the problem with People these days is we are politically divided that even listening to facts and opinions in an objective manner without taking sides is difficult for us
Baba mungori mutengesi chete. all that needs to be corrected would be address without you causing all despondency. Hamuna nyaya. munorarama ne hukopokopo. Chiitai tione. who supports you VaMwonzora. You can win on the point of pleasing Zanu pf. You know very well that you do not have people. Itai tione shefu. Muchashandisa mari chete kkk.
I support Chamisa all the way but listening to this conversation MDC Alliance must pick one or two important points said by Douglas Mwonzora eg like rushing preparing court cases, Trevor to be fair on both faction of the MDC please bring Sec Gen Hwende or Biti so that we hear 1hr side of MDC Alliance.. Overall you doing a good job Trevor
Technically MDC alliance will never win because they are wrong. There should have been convetion and elections for the leader after Tsvangira's departure considering that Chamisa was just appointed by Tsvangirai as vice president.
clearly you are very true. this man thinks he is the best. He says he did that he did that and he coined that. The man is all talk. Look at how he giggles and laughs and thinks he is doing the best for the Zim population. Douglas we know you are working with the devil Was at home drafting a peace order. Surely history will catch up with this man.
@@franktapera4728 Compromised people dont make good public figures. He can run his own law firm or continue on his high horse till next election. I suspect he may be appointed to a committee by zanu, to thank him for the chaos he brought to mdc. He however is exactly what we dont need, we will see how his coup vs Chamisa vs the voters turn out in 2023
They can hate you but they can not take your strong credentials Senator D. Mwonzora dont worry about haters. the biggest problems in zimbabwe ryt now people who want everyone to hear what they want,some of us respect other people kufunga kavo pasina kutuka. thanks Senator Mwonzora thanks Mr Trevor.
Strong credentials doesn't make one a constitunalist..nor a president/leader material..no one hate him..he just lacks principles..lying behind constitutionalism..the truth will out..one day..
Hate him or love him, this guy is a giant. What a shame and loss to the splitt of the MDC. His background is reach no one can denie that. This interview could go 4 hrs. MDC-A better solve their problems coz this guy seems like he has their number. The best lwayer in Zim right nw has passed through him. Respect
He is a giant because he has the police army and zanu pf in his corner..on his own hapana zviripo..he may win all court cases but not hearts of sane Zimbabweans who are victims of the terrorist regime
Great insights from the man of the moment. Thank you very much Trevor for allowing him the opportunity to dispel the misinformation and propaganda instigated against his person
This man is a national treasure- i don't know much about the despute with MDC -A but great knowledge sir. Let constitutionalism reign in our land not populism. Thank Sir Trevor for this platform
What constitutionalism when hes being helped by the police army and zanu pf..plus compromised institutions in the banana republic..look what chaos he caused in all parties he has been..and now in mdct...mwonzora is a bitter man..sold his soul for 30 pieces of silver..
I dont feel this guy is sincere & genuine enough. The weapon of MDC's constitution presented itself at the right time, so that he fights his personal battle on the disguise of principle. How can you dismantle an opposition's presence in the parliament like that? Beside if he was that principled why did he continue to hang around in MDC Alliance and even campaigned for the Sec Gen position?
The whole thing was planned together with zanu pf to dismantle MDCA..the guy is insincere cunning sellout and a snitch..a bitter man who just want to be called president in his lifetime..look at the history of parties he has been..all gone..look at what he is causing in mdct..let's watch and see..
The great betrayal. Mwonzorewa went to Alliance congress and lost. Why did he participate in that congress if he thought that the constitution was being mutilated and emasculated?
He lost and was bitter..found an opportunity to misuse the covid supreme court judgement to fight NC in cahoots with zanu pf in the name of constitutionalism
@@mabasashumba3662 he has a serious problem..he is overrated..he is hiding behind his finger..and he knows it..constitutionalism ipi when hes breaking it every day.. e.g the $,7mil he accepted is that for mdct?..is that constitutionalism?
Regrettably I don't agree with you Givy. Genius where? Where was Constitutionalism when he allowed Nelson Chamisa to be appointed to VP by Morgan? Why didnt he challenge that then? Why did he agree to contest the Presidential post in the MDC-A in Gweru(incl all other posts)? When did he discover MDC-A was going against the Constitution?? When you answer those questions on behalf of your 'genius', then we begin a conversation man!
@@teddyjonga5452 like he always say, he would've not siding with mafam Thoko even he knew what they wr doing was wrong for the betterment of our people he chose to with Camisa crew but hoping Chamisa will call for an extraordinary congress and hoping they will right their wrong together but to his surprise Chamisa went on undermining the values of the party letting the likes of Biti and Welshman into the part because of their popularity
@@givynyamhunga844 Tsvangirai sidelined him as he was a threat and preferred chamisa harmeless against his position. Remember Tsvangirai invited Mwonzora first then consoled him with general secretary post. Sad because wasu will never lead though intelligent as they are compared to the rest of the country. You cannot even accept Mutambara to lead you even if he is recognised the whole world. 😭😭😭
I don't think that would be prudent, might do well for ratings. It's clear there's a problem between the 2 of them both personally & politically. If they are running against each other then from a debate perspective yes but if they are brought to the same table, there is a risk of this continual hatred & name-calling taking a new turn amongst the populace #MyTwoCents
Mehluli Dlamini why are we not asking ourselves why Nelson Chamisa is not available to Zimbabwean journalists or anyone Zimbabwean for an interview to be asked about this situation. He only rushes to outside media, ENCA, BBC etc, what is he hiding and afraid of?
Nqobile Mkhwananzi are you listening to what you saying, if Zanu wanted to ntshontsha him as you suppose, do you think there would not have done that alright?
@@mthulisidube1447 They are clearly running this MDC-T from Shake Shake House & appointed Judges. Its soo clear, only a blind person can't see that. Give it to them, ZanuPf is efficient at infiltration. Douglas has been used from Zum days. Being a lawyer helps them achieve their ends.
This is your guy not opportunists riding the wave of popularity.Principle over convenience is the only true and sure foundation for any prosperous and functional societies.Constitutionalism should always take precedence over personalities.
Constitutionalism is not taking over HH with the help of army police n zanu pf at midnight..constitution alism is not recalling MDCA mps with the help of compromised institutions. Constitutionalism is not accepting $7 million which is meant for MDCA not mdct..constitutionalism is not having 38 people not in 2014 structures nominate you for presidency after nominations were postponed and in the absence of the leadership..he can talk all he wants abt his past achievements but we want the now and the future..the way he has handled the issue since covid judgement mwonzora left a lot to be desired..left questions more than answers..not presidential material..
Mukoma Dougie mabaya dede nemukanwa. Truth be told, we Zimbabweans have a propensity to create dictators of our own, populism is our mantra. I wonder whether we even understand the democracy we like to preach about every other day. We may not actually be ready for this type of democracy because we don't have knowledge of so many facets of these binding frameworks which are meant to be driven by the constitution. It's a bit similar to the issue of Vatican I, II, etc. We have a lot of Catholics on the continent who go to mass each Sunday but they do not know what all these Vatican sessions were about. It's high time our people begin to accept to be educated about the importance of constitution & thereafter decide whether they want to follow it or not. We have one man one vote but I think if we take it an extra step we could go a long way; one informed man, one wise vote.
@Ray, l like your analysis. Zimbabwean politics is all about populism and big words and phrases that noone ever bothered to take time to read and understand what that actually means in our own context. On a personal note, only a few people that were in Soko hostel in 1987 refer to Mwonzora as mukoma Dougie, never thought he would take that title out of Soko hostel into the wider world.
