As an alternate pathway for my theory, you could also say that sometime after season 9, Zane again split his power source for Pixal so that she wouldn't have to worry about losing power. This can play into the Pixal has potential ice powers angle if that's your thing, and explain the season 11 staff reaction. At that point, the only thing that needs to change is why Pixal is gone in Dragons Rising, which could have any number of alternate explanations.
The only issue with that is that, based off the footage you showed, Zane still has a fully round power core post season 9. Meaning that he didn't split his heart nor would Pixal have or demonstrate any ice powers. It would definitely be cool if Zane did have to share it with her again later on in DR though.
Another layer to this question is "What is the source for the elemental powers of the original four ninja?". It's established that elemental powers are genetic, but at the same time, the four ninja were first dependant on the golden weapons to have powers, and then Lloyd had to give up his golden power to let them have their powers, and then their powers were tied to Lloyd. My explanation is that the golden weapons had elemental powers in them, and they were used as conduits for the ninja to reach their powers and true potential since they were part of The Green Ninja Prophecy, and Lloyd had to possess their their real powers to have the golden power to defeat the overlord, to then have him give them each their powers. Unlike Nya and everyone else who had to manually create a connection to their element to start using/controlling it, the four ninja were allowed a shortcut to their true potential and elements, not that it makes their true potential less real, they just had to have a seperate way to have powers until Lloyd gave them theirs. All four must have always had an "imprint" for their powers genetically/powersource-wise, but there weren't actually any powers there in them until they were depandantly using the powers in the golden weapons (people could use the powers in the weapons by themselves, but it was still only each respective ninja that could use them to create/use their powers freely with their hands) and then "permanantly" as Lloyd gave them to them - As long as Lloyd isn't possessed/corrupted or something (which makes me think that if Lloyd dies, will the four ninja just get their powers independantly? Since we already know that elemental powers seek out hosts after someone dies, then maybe the four ninja can just have their powers completely if Lloyd dies?). What does this mean for Zane? Well through the PMOI (previous master of ice) giving Zane his powers, the energy must have lost its actual elemental power and only had an imprint for the elemental power of ice as Zane was destined to be part of The Green Ninja Prophecy and the ice power had to find its way to Lloyd. But how did Dr. Julien build a functioning humanlike droid with a sentient intellect to begin with? Or was he not sentient until the PMOI gave up his elemental powers to Zane? Either way the elemental powers can't just be an elemental source, but it must also be able to function as just energy on its own as well. What if when PMOI gave the energy/power to Zane, it kind of gave Zane's existing body and what existed of his artificial intelligence/programming (that Dr. Julien created) a real consciousness/mind/"soul". When Zane gives half his powersource to Pixal, it is just like said in the video, "the amount of power available to him is just now less than he's used to", his consciousness still exists between the energy of half the powersource and his programming - him not having the same fighting abilities/spinjitzu abilities are just a temporary side-effect while he is getting used to that. Then his powersource's imprint for the elemental power of ice gets filled with said power as Lloyd gives it to him at the temple. When Zane dies, his artificial consciousness is merged/imprinted in the energy of the powersource, the energy that now has Zane's consciousness now enters the digital world in Borg's tower (I think this is only possible since Zane is artificial and not organic, so organic elemental masters could not do this, Zane is just special on another level, just like how he has visions - he is connected to something more "ethereal?/cosmic?") and builds himself a new body. This body gets some kind of powersource or powersource-house by what's available in the tower, but then the elemental power/energy (that Zane's consciousness is connected to) then adds itself to this powersource and body. This is in line with the elemental powers nature, just like how the elemental power of wind found Euphrasia after Morro died, but the elemental power of ice IS Zane as well. As for the other powersource half that Pixel got, I think it is in the thing that Zane inserts in his head to make Pixel a part of him. Then it could be possible that since Pixal leaves Zane, that she was part of the power of ice and the energy from the other powersource half Zane put in his head disappears with her, she enters the digital world, builds herself a new body and the power/her consiousness then inhabits it. I think that Pixal is - since getting/becoming the other half of Zane's powersource/the other half of the ice power/energy - next in line for the ice powers to go to if Zane dies. We know to people can "share" a power like Krux and Acronix with the power of time, so Zane and Pixal could share ice as well. Since Pixal glowed when holding the scroll of forbidden spinjitzu, that could either be her powersource being of ice-power energy but no power (since Zane is the person "imprinted" to have the power through the prophecy), or her dormant ice powers.
I've had the theory for a few years now that Zane's power source is a piece of chronosteel infused with the previous master of ice's elemental power. As for how Zane still has his powers after being rebuilt, I don't think it's 'impossible' that it could have been recovered after the Overlord's destruction and used in his new design. Perhaps the power of ice returned to his heart as we have seen other powers return to the same people who lost them as long as they are still living. I believe Zane, as well as Pixal, were somehow given sentience because ice is an element of creation.
It has unfortunately been shown several times that even if your elemental power is stolen entirely, it just kind of… grows back. That’s probably what happened to at least one half of the heart. Though it might have been interesting if Zane stayed dead and Pixal had to grapple with suddenly being the new master of ice.
