Applying to tech jobs in 2023 be like...
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How did you manage to get a job at this time?
Love your content. Love from India
good one mr frying pan
Completely 💯 accurate
"Uber (driver) - Rejected" got me dying💀
💀💀💀💀
😂
lol I didn't notice that at first so I went back hahaha it was great
RUclips - Not Enough Subscribers
69. Instagram - Rejected
The ChatGPT copy and paste was so relatable lmaooo
It's the best tool
You need to also pass it to quillbot for the 100% human-like detections haha
Yeah, nobody has the time to write that letter and be rejected. All that work for nothing.
This is the way
Unrelatable imo the queue is always full :(
Whenever I see the question "Why do you want to work at X company" on a job form I just want to write in "Because I don't want to fucking starve, thanks."
I feel like they only ask that to test your ability and willingness to bullshit.
@@christopherwillsonnah pure ego
@@lavellelee5734 You mean that they want to hear people talk about how great their company is?
Hey, a more formal reply would be 'I'm passionate about not starving to death's. Jk, 🤪
yeah me too, i want to answer '''because i need the f... money!!!!, do you think that i like to spend 8 hours of my life working????"
No joke, I legit got a job with one of Apple's contracting companies, and filled out all of the onboarding paperwork which took days and literally ten minutes after I got the email saying welcome to the team, I got another email saying they did some "restructuring" and they had to revoke the job... *after* I was already an employee
Lmao. What a cluster fuck
Did you get severance?
Thats fucked up
Same thing happened to me with a Telecom company, bro I even got my picture taken for my badge lol
That hurts man, I'm sorry
300 applications, many interviews and final rounds later....
Waitlisted.
Feels like applying to college all over again XD
300 ? Wow !
Its tuff out here in these streets but pat yourself on the back. You're doing your best but these tech jobs are actually looking for bots🤣
How are you guys getting interviewed?
I've got laid off after 6 months, I was working as a Python Backend Developer. I know the struggle. I've been interviewing since the middle of January and it's pain.
im sorry,,, ;-; I want do join the industry, do you think its worth it for me to try at this point?
You use Python as backend as well right? Django/flask? If Django , what questions do they ask in interviews? I mean I can only talk about the rest framework as I don't bother templating system they have. I just don't if Django interviews are all about that as Django has two different sides, as far as I understand.
@@maryschlidt6693 The problem is getting the interviews, Mary. The actual interviews can be easy if you're prepared. If you made the mistake like me where I thought junior backend developer would mean they give you a junior backend project, you'd be sorely mistaken. Interviews are primarily Leetcode and data structures - don't forget these are data structures you rarely use.
@@angelicking2890 Thank you, I really appreciate the response and input. I have a few questions, if you don't mind. What type of projects did they give you? I'm assuming they were more difficult, why do you think they assigned them to you?
Who even uses python for back end development?
I'm a third year cs student, I used to be super passionate about learning software and different languages and was so confident I'd be able to land a good job. Then covid happened, the layoffs happened, depression came back in full swing, and it just feels like there's no point to any of it anymore honestly
We good bro lol chill
@@gadsanchez4929 Yeah I feel you gotta keep our heads up. But homie isn't wrong tho, the feeling just isn't the same especially after all the stuff that's happen during and post covid.
I know how you feel brother. Keep pushing, and remember a job is better than no job. At the end of the day, it's just a job, there is much more to life. Recover however you can, and seek out your meaning again ❤
Unfortunately many tech workers are way overpaid. The salaries and benefits are coming back down to earth and will be on par with other fields. The gravy train is over
I pivoted to a different career so i know your pain bro. Its best if you can find a job in your field and things wont always be like this
I landed 1 job after 600 applications, and quit a few months in due to a sociopath in the office. I have 2 diplomas and am a Cambridge graduate. I do not understand this market.
*The moment you realise that some other candidate managed to write a query to point the load balancer to React.*
lmao I am wondering is this possible, know nothing about react / graphql for me though
@@user-vn4jw3ch8w the question makes no sense.
“Tough times don’t last. Tough people do.” -Faded 1990s Taekwondo billboard in my neighborhood
Tough billboard lasts.
Well as someone trying to get into this market right now, I'm terrified and feel very uneasy about my future.
