No problem, thanks for watching! I haven't tried any of the 83mm grinders although, I hope at some point. I suppose a couple main differences may be the 64v not only being smaller but a more discreet aesthetic, and 64mm burr options and those being cheaper. I don't think you'd go wrong with either!
Hey, thanks for the comment! I think you will really enjoy the grinder, it hasn't left my worktop since it arrived - which burrs did you go for and what grinder are you moving from? I intend to get round to a review of the machine sometime soon too ☺
@@jackowens_ I had a Rancilio Rocky for many years. Sold it and got a K-Max about 18 months ago. After reading about and testing slow feeding a grinder, it kind of took away from the joy of hand grinding, especially for espresso. So I’m really looking forward to the 64V. Just got the DLC burrs. Want to give them a try before changing anything.
@@mryoyo7741 not all that often when grinding for espresso - I seem to keep it at 12-1400 rpm. When moving to filter I usually knock it down to about 800rpm… but as mentioned in the video, I haven’t conducted enough testing to evaluate if it is making much difference .
I got a defective df64 gen 2. It had a lot of problems. I had to return it, and they charged me shipping and restocking fee. Even though it was obviously broken. I am desperately trying to figure out what to get. I was looking at this and the 078s.
Well, in short I prefer the DF64v. An extension to that would be - I find the workflow slightly easier (although the Timemore is still excellent, the lid and knocker are a couple more slightly fiddly steps to take) the RPM adjust is much easier and concise to use and out of the box on both, I prefer the taste of the DF64v.
I haven’t found that to be the case with the chute, the magnets are quite strong and it remains secure. I have negated the bellows (perhaps you are meaning these rather than the chute?) as I find tapping the top is suffice to clear out any held grinds, but mine seem fairly secure when placed on top.
I get so much more retention than you, all behind the declumper even with rdt and bellows. I have to pull off the magnetic shoot and flick the declumper every time. I'm wondering why I have that issue and you don't?
That’s interesting. I don’t seem to have the problem you do, and I’m not sure why. My workflow is always 2 sprays RDT from the supplied bottle and I get zero retention without even using the bellows - I just pat the grinder on top as per the video. Apparently there is an antistatic mod coming, an ION generator for the chute.
The Gen 2 is solid. A few features less than the DF64v, and of course a little less cost. The main one’s I see are the different aesthetic, the brushless DC motor (quiet) with RPM control, and the removable chute is really nice! Adjustment mechanism I believe is different and the 64v comes with a slow feeder disc. I don’t think you’ll go wrong with either. Don’t forget to use the discount code in the description👍🏻☕️
I guess I’ll find out on the longevity. Yes, there are many distibutors to purchase from, mostly depending where you are located. Thanks for the comment!
The iPhone is made in China as well. Just saying something is made in China isn't an indicator of quality anymore. Do some research on the product itself please
Thanks for the review! I'm caught between this and the DF83V 😬
No problem, thanks for watching! I haven't tried any of the 83mm grinders although, I hope at some point. I suppose a couple main differences may be the 64v not only being smaller but a more discreet aesthetic, and 64mm burr options and those being cheaper. I don't think you'd go wrong with either!
Thanks. Great review. Makes me feel good about having one on order. Very jealous of your espresso machine. 😉
Hey, thanks for the comment! I think you will really enjoy the grinder, it hasn't left my worktop since it arrived - which burrs did you go for and what grinder are you moving from? I intend to get round to a review of the machine sometime soon too ☺
@@jackowens_ I had a Rancilio Rocky for many years. Sold it and got a K-Max about 18 months ago. After reading about and testing slow feeding a grinder, it kind of took away from the joy of hand grinding, especially for espresso. So I’m really looking forward to the 64V. Just got the DLC burrs. Want to give them a try before changing anything.
@@propertwbawesome! Yes, as mentioned in the video about their performance in the cup, I would give the DLC’s a go first- they have been very solid!
Do you change rpm more frequently? Thanks
@@mryoyo7741 not all that often when grinding for espresso - I seem to keep it at 12-1400 rpm. When moving to filter I usually knock it down to about 800rpm… but as mentioned in the video, I haven’t conducted enough testing to evaluate if it is making much difference .
Great video Jack!! Keep it up.
Thanks! 🙌🏻🙏🏻
We love ours. If Apple made a grinder this would be pretty close
Totally! Are you running the stock DLC burrs?
Yes. Got the silver model. I would say it’s the most underrated best bang for buck grinder out there
@@ScandinavianalpscoffeeroastersI feel the same. It really punches above it’s weight!
I got a defective df64 gen 2. It had a lot of problems. I had to return it, and they charged me shipping and restocking fee. Even though it was obviously broken. I am desperately trying to figure out what to get. I was looking at this and the 078s.
That’s really unfortunate. I’ve got both, and I have a review on my channel of the 078s, so let me know if you have any questions! 👍🏻
How do you feel about it compared to the Timemore you tested?
Well, in short I prefer the DF64v. An extension to that would be - I find the workflow slightly easier (although the Timemore is still excellent, the lid and knocker are a couple more slightly fiddly steps to take) the RPM adjust is much easier and concise to use and out of the box on both, I prefer the taste of the DF64v.
One thing you don't mention is that the rubber chute and wood cap are very loose and easy to knock off. It gets annoying in the workflow
I haven’t found that to be the case with the chute, the magnets are quite strong and it remains secure. I have negated the bellows (perhaps you are meaning these rather than the chute?) as I find tapping the top is suffice to clear out any held grinds, but mine seem fairly secure when placed on top.
I get so much more retention than you, all behind the declumper even with rdt and bellows. I have to pull off the magnetic shoot and flick the declumper every time. I'm wondering why I have that issue and you don't?
That’s interesting. I don’t seem to have the problem you do, and I’m not sure why. My workflow is always 2 sprays RDT from the supplied bottle and I get zero retention without even using the bellows - I just pat the grinder on top as per the video. Apparently there is an antistatic mod coming, an ION generator for the chute.
@@jackowens_ weird, if slightly frustrating. I use a couple of sprays too. I'll look out for the antistatic mod, good to hear.
Still can't decide which grinder to get. The DF64V or DF64 Gen 2? Maybe you have an insight?
The Gen 2 is solid. A few features less than the DF64v, and of course a little less cost. The main one’s I see are the different aesthetic, the brushless DC motor (quiet) with RPM control, and the removable chute is really nice! Adjustment mechanism I believe is different and the 64v comes with a slow feeder disc. I don’t think you’ll go wrong with either. Don’t forget to use the discount code in the description👍🏻☕️
@@jackowens_ awesome insight! Definitely helped with my decision. :) Thank you!
@@drwfrnndo glad it could help you 👍🏻
Made in China not sure how the longevity on this is going to be. Miicoffee is cheaper I believe also.
I guess I’ll find out on the longevity. Yes, there are many distibutors to purchase from, mostly depending where you are located. Thanks for the comment!
The iPhone is made in China as well. Just saying something is made in China isn't an indicator of quality anymore. Do some research on the product itself please