Could the status of the heart work like this? Before Rebooted - Zane has the whole thing. During Rebooted - Zane has 1/2 and Pixal has 1/2 After Rebooted - Zane's 1/2 gets destroyed, Pixal gives hers to Zane's new body After Hands of Time - Zane gives Pixal half of his heart, so she doesn't have to rely on the Ninjago grid. Both now have 1/4 of the original heart, but HALF of his heart that is still around. That lines up with the "Half of my heart" line, and also explains Pixal's glowing eyes during SotFS
from my 10+ years of experience obsessing with ninjago, I have learned that ninjago has a lot of ambiguity and implications thrown in there. for example, it is never explicitly aid that when you pass your elemental powers to your child, that you lose it yourself, but apparently that is the case and the show tends to prove this. same this with the overloard being immortal. as to what happened with zanes power source (and honestly his resurrection entirely) is another one of the ambiguous mysteries. my theory? Dr. Julien has found a way to give his robots near unlimited power (explaining his power source), but the previous master of ice also infused the ice element with that power source, so it is a combination of both. this would explain why zane couldn't do spinjitzu himself after he split his power source as spinjitzu is often connected with one's element, often making the technique easier if you have one, but not impossible if your don't (misako is proof). As for zane's "death", I believe while his body was destroyed, his half of the power source was either still in tact or fused with the surrounding technology (likely the latter or both considering his partial sentience was still inside the digiverse and managed to rebuild himself, which for that to happen, at least part of zane has to be part of cyrus borg's tech tower, and the most likely culprit would be zane's half of the power source got fused with the surrounding technology from the ice explosion). which by then both halves would still remain with their respective users due to zane's half of the power source either was put back into new zane, or power source energy infused with borg's technology left and entered into zane with a new physical form of the power source. zane's power source fusing with borg's technology would also have more merit because the overlord did the exact same thing with himself. when chen happened, either A) chen took pixel's half of the source, put it in zane, and stole the elemental component out of it, or B) stole elemental components out of each specifically, then when zane found dismantled pixel, took that half of the power source and put it in himself offscreen. either way shows that the power source must at least have some sort of non-elemental power to it. this also explains why zane can do spinjitzu on his own now. then moving on to season 7 when pixel rebuilt herself, she could have taken her half of the source out of zane to put in her new body, or some other thing I haven't thought of. if the first option was the case, it would leave the hole of why can zane do spinjitzu still? to that I say either zane has gotten stronger and a better grasp of spinjitzu, or forgetful writing, probably the second. pixel could have also only taken half of zane's power source, but out of that half, only taken the electrical part so zane has 100% ice still, but 50% electrical power left. at least that is my best theory. the writers probably didn't even think this deeply about it when they were writing the show season 3 onward. to be fair, most people who would be watching this would be younger viewers who wouldn't think that deeply about something like this, so often times creative liberties are taken with shows like this. another half-assed reason for dr. julien's old robots still working and other robots still working is because of the age old cartoon logic of "robots are powered on nothing because of convenience's sake", but even this has many flaws. ninjago is an inconsistent show to say the least with many plot holes, but I still love it nonetheless.
This is why I love tuning into Parachutingkittens videos. She uploads videos about other things that happen in Ninjago that we would never care or even know about, and us and her rewatching the seasons with her roommates
9:40-9:50 HOLD UP- You know when Kai can't use the Forbidden spinjitzu staff or whatever but PIXAL CAN??? This explains it! She does have his elemental power!!
@@MelodyBrookstone Yk, I actually had a theory that certain emotions can also power the scroll. For example, Kai’s fear and Vex’s bitterness held them back from unleashing the power of the scroll, while Asphera’s rage and Zane’s determination have them a strength buff. When Pixal had the scroll, both her grief and her newfound hoe could have given her a little boost
This could also potentially explain how Pixal was able to use Apheera's staff to get the others to the Never Realm. If I recall (and it has been a minute since I've watched season 11), it has a visible effect on Pixal similar to (but not the exact same as) those with elemental powers. This is notable because it doesn't have an effect on Kai (whose powers were drained) or Vex (who doesn't have powers). If she had some sort of remnant of her interaction with the element of ice in her code, that could explain why it responded to her.
When Watching this video, i came with very similar theories. You're great at teaching. Your presentation of evidences foreshadowed everything you've said, and also made your points. Our theories are different in one thing. The power sources location when Zane took over the borg tower. In my version of your theory, Zane pulled out a overlord. Right when the overlord seemed to be defeated for all time, he came back as an AI in the borg Tower (so did Zane at the end of season 3). The overlord Ai was only accessible through the digiverse, in which one can access using Zanes power thingy. This digiverse thing convinced me that Zane's power/conciousness/feelings transmission from the ice master has something in common to the essence of evil transmission of conciousness into AI. For me, the elemental master's interaction with Zane, not only gave Zane the power of Ice, but because it originated from another being with human feelings, it gave him those. I'll call it the essence of zane. Zane in fact destroyed the Overlord holding his own half piece, meaning that Pixal kept the other when he "died". I believe that for this theory to work elemental power cannot be destroyed, but is transmited, maybe this time it was linked to the essence of Zane which maybe by accident, found his way into the borg tower, just like the overlord. I believe tha Zane was then only an Ai, just like the overlord, but when he recreated his body, he had to repeat off what the ice master had done. This time as an Ai, he would have to give away his essence completely, meaninng that he would reincarnate as himself but with no memory. He put his essence into his own power source and this is where the power source remains. The half of the ice elemental power would be within Zane. Also he lost power over the borg tower, meaning Llloyd wouldn't interact with it after finishing mourning for Zane to train. (Fanfic incoming idk anything about Ronin in this section) Zane 2 would wake up with amnesia, but the first thing he saw was Pixal, she would take Zane 2 to the dispersed mourning ninjas, not finding them, instead, chen's Men would recognize Zane, and take them to him, Chen would absorb the Ice power, it's half, what about the other? and absorbed pixal. (fanfic terminated, this continues my rant) While they wer both ripped off from the ice elemental powers they didn't know how to use (Pixal did spinjitzu once and Zane 2 amnesia), the essence of them never fade away. meaning that they both have an ilimited source of power, but no ice elemental power (magic i guess, this is a stretch i recognize it). Being sentient robots with unknown energy took the interest on Chen people who wanted to use this energy/ai for their benefit. Pixal was easily dismantled by them because her body was not made for super rough combat (yet), But zane used titanium or something resisting so the only way to hold off a enemy which you over power but can't destroy is by chaining him. Zane 2 wakes up recognizing Pixal, she tells him that he has been made for combat so he escapes, only to find her in a computer. They could access Pixals power source easily, and power the computer that holds Pixals AI (I believe both were in the disk that Zane 2 takes). Zane 2 takes that disk and puts it in him, thereby joining the half power source he recreated during reincarnation and the original power source he gave to Pixal, this also add her Ai to his head as a secondary AI. This allows Pixal to put her own AI in her recreated combat body. Given that her AI had interaction with the magical feeling-giving power source she still held to her essence when transferring. We know she don't need that power source to get this because she had feelings before she got the transplation. Anyways we have three pieces, one that was from Zane and gave to Pixal; the other that he kept and was destroyed (like a vessel) when fighting the overlord. anda third one. a new vessel created to hold Zane's very essences and elemental power that remained in the AI, this process counts as reincarnation so he don't got no memory. Pixals half heart then helped Zane 2 remember who he was in the previous "life", at the end it's Pixal who helps him do that. He technically fused his old essence and the new one. and also just in time to get those ice elemental powers in the showdown. This "essence" may have interaction with magic or another kind of infinite (by means of duration, not force) energy which is what others may want. And in his eventual death, Zane will have to break this vessel or give up his power, for another Ice master to arise. Sorry for this rant though, if you read this may not have been easy, but i thank you if you do, I enjoy her content just as you. In the end the only differences amongst my version and her theory is minimal. I also may have give unnecessary context. Thank you, for making this video, this is like a puzzle and I enjoyed building my own theory by pausing the video and then get yours, and being honest yours may work better.
