You can’t trust anyone when it comes to money. I trusted my own brother who ended up screwing me over financially. Never in a million years did I think that would ever happen
Boxing is riddled with this sort of financial stuff worldwide. Boxing is such a conceited and corrupt sport from the managers to judges and promoters. Rarely now do the best fight the best, especially in their prime and it’s all down to money. Carl realised that the people supposedly looking after his best interests were lining their own pockets with money that was his. Carl Frampton was a world Champion and highly respected boxer whos class and attitude is a shining example to others.
In the recent Hatton documentary his own Dad put millions into another account that Ricky knew nothing about, his Dad said it was for his son but it doesn't quite add up when you take a huge amount of money from a grown man and put it into a secret account without his permission.
@Tom-v7l5i his problems started after his career, this was during his career when he hadn't started his coke habit yet. You can't take someone's money that they earned and without their knowledge put it in a secret bank account, that is stealing. His dad had no answer for it and it only came to light when Ricky's lawyer discovered it had been done. His dad was silent about it.
It makes it worse that Barry was screwed over himself by managers so to do it to one of his fighters is just low. Lost all respect for Barry and family after hearing what happened.
Trust and money are like oil and water, never mix! Same thing with Taylor. Boxing wise, a dream team so successful such a shame Barry's business practices weren't as transparent
Carl, hold ur head up high. Theft is a nasty crime to happen anyone. To happen to a boxer is worse. He has put his life on the line for his income, and mcguigan stole money from Carl.
If this is indeed true I’m very disappointed to hear it about Barry McGuigan. He was very popular when I was growing up in the 80’s etc. Very well respected.
It's wrong of the interviewer to say "don't you think this taught you and other fighters to have a better understanding of business" - the role of a manager is to look after their fighter - so the fighter can focus on the business of fighting and to make their money that they'll need after they retire.
@@FramptonBoxingyou sold your soul for the money and ran to the drug dealers and now you're trying to discredit a hard working family while bootlickimg the Kinahans, the most disgusting family in every way possible.
The outcome of the court case speaks volumes about who was in the wrong. There was financial evidence that legally proved Carl was getting swindled and McGuigan made a financial settlement over it.
Sounds like he was stitched up, as honest and respectful as the McGuigans might have been, most money men are shrewd operators when it comes to contracts no doubt, and the wee men from Northern Ireland are never done being played by Sharks due to our loyalty, morale, respect and honesty....
Many/maybe most fighters say they fight the next fight without getting paid their last. Some wait years for pay from a particular fight. There must be valid reasons. Promoter A is waiting for promoter B to pay. Gate receipts and TV money take months to calculate and roll in. Disputes over percentages
You dont get this with eddie hearn i think eddie enjoys the job a little bit more than he does the money you can see the twinkle in his eye and he always answers the question thats asked
From what I've been led to believe , money is deducted without anyone's knowledge , costs are cut where they should'nt be and he expects every single penny he has put into you back , doesn't actually tell the fighter this though .
