Similar thing happened in Napoleonic-style line battle tactics. If the standard bearer fell, the guy next to him would drop his rifle and pick up the flag. It was considered an honor to hold the symbol of the unit you were in.
@@caiocaguiar9310 Depends on, if it were create by soldiers, probably they'd use a language that every one could understand. If it were create by some noble you are right.
@@davidchristian8473 But man that's the thing, the only language that would be common to all of them would be Latin ( and Greek as we are talking about the Eastern Part of the Empire). The legions were recruited from different tribes and different parts of the Empire, and as the Romans were very kin to the idea of homogeneity the make sure that everyone spoke Latin or/and Greek in the legions, so much so that the strongest source of linguistic Romanisation was from ex-legioneres returning home ( Afinal você acha que os lusitanos do que viria a se tornar Portugal já falavam uma Língua LATINA ?)
Well, Romans here refer to 'Terra Brittanorum' (with lately became Britannia), named after 'Prittanoi', the native celtic britons (prittanoi in celtic tongue means something like 'painted people', because of their use to paint markings on their bodies).
@@pzg_kami6472 ahahah Iranian propaganda is really funny Ahahaha who the fuck mind about Persians comparing with Romans lol. Romans kicked their ass too bro. "What about Carrae??" yeah, Romans lost but what happened later? Ctesiphon has been sacked several times. THE CAPITAL, BRO. THE FUCKING CAPITAL.
The Romans were civilised but they reminded me of the Borg from Star Trek in that they had this urge to conquer anything in it's path with the aim of improving the quality of life of the conquered, that and to tax them. It was a double edge sword, on the one hand you don't really want to be conquered but there was a lot of benefits being part of the Roman Empire as we've seen how the Romans developed a lot of the conquered people.
In the book I wrote, I have the main protagonist as a Roman and a barbarian and the Germanic rebels and the Huns are antagonists. But the main villain is the Emperor Valentinian III.
"oh really? But we already have civilization. You know, buildings, laws, taxes, morals etc" "tough. We're bringing you Roman civilisation. Oh and btw, you'll be paying us your taxes from now on"
Idiots: What did romans ever do for us?! -the aqueducts -roads -Laws -Security -wealth -Knowledge -Better buildings -Writings -Religious tolerance (unless you were revolting) -Tasty wine -Excellent military systems
Claro,claro. Eran tan "buenos" que arrojaban a los cristianos ( hombres,ancianos,mujeres y niños) a las fieras en los anfiteatros como entretenimiento. Además de ser los romanos quienes torturaron y crucificaron a Nuestro Señor Jesucristo.
Definetely not. To start, they would never use Lorica Segmentata while in a desert, it is simply too hot. They would use Lorica Hamata. Then have these armors and shield in terrible condition. During its apex, roman soldiers would march and fight with ptrestine looking equipment to be more imposing. Then... WHY IS THERE A LEGION STATIONED ON JERUSALEM BEFORE THE BAR KOCHBA REVOLT?
You re right. Those auxiliaries look Sirian, one of the best archers by the time. But the historical accuracy is pretty bad. First the equipment, such their pila (javelins), the lorica, helmets... (look picts and vids of Roman revivalists). I love the march, but they ve a few fails in the Latin pronunciation. Still cool and so epic anyways :D
Give them proper equipment for starters. But that’s unrealistic. However, you could get in loads of re-enactment groups- that’s what they did for Gladiator. I know ; I was there 🙃
I just love how quickly the Legionaires act when someone is shot , all the legionaires in the maniple just rush to form testudo , which shows how efficient and disciplined the Roman Army was
@@ekulzonum What? Diocletian's reforms only strengthened the Roman army, and the legions survived. The last legion- Legio V Macedonica, founded by Augustus himself- was stationed in Egypt in the 7th century fighting the invading Muslims when it was most likely destroyed. Imagine being part of a military regiment that existed before Christ was born and fighting Mohammad's followers after his death.
0:14 Legio aeterna victrix! (Eternal legion victorious!) 0:46 Roma o Roma! (Rome oh Rome!) 1:03 Sit italica sua vis, nostrum munus patri Marti! (Her strength is Italic, our duty to the father Mars!) 1:12 Legio aeterna victrix! Roma o Roma! (Eternal legion victorious! Rome oh Rome!) 1:43 Supra terram Britannorum volat aquila legionum! (Flies the eagle of the legions above the land of the Britons!) 1:52 Legio aeterna victrix! Roma o Roma! (Eternal legion victorious! Rome oh Rome!) 2:09 A ferventi aestuosa Libya volat aquila legionum supra terram Britannorum! (From the scorching hot Libya flies the eagle of the legions above the land of the Britons!)
In Romania western Europe they calls us gypsies . That's another story to talk . But Romania is the reminder of the Roman Empire legacy . Not because of the western ideology bullshit .
@@adryannthedefender701 Rome is in Italy not Romania.. go to Rome itself if you want to see what remains of the once great empire, mostly bits and pieces but I understand where you're coming from
I loved this scene, too. I am sure some people thought watching the movie, "Really, they are singing?" I have read though that Roman soldiers did often sing on the march, to pass time I guess. They would also sing entering and leaving friendly towns sometimes; although some of the words may not have been so virtuous.
JayDene Kail roman soldiers would often sing to help keep pace during the march, they also did this in the navy to help the rowers, except during naval engagements in which case they used the drums
They sang while marching but in battle they were completely silent. It freaked barbarian armies out, seeing a bunch of people move in a cohesive manner while being so silent... They must have looked like androids
They help keep pace, as well as motivation and morale. Like modern cadences, the chant would sometimes be unique to the unit, likely citing where the legion has been and victories they had won and poking fun at the enemy. Most chants, however, would include something along the lines of "I'm far from my woman" or "One man, many steps", some would be quite lewd and others would be funny which do, in fact, help pass time. It's pretty interesting stuff.
I mean we do it now, lots of Armies had marching Cadences I'm sure they weren't the first either. We all build on the success of those who come before us they probably got it from the Spartans or the Macedonians or something.
By ancient standards Rome was extremely reasonable. Low taxes and access to the world's greatest trade network protected by the greatest army in history.
Persia was as well. When Alexander campainged to free the Helenic citites under persian rule, they literally told him to piss off that they are doing just fine. Low taxes, local Greek governments... After 2 months of marching through Turkey and not "liberating" a single city, he got very desperate. Check it our. Really interesting.