Sick
same
Just don’t, not worth it
You can always work at Costco. The gravy train is over
@@catherinehernandez9445 Lil late there bud
@@billr5842 Cosco doesn't pay for a mortgage
I relate to this. I interviewed for an internship last week and pretty much answered everything and still got rejected!🤣
we getting played out here
Wait your getting interview? I get rejected before then
@@soraisfinallyhere1305 me too even though I have over 6 years of experience already, 90% of the time I get rejected before even getting to an interview
@@BlindDespairthey want 50 yrs experience bro💀
@@BlindDespair that is nuts, Yeah I got rejected from some internships bc my “background” dude I am a senior CS student? I am trying to get experience but how can I if you wont even let us get experience at an internship?!
if frying pan cant even get a job were all screwed
Spain but the s is silent
the final interview rejected thing literally just happened with me 😢 I was so mad and depressed but this video made me feel better
Happened to me applying to overnight factory jobs, too xD
Phone virtual and last interview is too much waste of time
Company ghosted me for my final interview, was able to reschedule, they asked a bunch of stuff that wasn't on the job post and then ghosted me for 3 weeks before telling me they picked someone else. But God forbid you waste their time...
I can relate to all this. My whole team got laid off recently and all my colleagues mentioned how no one is hiring or is having layoffs. The ones that interviewed recently told me that the interviews are much harder than before. So much uncertainty now. I just want to give up this year and wait till this tech job market recovers. I think it's useless to try now. Might as well take a break.
This isn't accurate at ALL smh
Everyone knows "You'll hear back from us soon." is employer code for "You'll never hear from us ever again."
I know multiple guys with FAANG internships and still no new grad offers. Chin up guys, it’ll all work out in the end. Just keep pushing.
If those guys have no new grad offers, then what hope is there for the rest of us?
@@AliMalik-yt5ex theyre also still aiming for top companies (FAANG, hot startups, etc.) . The reality is that within this market everyone should reduce expectations drastically. Any port in a storm. If those guys were to apply to regular companies they’d get something eventually.
Man, at least you get interviewed, i had applied like to 70 companies this month and heard nothing from not even one.
Wow ! insane !
You're caught in the HR trap.
Gotta make sure your resume is tight to prevent auto-rejects, and i try to go around HR screens either with personal contacts or recruiters.
@@khatdubell How exactly do I make my resume "right" because I applied to like 300 and only got one from a consultancy which didn't go well. Lol
@@LoveACommie I mean to optimize it for resume scanners.
I have no idea what yours looks like but if it’s hard to parse it lowers the odds a human will see your resume
@@khatdubellHow to optimize for resume scanners
I just got my first tech job! Apply everyday. You need to catch these listing the day they pop up! Keep getting better and investing in yourself. Stay positive that's number one!
@Swearinge94 how's it going so far?
Loved the video! I got very lucky. I swapped jobs right at the height of the tech market before all of the layoffs when I was fighting off recruiter spam.
I am just finishing my master degree. And I have been applying all over, thinking it would be piece of cake since I have excellent grades and some internships at good companies.
Then you go out and during interviews it really feels like they are not trying to find reasons why you would fit the job, but rather try to find things that disqualify you.
Or how you are not experienced enough or we found someone more experienced when it's for a fucking junior position with 0 years of experience.
But the most bullshit reasons for me are when you talk to people working there and asked them why they chose this company or this role blabla. And you think yeh I agree, so during the interview you use them. And then later you get a call, yeh we did not like your answer to those questions.
🎉
facts same in my field I studied fashion design and most junior positions for anything they ask for 5 years experience within the same position type which is impossible or entry level position that ask for a bachelors degree with a salary of 32k a year ......
At least you’re getting interviewed, I’ve been applying for a month now, no interviews yet.
Heartbreaks is when companies post entry level jobs but expect +8 years of corporate experience 💀
It’s somehow a little less hard to digest when companies say “we’ve stopped hiring for that role” instead of saying “we’ve decided to move on with other candidates” for some reason.
Oh yeah making it till the last round on an interview you thought went well and still getting rejected is literally hell.
For held desk too hahaha 5 year experiencia o low payment add you need marketing and financials experiences wtf is this 5 roles
Love that your mom is supporting you
Saw a job posting for an entry level position with a requirement for 7 years experience
More realistic version:
Aceing all technical interviews and behavioral interview at final interviews.
After a few week, get an email about something like this:
Although your qualifications were impressive, we have decided to move forward with other candidates.