Shame this happened as Carl was nowhere near the same fighter when he stopped being trained by Shane. Cant blame him though as its a short career and you neec to earn as much as you can
Carl admits Barry made him,too bad Barry wasn't a traitor n trained his own people like native blooded Irish instead of English blooded ones like Framptons who are English lowlanders who were given land to in northern Ireland by the queen of England herself.....I'm so glad karma hit Barry😂😂😂😂😂 that's for being a traitor,his knowledge could of made his own kind who were doing it big even bigger n I know his coaching could of been vital for a mick Conlan, Ryan Burnett, andy Lee,jono Carroll, Dennis Hogan,bernard dunne, Irish gypo traveller Tyson fury from Manchester wit irish born parents, Callum Walsh, mckenna brothers,jason quigley,tj doheny just to name a few.........if katie Taylor wasn't a quarter English blooded she wouldn't of gotten the treatment she gets....if katie taylor was katie O'Connor with the same skill set ,she wouldn't of gotten eddie hearn or tv contracts or any decisions.....tyson fury dad was born in Galway n moms from Antrim,his parents moved to England as children but if irish blooded Tyson fury the Irish gypo traveller didn't acknowledge his British- ness n he wasn't backed by promoter frank warren n if tyson fury was born in galway like john fury n if he was backed n promoted by a irish promoter with the same exact skills one million percent Irish gypo traveller Tyson Fury would absolutely never of gotten the decision in ukraine vs Klitschko and one million percent would never be a world champion n absolutely wouldn't of gotten a draw versus wilder😂😂😂 even if Fury had the same skill set😂😂😂😂 there's thousands of real Irish blooded native boxers past/present tougher n better than fury,Taylor,etc but never get their opportunity like them or absolutely never get absolutely no fair decisions....like wen Hogan dominated recently 2 or 3 times for world title fights or wen Mathew Macklin said he loves his Irish blood n Brits thought he was denouncing his British- ness n wen he absolutely dominated felix sturm n never got a decision a blind man could of scored, macklin was promoted by kinahan mtk instead if English promoter,if macklin was promoted by hearn or warren one million percent he would of gotten the decision, its joke 😂😂😂😂i could nane thousands of instances real Irish blooded native fighters clearly won n never got decision,once even wen they ko opponents a couple decisions overturned n called no descion😂😂😂
Terrible that Barry would let this happen to a boxer under his supervision, mostly because he ended up in court with "Thank you very much Mr Eastwood" over money. After every fight we heard "Thank you very much Mr Eastwood" ad naseum. Bring money into it and the pair ended up in court fighting over money. Seems like Barry learnt well from Mr Eastwood. Where money is involved, WHY is a stupid question Simon. What I do know is Carl is a decent bloke.
mcguigan was a hero to many in the early 80s then he changed,no idea what brought that on being from clones and he became a west brit,I believe carl frampton in this case 100%
I'd been boxing from 7 years old. Represented Ireland on over 60 occasions. Was a 2 weight national senior champ. Won an EU Silver medal and was ranked as the No1 feather weight in the UK when I turned pro. I'd never deny that Barry helped get me lots of media attention, especially in NI, but are you suggesting I should be happy with what was going on?
So Barry does everything to help Carl to get to the level he got to but It means that it gives him the right to be able to steal from him in return. In my world that makes it worse because everything that he done for him then had an agenda behind it. Barry's silence is deafening
Mtk global offered Fighters great deals you expect the Fighters to look into everyone's background if I was buying meat for my butcher shop and someone offers to legitimately sell me the meat at 75% the standard price and then it turned out the guy was a drugs king pin how's that morally affected me how was I to know their business I'm not the police I'm owning a butcher shop and Frampton is not the police he's a professional boxer
“Look into everyone’s background “ Are you trying to insinuate he was unaware of the kinahans Lol please, fair enough say he was entitled to get paid it’s a tough sport but don’t try play misdirection man you look like a clown
Regarding the out-of-court settlement, Mr Frampton said: "It was the right thing to do. "The agreement was right for me to settle on and I was happy with the terms that were agreed." The Belfast boxer was asked if that effectively meant that he won. He replied: "I can't say that, no, but I can say I'm very, very happy with the terms of the settlement."
Nobody is allowed to say they won. That's the rules of the settlement. What I can say is that I am extremely happy with the settlement. Extremely happy👍
Thing is, McGuigan comes from an era when that was happening all the time, even to Barry. But shame on him for it. I remember working the security with Gardener and Hayde Promotions back in the early '90's at the Star leisure centre, Cardiff. Hyde v Jacobs for British heavyweight title. My mate refused McGuigan entry because he didn't have his pass and also he didn't recognise him. Barry was not too impressed, and said, Don't you know who I am?? My mate replied, I don't give a fk who you are, you're not coming in this way without your fkn pass 🤣🤣
simon jordan some of the questions were banal unless he was an accountant as well as a boxer and was there a sale on in the charity clothing shop near you
I just think he was robbed and the thing that shocked me about that is that Barry was a fighter and knew what it was like to be scammed. It’s also an eye opener in the fact that Hearn never ever has he been accused of not paying or paying less than contractually obligated and that’s a shocking thing in the sport of boxing. Also why is Simon asking the victim what the motives of the criminals were!?!?