>low taxes Hell no, depending the emperor, yes it was market, but not free, also there was "workers rights" and every roman or anyone that lived in the Roman Empire was free unless the war slaves, also Gaius give bread to every one in Rome
@@petrmiros9908 Not gonna lie, that sounds accurate, Alexander also wanted to be the next Cyrus the Great but he died of Irish syndrom before he could do anything
I'm Italian and this is pretty impressive, they're accent is pretty good! Amazing Roman era, they're more advanced and civilized than many countries now in 2018!
This is one of the most intimidating scene of the roman army I've seen yet. The organization, training and how equipped they were. If not for the roman empire, the world would be a MUCH different place.
One thing always left out in Roman movies is the singing. This movie captured it. Since in the real world these massive number of soldiers always sang and it was the most terrifying sound to a city where the army is approaching.
Oui en effet, tous comme les cingulum des légionnaires ont également été conçus pour émettre de son de cliquetis multiplié par les milliers de soldats en rang serré pour impressionner l'adversaire, ce qui marchait plutôt bien d'ailleurs. En ce qui concerne le chant, en effet la tradition du chant militaire vient bien de l'armée romaine, en revanche le chant qu'on entend dans ce film n'est pas du tout attesté historiquement, on n'a pas à ce jour retrouve quoi que ce soit qui puisse nous permettre de reconstituer fidèlement un champ militaire, bien qu'on sache qu'il y en aient eu. Ceci dit, cela reste une reconstitution hypothétique très réussie à mon sens, et je sens au fond de mon âme (de romain) que ce n'est pas si fantasque que cela, cette chanson résonne dans l'écho de l'éternité ;)
and the smell...read accounts of when Romans/auxiliaries were marching, the stench of alcohol leaching out in their sweat could be smelt long distances. I do remember that smell first hand when our airborne infantry company in the Canal Zone ran PT Monday mornings.
Wouldnt have hurt to use more Lorica Hamatas. The Segmentata was quite fresh at this time and seeing Roman soldiers had to provide their own armor, it's hardly accurate to have a thousand legionaires all in Segmentata, all in red and all exactly a like. Besides. Legion X Fretensis was placed in Acre from around 6 BC till 50 AD. No record exists of them being stationed in Jerusalem in 26-36 AD.
Here is a picture of the empire in the year 117 AD, under the rule of emperor Trajan: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire#/media/File:Roman_Empire_Trajan_117AD.png The land where modern day Turkey lies was under roman control in the times of the late republic already: In the 2nd century BC, following the era of Alexander the Great, Anatolia was a land of several independent kingdoms. Some of them had direct dealings with the Roman republic, and relations were not always good. Roman legions poured into Anatolia to do battle with King Antiochus III of Seleucia. They defeated him at Magnesia (Manisa, near Izmir) in 190 BC, and left the government of Anatolia in the hands of the now-powerful kings of Pergamum (or Pergamon, modern Bergama). The last king of Pergamum’s royal line died in 133 BC without an heir, and bequeathed his kingdom to Rome. In 129 BC the Roman republic claimed Anatolia as its own, establishing the province of Asia (or Asia Minor), with its capital at Ephesus.
what I find interesting is how at the beginning of the scene the shields are hilariously small, but it looks as if they get bigger as the scene progresses
Joshua Fogg I think they’re implying the shields themselves are different sizes, and they’re right. The shields used early on during the march past the cemetery are not the same as the ones used in the tetsudo. The film made use of preexisting props from other films and shows, which is likely why the size varies from scene to scene - either due to differences in manufacturing or to represent different eras of the Roman army.
Roman Army caligae (the leather sandals) had several hobnails in each caliga in a form of “treads”. This made it slightly better to grip in the mud and rough terrain. It also made a very distinct sound as large units of soldiers hit those metal hobnails into the street as they marched. Contemporary writers mention this. It’s a shame they didn’t put this into the movie; maybe it would have been too distracting or loud.
With the exception of a Hellenic or civilized Eastern army, that would almost certainly frighten any person who is never seen an organized, massive cohesive army. Too bad the clip cu ts off right as they form testudo and proceed to invade the Hur home, best part of the movie.
I agree, with a number of exceptions however (such as Alexander the Great and his army), but they were definitely at least tough enough that they wouldn't be scared of the Romans.
Averroes The Commentator I give appropriate credit to Alexander....but I would take Gaius Julius Caesar and his vaunted Roman Legions or their successors over any Greek General and their Phalanx any day. Leonidas and his Spartans are about as close to The Romans as The Greeks can get. Remember...on The Book of Macabbees...Israel eventually signs treaties with Republican Rome and Sparta (signified on bronze tablets) that largely kept the Alexandrian Greek Nations at bay.
Nobody knows how shield of X(X Fretensis.Name is very important since in the Roman often more legions with the same numerals existed.It was from that reasons they started adding names next to numerals to their regiments)legion looked like.It is an error I see on the internet very often-people knowing that legions had symbolic animals but incorrectly supposing that this animal was depicted on every legion shields.In reality we do have evidence for some legions really having its emblematic animal depicted on its shields but we have even much more evidence that majority of Legions did not use their emblematic animal on shields at all.Also,what people often tend to ignore,is the fact that shield emblems were changing with time and were not still the same during those centuries.If we would believe to Vegetius moreover each cohort in a single legion had its own shield design.Few real Roman and not Hollywood marching songs are known by the way.
Okay let's be real. The sound and look of the roman army marching to another land to conquer, as usual. So awesome. I mean look at that massive organized and well-trained legion. The most badass military force in history, without the Roman Empire, our world would be VERY different.. Not sure if in the good way or bad way... Probably bad considering how many advancements they made in science, technology, agriculture, waste management, philosophy, politics, morals, and community, this feels like the sound and sight of approaching civilization and progression
The movie is about jewish guy who was arrested unfairly, about his long journey and redemption and still Romans marching in Jerusalem is the most viewed scene. BASED
Then why do we speak now in Anglo Saxon, a Germanic language and not in a Romance language? Because the Germanics made the Romans their bitch in the end.
The nice thing is that Even if they are singing, you can actually easily understand what they sing. That latin pronunciation is the best I have ever seen in a Hollywood movie.