@@RudoMoto that's what we, as Zimbabweans are all about. We have this reputation of having one of the highest literacy rates in Africa but literacy & understanding are two different things. We choose to block the understanding part. I didn't know that he already had that 'title' way back. High time we stand for our principles!!!
Kwazvinorohwa matumbu ndokwazvinomhanyira sad 😭😭😭 wasu ahaambofa akatonga though wise and intelligent compared to the rest of the country. They cannot even accept Mutambara even though he is recognized the whole world.
Trevor doesn't ask critical questions like they do on hardtalk !! His questions are a mere shallow conversation. There is no grilling here !! I am sorry to say that this show or conversation doesn't have the depth to deal decisively with liars!! The show in my view lacks depth & is no different from a job interview. Trevor is a great journalist but on this show, one can answer his questions sipping a glass of fanta & not sweat !!! I honestly feel that there is room for improvement on how questions are asked so that the intended audience will be convinced that u are impartial !!!
If he grilled them. They would refuse to come and give us these interviews. Its a good start. Trevor is trying cause most of these people will never give interviews
Smart to run a law firm..as a leader of a nation nope!..mwonzora cant stand on his own..smart is not using police and army and zanu pf to fight your battles in opposition..that's where he lost it..he could have formed his own political party..but no coz he knows it's cold out there..now hes causing chaos in mdct..already!...constitutionalism my foot!
Trevor is a smart journalist and a shrewd business person but he can't just rely on this reputation and hope that this will give him contextual information in every interview he does. He clearly didn't do his due deligence in terms of reading about the MDC history and factional struggles prior to this interview, leaving him relying on what Mwonzora was telling him to formulate follow up questions. This isn't only lazy journalism but also dangerous journalism as it woodwinks us to believe in falsehoods. If Mwonzora is a constitutionalist as he claims he is he must have resigned from being an MDC appointed senator as the court has since ruled that Chamisa's rise to power violated the constituion. You can't be recalling MDC MPs and at the same cling to an MDC Alliance position which is giving you income (He is still an MDC Alliance appointed). If Chamisa was spiteful I don't think he would have appointed him as a senator. So Mwonzora's lies need to be exposed for what they are. He is no constitutionalist but a self seeking politician. I agree with him that Chamisa's appointment to the position of president of the MDC-T after Tsvangirai's death was problematic from a legal point of view. But Mwonzora, as a constitutionalist, should have raised this issue from both inside and outside the party. To my surprise, Mwonzora only became vocal about this issue after his abortive attempt to replace Chamisa as the MDC president. It's interesting to know that Mwonzora's first person to be recalled from parliament was the MDC secretary general (Charlton Hwende) who had defeated him at the Gweru congress. Do you sense any revenge here? It looks like he was eager to punish Hwende for defeating him at the congress. Trevor should have also asked Mwonzora who helped Elias Mashavire to file against the MDC Allianace. It's common knowledge that Mwonzora was the legal brians behind this court application but this charlatan doesn't have the gutts to own it. So what this context do is to portray a double crossing Mwonzora who was both trying to defeat the MDC Alliance in court while at the same vying to be the leader of the MDC Alliance which he considered to have no constitutional basis. Can one be more comical than this? You can't fool us Mwonzora. We are also where we are today because of the poorly drafted 2013 MDC-ZANU Pf constitution which Mwonzora was a key part of. So when we cry about electoral fraud we should be pointing at Mwonzora as a legal fraudster for handing us a fundamentally flawed constitution which has enabled ZANU PF to remain in power. This is the same guy who, as a secretary general of the MDC Alliance had two candidates representing the MDC Alliance in the same constituency in the just ended general elections. What good lawywer does that unless if he wanted to mess up things for the party he had a love-hate relationship with. These are things Trevor needed to bring up and have Mwonzora address in this interview. I don;t want to consider Trevor a biased journalist but this interview was shambolic to say the least. He barely asked any critical questions to a politician who has done many questionable things. Zimbabweans are being taken for granted by these self seeking politicians who masquerade as constitutionalists and democrats yet their actions only serve to pertuate ZANU hegemony. Please show some respect for the suffering people in Zimbabwe. People don't believe everything any politicians in Zimbabwe says. There is a lot of conmen and conwomen out there.
he should have asked why him he didn't challenge the appointment of Chamisa as VP by Tsvangirai he should have asked his interpretation of the political parties act,parliament act ,Zec act as not the supreme governing acts to determine the legal standing of the MDC alliance why did he recall MP elected by the people thus constitutional to the supreme law of the country thus takes precedence of party constitution.
Trevor subtly guiding Mwonzora throughout the talk show. He poses easy and predictable questions that Mwonzora is obviously comfortable with. Easy ride indeed for Mwonzora. Trevor, make your shows 'hard talk' not easy rides for those you prefer.
Dougie says police were involved only when violence was evident...Their involvement was accordingly procedural. Why then did Commissioner Matanga deny that police were at Harvest House when asked by Simba of Zimeye.
@Taka Adams Unfortunately Trevor didnt ask incisive questions. This guy is lying through his teeth! Where was Constitutionalism when he allowed Nelson Chamisa to be appointed to VP by Morgan? Why did he agree to contest the Presidential post in the MDC-A? When did he discover MDC-A was going against the Constitution?? If these question had been answered, then we would have started talking. His group is clearly being managed from ZanuPf backroom, even a blind man can see.
@@nuellamari1999 show me how he has been used? Everybody who opposes something within MDC is ZANU,that is standard operating practice. Biti and Ncube were one time Zanu after they left Tsvangirayi. Nothing new and credible to see nor hear here!
@@teddyjonga5452 A blind man can see that Chamisa committed a palace coup! Appointing Chamisa as VP was just one corrupt and unconstitutional act Tsvangirayi committed. It was not the first. If at all,Tsvangirayi shld have left theMDC leadership way before all this as we know he did not have the dignity AND democratics ethos to be a future president of Zimbabwe,let alone MDC. His womanizing alone was just filthy for a public figure of that stature. And Mwonzora couldnt and wouldnt have saved him! Mwonzora did contest but democracy is such that you go with the majority even when you yourself do not agree.The elections were rigged in Chamisa;s favor, the same were incumbents rig and determine the boundaries the world over. Mwonzora's participation does not make the election legit! How could that be? As i have said in another reply, accusing other MDC members of being ZANU simply because they disagree is an old and tired Tsvangirayi MDC playbook act. Nothing new here!
The day Zim allows Diaspora vote is the day when Dougie will realise that social media noise is not just ghost accounts but actual people who are fed up with the current status quo.
mwonzora is a brilliant guy ...... he just lost his way when he went against Chamisa and the MDCA .... anything against MDCA now is a betrayal to the struggle
Thank you so much Trevor for this conversation. Big up to Mwonzora he was on point, hope he will walk the talk especially on issues to do with constitutionalism and principles as they are preparingfor the congress. Populism breeds mediocrity, Populism breeds dictatorship. Siyabonga👋👏👏👏👏
To be honest, these are not the hard hitting questions about the man that we would like to hear. It seems like some autobiography of some sort. Douglas does have some fighting qualities and lots of legal knowledge. I am not so sure that would be enough to make him a successful leader. Mukoma Dougie lacks charisma, tact and ability to win hearts and minds. At the risk of sounding elitist, constitutionalism, principles and legality are all virtues that we all love, however that alone without the skill to reach across the aisle and solve internal disputes is not enough to win votes or create a united party. Rather populism and personality play a great part on the voters at large and Dougie doesn’t appear to have mastered that art. A typical case in point is the ascendancy to power of the likes of Boris Johnson, Donald Trump, Dutete, Jeremy Corbyn, Mugufuli,...l hope you get the point.