Bro legit 💀💀💀. They be telling you that you are a great candidate and that you got that job in your pocket and the next email they straight up reject you and you're left thinking "Whte tf did I mess up ???".
500 apps 😂 10% response rate, 3 interviews, 1 final that I did very well and yet still got rejected. Guess even having experience ain’t shit now
I told them. They will start with juniors and end with middls. Now only seniors left. Hope they improve chatgp . And company fire them.
This all happened to me, including doing well on every interview and getting rejected, making it to the final round only for it be cancelled without notifying me (empty zoom call…), and making it past multiple rounds to get to an on-site, getting it cancelled due to layoffs, and then reapplying when they opened that exact same role again and getting auto rejected in under two hours 🙃
Sorry to hear that, friend. It’s tough out here. Wishing the best for you
@@charidhermin5794 thanks, appreciate it
As up update to this, after 5 grueling months of interviewing I did finally get an offer. It was a 10-15% pay cut compared to my last job but it's fully remote so I moved to cut my living expenses. Good luck to everyone else out there
@@gautam-narula great news! You made it!! I’ll see you on the other side soon I hope.
@@charidhermin5794 Thank you, good luck to you as well!
Lol even got the detail of the interviewer not having their camera on
this ndex company seems great hopefully they change idea and hire you!
I have been working in IT for 18 years, have a bunch of recent certs from Cloud to Cyber security and I'm still getting a bunch of rejections. Was told last week from one interview my experience was too broad.... Well yeah!?!?? I have been working in IT for nearly 2 decades! Then we hear the usual BS "we can't find anyone in IT" or "There is an IT skill shortage" and we have a bunch of IT workers being rejected for the most basic roles. I'm sure companies are just making up the rules as they go along.
i guess its time to make your own company
Bro I got rejected from a junior position when I did almost everything perfectly. In their hard skills assessment test I outperformed 90% of their candidates (that's a feedback you get after you complete the test) third interview comes in and I straight up do near perfect too. I'm saying near perfect because I misunderstood some of their questions but got to the answers eventually. Showed great softskills both during and after the interview and I thought I had the interview.
"Sorry to inform you but..." like F off let me fcking work jesus christ 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
Remember when everyone and their mothers said to learn to code and that the market needed thousands of employees? Yeah, that was a lie...
Literally my mother
Literally my half bro 😂
Literally my dog
Fr now ik bout to graduate in the worst job climate for tech ever…thanks
They did need a bunch of employees… 4 years ago
big things coming Pan 😤😤😤
Someone tells you get a job .
You show them the list of the 1000 jobs you applied to and got rejected from just this week even though you qualifications should've guaranteed a spot at atleast one of them .
I HATE when they reply “we’re moving to another..” or they just ghost me after multiple interviews!!
Tech is oversatured at the bottom end (bootcamps, this "lern2code" and "cybersecuritee" stuff) and companies are having to cull even experienced hires. It's looking a bit bleak.
I've seen some people laid off whose talent blew me away. They're unemployed.
What do you recommend? Pivoting to another career?
Same question
also wondering
@@ExistentialSadness the market will turn back it always does
This is poetic justice for my half bro who is a product manager for zynga who always was like learn c0de nO0b
Not believable. They would never give you the rejection that fast, they'd make you wait six weeks to hear back.
After 7 years in Data and IT, I feel exhausted. Laid off in December, did so many interviews, and......I'm a credit analyst now, because I give up. Feels like I gave everything, and got depression in return.
World is changing, it will never be like before. Don't be a hostage of one skill - get as many as you can and you will bi fine
This is a really interesting video. I am age 59, in the UK and not an IT graduate but used to build early AI systems and also worked in business, had my own consultancy and also worked in academia in some of the top global business schools teaching Masters/Doctoral level simulation and statistics.
Struggling to get into work. Every advert wants Python/SQL/Tableaux/PowerBI programmimg skills blah blah. You might be surprised that a lot of what you the young people on here are saying sounds familiar to an old guy like me. There is a massive hidden job recession happening. I have had all the same excuses given to me for not getting a job. At least you young guys haven't yet had the experience of a Big Four global consultancy admitting they had advertised a salary above the level they intend to recruit at and then suggest they might give me an interview if I was willing to pre agree I would accept a graduate level salary with 35 years experience.