Alan Panaligan That's exactly where it's from though I'm not sure how legitimate it is but I remember that cadence from my time at Sand Hill Ft Benning, GA
That's exactly what I was thinking too...I parallels are often drawn between the Roman and American Army in films, whether its an insult or a complement is debatable.
Definitely my favorite scene of that otherwise poor movie. If someday, somebody finds that song (and, why not, more like those), don't hesitate to send them to me. In the meantime, strength and honor !
Glorious Rome, we salute you!!! You who civilized a big part of the barbarian world!! You who forbad the word "surrender" when the flower of your army was massacred by Hannibal in Canae!!! You who recovered your city in 390 BC after it had been conquered by the Gauls!! You, who defeated the tall and terrible Cimbri and Teutones, a Viking race!!!! You, who avenged in a terrible way the 3 legions lost under Varus to the Germans, by re-crossing the Rhine and kicking their asses!!! You, who civilized even your conquerors, the ones who made you fall!!!! Oh glorious Rome, we, the civilized World, salute you!!!!
@@jamborginiii1732It never happened boy if not in German Romantic imagination. Learn history. Germanicus almost conquered the whole land, Tiberius was jealous of his success and paranoid and therefore he ordered the legions to retreat and consolidated the "limes" in Southern Germany, who was fully romanized.
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I would imagine in real life singing like this in the desert, their mouths would be dry as kindling. But a great idea of the singing power of a Roman legion.
Ancient roman legions sound marching would put so much respect, imagine thousands of feet marching + the sound of metal armor and songs like this... Amazing sight
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Emperor Golfin Ok its obvious youre trolling but if you meant me I can assure you that Nazis most certainly werent pro-white but rather pro-aryan, two complete different things.
The legionaries were roman (therefore technically European) but the auxiliaries probably weren't. Romans were never archers. Wouldn't most people consider romans to be more Mediterranean than European? Many emperors were born outside of Europe.
I feel obliged to ask this because I know I will find fellow Ancient Rome fans. Why is the legion using this type of shield? it seems smaller than classic Testudo. Great scene, the music, the drums and the singing make it feels intimidating.
Firstly, the name of the shield was the scutum; just a bit of naming trivia for you. :) Secondly, the scutum is smaller here because reasons. It's probably more of an aesthetic choice, than it is anything else, mainly to show the Roman armor off more than the shields. We've seen plenty of the Marian scutum in other works (I personally disagree, but that's probably what it is), so they decided to show us post-Marian armor.
I know it is called Scutum :) but I used the word shield to make it easier to people to understand the question if they ignore the name. I've seen this kind of "scutum" before but I don't think its very accurate and not very practical for the Roman formations, that makes me cringe a little bit.
@ Fungihair I believe the armor in this movie was a compilation of armor used in previous productions. For example, some of the soldiers wear helmets and segmented armor from "The Bible" series that premiered on TV a few years ago. Second, there are actuall2 two kinds of shields in use here. The first type we see is smaller (:25) and looks exactly like the shields used in the old, classic Roman epics like "The Fall of the Roman Empire" and the TV miniseries "Masada" from the 1960's-70's era. Search for clips from those films and you'll spot those shields. The second shields, if you look closely, are at :52-53 seconds. There are larger and have a different motif (less arrows, smaller wings, and no flat iron rim) and were also used the the movie "The Eagle" with Channing Tatum. If you watch enough of these movies, you'll start to recognize things you've seen before. Generally speaking, most Roman films scrounge around warehouses in the area where filming is taking place and find costumes leftover from other projects. Sometimes, the same production company already owns costumes from a previous film and reuses them. To this day, the only film that has ever really depicted the Roman Scutum accurately was "Gladiator." Those shields in the Germania scene were made for the film and were plywood (not metal, as seen here) and were authentically rimmed in brass and painted.
I love the little things like the guy next to the Aquilifier instantly jumping to take the Eagle Standard so that it wouldn't fall to the ground or how the archers are All Auxilary in Lorica Squamata.
A totally forgettable movie with miscast actors but the Roman legion marching scene is memorable. The cadence chant "Legio - Aeterna - Aeterna - Victrixis" is great even if it was created for the movie and there is no historical evidence to support it.
The Middle east is the best thing that happen to both Greece and Rome. They took tons of their civilization from the Middle East cultures like Persia, Babylon, Assyria, Egypt, etc. Without those Middle eastern cultures, both geeeks and romans would have stayed similarly in a level of culture similar to the kelts or germanics.
*Sigh.....*
*Starts up Rome Total War*
Yup!
Here we go again
HAHAHA YES
heck yeah... love the romans so much their power was truly glorious.
Go Scipii loved that faction, the others were either very angry or drunks.
like how when the standard bearer falls the first instinct of the man next to him is not to duck for cover, but to prevent the Eagle from falling
It would be very bad luck to let it touch the ground
I guess he'd rather take an arrow to the knee.
They would all die for their Eagle standard, no matter what.
That was the signifer, not the aquilfier. So he was carrying the sign of the legion, which for X fretensis was the bull.
Similar thing happened in Napoleonic-style line battle tactics. If the standard bearer fell, the guy next to him would drop his rifle and pick up the flag. It was considered an honor to hold the symbol of the unit you were in.
I love the fact that they had the Romans singing in Latin.
@Solve Everything Wait what?
They couldn’t sing in korean for sure
Shame that was not in Classical Latin pronunciation, which would be accurate for the period.
@@caiocaguiar9310 Depends on, if it were create by soldiers, probably they'd use a language that every one could understand. If it were create by some noble you are right.
@@davidchristian8473 But man that's the thing, the only language that would be common to all of them would be Latin ( and Greek as we are talking about the Eastern Part of the Empire). The legions were recruited from different tribes and different parts of the Empire, and as the Romans were very kin to the idea of homogeneity the make sure that everyone spoke Latin or/and Greek in the legions, so much so that the strongest source of linguistic Romanisation was from ex-legioneres returning home ( Afinal você acha que os lusitanos do que viria a se tornar Portugal já falavam uma Língua LATINA ?)
"From Libya to England, our army's eagle flies" damn that'll taunt and scare everyone back then
TK damn right!! them romans know how to make a goddamn entrance yknow what im sayin?