I felt like this was going to be set up to be explained. It feels like such a missed opportunity And further- what about echo??? What powers him??? Why hasn't this been explained or explored?
I've always thought that Zane’s power source is the same crystal that was used in Chen's staff. This would explain how it is able to channel his powers.
I like discussions like this, I want you guys to tell me what do you think of that one?. 1, we need to link a bunch of things together A, if we are certain that elemental powers come from dragons, and B, that elemental masters have a connection to dragons then we could say that elemental masters have a tiny bit of dragon energy within them, which would help us verify more theories. 2, the effect of dragon powers/energy/essence on the elementel masters A, we could say that it’s the cause of the elemental masters ability to regain the elemental powers when lost overtime as we have seen before, and also have other secondary effects that we haven’t explored yet. B, this could be the cause of Zane’s ability to have such a power source that is not affected by the loss of his elemental power due to dragon power/energy/essence being its source in the first place, that is, if we assume that dragon power/energy/essence is responsible for having an elemental power and regenerating/invoking it when lost. This theory still needs to be explored, but I believe it should be the closest one that does not conflate with the other aspects that you have mentioned in the video. There is another thing, although I do not believe it is necessary to confirm anything, but when Zane unlocked his elemental dragon in season 4, episode 42 the day of the dragon: he said, “I found a deeper power… dragon power”. I think the theory is strong enough on its own, specially with the new stuff we got in dragons rising, but this line, although old, I think, could prove significant when it comes to that discussion.
Zane’s power source is innately a part of himself, no matter what happens it is a part of him, as he gets dismantled and reassembled his core literally follows him, it is a part of his being. Whenever Zane Reconstructs himself the core always finds a way into his system, the core itself reconstructs Zane, without the core there is no Zane. The core is Zane’s metaphorical soul.
A theory that I have had is that his core is from space. From some kind of alien race. I dont know how Julien got it, but it probably dropped down from space or something 🤷 I think the alien race is kind of connected through that core and is kind of like a hive mind. So I guess that was the first step of him acting strange. He's discontinued from a "home" that is thousands of lightyears away. Though, when the master of ice came to see him and gave him his elemental power, the power might have purified that hive mind-like system. I have another theory that elemental power is a pure substance, but that not the topic right now. So, I guess that his core is both technological and elemental. I mean, in season 11, when Pixal sends them all to the realm of the banished, her eyes glow white. Maybe, with her having half of Zanes heart, she has hints of elemental energy inside her, and that's why she gained emotions in season 3. Maybe she can even do spinjitsu if she really wanted. I mean, Misako can. I don't know, I wanted ro incorporate more space into the lore of Ninjago since they were only there ONCE. GIVE ME AND ALIEN INVASION PEOPLE! Actually, me and my girlfriend are making our own fan season based off of this entire idea :) crazy lol Anyway- great video! It got me thinking a lot more about how this show as so many gosh darn plot holes. They really need to be fixed... But what is the wonder of Ninjago if you aren't left guessing?
It's possible the original master of ice used something like chen's crystal that has the ability to seal elemental powers because he was afraid his powers might vanish because he don't have children or something
Yeah, your stronest and final theory seems the most plausible. It is a power connected to creation and it's not like creation can't create sentient life of some sort (i.e. like those clones).👍🤔 Edit: Also, the Weapons Of Creation/Golden Weapons can in fact make a portal so there is also that.
I honestly stopped questioning the logic in this show when I saw Lloyd pull out 2 katanas out of nowhere in season 7. From there, anything that happens, I just sum it up to cartoon logic.
I never commented this for some reason, but I think Zane recreated his core along with his body, so Pixal still has half of Zane's ORIGINAL heart while Zane is still fully powered with his new one
I’m looking to deep into this but if the original Zane was build like at least 30-20 years before the show started would that mean Zane could possibly be made of toxic and dangerous materials like lead, mercury or asbestos. We aren’t sure how old he was so there’s possibly that he was made before certain health and safety regulations were put in.