Monzora, you seem you are well versed in the law but a lot is desired of you. As much as how NC assumed leadership of Mdc was not constitutional, I think if you wanted to uphold your principles, you could have left the party and not have campaigned for NC and even contested for the position in a party that was going against your principles. Your illegal recalls makes you complicit with zanu pf in the deprivation of the electorate.
Very insightful and from the experience this man has,I personally think he has what it takes to be a leader,as long as he does not divert,like others have done.Once in power,many promises are broken because you are now dealing with reality rather than presumptions and wishful thinking.Politics is dirty and it will be great to know what their party's constitution says if a leader becomes corrupt.What strict measures do they implement because I think that should be the fear factor for any leader trying to run a country.We are tired of promises.I noticed a little bit of arrogance when he talked about how he took over Morgan Tsvangirai house...that reminds me of the tactics of the ruling party.Great interview though...MDC Alliance next.
I personally agree with Munzora and Trevor to move Zimbabwe forward very convincing to unite the mdc parties to vote as One for the good of the suffering people of Zimbabwe.
Im impressed by the way mwonzora articulates himself. There's very little name calling or denigrating anyone, just pure facts a trend thats often lacking in the other faction
Learned .. experienced .. commited and dedicated guy ... Baffled as to why he didn't get even a single vote .. Could it be he's not known by the public .. Inadequate campaign ... Splitting of MDC ... He sounds like he's got the knowledge to make a good Leader ... not sure about the practicalities though
The question are leading and lack depth on the current issues. Mwonzora is a bitter man after losing. Why did he took part in the election. Mashavira is his project. He is a zanu pf project . He praises the courts that are captured useless
True that. Unfortunately Trevor didnt ask incisive questions. This guy is lying through his teeth! Where was Constitutionalism when he allowed Nelson Chamisa to be appointed to VP by Morgan? Why did he agree to contest the Presidential post in the MDC-A? When did he discover MDC-A was going against the Constitution?? If these question had been answered, then we would have started talking. His group is clearly being managed from ZanuPf backroom, even a blind man can see.
Zimbabwe does not need academics anymore. It needs liberators. Very eloquent but I gurantee you a divided MDC will never remove ZANU PF from power. Vitalis Zvinavashe and company declared that they will never salute a leader without liberation war credentials. They proved it in 2008. The army overthrew Mugabe and replaced him with their preferred leader in a coup code named operation restore legacy. That's why the Mugabe lagacy is still alive and even more stronger today. I have just given you a few examples. Constitutionalism does not work in Zimbabwe.
he is an opportunist because if he was principled he should have challenged the appointments of Chamisa as vice president by Morgan Tsvangirai in 2016 not to wait for Tsvangirai to first die.this means if he was still alive that violation of the law could be alive and unchallenged.all of them in the MDC are opportunists .they are now saying they are defending Tsvangirai yet Tsvangirai is the one who violated the constitution .they also were part of the meetings in the standing committees and national council that endorsed Tsvangirai appointment of Chamisa. all of them are power hungry morons masquerading as constitutionalist.Chamisa as successor of the struggle is sealed. 2008 we won but opposition was divided. infact the current MDC A and people of Zimbabwe are winners cause we have finally got rid of those who think they are entitled and in a struggle for positions.Zimbabwe politics if finally clean and the MDC alliance is filled with people who understand that positions and constitutions are the means to the end.Tsvangirai saw that to elevate Chamisa and present him as a formidable successor will need him to use the provision of the MDC T constitution that congress can consitutinalise illegal decisions.
Great conversation Trevor, i believe this guy. He makes a lot of sense. Its unfortunate that you can't oppose Chamisa without people saying that you have been bought by ZANU PF. Zim needs principled leaders like this one
Good attempt at PR. However, Senator you know Politics is sometimes about Charisma and likeability both of which evades you. My problem with you is that Zanu PF know better than you do that certain issues especially party matters are best solved politically rather than legally. The issue of ZANUPF leadership after the unconstitutional overthrow of Robert Mugabe was not subjected to constitunality but was solved politically. This is why Mnangagwa took over and not Phekezela Mpoko. Mnnangagwa would not want this to be subjected to a legal process because he would loose since Mpoko was supposed to take over as the only deputy president of ZANUPF at the time Bob was overthrown. It is in this context the people see you as a sell out in that ZANUPF is perceived to be supporting in a legal/constitutional process which is weakening the opposition, something they themselves would not do in their party. Finally, considering the way ZANUPF is hurted at he moment it will be very difficult for people to dispel the idea that you're a sellout considering your cordial relationship with them
From what angle was Phekezela Mpoko supposed to take over from Mugabe??? The reason for Mugabe's ouster was that attempt to eliminate Mnangagwa who was indeed the rightful vice president of ZANU PF. We all know how the second vice president of ZANU PF is appointed, so was the appointment of Nelson Chamisa as vice president of MDC. Mpoko was never the rightful heir so is Kempo Mohadi. Chamisa was also not the rightful heir as we all know that Thokozani Khupe was the rightful heir of the presidency of Tsvangirai. Unconstitionalism resulted in Mugabe being ousted from power, so is Nelson Chamisa being ousted from power. And I wonder why do you oppose ZANU PF if you advocate for a clear unconstitutional act that was done by Nelson Chamisa.
The ignorance of the masses rremains the demise to our freedom. The Senator has revealed the challenge founded in administrative coherence to statute and code. His fight is clearly on process with pride for his craft. I dont see his relevance in politics but administration. However, the collapse of sense to measure finds us in this reverse mode. The MDC and its variances is not 'glueable', but maybe be a trampolin tko a better knit progression
Good as an admin officer....politicians dont operate this way. Put his face on ballot paper versus Zanu pf and you will see the results. He has score a few goals becoz Zanu pf are in his corner.
Dougie you were arrested for exercising your right to speak out on several occasions and you won the cases. You are now senator which is a position of influence,surprisingly you are not speaking out to the violation of the citizens rights enshrined in the Zimbabwe constitution which you helped draft and are fully aware of the contents of section 3 in relation to citizens freedoms and rights,dignity and respect. Douglas you are being complicit by being silent.
Mr Mwonsora thank you for making us understand your position ..We were quick to conclude... .I love how you say Nelson is your little brother...Is this the best route for MDCT to take to resolve all your differences ........The next election is going to surprise you..MDC is fast becoming worse than Zanu ....You guys dont have the passion for people who you lead...Peoples lives are affected by stupid squabbles ......If Mugabe and Tsvangirai once united and the whole nation benefited...Why cant we follow the same model you unite with Chamisa and MDC benefits..
@@Ray-ku9ds 🤣🤣😂😂. In a banana republic like Zimbabwe, that does not work. Do you think Zanu pf understand any principles?? Do you think Chiwenga and Mnangangwa understand any principles?? CHANGE IS INEVITABLE. MWONZORA IS DEAD AND BURIED
@@erisherm.8451 I fully agree with u which then begs the question; is this style of democracy really suitable for us? Would perhaps a Rwanda model suit our countries a lot better? I look at SA right now, things also getting a bit messy there gradually with ANC losing power slowly but surely.
I see a young Mugabe in Chamisa. Zimbabwe should not allow anyone who disobeys his own to party's constitution to lead the country. Imagine a constitutional delinquent leading the country!
Mwonzora is breaking the constitution right left n centre just like munangagwa..NC didn't nominate himself..mwonzora was there when it happened..after all he left mdct for khupe and moved on with MDCA..where is the dictatorship?..only now mwonzora hes bitter for losing hes cunningly talking to convince people..sane people see through mwonzora..time will tell.