And the sound of marching iranian armies (Arsacid dynasty at the time) scares any roman soldier !
Well, Romans here refer to 'Terra Brittanorum' (with lately became Britannia), named after 'Prittanoi', the native celtic britons (prittanoi in celtic tongue means something like 'painted people', because of their use to paint markings on their bodies).
That's such a casually "in your face" fucking taunt and I love it lmao Roma Invicta!
@@pzg_kami6472 ahahah Iranian propaganda is really funny Ahahaha who the fuck mind about Persians comparing with Romans lol. Romans kicked their ass too bro. "What about Carrae??" yeah, Romans lost but what happened later? Ctesiphon has been sacked several times. THE CAPITAL, BRO. THE FUCKING CAPITAL.
"what is that?"
"It is civilization coming to you" ;D
Laurynas K :))
Laurynas K Roman were civilised haha, they were like nowadays American
Lunar Incident yes, and they killed everyone who didn't accept to pay taxes to them
it's a myth that there was only the roman civilisation
The Romans were civilised but they reminded me of the Borg from Star Trek in that they had this urge to conquer anything in it's path with the aim of improving the quality of life of the conquered, that and to tax them.
It was a double edge sword, on the one hand you don't really want to be conquered but there was a lot of benefits being part of the Roman Empire as we've seen how the Romans developed a lot of the conquered people.
They keep portraying the Romans as villains, but everyone keeps rooting for them regardless
In the book I wrote, I have the main protagonist as a Roman and a barbarian and the Germanic rebels and the Huns are antagonists. But the main villain is the Emperor Valentinian III.
Who is they?
because rome is based all they're murder pillaging and theft included its all based
any empire shows villains features, from the beggining of man kind to the present
@@ugheieiemmmfmfmff The bergs, the steins and the vitzs
“Dude what’s that sound?”
“Oh that? That’s just the sound of civilization coming right for you.”
"oh really? But we already have civilization. You know, buildings, laws, taxes, morals etc"
"tough. We're bringing you Roman civilisation. Oh and btw, you'll be paying us your taxes from now on"
redcardinalist Just let us have our fun dude
Idiots: What did romans ever do for us?!
-the aqueducts
-roads
-Laws
-Security
-wealth
-Knowledge
-Better buildings
-Writings
-Religious tolerance (unless you were revolting)
-Tasty wine
-Excellent military systems
They were quite civilized already
@@pergys6991 and a whole lot of persecution
Me: "Yeah! I won the lottery!"
The Family I haven't talked to in 10 years: 0:24
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Sorry... I MAY have killed Vulpes Inculta
AHAHAHAHAH
Any attempt to make the Romans look like the bad guys will indubitably fail and only make them look 10x cooler
Claro,claro. Eran tan "buenos" que arrojaban a los cristianos ( hombres,ancianos,mujeres y niños) a las fieras en los anfiteatros como entretenimiento. Además de ser los romanos quienes torturaron y crucificaron a Nuestro Señor Jesucristo.
@@sergiovalenzuelasoto5694 por orden de los judíos
Poor signifer, he was so close to retirement
it is just a scratch
He was going to marry his schola sweetheart...
Shouldn't have showed the picture of the boat he was going to retire on to his partner.
time to write a short story 👍
That's probably not even a joke dude.
I'm the only one who noticed that the roman archers are *Auxiliary forces*? The historical accuracy it's really nice.
There is almost zero historical accuracy in this.Its terrible example of mere "Hollywwod Romans".
Definetely not. To start, they would never use Lorica Segmentata while in a desert, it is simply too hot. They would use Lorica Hamata. Then have these armors and shield in terrible condition. During its apex, roman soldiers would march and fight with ptrestine looking equipment to be more imposing. Then... WHY IS THERE A LEGION STATIONED ON JERUSALEM BEFORE THE BAR KOCHBA REVOLT?
@@andresalgado9375 There were revolts before the Bar Kokhba one. As early as Vespassian
You re right. Those auxiliaries look Sirian, one of the best archers by the time. But the historical accuracy is pretty bad. First the equipment, such their pila (javelins), the lorica, helmets... (look picts and vids of Roman revivalists). I love the march, but they ve a few fails in the Latin pronunciation. Still cool and so epic anyways :D
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"Fires Arrow...."
"Civilization has just joined the chat"
Rome: So... y'all want to buy some civilization... Well you're either going to get it voluntarily or by force
I found the subtitled version... I think this is the most accurate version.
ruclips.net/video/P7bkjfRuuWw/видео.html
this is my pillum, this is my spear.
this pierces the guts, the other the rear.
Got a Crusade face? Show me your Crusade face! AAAAAH!!!
This march is so epic! Especially with the marching song!
no, no it isnt. take the music away and watch it again
should have been done better
Music is one of the strongest foundations of emotions.
Give them proper equipment for starters. But that’s unrealistic. However, you could get in loads of re-enactment groups- that’s what they did for Gladiator. I know ; I was there 🙃
Marching song* all armies have them
agreed brother
I just love how quickly the Legionaires act when someone is shot , all the legionaires in the maniple just rush to form testudo , which shows how efficient and disciplined the Roman Army was
key word is was.
@@brintsmith2329 damn diocletian and his reforms!
@@ekulzonum What? Diocletian's reforms only strengthened the Roman army, and the legions survived. The last legion- Legio V Macedonica, founded by Augustus himself- was stationed in Egypt in the 7th century fighting the invading Muslims when it was most likely destroyed. Imagine being part of a military regiment that existed before Christ was born and fighting Mohammad's followers after his death.
@@zippyparakeet1074 wow dude this is so impressive I didn't know a legion founded in the 1st century BC existed until the 7th century AD
Not only that, very first move was to ensure that the Legion's standard didn't hit the ground when the banner herald was hit.
Visit Italy, before italy visits you.
Underrated
Hahahahaha
Sad Mussolini Noises
I found the subtitled version... I think this is the most accurate version.
ruclips.net/video/P7bkjfRuuWw/видео.html
Italica
0:14 Legio aeterna victrix! (Eternal legion victorious!)
0:46 Roma o Roma! (Rome oh Rome!)
1:03 Sit italica sua vis, nostrum munus patri Marti! (Her strength is Italic, our duty to the father Mars!)
1:12 Legio aeterna victrix! Roma o Roma! (Eternal legion victorious! Rome oh Rome!)