My theory: Zane power source is allspark fragment remember when in Transformers Animated the allspark exploded on million fragments? That means one of the fragments could be found by Doctor Jullien and used to power him up or the fragment just fly into Zane and yeah Ninjago and Transformers Animated is one of the best or even the best shows I watched as a kid
My theory is that glowing energy sources is Zane’s chi and I’m not talking about the stuff from chima in Chinese mythology chi is the they that goes through living things so when Zane have half to Pixel she became alive to and with a soul. And after the technology has interacted with it they do have a soul permanently, either that or source dragon power.
now what if his core is some sort of concentrated cronosteal? I literally just got this idea cause you mentioned it's a metal with the element of ice in it. my claim doesn't really change much however it does kinda add more logic to your conclusion, honestly. Edit: I really like the idea that pixal is somewhere waitring for zane for resisitate her
Hey kitten, If you ever want to get a quick video out, I would watch a video of you ranking each of the ninja - including arron and sorra, [+wu, garmadon, hirumi, skylar, morrow, and unagami if you want to get spicy] on their orphan-ness. I think Pixal is the least degree of orphan because her father has never been effectively dead over her ‘upbringing’. After that either cole or jay, because jay was adopted shortly after birth by a full family but cole is actually lost his mother-the mother that was his mom mother and blood mother. Also, cole lost his mother when he was young, jay was adopted when he was even younger, but didn’t find out until he was older. Zane thought he was an orphan all is life, before remembering watching his dad die, after wich he found out his dad was alive, and then his dad died again for real this time. So Zane’s only parent died twice, wich in some ways is like 200% orpanness but is also 0% orphannes because zane was old enough to care for himself, mentally and chronologically. Poor Lloyd was dropped off at a boarding school and abandoned by both his parents, sounds like for years. And Kai and Nya we know were actually totally on their own for years- but their parents were alive the whole time. Arron can’t find his parents and grew up essentially without them, and sora disowned hers and also grew up essentially without them, but they are 100% alive and she literally named herself orphan. Its just so wild to me that they’re all like part-orphans, Yet the only 100% confirmed dead parents are jay’s birth dad, Zane’s dad and cole’s mom (grmadon has come back too often for me to say hes 100%) but the only one who seemingly grew up with parents are those same ninja! (Other than pixal, although it’s debatable as to if she ‘grew up’ at all)
My personal headcanon is that the power source can regenerate itself. I mean, we already don’t understand it, so why not throw another complication into the works? I’m sure it could be disproven, but it seems like the simplest solution.
Well there was a three or two year gap of s2 and 3 so and they were going into a futuristic take on ninjago city so between those times they might of replaced his steampunk look to a icy powered source technical design
elemental power giving ai sentience also explains why cryptor and the other nindroids have sentience and even souls since they were were connected to the overlord who also had power so thats why at least cryptor and mindoid had personalities and even loyalty to the overlord the only one that break this rule is unagami (and everyone else in prime empire) but maybe there is answer somewhere
i always thought the core was powered by elemental power. before the previous ice master showed up he was powered by something normal, maybe he needed to plug in or something and then the ice master gave him powers and the power source became powered by the element (instead of the other way around). besides that i think your final theory is very well made!
And it could actually tie into how the elemental master of ice before Zane passed on his power, maybe he used chronosteel which he knew could hold the power as seen in battle for all of time (that was the top comment, not my own theory) That reminds me of the scrapped concept of Prime Empire being powered by Jay's mom. Your theory would explain why or how Unagami even became sentient, it's because he's powered by the elemental power of lightning.
I always got the theory that it’s an ice shard powered with elemental energy that the master of ice when meeting Zane knowing his time was going to end he used his last remaining power force to make an ice shard crawl with all of his elemental power But now this is getting deep I think it also gave him things he wasn’t supposed to have it gave him a part of himself of the master of ice giving him human emotion and everything that why he’s emotion are so real and we also saw him cry self if it don’t maked sens it’s beceaus it gave him a part of humanity comming from the master of ice but also some spiritual skills master of ice learned that should explain WHY HE HAD VISION WHEN THERE WAS NO REASON FOR HIM TO HAVE it’s beceaus he gained the spiritual skills of master of ice
It's allspark fragment from Animated but technically you are right because on the end of Animated Optimus Prime haved allspark as a matrix of leadership so yea we are both right
Is it possible with the help of the half of his power source to regenerate and recreate a new or different part. However, it produces INFINITE ENERGY, which needs time to regenerate, as we saw in the episode with the rocket. In my opinion, this is the most logical theory and if it is true everything will fall into place.
W VIDEO (Idk if i wasted time watching your 4 hour and 30 min video on the misogynistic side of ninjago) edit: not like it was a bad video just it's a show about lego's and here we are (:
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As an alternate pathway for my theory, you could also say that sometime after season 9, Zane again split his power source for Pixal so that she wouldn't have to worry about losing power. This can play into the Pixal has potential ice powers angle if that's your thing, and explain the season 11 staff reaction. At that point, the only thing that needs to change is why Pixal is gone in Dragons Rising, which could have any number of alternate explanations.
The only issue with that is that, based off the footage you showed, Zane still has a fully round power core post season 9. Meaning that he didn't split his heart nor would Pixal have or demonstrate any ice powers.
It would definitely be cool if Zane did have to share it with her again later on in DR though.
She should return as an elemental master of frost. What is frost, but weaker ice?
Also, I love the screensaver!
Another layer to this question is "What is the source for the elemental powers of the original four ninja?". It's established that elemental powers are genetic, but at the same time, the four ninja were first dependant on the golden weapons to have powers, and then Lloyd had to give up his golden power to let them have their powers, and then their powers were tied to Lloyd. My explanation is that the golden weapons had elemental powers in them, and they were used as conduits for the ninja to reach their powers and true potential since they were part of The Green Ninja Prophecy, and Lloyd had to possess their their real powers to have the golden power to defeat the overlord, to then have him give them each their powers.
Unlike Nya and everyone else who had to manually create a connection to their element to start using/controlling it, the four ninja were allowed a shortcut to their true potential and elements, not that it makes their true potential less real, they just had to have a seperate way to have powers until Lloyd gave them theirs. All four must have always had an "imprint" for their powers genetically/powersource-wise, but there weren't actually any powers there in them until they were depandantly using the powers in the golden weapons (people could use the powers in the weapons by themselves, but it was still only each respective ninja that could use them to create/use their powers freely with their hands) and then "permanantly" as Lloyd gave them to them - As long as Lloyd isn't possessed/corrupted or something (which makes me think that if Lloyd dies, will the four ninja just get their powers independantly? Since we already know that elemental powers seek out hosts after someone dies, then maybe the four ninja can just have their powers completely if Lloyd dies?).
