600hp Porsche 964 Turbo - First drive and bad news
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2022
- First drive of my highly modified 964 Turbo that's aiming for 600hp. & some bad news as we find the crank seal is leaking so the gearbox has to come off again before we can get the car mapped.
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Its pretty much an Intercooler with a engine attached to it.. Good job guys!
Great fun to see the machining work to get the rear disc sorted! Good work, as always
Thanks 👍
They way you laugh at the plug to your own business is gold! Great content and loving the builds!
so in love with this car, love that the little japanese lady is still in the car 🙂
Good work man! Great seeing that this beast is coming back together.
Getting a lip seal to work properly is not easy and I’ve seen so many examples of just doing it again resolving the issue.
The exterior of the car is amazing but what impresses me the most is the fittings and engineering.
I've installed crank seals both ways (flush and 1 mil in) and achieved satisfactory results with both methods. I don't think you can go wrong with either.
The details make the car. My tuner took a whole day getting my exhaust tip to fit perfectly with the bumper like stock. I look at it every time i walk by and it makes me happy every single time.
Check the crankcase isn’t in positive pressure, this will case the crank seals to leak. Not sure what the breather systems is like on this but if you can use a vacuum crank case breather like on 997 GT3’s it may help elevate the seal weeping problem.
Always great to see the 964 and the Lathe. Glad the bad news weren't serious
The crank seal theory is a good one - if it has worn, even to very slight tolerances with the position of the previous seal you fitted, and the new one is at ever so slight a different depth, it's definitely worth refitting a new seal to the position you had previously. Reminds me that I need to change the front seal on mine at some point....
Hot rod 964 turbos; hell yes.
your car, your work an toil, which kinda skews, an distorts ownership, but guys, that is one extraordinary, an exceptionally desirable motor, no doubts - none
That’s my favourite of all the cars you have… been looking forward to this..
Impresssive work, very inspirational - particularly seeing your approach to problem solving. Thanks for sharing!
Cheers 👍
Mad skills, Phil. Awesome. Thanks
Best mechanical team on youtube! Great content guys! Keep up the good work. Greetings from Romania!
Thanks man 👍
Beautiful work. Great solutions for the brakes and rotors.
Cheers 👍
Make some stainless steel spacers on the rear PCCB’s… the bells are stainless and this dissimilar material combination with the aluminum makes it reactive especially as the is carbon steel components there as well.
Use Permatex aluminum antiseize past on the backs of the wheels if the hub area isn’t painted or you can end up with cold welded wheels stuck on the car and bad pitting👍
I’ve done the seal trick many times on bike output shafts , good shout there 👍
I love how you stance your cars...
Loving the content guys keep it up
Attention to detail unbelievable amazing
Hi fellas first one yeh cars looking the mutts love the work you both do as you explain as you go what a beast she is gets better with every mod ✌️👏👏👍🏻
Always make sure you have a good seal between the spoiler and the intercooler - MUCH more efficient at sending air in the correct direction on these. Have a safe and nice day all. CHEERS from AUSTRALIA.
Yeah, it's on the list of jobs to seal it to the decklid 👍
Love the functional and tasteful mods.
Phil builds some of the cleanest cars out there, his attention to detail is bordering on ocd 🤣🤣
Nice job fitting those disks 👌🏻
You’ve the patience of a saint Phil
Gonna hit the like button even before watching 👍
Great episode. I hear ya on the rear main install. Feeling better than wha the book tells ya.
It's always worth trying something simple before you dig in and start the serious work, fingers crossed that crank seal holds 🤞🤞
Great Progress, liked the solution for the brakes. Please, do another V10 Vid :D
Phil and J there the men 😜👍
one of the best looking cars ive ever seen.
Cheers 👍
Sounds great
A great YT vid as always. If you have a spare set of belts and suspect belt screech. It may be worth spraying some silicone spray to diagnose the culprit. 👍🏻s up again.
Arrrgh crank seal leak......happy you got it sorted...but wait what's this? An aicon conversion to be fitted........aaarrgghhh! again... What a lot of work but hey it's my favourite car of yours. 😀
Just love this car fantastic attention to detail
Thanks
Love this car👍👍👍looks amazing sounds mega just awesome
Cheers 👍
This thing is beautiful!
Cheers
I bloody love this car!!!!!!!
me too!
That red Tesla’s sounded sweet 👍
😂
Pad Keeper Phil, got 1 on my 964 hold the Insolation in place
I love all the machining it takes to make all this stuff work, it's so satisfying watching parts getting modified/made on a lathe
That 964 is the bees knees.
Cheers
Check the clearance between the fan and housing.
Love this car best looking 964 iv ever seen and I need to know the name of the intro tune
The ever tricky process of seating rear main properly. But yes, can always see the coloring difference where previous seal has sat on crank snout.
Nicest Porsche ive ever seen in my whole life love every square inch of it..sublime🦾🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
So Sick.
Cheers 👍
😈😈😈just joined your page , happy to be here 😈😈😈😈
26:50 your tea water has boiled, time to turn the 6cyl heater off
Love these videos. What's the music from? The one during the lathe footage etc. Thanks
Love the video.
Out of curiosity how do you know how much meat you can take off a disc on the back? See the same sometimes on alloy wheels to change the stance a bit.
This was simple as it was a non structural part. Taking meat off the back of a wheel is difficult. It depends on how thick that section is & how deep the wheel bolt tapers were drilled.
26:41 that would make me stay up for weeks... sounds like a baring idek
This week kids, uncle Phil shows you how to do the right thing the wrong way...
Hitting that nice door of the jack arm. I mind a place that done that and damaged my door.
Good job on the brakes engineer…
Its been awhile since I've watched the PCCB setup for the front so perhaps you covered it then but I'm curious why you didn't opt for the 997 PCCB calipers over the 991s. Those have a more traditional bracket arraignment over the more vehicle specialized mounting of the 991 caliper.
Either way, super epic to see car this make such progress!
It was a parts availability thing. I would have liked a complete set of 997 GT3 PCCB, but this worked out fine. I do still want a full set of 997 GT3 PCCB if anyone knows of a set.
Heat shield looks neat fair play have you considered wrapping the manifold in the heatshield stuff expensive but works great I'm told
I have 👍
@@driftworks worth the money? As its something I am considering
Tidy 👌🏻
that porsche screams exactly like a 4 year old in tesco
How on earth can a car look better then that I don’t know
The more I see your 964 the more I feel I’m just going to keep saving and go for a 993.
Benchooord 😎😎😎
Car is amazing and great video! I have this same noise in my car 911g model with m64 engine in it. It came suddenly and i locate it in fan/alternator area. I run the engine without belts (cool engine) short period and the noise was gone. I’m also changing bearings for alternator and cooling fan. Will see is it quiet or not😁
Interesting that you've run it without belts and it's gone. We thought we'd eliminated belts as a possibility, but I have today seen some slight wear on the main 6 rib belt that may be the cause of the noise.
@@driftworks i change all bearings and noise was still there. Then i change belt snap detector and that was the noisy one.🥴👍🏻
Heat shielding looks great, what did you use or it? Looking for something I can wrap my down pipe with to protect the cv boot.
It's called Nimbus - Nimbus Motorsport make I think.
If struggling with crank seal, give lee lockwood a call guys ,he has his own youtube channel
Great video.
Curious how the modified 964 Turbo compares to the stockish GT3 from a driver's standpoint? Which do you think would lap a road course faster?
The GT3 is a vastly superior drivers car. The Turbo is more of the scary type of fun to drive.
@@driftworks I know exactly what you mean. I swapped a 525 HP Chevy LS3 into a Datsun 260Z, and that along with high end suspension and brake mods, I thought would make the perfect track day weapon. Well, as it turns out I am too scared of it to drive it at more than about 8/10ths. I'm sure a really skilled driver could make it lap fast, but I can't.
964"s are underrated.
Do you mean alongside 993s?
@@driftworks It's said that 993's are the pinnacle of the air cooled. Seeing a 964 in person might change a few minds.
That noise ain't nothing to do with the power steering pump phil is it or did you change that wit the engine build 🤔 just a thought great vid as always guys 964 looking ready to gooo
No power steering back there any more. Cheers 👍
Regards the noise, have you got a v belt spacer shim on the outside of the two part pulley too? With no shims behind the locking nut it’ll make a right racket as it doesn’t clamp properly.
The Vbelt pulley is held on/together with three allen key bolts & they are tight. The pulley for the alternator is separate.
@@driftworks Sorry I meant the fan/alternator belt. The OE spacers (as you will know) go between the two parts of the pulley to set the belt tension. But if you haven’t got at least one spacer on the outside (right behind the nut) even though it’s ‘tight’ it won’t be and will make a racket. But I’m assuming that’s all out the window with your setup then?
