Hey, thanks for the great rundown! Couple of comments I'd like to add: 1. Character section for the time being only works with Classic oscillator (and it's global, so all Classic oscillators in both scenes will take on that setting). We want to make this setting per oscillator and for all oscillator types in one of future versions of Surge. 2. The Square/Sawtooth presets for Classic oscillator were always there, even before Surge was open-sourced. It's basically a shortcut so that people can start straight up with a square or a saw without the need to figure out that you need to move the Shape slider to get one or the other. 3. The Map to Controller or Key, Add Automation Lane etc options are so-called VST3 host-side added menu options. Not all DAWs have these or support this VST3 capability, and different DAWs will have different options here (compare Bitwig vs FL vs Reaper for example). AU plugin doesn't have this option at all. 4. Right-click anywhere is how Surge rolls! A bunch of parameters have additional options there. For example, in Sine or FM oscillators, you can right-click Feedback to get an extended range which greatly increases the tonal palette you can achieve. 5. Noise color parameter is more like highpass in the upper half, lowpass in the lower half. :) 6. Inter-oscillator FM will work with all oscillator types that are not BLIT-based (a type of band-limiting technique) - so this includes Window, Sine, FM2, FM3. Classic, Wavetable and S&H Noise are out. You can even use audio in as a FM modulator, but won't work as FM carrier. 7. Analog envelope type basically emulates a charging or discharging capacitor, which is how actual analog envelopes were made. Has a different curve than any of those you get in Digital mode, which are just regular linear/quadratic/cubic, mathematically perfect. 8. MSEG currently has a limit of 128 nodes, so can't exactly have ANY number of points that you want :)
@@EvilDragon666 Thank you Mario Can you coding something like korg moss technology "reed and bowed oscillators" I don't know why there is no any vsti with this wonderful technology 🙄
@@GalantGoStudio We have added a "String" oscillator to Surge 1.9, which gets you plucked and bowed string sounds. And of course, there are plenty of plugins that do this. Anything that has a comb filter or two with some waveshaping, filtering and oscillators/exciters will do. Plenty of such synths... It will not sound EXACTLY like MOSS. But it's the same idea.
Excellent detailed walkthrough and explanation. Surge is a powerhouse, even more so with the new XT. They just keep adding great stuff and improving the workflow. Surge and Vital are pretty much the best freebies out there right now IMO. Cheers man
I am normally an "analog conservative" but I'm getting addicted to Surge....How is that possible ? My congratulations to the designers of this wonderful sounding piece of work with its ideal user interface ! I love it and I use it a lot and it mixes well with other instruments even acoustic.....
This synth is so deceptively quiet and lame on the outset. Start tweaking things... the the UX just opens up? BigTime! Watch how by choosing particular modes, new controls just show up to be tweaked/tortured.
Full agreement on all comments as a. novice just getting my head around the software which is unbelievably free....good tutorials ...fun all the way...thanks to uploaders for doing this
this is madness, thanks so much for all your hard work on this project. ive just bought a loopstation which arrved about an hour ago so im going to be some time!! but im diving into this synth later today i cant wait. top man!
Thanks for the "manual", I play a lot with Surge and think it's a genius synth VST. And it works fine with Cakewalk by Bandlab (also free and very good by the way) Thank you very much and hope you make another video with Surge Greetings MiKa
Surge is a beast. Seriously I think Phaseplant is the only synth that surpasses it only a bit. Phaseplant also costs more than 1000$. Congrats to the creators
Thanks so much for sharing this man. I just picked this up and this was an exceptionally helpful. Question, is there a reason I would want to lower polyphony in Surge? does it affect memory use?
Hey thanks! There are a couple of reasons! The main one is if you have a bunch of chords with long release times on a few tracks, you may want to have them cut eachother off at a certain point so your CPU doesn't die with thousands of overlapping unison voices. Some people like to restrict voice count to sort of emulate the behavior of certain hardware :)
@@unclespooky it does affect your CPU usage. If you have a patch that has reached high cpu you might want to take down polyphony from 16 to 2, you will thank me later.
@@Uvisir unless I was playing pads or something. that would affect the amount of notes in the chord, but I get you and it's a great shout. It's not something you notice right away simply by asking why the heck so much usage? Particularly if you're as rusty as me. It's a good thing to make a note to keep an eye on. thanks for the FYI
You mean they've had a comprehensive mseg the WHOLE TIME and don't include it? I really wish they would abandon whatever line of thought it is, that has led them to this conclusion. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@The_Mercian The MSEG was added in the latest update by the open source team! not by the original dev! Looks like the MSEG is very inspired bu FL Studios way of doing them! Which hopefully we see from bitwig too!
