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It’s so easy to forget how important audio is! Music that doesn’t fit the mood or unintelligible audio can definitely break an otherwise perfect video.
Just great to see you, and I appreciate all the things you teach in here... you inspired me more with my canon eos m with helios lens on magic lantern. Thank you Lilly.
You’re welcome! EOS M and and Helios with magic lantern is really nice too! Did you know that you can stabilise the footage with gyroflow if you put a GoPro on top? All the EOS M footage in this was handheld which still blows my mind. Really cool. Easier with a stabilised camera of course, but you can do a lot of cool things with that ancient EOS M!
Wow, high praise, thank you so much! I love those movies and they’ve definitely influenced the aesthetics I hope to achieve with these videos. Those shots from the lens examples are from upcoming photography videos 😀
Somehow this reminds me of the endless highway scenes in Solaris which I loved 😂 it’s like 15 minutes of just driving if I remember correctly. The other day I was rewatching Casey Neistat’s Make it Count. It feels like he would cut scenes from five different countries by the time I feel I need to cut once 🤣
@@LillySchwartz I was thinking of Stalker but that was probably cos of all the outdoor stuff. Love Solaris too. There is a series of long shots in a car as you say. Filmed in Tokyo too, if memory serves. Think it is probably my age talking here but I don't like the constant cutting of modern films/tv/etc. and as for all the waving about of iphones and gopros... they can make feel seasick.
Oh, I can relate with the motion sickness from fast cuts and POV or handheld footage. I always have to make sure I don’t swerve too much while I’m shooting, or it’s hard to edit for me. I’m very susceptible to motion sickness. I edit in chunks when I have footage like that. Very annoying problem to have. Fast frantic cuts and loud hyper shouting really puts me off. I always try to make my videos calming, even when I show a lot of b-roll to keep things visually interesting.
I remember back in the 1980s... a friend of mine got a super-8 camera and we sat up all night talking about the fantastic films we were going to make.... a while later he found out how much development would cost.... and we immediately went back to taking stills. ;)
😅 I can just about imagine his face when he saw how much development was 😬 20 years ago I worked as a researcher for a documentary film maker and that was when film was still being used for shooting - not for editing anymore - and he used the unused short ends from tv channel funded projects for his personal work. Development was still an issue though and that needed to be cross funded with re-investment. Budget was such a huge issue back then. Nowadays people can make stuff like that and travel cost is the only issue if they don’t need Netflix to fund it - if they do, they’ll have to rent an expensive camera, but theoretically you can license a doc to Netflix even if it’s not shot on their approved gear. All of that is so much easier now.
@@LillySchwartz yes... the price for just 8mm made us both swear a lot... I assume your documentary maker was using 35mm!!! But I suppose the price isn't that crazy when you think in terms of "one roll of stills per second".
@@edgeeffect Oh yeah, it was 35mm film and budgets were really high because of it. One of my jobs during that time was reading through the lists of the kind of things that were rejected by the state television funding and the reason was often "too intellectual" even with projects that were entirely nonsensical. It was the main reason why I didn't try to break into that field back then because it would have been too depressing when the funding agencies had such a low opinion of the average viewer. Nowadays it's so easy to go it alone and only pay for travel expenses etc. So much better.
I started shooting film in 1978 and I've never stopped. I've taught and done research using digital imaging based processes, but I'll never involve in my personal life.
I definitely won’t stop either and I will always prefer film, but alas, budget restraints. I’m so curious about shooting super 8, but I definitely can’t afford it 😅 and then there is the problem of discontinued film stocks. For a good long while I felt like I couldn’t risk starting a long term project on colour film anymore because it will end up discontinued like Fuji Pro 400H. Discontinuation of a couple of Fuji stocks ended one of my projects and that was super frustrating. I think with these emulations I have a chance to continue perhaps.
@@LillySchwartz I've never used colour film. Kodak killed off my favourite B+W stock in 2011 during their restructure after I'd used it for decades, which upset me quite a bit.