What does this mean for Zane? Well through the PMOI (previous master of ice) giving Zane his powers, the energy must have lost its actual elemental power and only had an imprint for the elemental power of ice as Zane was destined to be part of The Green Ninja Prophecy and the ice power had to find its way to Lloyd.
But how did Dr. Julien build a functioning humanlike droid with a sentient intellect to begin with? Or was he not sentient until the PMOI gave up his elemental powers to Zane? Either way the elemental powers can't just be an elemental source, but it must also be able to function as just energy on its own as well. What if when PMOI gave the energy/power to Zane, it kind of gave Zane's existing body and what existed of his artificial intelligence/programming (that Dr. Julien created) a real consciousness/mind/"soul". When Zane gives half his powersource to Pixal, it is just like said in the video, "the amount of power available to him is just now less than he's used to", his consciousness still exists between the energy of half the powersource and his programming - him not having the same fighting abilities/spinjitzu abilities are just a temporary side-effect while he is getting used to that. Then his powersource's imprint for the elemental power of ice gets filled with said power as Lloyd gives it to him at the temple. When Zane dies, his artificial consciousness is merged/imprinted in the energy of the powersource, the energy that now has Zane's consciousness now enters the digital world in Borg's tower (I think this is only possible since Zane is artificial and not organic, so organic elemental masters could not do this, Zane is just special on another level, just like how he has visions - he is connected to something more "ethereal?/cosmic?") and builds himself a new body. This body gets some kind of powersource or powersource-house by what's available in the tower, but then the elemental power/energy (that Zane's consciousness is connected to) then adds itself to this powersource and body. This is in line with the elemental powers nature, just like how the elemental power of wind found Euphrasia after Morro died, but the elemental power of ice IS Zane as well.
As for the other powersource half that Pixel got, I think it is in the thing that Zane inserts in his head to make Pixel a part of him. Then it could be possible that since Pixal leaves Zane, that she was part of the power of ice and the energy from the other powersource half Zane put in his head disappears with her, she enters the digital world, builds herself a new body and the power/her consiousness then inhabits it.
I think that Pixal is - since getting/becoming the other half of Zane's powersource/the other half of the ice power/energy - next in line for the ice powers to go to if Zane dies. We know to people can "share" a power like Krux and Acronix with the power of time, so Zane and Pixal could share ice as well. Since Pixal glowed when holding the scroll of forbidden spinjitzu, that could either be her powersource being of ice-power energy but no power (since Zane is the person "imprinted" to have the power through the prophecy), or her dormant ice powers.
Maybe Zane’s Power Source is made of Chronosteel! That would explain why it can hold the elemental energy
I love this theory so much
Chronosteel is difficult to work with. A thin disc of chronosteel would be extremely expensive.
What about echo?
Tommy: It's just tech
My lord, Tommy is the bane of my existence
Let’s just say he’s not exactly Sora
tommys vagueness is honestly the real villain of ninjago
@@gigikju9934I'm pretty sure tech is like shockwave and is only in imperiam before the merge
I've had the theory for a few years now that Zane's power source is a piece of chronosteel infused with the previous master of ice's elemental power. As for how Zane still has his powers after being rebuilt, I don't think it's 'impossible' that it could have been recovered after the Overlord's destruction and used in his new design. Perhaps the power of ice returned to his heart as we have seen other powers return to the same people who lost them as long as they are still living. I believe Zane, as well as Pixal, were somehow given sentience because ice is an element of creation.
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It has unfortunately been shown several times that even if your elemental power is stolen entirely, it just kind of… grows back. That’s probably what happened to at least one half of the heart.
Though it might have been interesting if Zane stayed dead and Pixal had to grapple with suddenly being the new master of ice.
Shoutout to Kai for just throwing his 2 cents into the mix lol
Yep.
Them going back to the island and grabbing Pixal's body gives me a fanfic idea, and amazing theory!
What’s the fic??? I’m invested now
@@gigikju9934same!!
Don't forget the falcon and julien's bodyguard who also seem to have unlimited power source
Could the status of the heart work like this?
Before Rebooted - Zane has the whole thing.
During Rebooted - Zane has 1/2 and Pixal has 1/2
After Rebooted - Zane's 1/2 gets destroyed, Pixal gives hers to Zane's new body
After Hands of Time - Zane gives Pixal half of his heart, so she doesn't have to rely on the Ninjago grid. Both now have 1/4 of the original heart, but HALF of his heart that is still around.
That lines up with the "Half of my heart" line, and also explains Pixal's glowing eyes during SotFS
6:16 It's also worth noting that Zane's core is on his left side, and the cord's plugged into the right.
I think that’s just a port similar to a wall brick
from my 10+ years of experience obsessing with ninjago, I have learned that ninjago has a lot of ambiguity and implications thrown in there. for example, it is never explicitly aid that when you pass your elemental powers to your child, that you lose it yourself, but apparently that is the case and the show tends to prove this. same this with the overloard being immortal.
as to what happened with zanes power source (and honestly his resurrection entirely) is another one of the ambiguous mysteries.
my theory? Dr. Julien has found a way to give his robots near unlimited power (explaining his power source), but the previous master of ice also infused the ice element with that power source, so it is a combination of both.