1:43 Supra terram Britannorum volat aquila legionum! (Flies the eagle of the legions above the land of the Britons!)
1:52 Legio aeterna victrix! Roma o Roma! (Eternal legion victorious! Rome oh Rome!)
2:09 A ferventi aestuosa Libya volat aquila legionum supra terram Britannorum! (From the scorching hot Libya flies the eagle of the legions above the land of the Britons!)
Thank you very much!!!
You are welcome!
I think the song has no a particular name because it was written for the movie.
thank you for this!
Not at all! It's my duty!
Holy shit is the governor Euron Greyjoy?!
And golden company
@@Davenlannister2323 at least they will actually do something instead of dying immidiatly
Or maybe Euron Greyjoy is the governor Pontius Pilate.
Put it simply, yes
Ugh don't make me remember that shitshow
Accurate, the Romans had war-dogs; the ancestor of the Rottweiler.
So what's your point? It's just a movie.
Tarzee Says:
Well, they were actually more akin to mastiffs. If you want a really good idea of the Molossus, look at the Neopolitan Mastiff.
Brint Smith so what's your point? It's not like seeing a M1A1 Abrams at the battle of waterloo seem important.
@@madwolf0966
That would be kind of badass, actually.
@@ThatOneMan830 mastino napoletano / cane corso.
When Rome comes knocking on the door.
In Romania western Europe they calls us gypsies . That's another story to talk . But Romania is the reminder of the Roman Empire legacy . Not because of the western ideology bullshit .
@@adryannthedefender701 Rome is in Italy not Romania.. go to Rome itself if you want to see what remains of the once great empire, mostly bits and pieces but I understand where you're coming from
@@adryannthedefender701 Ahm nope.
Sup, my house has Ottoman Empire in it
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teacher: today we are going to italy
girls: omg such a romantic country!
boys: LEGIO AETERNA AETERNA VICTRIX!
Haha, boys so quirky..
Roman tic
@nathan smith bruh
According to my Google translate app, they're chanting, "The Eternal Winner." Is that right?
@@Heraldo_Del_Mar The Legion victorious victorious forever.
I loved this scene, too. I am sure some people thought watching the movie, "Really, they are singing?" I have read though that Roman soldiers did often sing on the march, to pass time I guess. They would also sing entering and leaving friendly towns sometimes; although some of the words may not have been so virtuous.
JayDene Kail roman soldiers would often sing to help keep pace during the march, they also did this in the navy to help the rowers, except during naval engagements in which case they used the drums
They sang while marching but in battle they were completely silent. It freaked barbarian armies out, seeing a bunch of people move in a cohesive manner while being so silent... They must have looked like androids
Nirvana, That makes sense to me,... would probably also pass the time, too.
They help keep pace, as well as motivation and morale. Like modern cadences, the chant would sometimes be unique to the unit, likely citing where the legion has been and victories they had won and poking fun at the enemy. Most chants, however, would include something along the lines of "I'm far from my woman" or "One man, many steps", some would be quite lewd and others would be funny which do, in fact, help pass time.
It's pretty interesting stuff.
I mean we do it now, lots of Armies had marching Cadences I'm sure they weren't the first either. We all build on the success of those who come before us they probably got it from the Spartans or the Macedonians or something.
Tonight in Wembley, Sopra terra Britannorum Volat Aquila Legionum 🇮🇹
By ancient standards Rome was extremely reasonable. Low taxes and access to the world's greatest trade network protected by the greatest army in history.
Persia was as well. When Alexander campainged to free the Helenic citites under persian rule, they literally told him to piss off that they are doing just fine. Low taxes, local Greek governments... After 2 months of marching through Turkey and not "liberating" a single city, he got very desperate. Check it our. Really interesting.
Yeah, capitalism works great as long as you have cheap labour...
>low taxes
Hell no, depending the emperor, yes it was market, but not free, also there was "workers rights" and every roman or anyone that lived in the Roman Empire was free unless the war slaves, also Gaius give bread to every one in Rome
No better friend, no worse enemy
@@petrmiros9908 Not gonna lie, that sounds accurate, Alexander also wanted to be the next Cyrus the Great but he died of Irish syndrom before he could do anything
I'm Italian and this is pretty impressive, they're accent is pretty good! Amazing Roman era, they're more advanced and civilized than many countries now in 2018!
Secondo me le comparse che cantano sono tutte italiane xD
@Bb Szsono italiani,questa scene e' stata girata a Matera.
Fr
You know the sing Latin, not Italian, so shut up,
@@khaleddekar2188 Latin is the father of the Italian language, shut up you ignorant.
This is one of the most intimidating scene of the roman army I've seen yet. The organization, training and how equipped they were. If not for the roman empire, the world would be a MUCH different place.
Too bad the movie suck
One thing always left out in Roman movies is the singing. This movie captured it. Since in the real world these massive number of soldiers always sang and it was the most terrifying sound to a city where the army is approaching.
Oui en effet, tous comme les cingulum des légionnaires ont également été conçus pour émettre de son de cliquetis multiplié par les milliers de soldats en rang serré pour impressionner l'adversaire, ce qui marchait plutôt bien d'ailleurs.
En ce qui concerne le chant, en effet la tradition du chant militaire vient bien de l'armée romaine, en revanche le chant qu'on entend dans ce film n'est pas du tout attesté historiquement, on n'a pas à ce jour retrouve quoi que ce soit qui puisse nous permettre de reconstituer fidèlement un champ militaire, bien qu'on sache qu'il y en aient eu.
Ceci dit, cela reste une reconstitution hypothétique très réussie à mon sens, et je sens au fond de mon âme (de romain) que ce n'est pas si fantasque que cela, cette chanson résonne dans l'écho de l'éternité ;)
and the smell...read accounts of when Romans/auxiliaries were marching, the stench of alcohol leaching out in their sweat could be smelt long distances.
I do remember that smell first hand when our airborne infantry company in the Canal Zone ran PT Monday mornings.
So accurate they even use Rottweilers as military dogs. This is great
AnthonyRizzuti ✊🏼
They had a type of mastiff that looked like a Rottweiler.