Thank you so much for the Tutorial man!!! I want to ask if Surge has a "velocity amount slider" for the filters? Or the only way to do that is manually using the modulation section? Thanks again
Is this available on Linux too? My god, this looks so powerful, especially when used with the best DAW ever too, Bitwig :D EDIT: I just seen that is is, as VST3. I'm so happy right now!... Thank you for this video Garron!
some sounds dont stop playing on its own, is there a way to stop that? i just can't find that setting... just some sounds, most of them get triggered by the keyboard normally but some just dont stop playing..... any tips ?
Hi thank you for the tutorial 🙏🏻 just one question, when I do my own wavetables Surge automatically skew the audio file from A to B and don’t stay on one frame. Do you have an idea how I make it stay on the same frame ? Thx 😊
Downloaded just like everyone else. Mine the only one that makes no sound doing anything. Loaded through ableton can’t get single sound to come through speakers. Wanted to try to get into music but maybe this is my cue to not… every video I watch on this sound happens immediately and nothing I adjust or move or click makes anything happen
is there any known problems running in win 10 ?? i get unwanted note hold. it happens randomly youll hit a note and it will hold for no reason. a few more strikes of the same key can often stop it but not always. amazing synth i just cant play it in its current form.
Every synth doesn’t have to have every feature. I still consider this synth to be one of the best available. Especially considering some of the stuff the team are adding this month!
@@GarronsMusic For me, however, too many functions are missing to use or recommend Surge in 2021. There are currently much better alternatives with a better user interface
Is amazing this upgrade of the vst, and nice tutorial, one of the best by free.... i am making tracks with it.... check it out at my prooooofff. ..... XD ..... just kidding, anyway a good tutorial. the synth offers a basic tutorial in the skins sections too. Thumbs up .
@@GarronsMusic well... if not explaning the basic stuff such as what's timbre, frequency and more natural qualities of the sound, as well, the types of waves, and why they sound like they do, etc; you don't need an hour.
I watched for the full hour and found the pacing perfect and appreciated the comprehensiveness. I paused a few times too to try things out. When I first opened Surge I didn't have a clue how everything fit together. And voila! just after a single hour I have a pretty clear understanding of Surge and can now start using it in a meaningful way. Like Garron said in the video he'd have to spend a few hours more if he went through all of the effects too!
@@MysticOblong If you know other synths, then 1. you wasted 50 minutes of your life; 2. you're not familiarized with synths. If point one; you would already look for a shortest tutorial. If point two; your statement doesn't add any value to the argument due its naivity. I use synthetizers and modules since year 1997, before Facebook; RUclips; Instagram; etc. and I can firmly state that no one needs an hour to explain basic stuff and how to wire it up. I would love to do tutorials; I have a done a couple about electronic music just to show how a 25 minutes tutorial can be reduced to 3 minutes without losing any quality and pedagogy. That's called workflow optimization and efficiency; simple as that.
@@Overxpossed 1. I like Irish accents so this was a nice hour break from the local Aussie accents. 2. I don't like speaking in list items so this is the last one. Not everything we watch has to be less that 30 mins in length. Besides, this is SURGE THE MOVIE and the title would not make a lot of sense if the video only went for 10 minutes. This lightening fast Surge overview is probably more to your liking: ruclips.net/video/5lTYKwaoE6Y/видео.html I found that one provided a really good quick overview. I just really appreciate people take the time to make videos and share their knowledge. I think I remember something about "workflow optimization and efficiency" when I did that course when working in a supermarket. It was just before we did the first aid session.
Hey, thanks for the great rundown!
Couple of comments I'd like to add:
1. Character section for the time being only works with Classic oscillator (and it's global, so all Classic oscillators in both scenes will take on that setting). We want to make this setting per oscillator and for all oscillator types in one of future versions of Surge.
2. The Square/Sawtooth presets for Classic oscillator were always there, even before Surge was open-sourced. It's basically a shortcut so that people can start straight up with a square or a saw without the need to figure out that you need to move the Shape slider to get one or the other.
3. The Map to Controller or Key, Add Automation Lane etc options are so-called VST3 host-side added menu options. Not all DAWs have these or support this VST3 capability, and different DAWs will have different options here (compare Bitwig vs FL vs Reaper for example). AU plugin doesn't have this option at all.
4. Right-click anywhere is how Surge rolls! A bunch of parameters have additional options there. For example, in Sine or FM oscillators, you can right-click Feedback to get an extended range which greatly increases the tonal palette you can achieve.