this would explain why zane couldn't do spinjitzu himself after he split his power source as spinjitzu is often connected with one's element, often making the technique easier if you have one, but not impossible if your don't (misako is proof). As for zane's "death", I believe while his body was destroyed, his half of the power source was either still in tact or fused with the surrounding technology (likely the latter or both considering his partial sentience was still inside the digiverse and managed to rebuild himself, which for that to happen, at least part of zane has to be part of cyrus borg's tech tower, and the most likely culprit would be zane's half of the power source got fused with the surrounding technology from the ice explosion). which by then both halves would still remain with their respective users due to zane's half of the power source either was put back into new zane, or power source energy infused with borg's technology left and entered into zane with a new physical form of the power source. zane's power source fusing with borg's technology would also have more merit because the overlord did the exact same thing with himself.
when chen happened, either A) chen took pixel's half of the source, put it in zane, and stole the elemental component out of it, or B) stole elemental components out of each specifically, then when zane found dismantled pixel, took that half of the power source and put it in himself offscreen. either way shows that the power source must at least have some sort of non-elemental power to it. this also explains why zane can do spinjitzu on his own now.
then moving on to season 7 when pixel rebuilt herself, she could have taken her half of the source out of zane to put in her new body, or some other thing I haven't thought of. if the first option was the case, it would leave the hole of why can zane do spinjitzu still? to that I say either zane has gotten stronger and a better grasp of spinjitzu, or forgetful writing, probably the second. pixel could have also only taken half of zane's power source, but out of that half, only taken the electrical part so zane has 100% ice still, but 50% electrical power left.
at least that is my best theory. the writers probably didn't even think this deeply about it when they were writing the show season 3 onward. to be fair, most people who would be watching this would be younger viewers who wouldn't think that deeply about something like this, so often times creative liberties are taken with shows like this.
another half-assed reason for dr. julien's old robots still working and other robots still working is because of the age old cartoon logic of "robots are powered on nothing because of convenience's sake", but even this has many flaws.
ninjago is an inconsistent show to say the least with many plot holes, but I still love it nonetheless.
Dang you wrote a whole essay
@@LuckyTheCat256 **wanna see me do it again?**
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This is why I love tuning into Parachutingkittens videos.
She uploads videos about other things that happen in Ninjago that we would never care or even know about, and us and her rewatching the seasons with her roommates
9:40-9:50 HOLD UP- You know when Kai can't use the Forbidden spinjitzu staff or whatever but PIXAL CAN??? This explains it! She does have his elemental power!!
@@MelodyBrookstone Yk, I actually had a theory that certain emotions can also power the scroll. For example, Kai’s fear and Vex’s bitterness held them back from unleashing the power of the scroll, while Asphera’s rage and Zane’s determination have them a strength buff. When Pixal had the scroll, both her grief and her newfound hoe could have given her a little boost
@@gigikju9934 ohhhhhh
mmk i've already watched that season like
If we ever get a shot of Zane "sleeping" at the Monastery by being plugged into an outlet in the wall its joever
If it's made out of elemental energy, it could also have regererated because of the theme of the ninja all getting their powers back
If it was made out elemental energy wouldn’t he die whenever he loses his powers
This could also potentially explain how Pixal was able to use Apheera's staff to get the others to the Never Realm. If I recall (and it has been a minute since I've watched season 11), it has a visible effect on Pixal similar to (but not the exact same as) those with elemental powers. This is notable because it doesn't have an effect on Kai (whose powers were drained) or Vex (who doesn't have powers). If she had some sort of remnant of her interaction with the element of ice in her code, that could explain why it responded to her.
When Watching this video, i came with very similar theories. You're great at teaching. Your presentation of evidences foreshadowed everything you've said, and also made your points. Our theories are different in one thing. The power sources location when Zane took over the borg tower.
In my version of your theory, Zane pulled out a overlord. Right when the overlord seemed to be defeated for all time, he came back as an AI in the borg Tower (so did Zane at the end of season 3). The overlord Ai was only accessible through the digiverse, in which one can access using Zanes power thingy.
This digiverse thing convinced me that Zane's power/conciousness/feelings transmission from the ice master has something in common to the essence of evil transmission of conciousness into AI.
For me, the elemental master's interaction with Zane, not only gave Zane the power of Ice, but because it originated from another being with human feelings, it gave him those. I'll call it the essence of zane.
Zane in fact destroyed the Overlord holding his own half piece, meaning that Pixal kept the other when he "died". I believe that for this theory to work elemental power cannot be destroyed, but is transmited, maybe this time it was linked to the essence of Zane which maybe by accident, found his way into the borg tower, just like the overlord.
I believe tha Zane was then only an Ai, just like the overlord, but when he recreated his body, he had to repeat off what the ice master had done. This time as an Ai, he would have to give away his essence completely, meaninng that he would reincarnate as himself but with no memory. He put his essence into his own power source and this is where the power source remains. The half of the ice elemental power would be within Zane. Also he lost power over the borg tower, meaning Llloyd wouldn't interact with it after finishing mourning for Zane to train.
(Fanfic incoming idk anything about Ronin in this section)
Zane 2 would wake up with amnesia, but the first thing he saw was Pixal, she would take Zane 2 to the dispersed mourning ninjas, not finding them, instead, chen's Men would recognize Zane, and take them to him, Chen would absorb the Ice power, it's half, what about the other? and absorbed pixal.
(fanfic terminated, this continues my rant)
While they wer both ripped off from the ice elemental powers they didn't know how to use (Pixal did spinjitzu once and Zane 2 amnesia), the essence of them never fade away. meaning that they both have an ilimited source of power, but no ice elemental power (magic i guess, this is a stretch i recognize it). Being sentient robots with unknown energy took the interest on Chen people who wanted to use this energy/ai for their benefit. Pixal was easily dismantled by them because her body was not made for super rough combat (yet), But zane used titanium or something resisting so the only way to hold off a enemy which you over power but can't destroy is by chaining him.
Zane 2 wakes up recognizing Pixal, she tells him that he has been made for combat so he escapes, only to find her in a computer. They could access Pixals power source easily, and power the computer that holds Pixals AI (I believe both were in the disk that Zane 2 takes). Zane 2 takes that disk and puts it in him, thereby joining the half power source he recreated during reincarnation and the original power source he gave to Pixal, this also add her Ai to his head as a secondary AI.