Did Chamisa elect himself to leadership of the party. Why did this guy not say one word when MRT (unconstitutionally) appointed Nero and Mudzuri. Why did he participate in the Gweru congress?
its all about you SG of mdc-t you played it all safe on both sides to keep yo chances 50-50. you n't flexible in your leadership if ever you are a leader, as you are always right since 1988. be true and that will help in yo career. lies are like a flower they bloom for a short time and fade away. since wen have police supported opposition , the courts favored the powerful opponent especially if the ones who determine the outcome knows the potential of the oppressed. time will tell. i believe you mentioned it all when you said" when i saw that all my 2014 structures leaders were being blocked" you then decided to map yo way forward regroup with them and do whatever possible to destroy the popular figure. kkkkkkk change is like a wind u may delay it but it will see the light. i beleive you are right in some cases and Chamisa was wrong. but the bigger picture must be to make the best opposition, Chamisa is the hope of many you could have strategised well since you say you are a strategist, the 2018 elections proved so. courts can't elect leaders , presidents, ........ all come from the people. not all court rulings work for the best since they mayb hidden agendas. my advice is you may become be a political history like muzorewa, some1 once said 'when conscious leaves you, it doesn't say goodbye'
Mwonzora thinks he has to be rewarded for the work he did in his mind. He is oblivion of the fact that he is best as an administrative leader not a President. Any person that leads him should always give him credit coz throughout the conversation it is all about himself. He never takes responsibility for any actions, he blames other people. He has no sense of time and cannot understand the task at hand which is facing the incumbent government by challenging their status quo. Fighting another opposition is a waste of energy.
Sir Trevor history will remember you as man who fought for the betterment of his people...Please get us Chamisa make him undestand he also is a contributor to the crisis we are in..
I am not against you Monzora but one you were fired for going against your own boss you failed with Tekere and Tsangirai could not give you minstrel position vanenge vane zvavanoona iwe chimbozvibvunza kuti where a u going wrong
John One Constitutionalism in a captured system which totally lacks independence and strong institutions to provide checks and balances? Yeah right? Keep telling yourself that.
John One hmm well if you think our institutions are strong then there is really no point for us to waste each other’s time, unless of course you are queuing for fuel and you have time to kill haha.
Malvin Chadzamira - that's why we need to stick to the constitutions we create. I'm not sure if you understand what constitutionalism is. I don't queue for fuel, I sell you fuel 🌝
@@managersamuel Its a circus because they can't even follow their own constitution. They even use Zanu PF tactics fighting each other. MDC should be about policy not personalities.
@@shonaboy7554 Not true at all. Zanu Pf wants a docile MDC. You cant build an opposition that suits you. We as citizens wants a legitimate opposition not technocrats who feel entitled to rule us.Even if MDC ruled one day, we will want a legitimate opposition still not a washed up person like Gutu, Mwonzora or Kupe
@@shonaboy7554 You cant blame MDC when Zanu and its agents and moles enter MDC. Also at every chance to get paid, many deflect. This is why Chamisa is very important and popular. The idea that he is spotless, never ever left the party and unbreakable. To fix Zimbabwe, zanu must negotiate with Chamisa. He holds too much power politically and he is the answer
@@managersamuel MDC gives Zanu PF "lives" by being disorganized. This includes challenging the 2018 election results without concrete evidence but circumstantial evidence such as polling station A had the same results as polling station B. They did not even have a witness to give evidence on how the election was rigged. Zanu PF is again taking advantage of Chamisa's refusal of an extraordinary congress and seizure of the party. Had they gone ahead with the congress to select MT's successor before 2018 elections, we would not be here. 2005, MDC split because they could not agree on the introduction of the senate. No one must be above the party or else we will repeat the mistakes of history. MT availed himself to nominations, Chamisa refused. This alone should tell you what kind of person you are dealing with.
the problem with People these days is we are politically divided that even listening to facts and opinions in an objective manner without taking sides is difficult for us
Baba mungori mutengesi chete.
all that needs to be corrected would be address without you causing all despondency.
Hamuna nyaya. munorarama ne hukopokopo.
Chiitai tione.
who supports you VaMwonzora. You can win on the point of pleasing Zanu pf.
You know very well that you do not have people. Itai tione shefu. Muchashandisa mari chete kkk.
Thanks Rodwell .
I could listen to the whole conversation with Senator Douglas Mwonzora. Rich in experience and great legal and political mind.
Sad people do not want the truth
Where is Dougie now?
I support Chamisa all the way but listening to this conversation MDC Alliance must pick one or two important points said by Douglas Mwonzora eg like rushing preparing court cases, Trevor to be fair on both faction of the MDC please bring Sec Gen Hwende or Biti so that we hear 1hr side of MDC Alliance.. Overall you doing a good job Trevor
I support this
Technically MDC alliance will never win because they are wrong. There should have been convetion and elections for the leader after Tsvangira's departure considering that Chamisa was just appointed by Tsvangirai as vice president.
This was so informative thanks Trevor and Mr Mwonzora you got my vote.
After i listen to this interview i realized tjat mwonzora is typ of a leader who can give every blame to other team work when ever they loose
Like Chamisa
clearly you are very true. this man thinks he is the best. He says he did that he did that and he coined that. The man is all talk. Look at how he giggles and laughs and thinks he is doing the best for the Zim population.
Douglas we know you are working with the devil
Was at home drafting a peace order. Surely history will catch up with this man.
@@edwardzvavareyi7889 this guy is now in a political dustbin,he thought he was unstoppable but now ati ziii akaita very big miscalculation ne struggle
He seems like a results oriented guy, with a wealth of experience. If ever he goes on the ballot, he is rest assured of my vote 🗳
He should start his own party
He makes a good Attorney General/ Prosecutor General
@@franktapera4728 Compromised people dont make good public figures. He can run his own law firm or continue on his high horse till next election. I suspect he may be appointed to a committee by zanu, to thank him for the chaos he brought to mdc. He however is exactly what we dont need, we will see how his coup vs Chamisa vs the voters turn out in 2023
I see you there.. Why is he getting air time in the state run ZBC?
@@franktapera4728 he can be great president. More calmer and academic than Chamisa
They can hate you but they can not take your strong credentials Senator D. Mwonzora dont worry about haters. the biggest problems in zimbabwe ryt now people who want everyone to hear what they want,some of us respect other people kufunga kavo pasina kutuka. thanks Senator Mwonzora thanks Mr Trevor.
Strong credentials doesn't make one a constitunalist..nor a president/leader material..no one hate him..he just lacks principles..lying behind constitutionalism..the truth will out..one day..
Hate him or love him, this guy is a giant. What a shame and loss to the splitt of the MDC. His background is reach no one can denie that. This interview could go 4 hrs. MDC-A better solve their problems coz this guy seems like he has their number. The best lwayer in Zim right nw has passed through him. Respect
He is a giant because he has the police army and zanu pf in his corner..on his own hapana zviripo..he may win all court cases but not hearts of sane Zimbabweans who are victims of the terrorist regime
Great interview. Pity we can't have all these strengths in one place. I am all for tolerance and freedom
Great insights from the man of the moment. Thank you very much Trevor for allowing him the opportunity to dispel the misinformation and propaganda instigated against his person
This man is a national treasure- i don't know much about the despute with MDC -A but great knowledge sir. Let constitutionalism reign in our land not populism. Thank Sir Trevor for this platform
One level headed comment I have seen on this thread. Am glad we still have a few who judge based on facts not emotions
@@petermtisi4300 kune vanhu vazvipira kuisa rima mumaziso, maCCC
What constitutionalism when hes being helped by the police army and zanu pf..plus compromised institutions in the banana republic..look what chaos he caused in all parties he has been..and now in mdct...mwonzora is a bitter man..sold his soul for 30 pieces of silver..