@careypridgeon oh, was that Plus X? I only ever shot one roll of it. I mostly shoot Ilford films, HP5+, Kentmere. I’m glad that doesn’t seem to be going anywhere.
@@LillySchwartz yes, I absolutely loved it, but since I'd long since stopped reading any news about photography I had no idea it was about to be discontinued. If I had known I'd have filled my freezer with so many rolls of it it's quite possible I'd still have some now. I go out quite often, but am extremely choosy about when I'll take a picture, so one roll can take several months to finish. Even on my 6x17, with its 4 images per roll of 120 It can take me weeks to finish one roll. At the moment I'm only part way through a roll I put in at the start of september. It is a field camera style one though, so takes longer to set up and take a picture.
i found that for still work, people are so tired of the clinical look of most camera and lens combinations that even for professional work, using old lenses on my old fujis has become a desirable look. (also, the 10yo fuji x cameras have a better look than the most recent ones, as gxace also points out)
Definitely true! You see it in all the movies too. Clean and perfect is boring. I think while perfect was still unattainable it was desirable, but now that every phone can take sharp clean pictures we all want something less clinical? And it’s not as if there is anything innovative happening for still cameras anymore. Any 10yo camera will do great now. Only video improved in the last 10 years imho. What’s your favourite old lens?
@@LillySchwartz My favorite is the jupiter 8. I like the m39 mount for size reasons, the lenses are much smaller and give my xpro a really classic look. I have the lens in 4 versions, from early to late, and the early one has amazing bloom, a focus aid knob and is a great pairing with fuji. In this, i do want to say I think fuji has great colour science, and their xtrans sensors are, to me, above and beyond anything out there. (for still shooting)
Oh yeah, the Jupiter 8 is definitely a nice one! I have it too, but didn’t want to make the lens section too long. I’m planning to make a whole video about vintage lenses, which is why I only showed my favourites in this one. The form factor of m39 really makes such a huge difference. Same with m-mount lenses. Perfect for full frame sensors. Fuji definitely has great colours, it was between Fuji and Panasonic for me in my camera upgrade, but I couldn’t really justify a medium format camera right now and I definitely needed full frame if I want to match the look of my work on film. Panasonic colour science is really close to Leica, it grades beautifully.
@@LillySchwartz Fair enough. Looking forward to the future videos. I was into the full frame for a while with canon, but I enjoy the larger depth of focus I get with 1.6, and for my style I don't think there is any drawback. If I ever want the benefits of FF, I pick up the medium format and shoot film.
I also shoot MFT, and there it’s a matter of distortion. Wide angle lenses are just really hard to correct with those crop factors and my 14mm / 28mm equivalent is just a mess honestly. I do enjoy the form factor though, since I often carry two cameras, one for photos, one for video and my S5 IIx is heavy compared to my micro four thirds cameras. It makes more sense to use my expensive M mount lenses full frame, so that’s why I went properly full frame instead of messing with focal reducers and all that stuff. I can still crop into the sensor on the full frame too and shoot APS-C which gives me two focal lengths from one lens without having to detach the lens like with a focal reducer. APS-C is definitely a valid choice though, I stuck with that for a long time with digital. Most of the time I still grab a film camera for stills though because of the shooting experience.
I’m allergic to gluten and can’t have any of the processed substitutes either, so at most some almond muffins twice a year 😂 that’s a pretty random question 😅
I looked through a friend's viewfinder once at a photofestival, but haven't shot a roll myself. It's such a beautiful camera! Definitely on my list of cameras to try properly one day.
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YES! Bad audio is a deal breaker when the images & sounds are supposed to integrate.
It’s so easy to forget how important audio is! Music that doesn’t fit the mood or unintelligible audio can definitely break an otherwise perfect video.
It's really interesting watching you explain this.
Aw, thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Just great to see you, and I appreciate all the things you teach in here... you inspired me more with my canon eos m with helios lens on magic lantern. Thank you Lilly.
You’re welcome! EOS M and and Helios with magic lantern is really nice too! Did you know that you can stabilise the footage with gyroflow if you put a GoPro on top? All the EOS M footage in this was handheld which still blows my mind. Really cool. Easier with a stabilised camera of course, but you can do a lot of cool things with that ancient EOS M!