This allows Pixal to put her own AI in her recreated combat body. Given that her AI had interaction with the magical feeling-giving power source she still held to her essence when transferring. We know she don't need that power source to get this because she had feelings before she got the transplation.
Anyways we have three pieces, one that was from Zane and gave to Pixal; the other that he kept and was destroyed (like a vessel) when fighting the overlord. anda third one. a new vessel created to hold Zane's very essences and elemental power that remained in the AI, this process counts as reincarnation so he don't got no memory.
Pixals half heart then helped Zane 2 remember who he was in the previous "life", at the end it's Pixal who helps him do that. He technically fused his old essence and the new one. and also just in time to get those ice elemental powers in the showdown.
This "essence" may have interaction with magic or another kind of infinite (by means of duration, not force) energy which is what others may want. And in his eventual death, Zane will have to break this vessel or give up his power, for another Ice master to arise.
Sorry for this rant though, if you read this may not have been easy, but i thank you if you do, I enjoy her content just as you. In the end the only differences amongst my version and her theory is minimal. I also may have give unnecessary context.
Thank you, for making this video, this is like a puzzle and I enjoyed building my own theory by pausing the video and then get yours, and being honest yours may work better.
I felt like this was going to be set up to be explained. It feels like such a missed opportunity
And further- what about echo??? What powers him???
Why hasn't this been explained or explored?
Echo is powered by the plot
@@snakemaster254 u ain't wrong
I really hope he comes back 😢
I'm sure they just split Zane's power source into quarters... It'll be fine... Right?
I've always thought that Zane’s power source is the same crystal that was used in Chen's staff. This would explain how it is able to channel his powers.
WHY HAVE I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AT ALL??? Such a good video!! Thank you!!!!!!!!!
AMAZING theory explanation!!!
I like discussions like this, I want you guys to tell me what do you think of that one?.
1, we need to link a bunch of things together
A, if we are certain that elemental powers come from dragons, and
B, that elemental masters have a connection to dragons
then we could say that elemental masters have a tiny bit of dragon energy within them, which would help us verify more theories.
2, the effect of dragon powers/energy/essence on the elementel masters
A, we could say that it’s the cause of the elemental masters ability to regain the elemental powers when lost overtime as we have seen before, and also have other secondary effects that we haven’t explored yet.
B, this could be the cause of Zane’s ability to have such a power source that is not affected by the loss of his elemental power due to dragon power/energy/essence being its source in the first place, that is, if we assume that dragon power/energy/essence is responsible for having an elemental power and regenerating/invoking it when lost.
This theory still needs to be explored, but I believe it should be the closest one that does not conflate with the other aspects that you have mentioned in the video.
There is another thing, although I do not believe it is necessary to confirm anything, but when Zane unlocked his elemental dragon in season 4, episode 42 the day of the dragon: he said, “I found a deeper power… dragon power”.
I think the theory is strong enough on its own, specially with the new stuff we got in dragons rising, but this line, although old, I think, could prove significant when it comes to that discussion.
Love that you can make it all make sense! Thanks for your theory!
Your videos are seriously underrated I love it
The fact that this sorta lines up with dragons rising is crazy I forgot that the power grid just disappeared
And In his core suit (which is canon thanks to DR) you can see his power source again
Zane’s power source is innately a part of himself, no matter what happens it is a part of him, as he gets dismantled and reassembled his core literally follows him, it is a part of his being. Whenever Zane Reconstructs himself the core always finds a way into his system, the core itself reconstructs Zane, without the core there is no Zane. The core is Zane’s metaphorical soul.
Spectacular video
I think I’m season eight when Zane says “You have half my heart.” I think it was said in more of a romantic way.
A theory that I have had is that his core is from space. From some kind of alien race. I dont know how Julien got it, but it probably dropped down from space or something 🤷
I think the alien race is kind of connected through that core and is kind of like a hive mind. So I guess that was the first step of him acting strange. He's discontinued from a "home" that is thousands of lightyears away.
Though, when the master of ice came to see him and gave him his elemental power, the power might have purified that hive mind-like system.
I have another theory that elemental power is a pure substance, but that not the topic right now.
So, I guess that his core is both technological and elemental. I mean, in season 11, when Pixal sends them all to the realm of the banished, her eyes glow white. Maybe, with her having half of Zanes heart, she has hints of elemental energy inside her, and that's why she gained emotions in season 3. Maybe she can even do spinjitsu if she really wanted. I mean, Misako can.
I don't know, I wanted ro incorporate more space into the lore of Ninjago since they were only there ONCE. GIVE ME AND ALIEN INVASION PEOPLE!
Actually, me and my girlfriend are making our own fan season based off of this entire idea :) crazy lol
Anyway- great video! It got me thinking a lot more about how this show as so many gosh darn plot holes. They really need to be fixed... But what is the wonder of Ninjago if you aren't left guessing?
It's possible the original master of ice used something like chen's crystal that has the ability to seal elemental powers because he was afraid his powers might vanish because he don't have children or something
Yeah, your stronest and final theory seems the most plausible. It is a power connected to creation and it's not like creation can't create sentient life of some sort (i.e. like those clones).👍🤔
Edit: Also, the Weapons Of Creation/Golden Weapons can in fact make a portal so there is also that.
I honestly stopped questioning the logic in this show when I saw Lloyd pull out 2 katanas out of nowhere in season 7. From there, anything that happens, I just sum it up to cartoon logic.
Such drip... for the life-force of a character from an animated LEGO series... I dig it
19:36 I truly hope he finds her!😭
matpat if he did ninjago theorys:
If only that happened...