Yeah, that's where the modern breed of Rottweiler came from
Wouldnt have hurt to use more Lorica Hamatas. The Segmentata was quite fresh at this time and seeing Roman soldiers had to provide their own armor, it's hardly accurate to have a thousand legionaires all in Segmentata, all in red and all exactly a like.
Besides. Legion X Fretensis was placed in Acre from around 6 BC till 50 AD. No record exists of them being stationed in Jerusalem in 26-36 AD.
Legions after the Marian reforms were equipped by the state, this film is set after the Marian reforms.
Hollywood Romans: Sing in Latin, but speak in English.
Yeah man they should all speak in Latin and greek throughout the whole movie so that the audience enjoys the film more.
DERP
as are goats and sheep constantly arent they?
Here is a picture of the empire in the year 117 AD, under the rule of emperor Trajan: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire#/media/File:Roman_Empire_Trajan_117AD.png
The land where modern day Turkey lies was under roman control in the times of the late republic already:
In the 2nd century BC, following the era of Alexander the Great, Anatolia was a land of several independent kingdoms. Some of them had direct dealings with the Roman republic, and relations were not always good.
Roman legions poured into Anatolia to do battle with King Antiochus III of Seleucia. They defeated him at Magnesia (Manisa, near Izmir) in 190 BC, and left the government of Anatolia in the hands of the now-powerful kings of Pergamum (or Pergamon, modern Bergama).
The last king of Pergamum’s royal line died in 133 BC without an heir, and bequeathed his kingdom to Rome. In 129 BC the Roman republic claimed Anatolia as its own, establishing the province of Asia (or Asia Minor), with its capital at Ephesus.
Ever since Scipio Africanus stomped Antiochus at the battle of Magnesia all those provinces were doomed to become Rome´s bitches, and did indeed.
Poor turks, it's ok guys, just search up the Gokturk khanate and see how turks got fucked by us Chinese.
Teacher: Class we're going to Jerusalem
Girls: Let's go see the temple mount
Boys: 0:16
Okay, this is Epic
Based
*Girls: omg we're going to meet so many cute Israeli boys
@@Shady36
That doesn't exist lmao
Raze the temple mound and build the temple of Jupiter optimus maximus there
what I find interesting is how at the beginning of the scene the shields are hilariously small, but it looks as if they get bigger as the scene progresses
Carl von Clausewitz That's actually part of the point of their design - intimidation perfectly mixed with function.
Joshua Fogg I think they’re implying the shields themselves are different sizes, and they’re right. The shields used early on during the march past the cemetery are not the same as the ones used in the tetsudo. The film made use of preexisting props from other films and shows, which is likely why the size varies from scene to scene - either due to differences in manufacturing or to represent different eras of the Roman army.
@@MasterShake9000could be auxiliary shields instead of legion shields
Roman Legion
IronMat86 In joining the imperial legion you'll be taking an oath binding you to the service of the emperor and thus to every citizen of the empire.
And so?... what's the point? O.o
Djack4060 Deus vult!
IronMat86 💯
my empires most rulery got my hand on my dick and my hands on my lunch
The sound of civilization.
ROMA INVICTA!!!
ETERNA!
VICTRIX!
Peter C roma aeterna
SPQR
I am just glad those Romes are not half naked like 300 Spartans in another US "historic" movie
Funny how Hollywood tries to show the Romans as villains and yet everyone loves them 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s almost like Hollywood is ran by a specific tribe which the romans didn’t like very much (for good reason)
Roman Army caligae (the leather sandals) had several hobnails in each caliga in a form of “treads”. This made it slightly better to grip in the mud and rough terrain. It also made a very distinct sound as large units of soldiers hit those metal hobnails into the street as they marched. Contemporary writers mention this. It’s a shame they didn’t put this into the movie; maybe it would have been too distracting or loud.
With the exception of a Hellenic or civilized Eastern army, that would almost certainly frighten any person who is never seen an organized, massive cohesive army. Too bad the clip cu ts off right as they form testudo and proceed to invade the Hur home, best part of the movie.
Praetor Victix it would frighten a Greek or eastern army too!
I doubt it would frighten the Greeks. Those guys were tough as hell.
Averroes The Commentator....they were not tougher than the Romans.
I agree, with a number of exceptions however (such as Alexander the Great and his army), but they were definitely at least tough enough that they wouldn't be scared of the Romans.
Averroes The Commentator I give appropriate credit to Alexander....but I would take Gaius Julius Caesar and his vaunted Roman Legions or their successors over any Greek General and their Phalanx any day.
Leonidas and his Spartans are about as close to The Romans as The Greeks can get. Remember...on The Book of Macabbees...Israel eventually signs treaties with Republican Rome and Sparta (signified on bronze tablets) that largely kept the Alexandrian Greek Nations at bay.
I wished they came out with this songs of the Roman soldiers singing.
J.J.S Bishop, I wished they did too. Love this scene even though that is not the shield of legio X but don't know what legion it does represent.
JayDene Kail the thunderbolt crest was adopted by the Praetorian Guard and the 14th Gemina :) the crest of the 10th Fretensis was a ship or a bull
Thanks. I knew about the bull for the Xth but not the thunderbolt for Gemina 14th.
Nobody knows how shield of X(X Fretensis.Name is very important since in the Roman often more legions with the same numerals existed.It was from that reasons they started adding names next to numerals to their regiments)legion looked like.It is an error I see on the internet very often-people knowing that legions had symbolic animals but incorrectly supposing that this animal was depicted on every legion shields.In reality we do have evidence for some legions really having its emblematic animal depicted on its shields but we have even much more evidence that majority of Legions did not use their emblematic animal on shields at all.Also,what people often tend to ignore,is the fact that shield emblems were changing with time and were not still the same during those centuries.If we would believe to Vegetius moreover each cohort in a single legion had its own shield design.Few real Roman and not Hollywood marching songs are known by the way.
Is this a song I can get by it self or did the movie make it up and I won't be able to hear the whole song?
My mom: *wondering what the noise in the bathroom is*
Me, a celt singing to this:
Imagine how awesome it is to March through a city and sing with you comrades
THE FELLING DUDE!!!
The roman song has been written by the Italian Grand Master Danilo Leo Lazzarini. He based the text on ancient roman documents.
:)
2:24 I wish that arrow would’ve hit Pilate.