I dont feel this guy is sincere & genuine enough. The weapon of MDC's constitution presented itself at the right time, so that he fights his personal battle on the disguise of principle. How can you dismantle an opposition's presence in the parliament like that? Beside if he was that principled why did he continue to hang around in MDC Alliance and even campaigned for the Sec Gen position?
The whole thing was planned together with zanu pf to dismantle MDCA..the guy is insincere cunning sellout and a snitch..a bitter man who just want to be called president in his lifetime..look at the history of parties he has been..all gone..look at what he is causing in mdct..let's watch and see..
I get it now!!!! He figures it’s easier to take the helm of T than A. He is strategizing - even at the expense of a initialed front.
Hate him or love him but this man is a force to be recorned and has contributed a big part to the political table, he lives for constitutionalism
Lets judge him after the covid, the whole thing is happening without the people's contributions, i had same sentiments with Biti
Very true. Thank you very much
Sellout like u . .. uchanyengerwa mukadzi putseke
Constitunalists dont get help of police army cash from your opponent to fight political scores..mwonzora chose to drink from a poisoned chalice..
Solid, thoughtful, experienced and calculating guy. Underrate him at you own peril.
Overrated him to own peril..time will tell
A year later…
The great betrayal. Mwonzorewa went to Alliance congress and lost. Why did he participate in that congress if he thought that the constitution was being mutilated and emasculated?
He lost and was bitter..found an opportunity to misuse the covid supreme court judgement to fight NC in cahoots with zanu pf in the name of constitutionalism
This guy is unconvincing, he is being economic with the truth!
Good eye prophecy now he has caused havoc
Mwonzora may not be liked by many, BUT you cant take away his richy constitutional history, law-incisiveness, hard-work and "principledness"
I concur
Anoziwei uyu imbwa iyi
He spent over an hour without insulting any, you can't complete a single insults-free comment. I am sure that tells a story
He is a serial bed hopper, how many parties has he been a member and run off after muzzling them
@@mabasashumba3662 he has a serious problem..he is overrated..he is hiding behind his finger..and he knows it..constitutionalism ipi when hes breaking it every day.. e.g the $,7mil he accepted is that for mdct?..is that constitutionalism?
The man is genius and genuine he speaks truth even where it puts him on advantage side , it's only then we have a leadership Zimbabwe
Regrettably I don't agree with you Givy. Genius where? Where was Constitutionalism when he allowed Nelson Chamisa to be appointed to VP by Morgan? Why didnt he challenge that then? Why did he agree to contest the Presidential post in the MDC-A in Gweru(incl all other posts)? When did he discover MDC-A was going against the Constitution?? When you answer those questions on behalf of your 'genius', then we begin a conversation man!
@@teddyjonga5452 like he always say, he would've not siding with mafam Thoko even he knew what they wr doing was wrong for the betterment of our people he chose to with Camisa crew but hoping Chamisa will call for an extraordinary congress and hoping they will right their wrong together but to his surprise Chamisa went on undermining the values of the party letting the likes of Biti and Welshman into the part because of their popularity
@@givynyamhunga844 Tsvangirai sidelined him as he was a threat and preferred chamisa harmeless against his position. Remember Tsvangirai invited Mwonzora first then consoled him with general secretary post. Sad because wasu will never lead though intelligent as they are compared to the rest of the country. You cannot even accept Mutambara to lead you even if he is recognised the whole world. 😭😭😭
It would be prudent if you were to bring both Doug and Nelson on the same table please
I don't think that would be prudent, might do well for ratings. It's clear there's a problem between the 2 of them both personally & politically. If they are running against each other then from a debate perspective yes but if they are brought to the same table, there is a risk of this continual hatred & name-calling taking a new turn amongst the populace #MyTwoCents
Mehluli Dlamini why are we not asking ourselves why Nelson Chamisa is not available to Zimbabwean journalists or anyone Zimbabwean for an interview to be asked about this situation. He only rushes to outside media, ENCA, BBC etc, what is he hiding and afraid of?
Uyahlanya wena ufuna izanu yakho imtshontshe go away wena zanu stupid
Nqobile Mkhwananzi are you listening to what you saying, if Zanu wanted to ntshontsha him as you suppose, do you think there would not have done that alright?
@@mthulisidube1447 They are clearly running this MDC-T from Shake Shake House & appointed Judges. Its soo clear, only a blind person can't see that. Give it to them, ZanuPf is efficient at infiltration. Douglas has been used from Zum days. Being a lawyer helps them achieve their ends.
Trevor do you send questions first to your clients. Clearly Mwonzora is reading his responses.
He tends to be always looking to his right hanty
This is your guy not opportunists riding the wave of popularity.Principle over convenience is the only true and sure foundation for any prosperous and functional societies.Constitutionalism should always take precedence over personalities.
Constitutionalism is not taking over HH with the help of army police n zanu pf at midnight..constitution alism is not recalling MDCA mps with the help of compromised institutions. Constitutionalism is not accepting $7 million which is meant for MDCA not mdct..constitutionalism is not having 38 people not in 2014 structures nominate you for presidency after nominations were postponed and in the absence of the leadership..he can talk all he wants abt his past achievements but we want the now and the future..the way he has handled the issue since covid judgement mwonzora left a lot to be desired..left questions more than answers..not presidential material..
Mukoma Dougie mabaya dede nemukanwa. Truth be told, we Zimbabweans have a propensity to create dictators of our own, populism is our mantra. I wonder whether we even understand the democracy we like to preach about every other day. We may not actually be ready for this type of democracy because we don't have knowledge of so many facets of these binding frameworks which are meant to be driven by the constitution. It's a bit similar to the issue of Vatican I, II, etc. We have a lot of Catholics on the continent who go to mass each Sunday but they do not know what all these Vatican sessions were about. It's high time our people begin to accept to be educated about the importance of constitution & thereafter decide whether they want to follow it or not. We have one man one vote but I think if we take it an extra step we could go a long way; one informed man, one wise vote.
@Ray, l like your analysis. Zimbabwean politics is all about populism and big words and phrases that noone ever bothered to take time to read and understand what that actually means in our own context. On a personal note, only a few people that were in Soko hostel in 1987 refer to Mwonzora as mukoma Dougie, never thought he would take that title out of Soko hostel into the wider world.
@@RudoMoto that's what we, as Zimbabweans are all about. We have this reputation of having one of the highest literacy rates in Africa but literacy & understanding are two different things. We choose to block the understanding part. I didn't know that he already had that 'title' way back. High time we stand for our principles!!!
Kwazvinorohwa matumbu ndokwazvinomhanyira sad 😭😭😭 wasu ahaambofa akatonga though wise and intelligent compared to the rest of the country. They cannot even accept Mutambara even though he is recognized the whole world.
I would not vote for this chameleon and foxy. He is more crafty than any politician I have ever known. I wash my hands completely. Tsuro.
Interesting ...
Law vs Politics. The battle that will never end.
Trevor doesn't ask critical questions like they do on hardtalk !! His questions are a mere shallow conversation. There is no grilling here !! I am sorry to say that this show or conversation doesn't have the depth to deal decisively with liars!! The show in my view lacks depth & is no different from a job interview. Trevor is a great journalist but on this show, one can answer his questions sipping a glass of fanta & not sweat !!! I honestly feel that there is room for improvement on how questions are asked so that the intended audience will be convinced that u are impartial !!!
If he grilled them. They would refuse to come and give us these interviews. Its a good start. Trevor is trying cause most of these people will never give interviews
True
You can hate Mwonzora but the Guy is smart.