I never commented this for some reason, but I think Zane recreated his core along with his body, so Pixal still has half of Zane's ORIGINAL heart while Zane is still fully powered with his new one
you fool, Zane's core is powered by the most powerful energy source of all. Glorpshplit plot convenience
I think its just tech
I’m looking to deep into this but if the original Zane was build like at least 30-20 years before the show started would that mean Zane could possibly be made of toxic and dangerous materials like lead, mercury or asbestos. We aren’t sure how old he was so there’s possibly that he was made before certain health and safety regulations were put in.
My theory: Zane power source is allspark fragment remember when in Transformers Animated the allspark exploded on million fragments? That means one of the fragments could be found by Doctor Jullien and used to power him up or the fragment just fly into Zane and yeah Ninjago and Transformers Animated is one of the best or even the best shows I watched as a kid
My theory is that glowing energy sources is Zane’s chi and I’m not talking about the stuff from chima in Chinese mythology chi is the they that goes through living things so when Zane have half to Pixel she became alive to and with a soul. And after the technology has interacted with it they do have a soul permanently, either that or source dragon power.
now what if his core is some sort of concentrated cronosteal? I literally just got this idea cause you mentioned it's a metal with the element of ice in it. my claim doesn't really change much however it does kinda add more logic to your conclusion, honestly.
Edit: I really like the idea that pixal is somewhere waitring for zane for resisitate her
Hey kitten,
If you ever want to get a quick video out, I would watch a video of you ranking each of the ninja - including arron and sorra, [+wu, garmadon, hirumi, skylar, morrow, and unagami if you want to get spicy] on their orphan-ness.
I think Pixal is the least degree of orphan because her father has never been effectively dead over her ‘upbringing’. After that either cole or jay, because jay was adopted shortly after birth by a full family but cole is actually lost his mother-the mother that was his mom mother and blood mother. Also, cole lost his mother when he was young, jay was adopted when he was even younger, but didn’t find out until he was older. Zane thought he was an orphan all is life, before remembering watching his dad die, after wich he found out his dad was alive, and then his dad died again for real this time. So Zane’s only parent died twice, wich in some ways is like 200% orpanness but is also 0% orphannes because zane was old enough to care for himself, mentally and chronologically. Poor Lloyd was dropped off at a boarding school and abandoned by both his parents, sounds like for years. And Kai and Nya we know were actually totally on their own for years- but their parents were alive the whole time. Arron can’t find his parents and grew up essentially without them, and sora disowned hers and also grew up essentially without them, but they are 100% alive and she literally named herself orphan.
Its just so wild to me that they’re all like part-orphans, Yet the only 100% confirmed dead parents are jay’s birth dad, Zane’s dad and cole’s mom (grmadon has come back too often for me to say hes 100%) but the only one who seemingly grew up with parents are those same ninja! (Other than pixal, although it’s debatable as to if she ‘grew up’ at all)
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Guess I’m third
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My personal headcanon is that the power source can regenerate itself. I mean, we already don’t understand it, so why not throw another complication into the works? I’m sure it could be disproven, but it seems like the simplest solution.
Maybe Zane's powers were the friends he made along the way?
Well there was a three or two year gap of s2 and 3 so and they were going into a futuristic take on ninjago city so between those times they might of replaced his steampunk look to a icy powered source technical design
elemental power giving ai sentience also explains why cryptor and the other nindroids have sentience and even souls since they were were connected to the overlord who also had power so thats why at least cryptor and mindoid had personalities and even loyalty to the overlord the only one that break this rule is unagami (and everyone else in prime empire) but maybe there is answer somewhere
Excellent, thank you
i always thought the core was powered by elemental power. before the previous ice master showed up he was powered by something normal, maybe he needed to plug in or something and then the ice master gave him powers and the power source became powered by the element (instead of the other way around). besides that i think your final theory is very well made!
And it could actually tie into how the elemental master of ice before Zane passed on his power, maybe he used chronosteel which he knew could hold the power as seen in battle for all of time (that was the top comment, not my own theory)
That reminds me of the scrapped concept of Prime Empire being powered by Jay's mom. Your theory would explain why or how Unagami even became sentient, it's because he's powered by the elemental power of lightning.
18:20 but Pixel was the holder by that time, so can you explain it some more and sorry for commenting so much.
I always got the theory that it’s an ice shard powered with elemental energy that the master of ice when meeting Zane knowing his time was going to end he used his last remaining power force to make an ice shard crawl with all of his elemental power But now this is getting deep I think it also gave him things he wasn’t supposed to have it gave him a part of himself of the master of ice giving him human emotion and everything that why he’s emotion are so real and we also saw him cry self if it don’t maked sens it’s beceaus it gave him a part of humanity comming from the master of ice but also some spiritual skills master of ice learned that should explain WHY HE HAD VISION WHEN THERE WAS NO REASON FOR HIM TO HAVE it’s beceaus he gained the spiritual skills of master of ice
Can u make a video ranking all the Lego Ninjago seasons?
Think of it as in transformers. Optimus matrix is never seen in the original show, but is seen in tge movie. Its thier just behind tge wires.
It's allspark fragment from Animated but technically you are right because on the end of Animated Optimus Prime haved allspark as a matrix of leadership so yea we are both right
My new theory is that is was dragon energy. Especially since chima chi is very similar I dragon energy
Yhea, it being its elemental power makes the most sense and its the most obvius, but id like to think its a nuclear bomb because its funny
Is it possible with the help of the half of his power source to regenerate and recreate a new or different part. However, it produces INFINITE ENERGY, which needs time to regenerate, as we saw in the episode with the rocket. In my opinion, this is the most logical theory and if it is true everything will fall into place.
I accept the chi one cause i will keep chima alive as long as possible.
Rebooted was a weird season... So many questions..
May their mimic his power source how of it function not elemental powers
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Maybe tech elemental master upgrade Zane girlfriend
W VIDEO
(Idk if i wasted time watching your 4 hour and 30 min video on the misogynistic side of ninjago)
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not like it was a bad video just it's a show about lego's and here we are (: