SAR Red Devil and Class 25 Condenser 1986.

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • Rather too much hand held camera and excessive wind noise, but hey ho, it's amateur video!
    A few clips recorded on the Kimberley - De Aar main line in South Africa of two of the most interesting steam locos then servicable, beginning with the re-built class 26, the Red Devil ... in erm ... blue! The loco, hammering along, sports a decorative headboard but I regret I don't know for what, maybe the Trans Karoo Express. Soon after the sole operable Class 25 'Condenser' appears on the stopping service so a chase began to several other locations. At the close we see the blue 'Red Devil' working a fast fitted freight.

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  • @Adventurescot
    @Adventurescot 12 лет назад +28

    Great stuff, thanks for posting. I know both these locos extremely well having been a fireman in Kimberley for years. i was the very last fireman to work the Condenser in 1992. She has never worked since, very sad.
    Thanks again

  • @drawingboard82
    @drawingboard82 7 лет назад +40

    tremendous. I love the way on the condenser it doesn't "chuff". You can clearly hear the steam turbine driven draft fan in the smoke box whistling like a giant turbo.

    • @samanli-tw3id
      @samanli-tw3id 6 лет назад +1

      drawingboard82 It does chuff but it's muffled.

    • @Jo52Da
      @Jo52Da 5 лет назад +2

      @@samanli-tw3id Chuffing but not up the chimney but back to the condenser.

    • @Jo52Da
      @Jo52Da 5 лет назад +5

      I think the turbine sound comes from the five turbine fans on the condenser.

    • @miriamlana833
      @miriamlana833 Год назад +2

      Howling like a jet airplane instead of chuffing like a steam train.😃

    • @tomankt
      @tomankt Год назад

      @@miriamlana833 Like a diesel locomotive... Especially when starting a train

  • @UFEZELA
    @UFEZELA 7 лет назад +18

    Magnificent footage of two outstanding and unique locos - let's face it - South Africa led the railway world with it's huge variety of classes and at the time our railways were also the arteries that kept our financial lifelines at a peak. Wish it were possible to return to those great days...

    • @Isochest
      @Isochest 7 лет назад +3

      South Africa is a land of plenty for all. Without discrimination. Mining interests have sought to tribally or racially divide people but all South Africans are entitled to their land and its resources.

  • @normansilver905
    @normansilver905 5 лет назад +7

    The Condenser concept truly worked well. I often wonder why the US railroads never gave it a try in the arid US regions. I still marvel at just how well the SAR steam fleet performed and was maintained. Thank you for this sharing this video. Love the content and how it was filmed.

    • @Jo52Da
      @Jo52Da 5 лет назад +1

      It did work well but I think the maintenance on these locos were quite high especially on the smoke box fan.

    • @phantomsoldier497
      @phantomsoldier497 Год назад

      @@Jo52Da maintenance is actually lower on this trains because condensing water removes the corrosion and scaling problems but it's not worth the cost of the system.
      Steam trains were very cheap to run thanks to low price of coal.
      If you have to pay high upfront costs, diesel is much better

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B 11 месяцев назад

      Perhaps the nearest thing the U.S. railroads used to a "condenser locomotive" was the Pennsylvania Railroad's, single S2 steam turbine, locomotive #6200.

  • @Huttworker
    @Huttworker 11 лет назад +8

    So, thats a 25C in action, I'm impressed. Quiet and no fuss when going about its business. The condenser seem to loom larger and would swallow the locomotive.

  • @foreversteam
    @foreversteam 12 лет назад +11

    I love this video! I think it is an outstanding piece of footage - Your hands were pretty steady.
    I prefer my steam videos with minimal editing anyway - there is a sense of realism having footage that has not been done up with floating menus etc.as it sometimes can distract from the content.

  • @samanli-tw3id
    @samanli-tw3id 6 лет назад +8

    2:13 Think you see a steam locomotive , but hear a jet aircraft!

  • @SantaFe5811
    @SantaFe5811 9 месяцев назад +1

    Terrific video all around. Though, the scene at 2:25 is absolutely remarkable

  • @struck2soon
    @struck2soon 12 лет назад +6

    Great soundtrack from the car, sounds like you were pacing a Boeing 747!

  • @lancewalton4807
    @lancewalton4807 3 месяца назад

    JUST LOVE THAT STEAM.

  • @devotions9192
    @devotions9192 3 года назад

    Beautiful!
    Brings back memories of "Mindae Louis..."

  • @trevormaxwell8134
    @trevormaxwell8134 3 месяца назад +1

    Very nice and impressive 😅😊

  • @Sowerbylads
    @Sowerbylads 11 лет назад +1

    Superb video, thanks for sharing. Brings back happy memories of the 1991 steam festival. 3511 was probably the most unusual loco anywhere in the world.......

    • @brucewilliams8714
      @brucewilliams8714 5 лет назад

      I, too, have happy memories of the 1991 festival. Sitting on the platform edge at Modder River watching the evening parade of steam. Then, in the following days, chasing them up and down. Ah, great days.

