Been on the compressor stations. We do a lot of field commissioning with our company. I've seen, and heard an ESD. It's the loudest thing I've ever heard in my life. This video only represents a small fraction of how loud it actually is.
This just happened where i live this week. The residents nearby had no idea what was going on. Their houses filled up with gas odor and they think they have hearing damage. Some want to move now. Must suck having that near your house. It is tenessee gases pipeline.
@Rick James There's another comment which said this is an emergency test and what's emitted during tests are not necessarily the actual combustible gas. Please confirm is this true?? I understand if during emergency, the crew will do that to save a plant from exploding and killing workers. But you are sayin this is occures everyday, several times!! That's terrible. Specially if it's within close proximity to residential properties. I can't believe that's true. Even in Texas, people would not allow that. Or maybe houses are very far away. Please inform on the facts. (BTW, I'm no treehugger. I love natural gas.
Do you happen to know how much gas was emitted in this 1 min video? Also, is there some way to collect and use the gas instead of wasting it in the atmosphere?
This was an ESD test. Not sure on gas loss. Some ESD tests can be preformed with blind flanges over the vents to prevent gas loss. The whole purpose of an ESD is to evacuate all gas in a station as quickly as possible. There are ways to prevent gas loss in other pipeline blow down situations but it still has to be cost effective.
Shaun Dobbie Far too much pressure to flare off in an emergency decompression situation. Essentially the gas is moving way to fast to stay lit in a flare stack. Or is there something you know in your expert opinion that I don't after working for twenty years in midstream operations?
I used to dive by one of these. When my mom was a kid they actually had to close the highway for a while because they had to dump a bunch of gas. I never witnessed that but did drive through the intense smell of gas a few times. Was thankful I didn't blow up. I know natural gas is lighter than air, what about the odorant?
1978garfield A compressor station blowdown releases millions of cubic feet of untreated natural gas into the air. The following 10 carcingogens are released during a blowdown: 1,3-butadiene, acetaldehyde, Acrolein, benzene, ethylbenzene, formaldehyde, naphthalene, propylene oxide, toluene, and xylenes. Energy companies like to downplay the amounts that will be released, but these chemicals should not be blown into communities.
Hey, there's a wikipedia page about pipeline blowdowns producing shock diamonds that's in need of a citation. This seems to at least provide visual evidence that it happens at both 0:18 and 0:55 Mind if I grab a screenshot from either timestamp for use on the Shock Diamond wikipedia page, with attribution? If so, what license from the Wikipedia File Copyright Tags page can I use? (hoping for Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 4.0, but up to you)
They used to tell us it was less than 118 db at 5'. Then they measured it. The meters maxed out at at 25'. Then the company went oh crap. I was in a remote location and performed a lot of blowdowns with a manual operated valves with my head next to an 8" riser. I had 2 OSHA recordable hearing losses within a couple years. I had co-workers who also had OSHA recordable losses. I received a nice big fat payout equivalent to the cost of one hearing aid. I have around a 90% hearing loss and 65% verbal recognition.
@@supertyfon1736 yes it does. Check out some of my other videos and you can see some of the situations we were in when we had to blow sections of pipeline down.
Matt Benesch we can blind flange for ESD tests but most locations don't. We can also use re compression for large scale pipeline blowdowns so we only vent small amounts of gas but it has to be cost effective. During emergency situations I don't think there would be away not to release it into the atmosphere.
They plan on putting a 30" hi pressure line in the town I live in. With a pump station with 3 turbines. Pipe line representatives said they would blow down yearly for inspection. I would hope they use a recompression system.
The stations are regulated by FERC and have to abide by there regulations. The station will vent more than once a year though. Most ESD tests are annually but each time a turbine is started gas will vent (small amount). Most maintenance will require venting gas then purging and packing. Any pipeline blowdowns, purging, and packing will probably be done from the station. If it is in a highly populated area they will probably install silencers on the vent stacks permanently. Natural gas is lighter than air so it tends to go up in the atmosphere before it is noticed. Scrubber dumps will vent regularly. So you would be able to smell the hydro carbons if the wind is right. I have never heard of re compression system for an ESD test. They can blind flange for the test and not vent gas. There are lots of safety devices in the station that protect the station that can trigger an ESD. I would guess it will vent a few times a year until the bugs are worked out. If they install pigging facilities and run pigs regularly they will have to blowdown the barrels and pack and purge the barrel for each pig sent or received. Depending on the pigs used and frequency they may run around 4-5 pigs per pig run. Gauge pig, Cleaning pig, MLF, and a Smart pig. I would not like a 30" line let alone any line going in near me if I lived in a wet region that has mud slides. West Virginia and Pennsylvania have experienced a high volume of ruptures, some don't even make the news. They are building like crazy back there. The new gathering facilities and lines create some bad blood between land owners/public and the companies. Roads that didn't have much traffic now have 24/7 traffic. New flares, plant after plant, new line after new line, smells, noise, and property values are all thing to consider. If it is a long transmission line with a station out in the middle of no where with nice stable ground I wouldn't be to concerned. If it is a station that will be tied in with liquid lines, gathering, processing, and possibility of expansion I wouldn't like it. But we all have to think about supply and demand. Long winded sorry
I'm actually east of albany ny ground is stable but we have heavy frost and they're only go 3ft down all of locals know we get frost beyond 3ft yearly. I appreciate your information.
aren't you glad you don't live next to that communities do all those gases all that noise phew makes solar panels look absolutely quiet right? but off course they are quiet anyway and do not emit pollution into the atmosphere mmm so....