I think the biggest issue is Carl was managed trained and promoted by them So all 3 needed paying So I guess it felt like he was giving them all his money ,
Boxing is a dirty business were money is involved promoters are like snake oil salesmen but I expected better off Barry but is it a case Barry turned into Eastwood.!
No disrespect Carl , but if you had your own accountant he should have told you how much vat you owed not Barry, I don’t agree With the late payments. But you need to surround yourself with better people and always get a second opinion even if you do trust them!!
Carl has always come across well.
He admits if Barry never trained him he'd be a nobody
I thought you said Will there for a second 😮
You can’t trust anyone when it comes to money. I trusted my own brother who ended up screwing me over financially. Never in a million years did I think that would ever happen
So true, people you think you can trust will prove the opposite
You can’t trust anyone really.
“The one thing about money Bud, it makes you do things you don’t wanna do.” Lou Mannheim
Money is the devil. We need it but i hate it.
Sounds like a you problem
Boxing is riddled with this sort of financial stuff worldwide. Boxing is such a conceited and corrupt sport from the managers to judges and promoters. Rarely now do the best fight the best, especially in their prime and it’s all down to money. Carl realised that the people supposedly looking after his best interests were lining their own pockets with money that was his. Carl Frampton was a world Champion and highly respected boxer whos class and attitude is a shining example to others.
Capitalism is a conceited and corrupt system
In the recent Hatton documentary his own Dad put millions into another account that Ricky knew nothing about, his Dad said it was for his son but it doesn't quite add up when you take a huge amount of money from a grown man and put it into a secret account without his permission.
His son had a drink and drug problem so he secretly hid money incase he blew every penny so your wrong
@Tom-v7l5i his problems started after his career, this was during his career when he hadn't started his coke habit yet. You can't take someone's money that they earned and without their knowledge put it in a secret bank account, that is stealing. His dad had no answer for it and it only came to light when Ricky's lawyer discovered it had been done. His dad was silent about it.
If he didn’t spend it
Simon Jordan always forgets who people want to listen to in interviews.
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Absolute balloon Jordan.
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He never shuts up
Yet your all watching and listening to him😂😂
It makes it worse that Barry was screwed over himself by managers so to do it to one of his fighters is just low. Lost all respect for Barry and family after hearing what happened.
Yeah he’s a scumbag, Simon then trying to blame the person who was robbed instead of the thief
@@rolandtomassi3486Simon is asking questions and exploring what happened. That is how you reach the truth.
Jordan a Charlatan himself.
Sometimes, going through a bad experience makes a decent person cynical and they think, "Everybody else does it, so I might as well join them."
I think you’ve all just heard one side of the story
People show their true colours when it comes to money and not a lot of people have integrity 💯
Interesting comment I would like to talk to you more on the subject if you could send me your bank details I could pay you for your time?
Yep they invent podcasts and create online identities to support their stories. 😂😂😂😂😂
Couldn’t agree more with that
Trust and money are like oil and water, never mix!
Same thing with Taylor. Boxing wise, a dream team so successful such a shame Barry's business practices weren't as transparent
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Simon Jordan, just because u trust someone, doesn't mean they should steal from you.
There is no honour among bagheads.
Frampton is à good guy ,i enjoy his commentary on fights good to see he is earning after a hard career as a top fighter
Eddie Hearn gets a raw deal from the public....but iv never heard a bad word about him when it comes to money with his fighters
The Maguigans even knock their staff/ trainers on an hourly rate.Absolute wrongun’s
Simon Jordan is starting to look like the old man from Disneys Up 😂
Omg.... I've been thinking he looked like someone for months couldn't put my finger on it... and that exactly who it is😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
Carl, hold ur head up high. Theft is a nasty crime to happen anyone. To happen to a boxer is worse. He has put his life on the line for his income, and mcguigan stole money from Carl.
