yourself a mk3? Congrats!
Nope, on loan from Olympus...............
I use high res mode to obtain a similar effect: which is the actual difference in real life?
If something moves in high res, it looks bad because the frames are shifted and there are jumps and gaps in the motion blur. Live ND takes the pictures with a continuous exposure, so the readout is going on for 1/30s or longer. If something moves, you get the expected motion blur.
Too bad it doesn't work with flash. That would have made it really useful to me.
Olympus make some totally awesome lenses. Why not simply design a lens with inbuilt deployable filters ? No need for computational/artificial limitations. Although, I guess with the recent developments not sure how the RnD will progress at NewCo.
Thanks!
Thanks so much Michael, appreciate that