Solar panels? Really? Your gonna need a lot of panels and some hefty upgrading to your power grids in order to produce as much energy as a pipeline. To switch every natural gas user over to electric would be a interesting concept in it's self. Until you cut out every thing in your life that is made from fossil fuels... then you are part of the problem. It's all about supply and demand.
One thing is for certain, electric motors would rip a diesel engine into pieces like it was nothing. Much more powerful, but of course when SHTF and you have no power, then you are SOL. So it's good that you guys use engines to pump the natural gas fuel instead of electric motors so people can still have heat when power goes out unlike California requires pump stations to be electric.
@@EETechs There are some compressor stations that use electric motors. The peak demands on start up are crazy. A lot of power that heads to CA is produced by Natural gas fired powerplants.
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the speed of that blow is beyond sound barrier... cool
Been on the compressor stations. We do a lot of field commissioning with our company. I've seen, and heard an ESD. It's the loudest thing I've ever heard in my life. This video only represents a small fraction of how loud it actually is.
129 db at 50 ft i'm guessing.
@@supertyfon1736that isn’t too loud tornado sirens get much louder than that
@@soulsweeper1630 Fricking loud, standard db measuring is done under 5ft to a soundsource.
Really interesting that you can see shock diamonds!
Wow! I've never seen shock diamonds in a cold jet! Interesting.
Damn those shock diamonds are insane
Eastern Oregon. It was a scheduled ESD.
Good video. What is this DLP?
Thanks.
I think they blew through five years worth of emissions.
Nah
This just happened where i live this week. The residents nearby had no idea what was going on. Their houses filled up with gas odor and they think they have hearing damage. Some want to move now. Must suck having that near your house. It is tenessee gases pipeline.
Every one is a sensitive sally.
@Rick James There's another comment which said this is an emergency test and what's emitted during tests are not necessarily the actual combustible gas. Please confirm is this true??
I understand if during emergency, the crew will do that to save a plant from exploding and killing workers. But you are sayin this is occures everyday, several times!! That's terrible. Specially if it's within close proximity to residential properties. I can't believe that's true. Even in Texas, people would not allow that. Or maybe houses are very far away. Please inform on the facts. (BTW, I'm no treehugger. I love natural gas.
Do you happen to know how much gas was emitted in this 1 min video? Also, is there some way to collect and use the gas instead of wasting it in the atmosphere?
This was an ESD test. Not sure on gas loss. Some ESD tests can be preformed with blind flanges over the vents to prevent gas loss. The whole purpose of an ESD is to evacuate all gas in a station as quickly as possible. There are ways to prevent gas loss in other pipeline blow down situations but it still has to be cost effective.
I see. As usual, it's all about the money :)
@@k1rv0lak Probably. It's more than a 1 month income of the plant manager there.
They could at least light the gas as it burns to reduce the greenhouse effect.
No, they couldn't.
yes the could, using an ignition source.
Shaun Dobbie Far too much pressure to flare off in an emergency decompression situation.
Essentially the gas is moving way to fast to stay lit in a flare stack.
Or is there something you know in your expert opinion that I don't after working for twenty years in midstream operations?
Kelly H
Yes, you fail to understand that my logic is undeniable.
Shaun Dobbie Clearly.
My apologies I didn't know.
and on that day, we learned why there were no smoking signs all around that area.
I used to dive by one of these.
When my mom was a kid they actually had to close the highway for a while because they had to dump a bunch of gas.
I never witnessed that but did drive through the intense smell of gas a few times.
Was thankful I didn't blow up.
I know natural gas is lighter than air, what about the odorant?
1978garfield A compressor station blowdown releases millions of cubic feet of untreated natural gas into the air. The following 10 carcingogens are released during a blowdown: 1,3-butadiene, acetaldehyde, Acrolein, benzene, ethylbenzene, formaldehyde, naphthalene, propylene oxide, toluene, and xylenes. Energy companies like to downplay the amounts that will be released, but these chemicals should not be blown into communities.
@@tammyrose9571 would you rather the entire plant blow up instead? ESD is used to vent all gas from the compressor station as quickly as possible
You know, another way to stop greenhouse gas emissions is if everyone stopped farting so much!
I'm not willing to stop just yet. We need to save our farts. We could run engines off of the metane.
I don´t have any Idea whats going on but the mountain view is niceeee.
Word.
Where is this compressor station? And what kind of engines does it use?
Eastern Oregon. Recips, Coopers.
Where is this station?
Eastern Oregon.
psi?
About 800 on this one.
Preparing for liftoff in T-,minus: 3..2..1
Ahh... reminds me of the good old days working on the Nord Stream....