This is an issue that NO fighter needs when preparing for a fight !
Carl honest straight gentleman. Barry wakes up during the night to see if he’s lost any sleep 😂
Loved Barry as a boxer. Incredible talent. Outside the ring though he’s always came across to me as cagey AF.
Good insight mate, cagey is not to be trusted imo😢
"I was cross examined for 5 days"
"Yes I was a witness for 3 hours so I know exactly what thats like"
Peak level Jordan
Carl has always came across as a genuine guy.
Even family fallout over money.
Respect Carl !
Did Simon mention kinahan links and that fallout?
@@adampeacock7364what's that got to do with the McGuigan's ripping Frampton off
@@adampeacock7364 Whataboutery at its finest
If this is indeed true I’m very disappointed to hear it about Barry McGuigan. He was very popular when I was growing up in the 80’s etc. Very well respected.
The Jackal is a great man, moral and decent, worship the guy’s character, my hero…
What is Simon Jordan wearing ?? It looks like someone dipped him in glue and through him through the window of a charity shop !
LoL, so you don’t like his sweet sweater vest?
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as a man why the fuck do you care
I didn't notice his clothes but I must say this line made me chuckle
Like a model for oxfam fs
Such a shame I like both parties. Hurts to think Barry ripped another boxer off.
Boxing helped get Barry from bankrupt and he went and did this
When was he bankrupt?
Carl's tv work is top drawer
Whether he's culpable or not is not the point! He's trying to explain to Simon Jordan that he felt let down by a former boxer that he trusted!!!!
So Very True 😷 i Honestly Thought i Knew my Family until Money was involved then i Realized i did not Know them at all Peace ✌️ be With You 😷
Life will look after cheats in the end. Disgraceful that barry did this after what happened to him. That's unforgivable.
Yeah? That sounds like mumbo jumbo.
A tale as old as time.
I met Barry and Carl at Peacocks gym. Both said Hi and had a nice little chat. Good guys.
A decent guy would never do that, lets get that straight .loved watching carl fight.
Carl's book is a great read.
Frampton is a true gentleman and Barry has let himself down greed greed
It's wrong of the interviewer to say "don't you think this taught you and other fighters to have a better understanding of business" - the role of a manager is to look after their fighter - so the fighter can focus on the business of fighting and to make their money that they'll need after they retire.
When the work is done, the wages need paying...
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Let the guest talk your questions are too long and it smacks of EGO.
I'm not suggesting Carl is telling untruths. I would like to hear Mcguigans side now too. He has yet to speak a word in his own defence.
Absolutely, there are 2 sides to a story and Barry always came across as a man who genuinely cared about fighters and never a Don King style character
There are two sides to every story. Do you ever wonder why Barry hasn't told his?
@@FramptonBoxingyou sold your soul for the money and ran to the drug dealers and now you're trying to discredit a hard working family while bootlickimg the Kinahans, the most disgusting family in every way possible.
@FramptonBoxing I would say the silence from the McGuigans speaks volumes..... Well Done Carl
The outcome of the court case speaks volumes about who was in the wrong. There was financial evidence that legally proved Carl was getting swindled and McGuigan made a financial settlement over it.
I wish you went more into this it seemed you were trying to protect Barry
Thank you very very much Mr Eastwood 😂
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That song by Father Ted actor 😂
The accusation against Ricky Hatton’s father is the worst in my opinion. If you can’t trust your family when it comes to money, everyone is suspect!
Sounds like he was stitched up, as honest and respectful as the McGuigans might have been, most money men are shrewd operators when it comes to contracts no doubt, and the wee men from Northern Ireland are never done being played by Sharks due to our loyalty, morale, respect and honesty....