Okay let's be real. The sound and look of the roman army marching to another land to conquer, as usual. So awesome. I mean look at that massive organized and well-trained legion. The most badass military force in history, without the Roman Empire, our world would be VERY different.. Not sure if in the good way or bad way... Probably bad considering how many advancements they made in science, technology, agriculture, waste management, philosophy, politics, morals, and community, this feels like the sound and sight of approaching civilization and progression
👍Nice and true synthesis.
Then thank Alexander the great for dying young, or otherwise who knows....
also the language we use now writing this comment is from the Romans themselves
@@erichvondonitz5325 touch grass, you think they wrote that too?
I would pass. But whats done is done
The movie is about jewish guy who was arrested unfairly, about his long journey and redemption and still Romans marching in Jerusalem is the most viewed scene. BASED
The Romans are always the good guys. The sound of civilization they bring into these barbarian lands.
1:43 gives chills every time
Il nostro Impero🇮🇹🇮🇹❤️🔥
Teacher: We're going to Jerusalem
Girls: Ugh, how boring
*Boys:*
”How often do you think about Rome”
Girl, i’m a hired swedish solder. We literally think and talk about Rome every time we work with logistics.
0:11 Gauls, Germans, and Britons in 58 BCE: why do I hear boss music?!
Then why do we speak now in Anglo Saxon, a Germanic language and not in a Romance language?
Because the Germanics made the Romans their bitch in the end.
@@justabloke1806
Not only you are wrong, you are STUPlD
Legio! Aeterna! Victrix!
It may not be historically accurate, but it still gives me chills.
Honestly i would watch a whole movie of those guys walking and singing in random towns
As Italian, i can proudly say ROMAM ET IMPERIUM SEMPER FIDELIS! ROMA ETERNA!
Well today Jews got their kingdom back and kept their religion and history.
They deserve respect
2nd temple judaism is very different to rabbinical judaism. The samaritans are more similar to ye olde jewish religion.
@@evgenyugortsev1172 indeed. Let's build a new legion!
ROMA LVX MVNDI
@@evgenyugortsev1172 no, they are killing Palestina and cry when someone make the Roman salute, they don't deserve it
Ave to Roma!
Thomas' Imperial Productions “Ave ad Romam!”
AVE ROMA!
Basically italia
@@valentino3186 nop
True to Caesar
"proud romans all"
Nice little refrence
The eyes of the Senate and all Rome are watching. They should be proud that we are their defenders.
"Romans, ready for duty!"
"Rome is mother to us all"
Jupiter, give us strength!
teacher: we are going to Jerusalem
girls: agh isn't that like a war zone or something?
boys:
The nice thing is that Even if they are singing, you can actually easily understand what they sing. That latin pronunciation is the best I have ever seen in a Hollywood movie.
From One Empire To Another
May Your March Put Fear In To The Enemy Just Like How We Once Have
this is still one of the coolest things I've ever seen
Kind of reminds me of the "I Hear the Choppers Coming" marching cadence
Alan Panaligan That's exactly where it's from though I'm not sure how legitimate it is but I remember that cadence from my time at Sand Hill Ft Benning, GA
They're flying overhead.
You Mean Airborne Ranger..It does sound similar..
That's exactly what I was thinking too...I parallels are often drawn between the Roman and American Army in films, whether its an insult or a complement is debatable.
I thought I heard it too.
Reminded me of the: "Aiiiiiiiirbooooooooooooorne Raaaaaaaaaaaangers Leeeeeeead the waaaaay!"
Love the Syrian archers with their scale armor.
Best archers in Rome 2 too
Auxilia Sagittarii
Best archers were Cretan
@@pergys6991 You can't forget the Cretan archers. They were possibly the best in the empire.
@@sebastianolmsted2867 i think the game not actual rome
I love the 1959 Ben Hur, but hearing them chant as they march into Jerusalem in the remake gives me chills each time
Proud German, loyal to the eternal city.
She brought civilisation to my people (and we definitely didn't just steal it from them.)
ROMA INVICTA!!
Greetings from Rome, Son.
Thank You for Your Loyalty Soldier.
S.P.Q.R.
@@anthonytv1952 S.P.Q.R!
AVE! What do you think about Arminius?
The Romans honestly make pretty terrible antagonists, because the audience always ends up rooting for them instead.
Lo mejor que dejo el remake sin duda
Concuerdo esa escena es brutal
Definitely my favorite scene of that otherwise poor movie. If someday, somebody finds that song (and, why not, more like those), don't hesitate to send them to me. In the meantime, strength and honor !
The song is called Roma, Aeterna, Victrix
You can find it on RUclips with lyrics
This makes me want to rebuild roman glory (Im portuguese, Lusitano and forever in service for the Roman Empire)
Roman > Vikings
Fuck vikings. ROMA INVICTA!
Satyr hahaha viking would walk down big jars & rather sounds like howling than singing 🐂🍺🍺😀😀
Vikings would gradually discover Roman culture much later, and go "damn this is some good shit."
You guys are pansies grow some decency.
SatyrWongraven if only discipline is the aspect on which it is judged
What is amazing is the distance these legions marched with discipline.
Glorious Rome, we salute you!!! You who civilized a big part of the barbarian world!! You who forbad the word "surrender" when the flower of your army was massacred by Hannibal in Canae!!! You who recovered your city in 390 BC after it had been conquered by the Gauls!! You, who defeated the tall and terrible Cimbri and Teutones, a Viking race!!!! You, who avenged in a terrible way the 3 legions lost under Varus to the Germans, by re-crossing the Rhine and kicking their asses!!! You, who civilized even your conquerors, the ones who made you fall!!!! Oh glorious Rome, we, the civilized World, salute you!!!!
Yes! Bless u brother and the citizens of Roma!
Lol even after the Roman’s got they still ran from Germany with their tail between their legs
damn a roman fanboy
@@jamborginiii1732It never happened boy if not in German Romantic imagination. Learn history. Germanicus almost conquered the whole land, Tiberius was jealous of his success and paranoid and therefore he ordered the legions to retreat and consolidated the "limes" in Southern Germany, who was fully romanized.
And how am I supposed to see them as villains if you give them such a fucking cool entrance 😭😭😭😭
"How is this tiny shield going to protect us?!"
that's what I thought lmao
P.E gym class
Girls:OMG ITS SO HOT IM SWEATING CAN WE GO
The boys: 0:20
Mechanized Fruit nice lol
*Netflix salivating in the background*
I've been wanting to place a statue of myself in their big temple. How do you think these one god having savages will like it? :)
Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus Germanicus you have the vicious backing of your legions either way...