"We formed MDC Alliance", as he says and you think thats smart enough when he talks of constitutionalism.
Smart to run a law firm..as a leader of a nation nope!..mwonzora cant stand on his own..smart is not using police and army and zanu pf to fight your battles in opposition..that's where he lost it..he could have formed his own political party..but no coz he knows it's cold out there..now hes causing chaos in mdct..already!...constitutionalism my foot!
I'd say the guy is a conniving opportunist...the kind that can stab you in the back.
Unfortunately am not a politician. thank you
Trevor is a smart journalist and a shrewd business person but he can't just rely on this reputation and hope that this will give him contextual information in every interview he does. He clearly didn't do his due deligence in terms of reading about the MDC history and factional struggles prior to this interview, leaving him relying on what Mwonzora was telling him to formulate follow up questions. This isn't only lazy journalism but also dangerous journalism as it woodwinks us to believe in falsehoods.
If Mwonzora is a constitutionalist as he claims he is he must have resigned from being an MDC appointed senator as the court has since ruled that Chamisa's rise to power violated the constituion. You can't be recalling MDC MPs and at the same cling to an MDC Alliance position which is giving you income (He is still an MDC Alliance appointed). If Chamisa was spiteful I don't think he would have appointed him as a senator. So Mwonzora's lies need to be exposed for what they are. He is no constitutionalist but a self seeking politician.
I agree with him that Chamisa's appointment to the position of president of the MDC-T after Tsvangirai's death was problematic from a legal point of view. But Mwonzora, as a constitutionalist, should have raised this issue from both inside and outside the party. To my surprise, Mwonzora only became vocal about this issue after his abortive attempt to replace Chamisa as the MDC president. It's interesting to know that Mwonzora's first person to be recalled from parliament was the MDC secretary general (Charlton Hwende) who had defeated him at the Gweru congress. Do you sense any revenge here? It looks like he was eager to punish Hwende for defeating him at the congress.
Trevor should have also asked Mwonzora who helped Elias Mashavire to file against the MDC Allianace. It's common knowledge that Mwonzora was the legal brians behind this court application but this charlatan doesn't have the gutts to own it.
So what this context do is to portray a double crossing Mwonzora who was both trying to defeat the MDC Alliance in court while at the same vying to be the leader of the MDC Alliance which he considered to have no constitutional basis. Can one be more comical than this? You can't fool us Mwonzora.
We are also where we are today because of the poorly drafted 2013 MDC-ZANU Pf constitution which Mwonzora was a key part of. So when we cry about electoral fraud we should be pointing at Mwonzora as a legal fraudster for handing us a fundamentally flawed constitution which has enabled ZANU PF to remain in power. This is the same guy who, as a secretary general of the MDC Alliance had two candidates representing the MDC Alliance in the same constituency in the just ended general elections. What good lawywer does that unless if he wanted to mess up things for the party he had a love-hate relationship with. These are things Trevor needed to bring up and have Mwonzora address in this interview. I don;t want to consider Trevor a biased journalist but this interview was shambolic to say the least. He barely asked any critical questions to a politician who has done many questionable things.
Zimbabweans are being taken for granted by these self seeking politicians who masquerade as constitutionalists and democrats yet their actions only serve to pertuate ZANU hegemony. Please show some respect for the suffering people in Zimbabwe. People don't believe everything any politicians in Zimbabwe says. There is a lot of conmen and conwomen out there.
he should have asked why him he didn't challenge the appointment of Chamisa as VP by Tsvangirai
he should have asked his interpretation of the political parties act,parliament act ,Zec act as not the supreme governing acts to determine the legal standing of the MDC alliance
why did he recall MP elected by the people thus constitutional to the supreme law of the country thus takes precedence of party constitution.
Wowwww, this is powerful!
Trevor subtly guiding Mwonzora throughout the talk show. He poses easy and predictable questions that Mwonzora is obviously comfortable with. Easy ride indeed for Mwonzora. Trevor, make your shows 'hard talk' not easy rides for those you prefer.
wooow Thabani Mpofu has been a brilliant student
Dougie says police were involved only when violence was evident...Their involvement was accordingly procedural. Why then did Commissioner Matanga deny that police were at Harvest House when asked by Simba of Zimeye.
Brilliant guy Mwonzora. Cool, clam and collected. You are on the right track my man!
Right track of being used by zanu pf..cheer him on..that's democracy..desperate to be called president in his life
@Taka Adams Unfortunately Trevor didnt ask incisive questions. This guy is lying through his teeth! Where was Constitutionalism when he allowed Nelson Chamisa to be appointed to VP by Morgan? Why did he agree to contest the Presidential post in the MDC-A? When did he discover MDC-A was going against the Constitution?? If these question had been answered, then we would have started talking. His group is clearly being managed from ZanuPf backroom, even a blind man can see.
@@nuellamari1999 show me how he has been used? Everybody who opposes something within MDC is ZANU,that is standard operating practice. Biti and Ncube were one time Zanu after they left Tsvangirayi. Nothing new and credible to see nor hear here!
@@teddyjonga5452 A blind man can see that Chamisa committed a palace coup! Appointing Chamisa as VP was just one corrupt and unconstitutional act Tsvangirayi committed. It was not the first.
If at all,Tsvangirayi shld have left theMDC leadership way before all this as we know he did not have the dignity AND democratics ethos to be a future president of Zimbabwe,let alone MDC. His womanizing alone was just filthy for a public figure of that stature. And Mwonzora couldnt and wouldnt have saved him! Mwonzora did contest but democracy is such that you go with the majority even when you yourself do not agree.The elections were rigged in Chamisa;s favor, the same were incumbents rig and determine the boundaries the world over.
Mwonzora's participation does not make the election legit! How could that be? As i have said in another reply, accusing other MDC members of being ZANU simply because they disagree is an old and tired Tsvangirayi MDC playbook act. Nothing new here!
politicians are liars what this guy is saying looks genuine bring biti he will tell us a different story which will look genuine again
The day Zim allows Diaspora vote is the day when Dougie will realise that social media noise is not just ghost accounts but actual people who are fed up with the current status quo.
This guy is a princepled man... Thanks Trevor for such a show... Nelson Chamisa is misleading people, Makes sense now. The truth shall stand
U r sick wena
mwonzora is a brilliant guy ...... he just lost his way when he went against Chamisa and the MDCA .... anything against MDCA now is a betrayal to the struggle
That is the point. He has lost it. Reason best known to him. He is greedy!
Exactly his point. You can't be vilified because you differ with Chamisa. Pure nonsense. Dougie for President
Thank you so much Trevor for this conversation. Big up to Mwonzora he was on point, hope he will walk the talk especially on issues to do with constitutionalism and principles as they are preparingfor the congress. Populism breeds mediocrity, Populism breeds dictatorship. Siyabonga👋👏👏👏👏
Thanks Trevor
Thank you for this instalment of your show as usual Trevor and Company. Keep up the good work
Mwonzora you always remind me of Bishop Abel Tendekai Muzorewa although I still believe the latter was a much better politician.
Mwonzora is intelligent !! A smart politician.
Unfortunately, an intelligent smart politician could not even win a single ward.🤣🤣😂😂
This is really convincing from Mwonzora, wish him all the best in what he is planning
To be honest, these are not the hard hitting questions about the man that we would like to hear. It seems like some autobiography of some sort. Douglas does have some fighting qualities and lots of legal knowledge. I am not so sure that would be enough to make him a successful leader. Mukoma Dougie lacks charisma, tact and ability to win hearts and minds. At the risk of sounding elitist, constitutionalism, principles and legality are all virtues that we all love, however that alone without the skill to reach across the aisle and solve internal disputes is not enough to win votes or create a united party. Rather populism and personality play a great part on the voters at large and Dougie doesn’t appear to have mastered that art. A typical case in point is the ascendancy to power of the likes of Boris Johnson, Donald Trump, Dutete, Jeremy Corbyn, Mugufuli,...l hope you get the point.