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I enjoyed Carl as a fighter and I enjoy him as an analyst. Hope he gets a decent TV gig once TNT loses boxing.
Glad to back with quality guests ,i was so dissappointed when i saw Chisora was on here and stayed away as hes such a damm fool
Quigg is still laughing to this day despite the fractured jaw bone.
Many/maybe most fighters say they fight the next fight without getting paid their last. Some wait years for pay from a particular fight. There must be valid reasons. Promoter A is waiting for promoter B to pay. Gate receipts and TV money take months to calculate and roll in. Disputes over percentages
Absolute bullshit
Simons plimpsoles are hilarious!!
You dont get this with eddie hearn i think eddie enjoys the job a little bit more than he does the money you can see the twinkle in his eye and he always answers the question thats asked
This is a reoccurring theme with the mcguigans, josh Taylor was once with them and now doesn’t have a good word to say about them
wee barry learned a lot from mr eastwood it would seem
@@noellambe5845same could be said about all in boxing everyone has issues
From what I've been led to believe , money is deducted without anyone's knowledge , costs are cut where they should'nt be and he expects every single penny he has put into you back , doesn't actually tell the fighter this though .
Yes, so that must tell you something and possibly pull up some ???.
@@billneath3273 RUclips can you translate
There are lower level fighters who also tell the same story as carl,and josh Taylor.
No there’s not and josh Taylor’s only issues was the kinahan csrtel threw money at him to leave
@@brianfitzpatrick9949you have clearly never listened to an interview with Josh talking about Barry and Shane
@@brianfitzpatrick9949 😂😂😂😂😂 most clueless comment if i have seen 1
whats wrong with the truth ???? every dog on the street knows .....@@antonimaxwell-iw4jx
Why has this been released now?
Interview was done ages ago
When will full episode be up ?
Shame this happened as Carl was nowhere near the same fighter when he stopped being trained by Shane. Cant blame him though as its a short career and you neec to earn as much as you can
Carl admits Barry made him,too bad Barry wasn't a traitor n trained his own people like native blooded Irish instead of English blooded ones like Framptons who are English lowlanders who were given land to in northern Ireland by the queen of England herself.....I'm so glad karma hit Barry😂😂😂😂😂 that's for being a traitor,his knowledge could of made his own kind who were doing it big even bigger n I know his coaching could of been vital for a mick Conlan, Ryan Burnett, andy Lee,jono Carroll, Dennis Hogan,bernard dunne, Irish gypo traveller Tyson fury from Manchester wit irish born parents, Callum Walsh, mckenna brothers,jason quigley,tj doheny just to name a few.........if katie Taylor wasn't a quarter English blooded she wouldn't of gotten the treatment she gets....if katie taylor was katie O'Connor with the same skill set ,she wouldn't of gotten eddie hearn or tv contracts or any decisions.....tyson fury dad was born in Galway n moms from Antrim,his parents moved to England as children but if irish blooded Tyson fury the Irish gypo traveller didn't acknowledge his British- ness n he wasn't backed by promoter frank warren n if tyson fury was born in galway like john fury n if he was backed n promoted by a irish promoter with the same exact skills one million percent Irish gypo traveller Tyson Fury would absolutely never of gotten the decision in ukraine vs Klitschko and one million percent would never be a world champion n absolutely wouldn't of gotten a draw versus wilder😂😂😂 even if Fury had the same skill set😂😂😂😂 there's thousands of real Irish blooded native boxers past/present tougher n better than fury,Taylor,etc but never get their opportunity like them or absolutely never get absolutely no fair decisions....like wen Hogan dominated recently 2 or 3 times for world title fights or wen Mathew Macklin said he loves his Irish blood n Brits thought he was denouncing his British- ness n wen he absolutely dominated felix sturm n never got a decision a blind man could of scored, macklin was promoted by kinahan mtk instead if English promoter,if macklin was promoted by hearn or warren one million percent he would of gotten the decision, its joke 😂😂😂😂i could nane thousands of instances real Irish blooded native fighters clearly won n never got decision,once even wen they ko opponents a couple decisions overturned n called no descion😂😂😂
@@HeatherGarcia-di9seFfs reading this is like getting knocked out.