Probably not very much...
DonMrLenny Lol, but you didn't...
MrAlepedroza SILENCE ,how dare you underestimate the might of the chosen people,you will be cursed by the ten plagues of egypt and we will even give you an extra one bonus because you are such a good antisemite ;) the worst of them all :an infinite mortgage with high interests rates that you will have to worship your bank god for mercy and make sacrifice to your lawyer god
Bruno Luiz Pereira lolol at least old jupiter is in rest,he was too old anyway and you will get over it you got extra 9999 gods to go
I would imagine in real life singing like this in the desert, their mouths would be dry as kindling. But a great idea of the singing power of a Roman legion.
what a magnificent force.
Imagínense vivir en la antigüedad y ver como el ejército romano se moviliza en tus tierra. Se me pone la piel de gallina, qué asombroso.
Ancient roman legions sound marching would put so much respect, imagine thousands of feet marching + the sound of metal armor and songs like this... Amazing sight
Latin Americans are also inheritors of the legacy of ancient Rome.
🇲🇽 🇧🇷 🇦🇷 🇨🇴 🇨🇱 🇨🇺 🇨🇷
🇪🇨 🇬🇹 🇭🇳 🇳🇮 🇵🇦 🇵🇪 🇵🇷
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Our legal system is Roman law, our languages, the Romance languages (Spanish, Portuguese, French) are an evolved Latin, in addition to the fact that most of us are Catholic Christians of the Roman rite.
Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽
Romans marching is just beautiful
Gives me the chills everytime i watch this..
Wow, this is badass. Makes me proud to be European!
Emperor Golfin Ok its obvious youre trolling but if you meant me I can assure you that Nazis most certainly werent pro-white but rather pro-aryan, two complete different things.
@Emperor Golfin: so now we´re at 11 millions already? :D i thought it was six. so ridiculous.
DarkNation most of the europeans were conquered by Rome which "romanized" them
600 trillion never forget
The legionaries were roman (therefore technically European) but the auxiliaries probably weren't. Romans were never archers. Wouldn't most people consider romans to be more Mediterranean than European? Many emperors were born outside of Europe.
I feel obliged to ask this because I know I will find fellow Ancient Rome fans. Why is the legion using this type of shield? it seems smaller than classic Testudo. Great scene, the music, the drums and the singing make it feels intimidating.
Firstly, the name of the shield was the scutum; just a bit of naming trivia for you. :) Secondly, the scutum is smaller here because reasons. It's probably more of an aesthetic choice, than it is anything else, mainly to show the Roman armor off more than the shields. We've seen plenty of the Marian scutum in other works (I personally disagree, but that's probably what it is), so they decided to show us post-Marian armor.
I know it is called Scutum :) but I used the word shield to make it easier to people to understand the question if they ignore the name. I've seen this kind of "scutum" before but I don't think its very accurate and not very practical for the Roman formations, that makes me cringe a little bit.
I thought you were calling it a testudo, even though that's the formation. But yeah, it's kind of cringy.
yeah was my bad, I think I was trying to say that that Scutum but I mixed that up.
@ Fungihair
I believe the armor in this movie was a compilation of armor used in previous productions. For example, some of the soldiers wear helmets and segmented armor from "The Bible" series that premiered on TV a few years ago. Second, there are actuall2 two kinds of shields in use here.
The first type we see is smaller (:25) and looks exactly like the shields used in the old, classic Roman epics like "The Fall of the Roman Empire" and the TV miniseries "Masada" from the 1960's-70's era. Search for clips from those films and you'll spot those shields.
The second shields, if you look closely, are at :52-53 seconds. There are larger and have a different motif (less arrows, smaller wings, and no flat iron rim) and were also used the the movie "The Eagle" with Channing Tatum.
If you watch enough of these movies, you'll start to recognize things you've seen before. Generally speaking, most Roman films scrounge around warehouses in the area where filming is taking place and find costumes leftover from other projects. Sometimes, the same production company already owns costumes from a previous film and reuses them. To this day, the only film that has ever really depicted the Roman Scutum accurately was "Gladiator." Those shields in the Germania scene were made for the film and were plywood (not metal, as seen here) and were authentically rimmed in brass and painted.
Is that Euron Greyjoy?
Yes
that's badasd!
*'TESTUDO! TESTUDO!'*
Man shouting nonsense
*'TESTUDO!!!'*
Me trying to find a restrooms on a trip to Italy when its nead to be shit badly..
Testudo ..testudddoooo....
"How did you take Jerusalem?"
"We walked in".
Think about this daily.
legiune, etern, victorios
I love the little things like the guy next to the Aquilifier instantly jumping to take the Eagle Standard so that it wouldn't fall to the ground or how the archers are All Auxilary in Lorica Squamata.
A totally forgettable movie with miscast actors but the Roman legion marching scene is memorable. The cadence chant "Legio - Aeterna - Aeterna - Victrixis" is great even if it was created for the movie and there is no historical evidence to support it.
1:20
"What is that?"
"BATTLE FORMATIONS"
0:17
Me: gets sick
My white blood cells:
Kocham ten fragment. Najlepsze przedstawienie rzymskiego legionu.
Be honest guys...
We all hated that Jewish boi NOT the Romans.
probably a Halfbreed from samaria as well!😁
long live Rome ...Glory of Rome
Rome was the best thing ever to happen to the Middle East.
Rome was barely even in the mideast. The best thing to happen to the region was Persia.
The Middle east is the best thing that happen to both Greece and Rome. They took tons of their civilization from the Middle East cultures like Persia, Babylon, Assyria, Egypt, etc. Without those Middle eastern cultures, both geeeks and romans would have stayed similarly in a level of culture similar to the kelts or germanics.
Spess Sigiswulf thanks for commenting this for me
Closely followed by American "Democracy"
@Julio Argentino Roca For a short time, and the middle East is larger than just Syria and Iraq (and Kuwait)
0:59 "Look at them ! Cheering for Greyjoy!"
God can you just imagine that. The sight of a legion marching, that must have been utterly horrifying
0:22 love that shout after the Aeterna