Trevor you go beyond the sensational indeed!
Monzora, you seem you are well versed in the law but a lot is desired of you. As much as how NC assumed leadership of Mdc was not constitutional, I think if you wanted to uphold your principles, you could have left the party and not have campaigned for NC and even contested for the position in a party that was going against your principles. Your illegal recalls makes you complicit with zanu pf in the deprivation of the electorate.
Very insightful and from the experience this man has,I personally think he has what it takes to be a leader,as long as he does not divert,like others have done.Once in power,many promises are broken because you are now dealing with reality rather than presumptions and wishful thinking.Politics is dirty and it will be great to know what their party's constitution says if a leader becomes corrupt.What strict measures do they implement because I think that should be the fear factor for any leader trying to run a country.We are tired of promises.I noticed a little bit of arrogance when he talked about how he took over Morgan Tsvangirai house...that reminds me of the tactics of the ruling party.Great interview though...MDC Alliance next.
Yes senator is here.
I do support yu monzvora ,yu have a direction if the party, than the alliance is doing
I personally agree with Munzora and Trevor to move Zimbabwe forward very convincing to unite the mdc parties to vote as One for the good of the suffering people of Zimbabwe.
By-elections will show who is with the people
Great episode. Please do kindly invite Adv. Nelson Chamisa to the show.
Well said but I think Monzora was suppose to highlight others in mdc Alliance
Im impressed by the way mwonzora articulates himself. There's very little name calling or denigrating anyone, just pure facts a trend thats often lacking in the other faction
I'm here for comments.
Smart man Mkoma Dougie cool calm collected tinosvika chete
Muchasvika here?🤣🤣🤣😂😂
@@erisherm.8451 🤣🤣 haa povo yakajamuka akuna kunosvikwa lol
I like this guy
Hahaha
What a coincidence ... Is this the same Douglas that just got fired ... Zero vote ... Can't wait to get through this Conversation Lol
Learned .. experienced .. commited and dedicated guy ... Baffled as to why he didn't get even a single vote .. Could it be he's not known by the public .. Inadequate campaign ... Splitting of MDC ... He sounds like he's got the knowledge to make a good Leader ... not sure about the practicalities though
MDC Alliance and MDC T should just unite.This man is a treasure.Chamisa and Mwonzora can make a powerful combination.
Were you sure about that?this guy is a liar now he is in a political dustbin.he will remembered as the mdc undertaker
The question are leading and lack depth on the current issues. Mwonzora is a bitter man after losing. Why did he took part in the election. Mashavira is his project. He is a zanu pf project . He praises the courts that are captured useless
True that. Unfortunately Trevor didnt ask incisive questions. This guy is lying through his teeth! Where was Constitutionalism when he allowed Nelson Chamisa to be appointed to VP by Morgan? Why did he agree to contest the Presidential post in the MDC-A? When did he discover MDC-A was going against the Constitution?? If these question had been answered, then we would have started talking. His group is clearly being managed from ZanuPf backroom, even a blind man can see.
So profound.
Dougie is just good at interpretation of legal framework but he doesn’t have extraordinary management skills.
What an insight. He has my support
I had always had reservations about chamisa's leadership. Am with you Mwonzora.
Kwazinorohwa matumbu ndokwazvinomhanyira 😭😭😭
Zimbabwe does not need academics anymore. It needs liberators. Very eloquent but I gurantee you a divided MDC will never remove ZANU PF from power. Vitalis Zvinavashe and company declared that they will never salute a leader without liberation war credentials. They proved it in 2008. The army overthrew Mugabe and replaced him with their preferred leader in a coup code named operation restore legacy. That's why the Mugabe lagacy is still alive and even more stronger today.
I have just given you a few examples. Constitutionalism does not work in Zimbabwe.
he is an opportunist because if he was principled he should have challenged the appointments of Chamisa as vice president by Morgan Tsvangirai in 2016 not to wait for Tsvangirai to first die.this means if he was still alive that violation of the law could be alive and unchallenged.all of them in the MDC are opportunists .they are now saying they are defending Tsvangirai yet Tsvangirai is the one who violated the constitution .they also were part of the meetings in the standing committees and national council that endorsed Tsvangirai appointment of Chamisa. all of them are power hungry morons masquerading as constitutionalist.Chamisa as successor of the struggle is sealed. 2008 we won but opposition was divided. infact the current MDC A and people of Zimbabwe are winners cause we have finally got rid of those who think they are entitled and in a struggle for positions.Zimbabwe politics if finally clean and the MDC alliance is filled with people who understand that positions and constitutions are the means to the end.Tsvangirai saw that to elevate Chamisa and present him as a formidable successor will need him to use the provision of the MDC T constitution that congress can consitutinalise illegal decisions.
Great conversation Trevor, i believe this guy. He makes a lot of sense. Its unfortunate that you can't oppose Chamisa without people saying that you have been bought by ZANU PF. Zim needs principled leaders like this one
Reasonable, mature and level headed politician
matodyira hahahaha.
He certainly has my vote!
@@mbizi4573 Did you vote for him 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
@@erisherm.8451 takabiridzirwa😂
@@mbizi4573 🤣🤣😂😂
Good attempt at PR. However, Senator you know Politics is sometimes about Charisma and likeability both of which evades you. My problem with you is that Zanu PF know better than you do that certain issues especially party matters are best solved politically rather than legally. The issue of ZANUPF leadership after the unconstitutional overthrow of Robert Mugabe was not subjected to constitunality but was solved politically. This is why Mnangagwa took over and not Phekezela Mpoko. Mnnangagwa would not want this to be subjected to a legal process because he would loose since Mpoko was supposed to take over as the only deputy president of ZANUPF at the time Bob was overthrown. It is in this context the people see you as a sell out in that ZANUPF is perceived to be supporting in a legal/constitutional process which is weakening the opposition, something they themselves would not do in their party. Finally, considering the way ZANUPF is hurted at he moment it will be very difficult for people to dispel the idea that you're a sellout considering your cordial relationship with them
ingotii handimufarire zvimwe izvi hazvichinei
From what angle was Phekezela Mpoko supposed to take over from Mugabe??? The reason for Mugabe's ouster was that attempt to eliminate Mnangagwa who was indeed the rightful vice president of ZANU PF. We all know how the second vice president of ZANU PF is appointed, so was the appointment of Nelson Chamisa as vice president of MDC. Mpoko was never the rightful heir so is Kempo Mohadi. Chamisa was also not the rightful heir as we all know that Thokozani Khupe was the rightful heir of the presidency of Tsvangirai. Unconstitionalism resulted in Mugabe being ousted from power, so is Nelson Chamisa being ousted from power. And I wonder why do you oppose ZANU PF if you advocate for a clear unconstitutional act that was done by Nelson Chamisa.
What about our book club??
The ignorance of the masses rremains the demise to our freedom. The Senator has revealed the challenge founded in administrative coherence to statute and code. His fight is clearly on process with pride for his craft. I dont see his relevance in politics but administration. However, the collapse of sense to measure finds us in this reverse mode. The MDC and its variances is not 'glueable', but maybe be a trampolin tko a better knit progression
Well you might be correct in your own right but most people see that guy as a traitor
Good as an admin officer....politicians dont operate this way. Put his face on ballot paper versus Zanu pf and you will see the results. He has score a few goals becoz Zanu pf are in his corner.