@@Clusters3rdStrikeArc that's wat I wanted a salooote
@@HeatherGarcia-di9se Go on then ya racist bigot. NaNe ( think you meant name!) the thousands. I'll wait!
Jordan has obviously taken it up the hoop from McGuigan. Quite a few times.
Carl - you would have demolished their barrister in a fight regardless of how big he was.
Terrible that Barry would let this happen to a boxer under his supervision, mostly because he ended up in court with "Thank you very much Mr Eastwood" over money. After every fight we heard "Thank you very much Mr Eastwood" ad naseum. Bring money into it and the pair ended up in court fighting over money. Seems like Barry learnt well from Mr Eastwood. Where money is involved, WHY is a stupid question Simon. What I do know is Carl is a decent bloke.
mcguigan was a hero to many in the early 80s then he changed,no idea what brought that on being from clones and he became a west brit,I believe carl frampton in this case 100%
Josh Taylor was screwed by them as well.
Sadly money and greed is the root of all evil
Carl forgot he was nothing before he met Barry ...fact
well said
I'd been boxing from 7 years old. Represented Ireland on over 60 occasions. Was a 2 weight national senior champ. Won an EU Silver medal and was ranked as the No1 feather weight in the UK when I turned pro.
I'd never deny that Barry helped get me lots of media attention, especially in NI, but are you suggesting I should be happy with what was going on?
So Barry does everything to help Carl to get to the level he got to but It means that it gives him the right to be able to steal from him in return.
In my world that makes it worse because everything that he done for him then had an agenda behind it.
Barry's silence is deafening
Promoters see a good fighter and instantly think £££££££!!!!
Nonsense. Frampton still would’ve been world champion with or without Barry and still didn’t give him the right to do what he did to Carl.
Frampton ended up at MTK, he’s certainly not to be felt sorry for.
How far down is this comment?
Stop barry
Mtk global offered Fighters great deals you expect the Fighters to look into everyone's background if I was buying meat for my butcher shop and someone offers to legitimately sell me the meat at 75% the standard price and then it turned out the guy was a drugs king pin how's that morally affected me how was I to know their business I'm not the police I'm owning a butcher shop and Frampton is not the police he's a professional boxer
@@RickTheBoss98spot on mate. Why should frampton care
“Look into everyone’s background “
Are you trying to insinuate he was unaware of the kinahans
Lol please, fair enough say he was entitled to get paid it’s a tough sport but don’t try play misdirection man you look like a clown
I think the reason he didn't get paid straight away after his fights was a tax evasion which he was aware of 🤔
This is a one side view not saying it isn’t the case but i’d like to hear both sides
Eddie pays fighters the next day. I’d never accept another fight without being paid for my last.
It happens to the best of them. Ali retired from boxing pretty much skint, as did Tyson and many others.
Irrelevant people
Joe Louis had to make ends meet by working in a cloakroom after he hung up his boxing gloves
Barry had been screwed in the past and he just played the same game with Carl☘👊👍
What
What a daft comment.
Therefore he should have protected his fighter from the same.
Carl would break your nose for posting that fenian emoji. The man is a proud loyalist and Rangers fan
You dont screw … Barry should have helped him avoid pitfalls. Lost all respect for the midgets Barry 😂. Greedy bas..ard
He got on fine with the McGuaigans until they went onto tv saying Dan K shouldn't be in boxing. Strange that
Regarding the out-of-court settlement, Mr Frampton said: "It was the right thing to do.
"The agreement was right for me to settle on and I was happy with the terms that were agreed."
The Belfast boxer was asked if that effectively meant that he won.