Cracking car.
sounds like a serpentine belt tensioner pulley wheel
That's all brand new & a different design to before. Yet it still does it. I think it's air we're hearing.
I couldn’t find anything under flat six products. Would like to get one for my 993.
I got it off Ebay. If you're on IG speak to 993andy.
It’s probably got loads of blow by until the new piston rings bed in and they may have helped it leak.
Maybe you need more crankcase ventilation ?
No. It would be really worn to have that much blow by
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Or brand new ?
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I’ve never in my 30 years being a tech, seen a new engine with blow by. Not once.
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Not even before the rings have bedded in , just totally sealed straight away ?
I thought you’d have crank case pressure until the rings have at least seated . . ?
No, that's not a thing that happens.
Why did you not replace the saggy sound ending foam for a new piece, considering the engine was out?
Could that squeal be because the belt isn't perfectly level and straight?
I think it means the kettle's boiled
Have you checked the fan to cowling clearance? It sounds like metal on metal
Yeah, it's all good.
Would you like any engine with that intercooler sir?
what about a vacuum leak - given you also struggled to get the idle down initially?
All been tested. We smoke tested.
I had the sound when my belt was too tight. Used some shims and was okay..
Good info thanks. I may try adding another shim.
Phil that has to be the fan bearings right. I know it’s new but could be doa right?
As mentioned in the vid, we replaced it. It's not that unfortunately.
R.W.B Rough World Birmingham
The whistling sounds like air escaping travelling through a duct causing harmonics, any leakages fan ducting?
Yep, it's like one of the plastic shrouds has turned into a reed.
Regarding the squeaking noise there's a reason they call them a porka because they squeal like a little piggy
The screeching sounds a bit like idle control valve noise?
Yeah similar, it doesn't have one.
I noticed what looked like a little chunk out of that rear disc?
Yeah, they're out of a Porsche dealer skip I imagine. Totally fine for my use.
I had a squeal like that and it turned out to be a questionable alternator.
Hey. whats up with the E46 M3 V10 rebuild videos?
Nothing happens with that car while my other cars need attention. That was the rule I set myself when deciding whether to buy it back or not as I already had too many projects. There may be something on it later this year, but no promises.
Aircooled head temps can be up to 450f
That’s a danger zone but 350 to 375 cruising is common.
Cheers 👍
Contact thermomet good heat protection products
front wheels on the wrong sides.........directional tyres pointing backwards
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Get some new Denso Racing Spark Plugs 😆 😆 😆 😆
It had new IW24 on the dyno. No point putting new plugs in until it's running properly.
@@driftworks Yea,The Denso Racing Version is Good,Heck id even Try the TT Irridium. I think it would be Much Better.
Phil- it's " bwacket", not bracket.
Good job on this but IMO any air cooled 911 with upgraded exhausts that sounds like JDM cars is not my cup of tea. The best upgraded exhaust for these cars is when it sounds like actual 964/993 Race cars!
You should give some thought about employing a young tech whiz-kid to do all your filming / editing / media ect... with 2/3 videos per week, i could definitely see your channel exploding to over 500k subs easily!
We've thought about it but it wouldn't work as I work on the cars when I have time away from real work. They'd be twiddling thumbs a lot of the time.
Is that japanese female voice a tollboth device? If so, do you intended to keep it?
It is & I do.
Can the sound come from fan hitting it's housing? Or new bearing shot, or belt too tight? These are just guesses with zero knowledge or expertise.
All those things have been checked, so not daft suggestions.
How the fuck do you get a car like this over the MOT? Do you just walk in and hand everyone a fistful of hundred pound notes?
What do you think wouldn't pass an MOT? Don't forget it's a 30 year old car.
As long as it meets the emissions levels of the engine as set at the time of production I don't see it being a problem - remember that @Driftworks now has a much more modern EFI system with electronically controlled injectors, a far more complex wideband O2 sensor setup etc... I'd be willing to bet that at least one of the maps available on his ECU is far, far more efficient running than the ancient mechanical Bosch injection system and archaic discrete control-module based system of the original setup. Other than that, as long as the lights work, suspension and brakes are up to scratch and the car is structurally sound, I don't see what the problem is. Old cars are not subject to the test parameters of current vehicles.