No thanks. I have actually trained McKinsey graduates! 🙄
Lies from 2019: "Get a degree in CS, theres not enough tech workers to meet the demand"
Reality: "We hired too many of tech workers"
Don't forget the part in the interview where they mention that a lot of candidates applied for this job
Google Layoffs 12000 employees from 190,000 ,now there are 178,234 full-time employees !!!
At first I was shocked by the number of layoffs in many companies, but the biggest shock was the number of employees they had, WTH!!
In fact, I am very ignorant of what they do!😅
Not much.
I got an interview for a developer position cancelled 3 minutes before it should have started. I waited the rest of the day for an email with an explanation, but it never came. When I sent a very politely worded emailed the next day I got a "Yes, it got cancelled. It was obvious, didn't you see? We are not hiring right now".
Wtf what company is that, expose them lol
@@FryingPan It's a pretty popular and well liked company with 50 employees, so I feel bad throwing them under the bus because of a bad hiring manager/recruiter. It's located in Copenhagen, Denmark.
what a douchebag of a recruiter. Just unprofessional
@@mplovecraft Emperor Palpatine voice: "Do it!"
there should be an amount companies have to pay for the interview phase...
Was waiting for him to start typing the interviewer question into ChatGPT. XD
I feel this btw, I was on a set of interviews from December 2022 to until just a while back / Feb 2023.
From presentations, case studies and so on. It's pain. Only good thing is that we mainly don't have to go back and forth to the offices for each interview.
I've been straight ghosted... never happened to me before. I would at least get an email or call that they chose someone else.
This is pretty accurate except the fact you got a response instantly that they're not moving forward
Shoutout June that app idea sounds awesome! Can't wait to see it in its final form!
I'm surprised Blindr is full, with so much potential I'd be expecting a massive opening soon :3
Damn you're a CEO now.. you guys hiring? (asking for a friend 👀)
Please ask them to submit their application through the careers portal (will send an extremely hard OA of 150mins then ghost you)
@@FryingPan dude make a video explaining about it
Main reason you need connections in life
Disgusting but true
Way too relatable. I had a two month interview cycle with one company that I thought had gone well. A week after the final interview they sent me a generic rejection email.
After 1 and a half month in hiring process and having passed the background checks for amazon, literally one day before my last interview they just told me they have cancelled all new hirings
this was hilarious , after so long felt so relatable ..
Meanwhile I have a job but I am always on edge wondering whether there will be another round of layoffs
As someone going through this now, so true!
So, how to write a sql query to mutate the LB so that it points to a different react component?
this is so so relatable .
I'm up to about 500 applications, and so far only one first-round down and two more scheduled. And that's with 8 YOE. I haven't even gotten to the bit where they ask me to invert a Paxos graph in COBOL in linear time on a Commodore 64, or whatever. 2023 sucks.
Q: please write me a query in JS to point to interact with the on-screen web app for music.
Pretty accurate. Going through the same phase right now
Don't forget the "We are going to keep your application for future openings" smh
or tell me about yourself, wtf it's on my resume. I'm just tired y'all
I have only 80 applications in Notion. We are not the same.
(yes we are, everything is spot on, wtf)
I kept hearing about all these job openings in tech and was thinking of making a career change, now I see this while I'm literally having people email me asking me to apply for their jobs (I'm an environmental consultant). I guess I'm stuck here 🤷♀️
I'm midway through my diploma in full-stack web app and I'm...worried about this. If people who are experienced are having trouble, what chance does a grad have?
@@hanaorikuu2575 chances are few, never too late to start cooking meth
@@hanaorikuu2575 just lie about exp. But prepare good. so not end in blacklist.Also i hope some tech giants will collapse. It will make others to be smart.
@@hanaorikuu2575 you’re literally right trust your gut, find a useful way to provide something meaningful. We don’t need devs
The simple truth is that tech workers are way overpaid for what they do and everyone knows how to code. When you factor in AI the outlook is even worse. Find a career that actually helps people or provides a good product and you'll make money
I'm just trying to figure out if I should keep trying or just give up on life already
My hunt a first web dev job lasted about 5 years and involved many hundreds of applications. Finally gave up on getting into it at all. But I can still make stuff, so that's cool I guess.
The struggle is so real ..... 😅
Going through the same stuff .......