5. Noise color parameter is more like highpass in the upper half, lowpass in the lower half. :)
6. Inter-oscillator FM will work with all oscillator types that are not BLIT-based (a type of band-limiting technique) - so this includes Window, Sine, FM2, FM3. Classic, Wavetable and S&H Noise are out. You can even use audio in as a FM modulator, but won't work as FM carrier.
7. Analog envelope type basically emulates a charging or discharging capacitor, which is how actual analog envelopes were made. Has a different curve than any of those you get in Digital mode, which are just regular linear/quadratic/cubic, mathematically perfect.
8. MSEG currently has a limit of 128 nodes, so can't exactly have ANY number of points that you want :)
Very useful!
Are you the person that’s really active in NI community ? Wow !
@@Bryan-bh7cy Why, yes, yes I am. :)
@@EvilDragon666 Thank you Mario
Can you coding something like korg moss technology "reed and bowed oscillators" I don't know why there is no any vsti with this wonderful technology 🙄
@@GalantGoStudio We have added a "String" oscillator to Surge 1.9, which gets you plucked and bowed string sounds.
And of course, there are plenty of plugins that do this. Anything that has a comb filter or two with some waveshaping, filtering and oscillators/exciters will do. Plenty of such synths...
It will not sound EXACTLY like MOSS. But it's the same idea.
Backlinking this to the article i'm doing on this synth, really solid walkthrough and Surge is a beast!
Excellent detailed walkthrough and explanation. Surge is a powerhouse, even more so with the new XT. They just keep adding great stuff and improving the workflow.
Surge and Vital are pretty much the best freebies out there right now IMO.
Cheers man
I am normally an "analog conservative" but I'm getting addicted to Surge....How is that possible ? My congratulations to the designers of this wonderful sounding piece of work with its ideal user interface ! I love it and I use it a lot and it mixes well with other instruments even acoustic.....
Thanks for sharing!
surge plugin is available for vcvrack
Surge is turning into quite a beast. I'll have to start programming some patches for this badboy.
Best, most direct information filled synth tutorial I've seen in years!! Subscribed
I did a deep end of the pool dive into eurorack five years ago, but this synth has kept me coming back to the box. It sounds so good
This synth is so deceptively quiet and lame on the outset.
Start tweaking things... the the UX just opens up? BigTime!
Watch how by choosing particular modes, new controls just show up to be tweaked/tortured.
It's even better in 2022 and to all who have contributed to it, have done a great job. Definitely gets a lot off use from me...
Full agreement on all comments as a. novice just getting my head around the software which is unbelievably free....good tutorials ...fun all the way...thanks to uploaders for doing this
Its so deep i've barely scratched the surface . I will dive into Surge so thanks for the great demo vid !
I knew this synth was powerful. Not just HOW powerful. This is crazy! And you explain it really well for how complicated the thing is!
Thanks Garron I had Surge for a while and never dived into it. I will thanks a lot. Cheers
Garron in Beast Mode here people! Very helpful, man. Big up!
38:20 love the multiple chicken dance references throughout the video 😆 😂
When the student is ready a Master appears. Thank you for an Interesting Informative concise tutorial. Subscribed.
I had heard of surge. But dude, your tutorial made me realize what a beast that is. Will definitely work on it!
this is madness, thanks so much for all your hard work on this project. ive just bought a loopstation which arrved about an hour ago so im going to be some time!! but im diving into this synth later today i cant wait. top man!
Thank you. I was sure tired of staring at the screen clueless (guitarist). I'm set to begin exploring now. Pretty exciting. Thank you, again.
Thanks for the "manual", I play a lot with Surge and think it's a genius synth VST.
And it works fine with Cakewalk by Bandlab (also free and very good by the way)
Thank you very much and hope you make another video with Surge
Greetings MiKa
Lots more Surge coming :) Just wanted to have this video for people to reference on my channel :D
THanks for watching!
Really well-made tutorial! I don't feel so lost now when trying to use this 👍
Did seeing the raw creative power of this synth make anyone else's butt tingle? No? Just me. Cool
Surge is a beast. Seriously I think Phaseplant is the only synth that surpasses it only a bit. Phaseplant also costs more than 1000$. Congrats to the creators
Phaseplant is $189 not sure where you got $1000 from!
Stayed till the end thank you
Solid run down mate. Cheers
So many options and very well organized UI.
Thanks for this great explanation!
Very useful, this needs more views
This great video and the manual complement each other quite nicely! 🎻
Grrreat tutorial! Thanks a lot for this!