Your channel is a piece of art dear Lilly. Thank you =)
Aww, thank you for your kind words Per! ✨
Well done!
Thank you Vincent!
Your videos are always so lovely to look at. The outdoor scenes, particularly in the bit about lenses, looked like a Tarkovsky film.
Wow, high praise, thank you so much! I love those movies and they’ve definitely influenced the aesthetics I hope to achieve with these videos. Those shots from the lens examples are from upcoming photography videos 😀
@@LillySchwartz I really like the way you take your time with the shots. You let them just 'be'
Somehow this reminds me of the endless highway scenes in Solaris which I loved 😂 it’s like 15 minutes of just driving if I remember correctly. The other day I was rewatching Casey Neistat’s Make it Count. It feels like he would cut scenes from five different countries by the time I feel I need to cut once 🤣
@@LillySchwartz I was thinking of Stalker but that was probably cos of all the outdoor stuff. Love Solaris too. There is a series of long shots in a car as you say. Filmed in Tokyo too, if memory serves.
Think it is probably my age talking here but I don't like the constant cutting of modern films/tv/etc. and as for all the waving about of iphones and gopros... they can make feel seasick.
Oh, I can relate with the motion sickness from fast cuts and POV or handheld footage. I always have to make sure I don’t swerve too much while I’m shooting, or it’s hard to edit for me. I’m very susceptible to motion sickness. I edit in chunks when I have footage like that. Very annoying problem to have. Fast frantic cuts and loud hyper shouting really puts me off. I always try to make my videos calming, even when I show a lot of b-roll to keep things visually interesting.
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Aw, thanks Maxwell :D Glad you're enjoying it! Bayonetta 🤣
@@LillySchwartz yeah whenever I see the anime character i say " hey its Lilly! " 😂
😂 well, I was definitely here first 😎
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I remember back in the 1980s... a friend of mine got a super-8 camera and we sat up all night talking about the fantastic films we were going to make.... a while later he found out how much development would cost.... and we immediately went back to taking stills. ;)
😅 I can just about imagine his face when he saw how much development was 😬 20 years ago I worked as a researcher for a documentary film maker and that was when film was still being used for shooting - not for editing anymore - and he used the unused short ends from tv channel funded projects for his personal work. Development was still an issue though and that needed to be cross funded with re-investment. Budget was such a huge issue back then. Nowadays people can make stuff like that and travel cost is the only issue if they don’t need Netflix to fund it - if they do, they’ll have to rent an expensive camera, but theoretically you can license a doc to Netflix even if it’s not shot on their approved gear. All of that is so much easier now.
@@LillySchwartz yes... the price for just 8mm made us both swear a lot... I assume your documentary maker was using 35mm!!! But I suppose the price isn't that crazy when you think in terms of "one roll of stills per second".
@@edgeeffect Oh yeah, it was 35mm film and budgets were really high because of it. One of my jobs during that time was reading through the lists of the kind of things that were rejected by the state television funding and the reason was often "too intellectual" even with projects that were entirely nonsensical. It was the main reason why I didn't try to break into that field back then because it would have been too depressing when the funding agencies had such a low opinion of the average viewer. Nowadays it's so easy to go it alone and only pay for travel expenses etc. So much better.
I started shooting film in 1978 and I've never stopped. I've taught and done research using digital imaging based processes, but I'll never involve in my personal life.
I definitely won’t stop either and I will always prefer film, but alas, budget restraints. I’m so curious about shooting super 8, but I definitely can’t afford it 😅 and then there is the problem of discontinued film stocks. For a good long while I felt like I couldn’t risk starting a long term project on colour film anymore because it will end up discontinued like Fuji Pro 400H. Discontinuation of a couple of Fuji stocks ended one of my projects and that was super frustrating. I think with these emulations I have a chance to continue perhaps.