Dougie you were arrested for exercising your right to speak out on several occasions and you won the cases. You are now senator which is a position of influence,surprisingly you are not speaking out to the violation of the citizens rights enshrined in the Zimbabwe constitution which you helped draft and are fully aware of the contents of section 3 in relation to citizens freedoms and rights,dignity and respect. Douglas you are being complicit by being silent.
This guy wants to eat his cake and still have it
Great insight
Mr Mwonsora thank you for making us understand your position ..We were quick to conclude... .I love how you say Nelson is your little brother...Is this the best route for MDCT to take to resolve all your differences ........The next election is going to surprise you..MDC is fast becoming worse than Zanu ....You guys dont have the passion for people who you lead...Peoples lives are affected by stupid squabbles ......If Mugabe and Tsvangirai once united and the whole nation benefited...Why cant we follow the same model you unite with Chamisa and MDC benefits..
Hehehehe inzwa kuzvifonera
mwonzora will never win in any election against mdc A because uri mutengesi
Vamwe vanogonawo kuti iwe wakatengesa ruzivo rwekutadza kuziva kuti chii chakaita kuti vaparadzane. Ungava zvako uri weMDC-A asi pane zvimwe zvekuti unofanira kuvheneka kuti chii chadariso tichitarisa bumbiro reconstitution. Kana mafunga kuti imi muri vebato risingade constitution, chifambai nerenyu mosiya uyu asingahwine nemaprinciples ake
@@Ray-ku9ds 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂. Uchiko here
@@erisherm.8451 Yes yes still alive 😁. Ini hangu I choose principle
@@Ray-ku9ds 🤣🤣😂😂. In a banana republic like Zimbabwe, that does not work. Do you think Zanu pf understand any principles?? Do you think Chiwenga and Mnangangwa understand any principles?? CHANGE IS INEVITABLE. MWONZORA IS DEAD AND BURIED
@@erisherm.8451 I fully agree with u which then begs the question; is this style of democracy really suitable for us? Would perhaps a Rwanda model suit our countries a lot better? I look at SA right now, things also getting a bit messy there gradually with ANC losing power slowly but surely.
Recalling mdca mps and $7 million heist belonging to MDCA is not constitutional
judas guy this mwonzora
Glad got the presidential candidate.
We love Nelson Chamisa not you Douglas Togarasei Mwonzora
Judiciary is captured..banana republic..
Waal you have come a long way Dougie, it is your time to retire from politics now , motambawo nezvizukuru kumba
I see a young Mugabe in Chamisa. Zimbabwe should not allow anyone who disobeys his own to party's constitution to lead the country. Imagine a constitutional delinquent leading the country!
Mwonzora is breaking the constitution right left n centre just like munangagwa..NC didn't nominate himself..mwonzora was there when it happened..after all he left mdct for khupe and moved on with MDCA..where is the dictatorship?..only now mwonzora hes bitter for losing hes cunningly talking to convince people..sane people see through mwonzora..time will tell.
Did Chamisa elect himself to leadership of the party. Why did this guy not say one word when MRT (unconstitutionally) appointed Nero and Mudzuri. Why did he participate in the Gweru congress?
Viva Mwonzora
This guy is underated ,he is a treasure the fact is they should unite and form a united front
its all about you SG of mdc-t you played it all safe on both sides to keep yo chances 50-50. you n't flexible in your leadership if ever you are a leader, as you are always right since 1988. be true and that will help in yo career. lies are like a flower they bloom for a short time and fade away. since wen have police supported opposition , the courts favored the powerful opponent especially if the ones who determine the outcome knows the potential of the oppressed. time will tell. i believe you mentioned it all when you said" when i saw that all my 2014 structures leaders were being blocked" you then decided to map yo way forward regroup with them and do whatever possible to destroy the popular figure. kkkkkkk change is like a wind u may delay it but it will see the light. i beleive you are right in some cases and Chamisa was wrong. but the bigger picture must be to make the best opposition, Chamisa is the hope of many you could have strategised well since you say you are a strategist, the 2018 elections proved so. courts can't elect leaders , presidents, ........ all come from the people. not all court rulings work for the best since they mayb hidden agendas. my advice is you may become be a political history like muzorewa, some1 once said 'when conscious leaves you, it doesn't say goodbye'
You didn't ask Sen. Muwonzora about the books he is reading. Is it to suggest that the good Senator isn't a reader....? Kkkkkk
Mwonzora thinks he has to be rewarded for the work he did in his mind. He is oblivion of the fact that he is best as an administrative leader not a President. Any person that leads him should always give him credit coz throughout the conversation it is all about himself. He never takes responsibility for any actions, he blames other people. He has no sense of time and cannot understand the task at hand which is facing the incumbent government by challenging their status quo. Fighting another opposition is a waste of energy.
Sir Trevor history will remember you as man who fought for the betterment of his people...Please get us Chamisa make him undestand he also is a contributor to the crisis we are in..
Kumagumo ndokuchanakidza.
Mwonzora is cool.
I am not against you Monzora but one you were fired for going against your own boss you failed with Tekere and Tsangirai could not give you minstrel position vanenge vane zvavanoona iwe chimbozvibvunza kuti where a u going wrong
I can foresee you ruling this country one of the days. i support you. DM.
If only party constitutionalism can grow an economy, Dougie will be man.
It does because it creates stability and consistency which is what economic growth requires
John One Constitutionalism in a captured system which totally lacks independence and strong institutions to provide checks and balances? Yeah right? Keep telling yourself that.
Malvin Chadzamira captured by who, and how does it lack independence😂
John One hmm well if you think our institutions are strong then there is really no point for us to waste each other’s time, unless of course you are queuing for fuel and you have time to kill haha.
Malvin Chadzamira - that's why we need to stick to the constitutions we create. I'm not sure if you understand what constitutionalism is. I don't queue for fuel, I sell you fuel 🌝
let us go for elections ZVIPERE.... later day Muzorewa... SELLOUT PERSONIFIED
Why can't MDC be like the DA of South Africa? MDC is just circus.
Mdc is not a circus. Even RG Mugabe, Jonathan Moyo and many former Zanu Pf members know MDC is the only alternative that Zimbabwean voters accept
@@managersamuel Its a circus because they can't even follow their own constitution. They even use Zanu PF tactics fighting each other. MDC should be about policy not personalities.
@@shonaboy7554 Not true at all. Zanu Pf wants a docile MDC. You cant build an opposition that suits you. We as citizens wants a legitimate opposition not technocrats who feel entitled to rule us.Even if MDC ruled one day, we will want a legitimate opposition still not a washed up person like Gutu, Mwonzora or Kupe
@@shonaboy7554 You cant blame MDC when Zanu and its agents and moles enter MDC. Also at every chance to get paid, many deflect. This is why Chamisa is very important and popular. The idea that he is spotless, never ever left the party and unbreakable. To fix Zimbabwe, zanu must negotiate with Chamisa. He holds too much power politically and he is the answer
@@managersamuel MDC gives Zanu PF "lives" by being disorganized. This includes challenging the 2018 election results without concrete evidence but circumstantial evidence such as polling station A had the same results as polling station B. They did not even have a witness to give evidence on how the election was rigged. Zanu PF is again taking advantage of Chamisa's refusal of an extraordinary congress and seizure of the party. Had they gone ahead with the congress to select MT's successor before 2018 elections, we would not be here. 2005, MDC split because they could not agree on the introduction of the senate. No one must be above the party or else we will repeat the mistakes of history. MT availed himself to nominations, Chamisa refused. This alone should tell you what kind of person you are dealing with.
Boring rehearsed responses.
He's just good answering questions