Jesus! Save us!
That was probably enough gas to power a fair sized town for a month
Quite a bit more than that.
Hey, there's a wikipedia page about pipeline blowdowns producing shock diamonds that's in need of a citation. This seems to at least provide visual evidence that it happens at both 0:18 and 0:55
Mind if I grab a screenshot from either timestamp for use on the Shock Diamond wikipedia page, with attribution? If so, what license from the Wikipedia File Copyright Tags page can I use? (hoping for Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 4.0, but up to you)
Dude just grab a screenshot and post it lmao
Yeah. Check out my other videos for some big shock diamonds.
Anyone got a light?
Gas control quick as fuck rerouting the low pressure
It was a station ESD. There was no effect on gas control.
Why they shut down?
ESD test.
That was 129 db at 50 ft loud i bet.
They used to tell us it was less than 118 db at 5'. Then they measured it. The meters maxed out at at 25'. Then the company went oh crap. I was in a remote location and performed a lot of blowdowns with a manual operated valves with my head next to an 8" riser. I had 2 OSHA recordable hearing losses within a couple years. I had co-workers who also had OSHA recordable losses. I received a nice big fat payout equivalent to the cost of one hearing aid. I have around a 90% hearing loss and 65% verbal recognition.
@@pipeliner3906 Wow 90% hearing loss and 65% verbal recognition that must suck.
@@supertyfon1736 yes it does. Check out some of my other videos and you can see some of the situations we were in when we had to blow sections of pipeline down.
Geez!
And that's good for the environment?
Matt Benesch Probably not.
Matt Benesch we can blind flange for ESD tests but most locations don't. We can also use re compression for large scale pipeline blowdowns so we only vent small amounts of gas but it has to be cost effective. During emergency situations I don't think there would be away not to release it into the atmosphere.
They plan on putting a 30" hi pressure line in the town I live in. With a pump station with 3 turbines. Pipe line representatives said they would blow down yearly for inspection. I would hope they use a recompression system.
The stations are regulated by FERC and have to abide by there regulations. The station will vent more than once a year though. Most ESD tests are annually but each time a turbine is started gas will vent (small amount). Most maintenance will require venting gas then purging and packing. Any pipeline blowdowns, purging, and packing will probably be done from the station. If it is in a highly populated area they will probably install silencers on the vent stacks permanently. Natural gas is lighter than air so it tends to go up in the atmosphere before it is noticed. Scrubber dumps will vent regularly. So you would be able to smell the hydro carbons if the wind is right. I have never heard of re compression system for an ESD test. They can blind flange for the test and not vent gas. There are lots of safety devices in the station that protect the station that can trigger an ESD. I would guess it will vent a few times a year until the bugs are worked out. If they install pigging facilities and run pigs regularly they will have to blowdown the barrels and pack and purge the barrel for each pig sent or received. Depending on the pigs used and frequency they may run around 4-5 pigs per pig run. Gauge pig, Cleaning pig, MLF, and a Smart pig. I would not like a 30" line let alone any line going in near me if I lived in a wet region that has mud slides. West Virginia and Pennsylvania have experienced a high volume of ruptures, some don't even make the news. They are building like crazy back there. The new gathering facilities and lines create some bad blood between land owners/public and the companies. Roads that didn't have much traffic now have 24/7 traffic. New flares, plant after plant, new line after new line, smells, noise, and property values are all thing to consider. If it is a long transmission line with a station out in the middle of no where with nice stable ground I wouldn't be to concerned. If it is a station that will be tied in with liquid lines, gathering, processing, and possibility of expansion I wouldn't like it. But we all have to think about supply and demand. Long winded sorry
I'm actually east of albany ny ground is stable but we have heavy frost and they're only go 3ft down all of locals know we get frost beyond 3ft yearly. I appreciate your information.
Heavy pollution man
Seems like a waste of gas
Kinda. They could blind flange the ESD stacks for the test.
That's really cool
aren't you glad you don't live next to that communities do all those gases all that noise phew makes solar panels look absolutely quiet right? but off course they are quiet anyway and do not emit pollution into the atmosphere mmm so....
Solar panels? Really? Your gonna need a lot of panels and some hefty upgrading to your power grids in order to produce as much energy as a pipeline. To switch every natural gas user over to electric would be a interesting concept in it's self. Until you cut out every thing in your life that is made from fossil fuels... then you are part of the problem. It's all about supply and demand.
One thing is for certain, electric motors would rip a diesel engine into pieces like it was nothing. Much more powerful, but of course when SHTF and you have no power, then you are SOL. So it's good that you guys use engines to pump the natural gas fuel instead of electric motors so people can still have heat when power goes out unlike California requires pump stations to be electric.
@@EETechs There are some compressor stations that use electric motors. The peak demands on start up are crazy. A lot of power that heads to CA is produced by Natural gas fired powerplants.
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Poison
Yes. Please stop contributing to it. Almost every thing is made with or fueled by natural gas or natural gas byproducts including power.
OMG
We're all gonna die.
Everyone dies. At least we get to watch this video before we pass on.
Anyone got a light?
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