@@LillySchwartz I've never used colour film. Kodak killed off my favourite B+W stock in 2011 during their restructure after I'd used it for decades, which upset me quite a bit.
@careypridgeon oh, was that Plus X? I only ever shot one roll of it. I mostly shoot Ilford films, HP5+, Kentmere. I’m glad that doesn’t seem to be going anywhere.
@@LillySchwartz yes, I absolutely loved it, but since I'd long since stopped reading any news about photography I had no idea it was about to be discontinued. If I had known I'd have filled my freezer with so many rolls of it it's quite possible I'd still have some now. I go out quite often, but am extremely choosy about when I'll take a picture, so one roll can take several months to finish. Even on my 6x17, with its 4 images per roll of 120 It can take me weeks to finish one roll. At the moment I'm only part way through a roll I put in at the start of september. It is a field camera style one though, so takes longer to set up and take a picture.
@@LillySchwartz I shoot a lot of HP5+, not tried Kentmere yet, but I've bought some Fomapan to give that a go.
i found that for still work, people are so tired of the clinical look of most camera and lens combinations that even for professional work, using old lenses on my old fujis has become a desirable look.
(also, the 10yo fuji x cameras have a better look than the most recent ones, as gxace also points out)
Definitely true! You see it in all the movies too. Clean and perfect is boring. I think while perfect was still unattainable it was desirable, but now that every phone can take sharp clean pictures we all want something less clinical? And it’s not as if there is anything innovative happening for still cameras anymore. Any 10yo camera will do great now. Only video improved in the last 10 years imho. What’s your favourite old lens?
@@LillySchwartz My favorite is the jupiter 8. I like the m39 mount for size reasons, the lenses are much smaller and give my xpro a really classic look.
I have the lens in 4 versions, from early to late, and the early one has amazing bloom, a focus aid knob and is a great pairing with fuji.
In this, i do want to say I think fuji has great colour science, and their xtrans sensors are, to me, above and beyond anything out there. (for still shooting)
Oh yeah, the Jupiter 8 is definitely a nice one! I have it too, but didn’t want to make the lens section too long. I’m planning to make a whole video about vintage lenses, which is why I only showed my favourites in this one. The form factor of m39 really makes such a huge difference. Same with m-mount lenses. Perfect for full frame sensors.
Fuji definitely has great colours, it was between Fuji and Panasonic for me in my camera upgrade, but I couldn’t really justify a medium format camera right now and I definitely needed full frame if I want to match the look of my work on film. Panasonic colour science is really close to Leica, it grades beautifully.
@@LillySchwartz Fair enough. Looking forward to the future videos.
I was into the full frame for a while with canon, but I enjoy the larger depth of focus I get with 1.6, and for my style I don't think there is any drawback.
If I ever want the benefits of FF, I pick up the medium format and shoot film.
I also shoot MFT, and there it’s a matter of distortion. Wide angle lenses are just really hard to correct with those crop factors and my 14mm / 28mm equivalent is just a mess honestly. I do enjoy the form factor though, since I often carry two cameras, one for photos, one for video and my S5 IIx is heavy compared to my micro four thirds cameras. It makes more sense to use my expensive M mount lenses full frame, so that’s why I went properly full frame instead of messing with focal reducers and all that stuff. I can still crop into the sensor on the full frame too and shoot APS-C which gives me two focal lengths from one lens without having to detach the lens like with a focal reducer. APS-C is definitely a valid choice though, I stuck with that for a long time with digital. Most of the time I still grab a film camera for stills though because of the shooting experience.
Out of curiosity, do you bake?
I’m allergic to gluten and can’t have any of the processed substitutes either, so at most some almond muffins twice a year 😂 that’s a pretty random question 😅
@@LillySchwartz I know, I was just curious, lol.
🤣 do you bake yourself?
@@LillySchwartz yes...I try, pastry.
0:34 ever tried a Ihagee exakta yet?
I looked through a friend's viewfinder once at a photofestival, but haven't shot a roll myself. It's such a beautiful camera! Definitely on my list of cameras to try properly one day.
@@LillySchwartz Hell ye! 😎