He replied: "I can't say that, no, but I can say I'm very, very happy with the terms of the settlement."
Nobody is allowed to say they won. That's the rules of the settlement. What I can say is that I am extremely happy with the settlement. Extremely happy👍
Thing is, McGuigan comes from an era when that was happening all the time, even to Barry. But shame on him for it. I remember working the security with Gardener and Hayde Promotions back in the early '90's at the Star leisure centre, Cardiff. Hyde v Jacobs for British heavyweight title. My mate refused McGuigan entry because he didn't have his pass and also he didn't recognise him. Barry was not too impressed, and said, Don't you know who I am?? My mate replied, I don't give a fk who you are, you're not coming in this way without your fkn pass 🤣🤣
simon jordan some of the questions were banal unless he was an accountant as well as a boxer and was there a sale on in the charity clothing shop near you
Lost all respect for mcguigan, after what happened Carl, and I'm on the green side ☘️ Stealing from any boxers is downright wrong.
Carlos fought for Ireland. Always been very respectful and said only wanted to fight for Ireland.
When it comes to big sums of money you can't trust anybody!
Without knowing anything at all, I believe Carl. Just a feeling that’s all.
Maybe cbs made sure in contract
He can thank Carl, for not getting messed
There are two sides to every story. I'd like to here McGuigan's as well. Then somewhere in the middle is the actual truth.
I just think he was robbed and the thing that shocked me about that is that Barry was a fighter and knew what it was like to be scammed. It’s also an eye opener in the fact that Hearn never ever has he been accused of not paying or paying less than contractually obligated and that’s a shocking thing in the sport of boxing. Also why is Simon asking the victim what the motives of the criminals were!?!?
what was the outcome of the court case?
Reports that Jackal got paid a few mill and case was settled.
Gas how he called Scott quigg stupid😂
Barry got all his knowledge of scamming Frampton from Don King 😂
carl is a fair man..no hatred in him
pity they were both great fighters. i still admire both of them, however in the ring think barry would have won
I think the only way for them to settle this dispute is for Barry to come out of retirement and to fight it out in the ring.
Mcguigans should be banned from boxing or atleast sentenced to fraud if it was proven
He absolutely hates the McGuigans now
The whole mcguigan clan was all getting fed before Carl.
BURRRyyyyyy
I love their pronunciation of Barry.
So it is
Used to think barry and his family where good people after this makes you think again
If I offer you a contract and it says you get 25% and I get 75%. You readagree and sign it, who is the fool? And where is their any wrong doing
I think the biggest issue is Carl was managed trained and promoted by them
So all 3 needed paying
So I guess it felt like he was giving them all his money ,
It’s sane old story in boxing, happened to the Hattons , Naz and Brendan ingle just to name a few
Brendan ingle never ripped Naz off ever
@@Unknown-ny4ei , so why did they fall out? In Naz mind he was owed more money
You always gotta pay your lads. Criminal not to do so.
This kind of corruption is why we can't have nice things.
Tigers Bay son
And what did Barry say about legend Brendan ingle in the naz situation he wasn't very complimentary of Brendan and he didn't even know all the facts
Money is survival n it will bend the straightest of people, just look at every politician😢
1:14 - £397,000 is serious money.
Screwed over his best fighter he was managing great fight Carl was beat fight was Santa-cuz first fight class 12 rounds
Need to ditch that ring, Simon.
Boxing is a dirty business were money is involved promoters are like snake oil salesmen but I expected better off Barry but is it a case Barry turned into Eastwood.!
I like to hear Barry's side...Frampton a bit of a bitter Brit
Ask him about Daniel Kinahan
That is who this chat is really about.
You can look up bbc article where he talks about working with MTK promotions, he said they were good to him.
No disrespect Carl , but if you had your own accountant he should have told you how much vat you owed not Barry, I don’t agree
With the late payments. But you need to surround yourself with better people and always get a second opinion even if you do trust them!!