BTW: for those that were seeing this in full screen, who hasn't moved their mouse at 4:00 ?
Thanks for the video! I learned a lot from this and intend to start using the synth more.
Awesome presentation..the UI is deep and overwhelming...this video is gold!
You can type note on the Filter cutoff. That's good especially for keytracking a resonant bandpass
Just what I needed, thanks!
Thanks this tutorial is brilliant!
Bro wtf, thank you man this was a beefy tutorial ♥️♥️♥️
excellent synth i had no idea it loads serum wavetables
fantastic walkthrough. Better than a manual.
Goated. You are a mad man.
Thanks for the review nice job
Thanks! Great synth, great intro!
Super amazing video man i learned everything i needed to know :)) thanks !
Great tutorial. Thanks
Awesome!
Мужик, ты лучший
Excellent Synth
Excellent video.
Thanks.
hey irish tiktok guy! i hope you had a nice butter and crisp sandwich after all this hard work :)
Thanks dude, this was very helpful!
Thanks so much for sharing this man. I just picked this up and this was an exceptionally helpful. Question, is there a reason I would want to lower polyphony in Surge? does it affect memory use?
Hey thanks!
There are a couple of reasons!
The main one is if you have a bunch of chords with long release times on a few tracks, you may want to have them cut eachother off at a certain point so your CPU doesn't die with thousands of overlapping unison voices.
Some people like to restrict voice count to sort of emulate the behavior of certain hardware :)
@@GarronsMusic Kewl. thanks for the quick response. totally makes sense. keep up the great posts
@@unclespooky it does affect your CPU usage. If you have a patch that has reached high cpu you might want to take down polyphony from 16 to 2, you will thank me later.
@@Uvisir unless I was playing pads or something. that would affect the amount of notes in the chord, but I get you and it's a great shout. It's not something you notice right away simply by asking why the heck so much usage? Particularly if you're as rusty as me. It's a good thing to make a note to keep an eye on. thanks for the FYI
that is crazy , thank you for this
Amazing tutorial! Thank you
Did you know it was originally written by one of the founders and developers of Bitwig?
I did indeed! I think alot of stuff from this probably made its way into bitwig!
Didnt know that until now...nice info
Interesting. I just switched to Bitwig after 20 years+ in protools, logic and reaper. Amazing DAW.
You mean they've had a comprehensive mseg the WHOLE TIME and don't include it? I really wish they would abandon whatever line of thought it is, that has led them to this conclusion. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@The_Mercian The MSEG was added in the latest update by the open source team! not by the original dev!
Looks like the MSEG is very inspired bu FL Studios way of doing them!
Which hopefully we see from bitwig too!
Thank you!
Thank you for that great Tutorial ! Helps a lot.
is it somehow possible to create some favorite tags to the presets ?
wow un buen sintetizador en 32 bits :O OMG! nice
Thank you so much for the Tutorial man!!!
I want to ask if Surge has a "velocity amount slider" for the filters? Or the only way to do that is manually using the modulation section? Thanks again
im having sound problems, the program isnt producing sound
Thank you very much
very helpful - thx!
Is this available on Linux too? My god, this looks so powerful, especially when used with the best DAW ever too, Bitwig :D
EDIT: I just seen that is is, as VST3. I'm so happy right now!... Thank you for this video Garron!
It’s a crazy synth! Enjoy 😃
You Linux boys and girls have a version of Zynadd Subfx that works. Color me jealous on that one.
@@adamsmith7058 really?
@@Mrdjhappyman Really what? That it works. The last time I heard about it did.
@@adamsmith7058 I mean I didn't know it was available
some sounds dont stop playing on its own, is there a way to stop that? i just can't find that setting... just some sounds, most of them get triggered by the keyboard normally but some just dont stop playing..... any tips ?
Really helpful and clear tuto. Big thanks from France ! 👏👍. 🎛👽🎶🕉🤯. Please make the same on Vital 🙏
Thank you and one for vital is coming in the next week or so!
@@GarronsMusic ok great and thanks in advance 🤓
Thats cool...thanks a lot :)
Can we use Surge for commercial use?
Yes!
Hello
I have a question,
I use a Mac 10.15.6, and installed a this VST but it doesn’t show up from DAW,
Could you tell me how to do it,
I'm sure this synth is missing something. But I have no time in this life to go through all the options and make a point.