  • @XMarkxyz
    @XMarkxyz 10 месяцев назад +2

    It is truly a shame that no condensing engine hs been mantained in working order, at least one would deserve a good restoration for how rare they are

  • @G0IMB
    @G0IMB 6 лет назад +8

    Efficient steam traction at its best. What Western Europe missed out on!

    • @omepeet2006
      @omepeet2006 6 лет назад

      Yep, they tried to be "modern".

    • @samanli-tw3id
      @samanli-tw3id 5 лет назад

      G0IMB Western Europe tried all-steam turbine locomotives but they didn't prove efficient.

  • @Isochest
    @Isochest 7 лет назад +1

    Lovely Express steam action.

  • @44ssspoptop
    @44ssspoptop 3 месяца назад

    I love steam trains

  • @mwrify
    @mwrify Год назад

    love this, always been in awe of these condenser loco's, sounds like a jet plane when running at speed. Its a shame that they converted most of them to a conventional locomotive.

  • @stephensmith799
    @stephensmith799 4 года назад

    Fascinating locomotives!

  • @oliverblatchford2780
    @oliverblatchford2780 8 лет назад +1

    Brilliant, thanks!

  • @vasilekasapul
    @vasilekasapul 11 лет назад +2

    Awesome footage!BIG LIKE!

  • @stoffelsmith2921
    @stoffelsmith2921 Год назад +1

    Het as kind baie op hulle gery tussen watervalboven en watervalonder was my lift om te gaan swem het by die waterval

  • @volodymyrrhapon5666
    @volodymyrrhapon5666 5 лет назад +1

    This steam is very interesting.
    Without ,,puf puf" .

  • @Gostek676
    @Gostek676 3 года назад

    Piekna Historia! Pozdrawiam

  • @1430-s2v
    @1430-s2v 6 лет назад

    where are the days wow

  • @Intekom12438
    @Intekom12438 3 года назад

    Wow, wow, wow !!!

  • @dfwjac
    @dfwjac 6 лет назад

    Sounds like a tea kettle at the beginning!

  • @hosdo
    @hosdo 11 лет назад +1

    FFS it sounds like an electric! Awesome footage!

    • @samanli-tw3id
      @samanli-tw3id 5 лет назад +1

      Lorenzo Pantani More like a jet aeroplane.

  • @trajan231
    @trajan231 8 лет назад

    was this before or after the 1986 Cape Venturer steam excursion? I remember hearing that was why the Red Devil was painted blue.

  • @janmalan8204
    @janmalan8204 7 лет назад +1

    n wonderlike stoomreus mors geen stoom nie word na agter geneem verkoel die stoom sit om in water en word weer gebruik seker een van mees gevorderste stoom reus wat daar was pragtig manne ek verlang weer terug na my jare as jong man

    • @omepeet2006
      @omepeet2006 6 лет назад +1

      And you know what Jan, the Germans used the same kind if condensers (on 2-10-0 goods engines) in the early 1940s, for the same reason: extended range. Can't help wondering what Red Devil would have been like with a condensing tender...

  • @IoanBojan
    @IoanBojan 10 лет назад +1

    Which presure is in its boiler?

    • @Tyconniendu59
      @Tyconniendu59 10 лет назад

      15,5 bar for a Class 25 and Red Devil too

  • @sydneymartin6941
    @sydneymartin6941 Год назад

    Damn Maar die lokomotief kan hardloop So mooi Enige motor sal sy wiele moet optel om by te bly Baie mooi

  • @sirgresley6007
    @sirgresley6007 10 лет назад

    how many coaches was the class 25 pulling

  • @Tyconniendu59
    @Tyconniendu59 11 лет назад

    Great video !
    Was "red devil" already de-modernized at this time ?

  • @jacobditmars8414
    @jacobditmars8414 3 года назад

    Personally, I wonder what all it would have changed if one of the 25s got modernized like 3450. Probably would have eliminated their problem of damaging their fans with particles of unbernt fuel, but what else?

  • @Nathan93Baker
    @Nathan93Baker 5 лет назад

    Never knew we had turbine locos. Were all class 25 'condensers'?

    • @Jo52Da
      @Jo52Da 5 лет назад +2

      Not turbine locos but the smoke box had a turbine fan and the condenser 5 steam driven turbine fans for cooling the steam exiting the pistons. Otherwise normal steam locos.
      Not all 25's were condensers, we had 25NC's (non condensers) and later on the Condensers were changed to non condensers recognisable by the round top of the water tank. The were called "Worshonde" because of the round tops of the tank.

    • @brucewilliams8714
      @brucewilliams8714 5 лет назад

      @@Jo52Da I saw many of them but didn't know their 'sausage dog' nickname! Very apt.

  • @stoffelsmith2921
    @stoffelsmith2921 Год назад +1

    Bly maar mooi wens hulle kan trug kom

  • @АлександрЛапченко-н4е

    Steam roller

  • @thejdmguru621
    @thejdmguru621 11 месяцев назад

    Sounds like a diesel 🤣

  • @halumi2002
    @halumi2002 Год назад

    日本と全然違う。