Hi thank you for the tutorial 🙏🏻 just one question, when I do my own wavetables Surge automatically skew the audio file from A to B and don’t stay on one frame. Do you have an idea how I make it stay on the same frame ? Thx 😊
Add this & a sequencer to Audacity and you’d have the greatest DAW ever.
can u synthesize drums outta this synth
hey! dude you're tutorial is amazing but i have a problem i can hear nothin and i think the audio doesn't work, could you help solve it? thx u sm
Hello. Can it be played with the computer keyboard? I can´t find this option or make it sound
That will depend on your DAW
I wish someone would do this with the full version of kontakt. Kontakt player sucks.
Downloaded just like everyone else. Mine the only one that makes no sound doing anything. Loaded through ableton can’t get single sound to come through speakers. Wanted to try to get into music but maybe this is my cue to not… every video I watch on this sound happens immediately and nothing I adjust or move or click makes anything happen
The same happens to me.
Did you manage to make any sound?
@@Oncodine nope, good luck getting any help
how do you even listen the track??
is there any known problems running in win 10 ?? i get unwanted note hold. it happens randomly youll hit a note and it will hold for no reason. a few more strikes of the same key can often stop it but not always.
amazing synth i just cant play it in its current form.
that's VST3 for you.. not a surge problem.
brother show me how to do riser in surge
how tight/fast/clean do you find the filter envelopes
VST3 of 1.8.1 version constantly crashes DAW. Uninstalled and forgot after Vital.
try 1.9, it's out now.
I'm pretty sure I'm an idiot but I can't even find it to open it after I download and install... Can someone help me?
You can try clicking your windows icon or open your downloads file and search for it there.
Is this an additive engine?
Hey! Bitwig brother!
Bitwig 4 lyfe
Right click every parameter!
You'll never know what extra feature you'll uncover
If this is one of the best Synth where can I find animations for parameter modulations? Wavetable Editor? Spectral warping?
Every synth doesn’t have to have every feature. I still consider this synth to be one of the best available. Especially considering some of the stuff the team are adding this month!
@@GarronsMusic For me, however, too many functions are missing to use or recommend Surge in 2021. There are currently much better alternatives with a better user interface
@@rumariomusic Can you recommend me some nice free synths?
is it possible to drag and drop raw Wave Files into Surge? Greetz
29:30 🐤🐤 🐤🐤 🐤🐤 👽👽
💀💀💀💀
Is amazing this upgrade of the vst, and nice tutorial, one of the best by free.... i am making tracks with it.... check it out at my prooooofff. ..... XD ..... just kidding, anyway a good tutorial. the synth offers a basic tutorial in the skins sections too. Thumbs up .
X🤘🏻X
PLEASE hot do save sounds created
Hit the store button
@@GarronsMusic thanks for the answer man
I don't know how many Irish accents there are, but I've yet to hear one I didn't love
You've just heard the best one! The Accent from Mayo in the west! haha
........we like to think so anyway........
Yeet yeet
you don't need an hour to explain a kind of modular synth.
Maybe not if you’re extremely familiar with synthesis
@@GarronsMusic well... if not explaning the basic stuff such as what's timbre, frequency and more natural qualities of the sound, as well, the types of waves, and why they sound like they do, etc; you don't need an hour.
I watched for the full hour and found the pacing perfect and appreciated the comprehensiveness. I paused a few times too to try things out. When I first opened Surge I didn't have a clue how everything fit together. And voila! just after a single hour I have a pretty clear understanding of Surge and can now start using it in a meaningful way. Like Garron said in the video he'd have to spend a few hours more if he went through all of the effects too!
@@MysticOblong If you know other synths, then 1. you wasted 50 minutes of your life; 2. you're not familiarized with synths. If point one; you would already look for a shortest tutorial. If point two; your statement doesn't add any value to the argument due its naivity. I use synthetizers and modules since year 1997, before Facebook; RUclips; Instagram; etc. and I can firmly state that no one needs an hour to explain basic stuff and how to wire it up. I would love to do tutorials; I have a done a couple about electronic music just to show how a 25 minutes tutorial can be reduced to 3 minutes without losing any quality and pedagogy. That's called workflow optimization and efficiency; simple as that.
@@Overxpossed 1. I like Irish accents so this was a nice hour break from the local Aussie accents. 2. I don't like speaking in list items so this is the last one. Not everything we watch has to be less that 30 mins in length. Besides, this is SURGE THE MOVIE and the title would not make a lot of sense if the video only went for 10 minutes. This lightening fast Surge overview is probably more to your liking: ruclips.net/video/5lTYKwaoE6Y/видео.html
I found that one provided a really good quick overview. I just really appreciate people take the time to make videos and share their knowledge. I think I remember something about "workflow optimization and efficiency" when I did that course when working in a supermarket. It was just before we did the first aid session.