95 applications to internships. 1 interview. Didn't make it to technical. Feels hopeless lol
The mouse smashing all throughout is *chef’s kiss* 😂
I picked the perfect time to graduate from a bootcamp didn't I :')
What bootcamp was it? Good luck to you
Super relatable!! What was the track/song you have as your outro? Sounds groovy
Graduate in December the struggle is real...
Yoooo that bed view thooo..... i'd be mindlessly staring into the city all night
why is this crazy accurate 😭
In the past 6 months I went through a company insolvency, got 3 offers, all of them postponed or declined last minute. Applied many many times. Heard of my other colleagues that got hired and fired within 3 months. Many companies closing, laying people off. I got a job pretty recently, only bc of my small portfolio project that stood out. I have literally zero expectations. I can as well be fired pretty soon with no consequences to the company. Hope everyone survives this time.
What is happening with tech companies? I'm studying a mobile development with Kotlin, but these things leet me a little afraid.
@@micaelalgarrao6043 there is recession, companies are losing money so they spare them where they can. I personally think it's temporary, but the hype won't get as high as around 2021 (but who knows). There is more people on the market rn, so there is more hussle. But I'm sure it will loosen in couple of months/a year or two. If I were you I'd just keep studying, create an interesting portfolio (I did a mini JS game and people loved it), work on professional connections by going to meetups or webinars. I live in Europe and a demand for mobile devs/QAs is still high. As well as fullstack (I'm a frontend). So Kotlin is a good choice in my opinion (but it's still just an opinion - you'll have to research information a bit). Also, it looks like it's only in my area (I live abroad) and startups were very affected. In my homeland it looks quite peacful from what my friends say.
@@jip8793 well yeah in Europe it seems to be easier to land a job. I moved to the US from Russia and now I'm looking for a job and let's just say it's sad what's going on in tech in the US market. But in Russia there are still lots of jobs and they are easy to get. Literally the longest it took me to get a job as an engineer was 9 days. Now I've been looking for a job for 2 months and no result.
I think it's just because it's cheaper to hire someone in India, Russia or Europe than in the US, so that's why there's still job in Europe I guess
JD requirements :
- You need to be alive
You apply, receive an e-mail next day:
"We regret to inform that ..."
I literally have placements from July idk how Imma survive in the current situation 💀
Literally my experience this year...🤣🤣🤣🤣
we're all going through it 😂
@@FryingPan At least we have you to comfort us through the times with such great content. You're a legend man🙏
Waiting on a company for their decision after i went through 7 rounds… frigging terrified😂
7 rounds? dear god...
More like "You'll hear from us soon" and then you don't.
that chatGPT part though :D. anyway, good luck to everyone looking for a job.
ty
“Mike Hawk” lmao 😂
Thank god i literally landed a job right before the hire freezes lol. In tech sales though, not engineering
Get that squarespace bag king
i love the chatgpt part😂
"please use GraphQL to write the load balancer to point to a different react component"
LOL. This one had me chuckle. I would have responded "would you also like me to create a binary tree inside a motherboard using a toothbrush?"
I heard a story when they asked to have exp of 5 years. For language which was like 3 years old.I hate hr and companies. When i become senior i will be the most toxic for hr and company and maximum loyal to juniors.
I was also confused and then needed to chuckle xD This was a god one
One time I was asked to write a Java class that was capable of making several thousand API calls, parsing the data received from those calls, and presenting the relevant information to the user in under 20ms from the moment the JVM starts with this program to the time it ends, in a 30 minute technical interview section. JVM startup overhead is usually like 70ms. I can't imagine anyone actually made that work, unless they were like "I refuse to use Java for this question"
@@sephirot7581 I'm not confused, I just know what they are asking is impossible, so I offered an equally ridiculous impossible answer. When companies asks questions like that, they clearly don't know how the languages and infrastructures work or what their purposes are for... best to just move on as you can expect that sort of thing on the job.
Another equivalent and accurate representation would be "would you also like me to use html to have my keyboard to tell the keys to vibrated during my key strokes?"
@@DidYouExpectSomethingHere I would have told them... "no, instead I will modify the api endpoint to query the database to pull the relevant information that is required passed through the http request, or I can just walk and go work for a company who doesn't use bad coding practices."
Aint no way thats a real interview. The graphql question is too easy 😑
Me, not even a coder and not understanding a thing of the last question:
"Haha yes!!1!"
I don't get the developer job market right now, but it might just be because I specialize in backend Kotlin, don't know k8s, and don't want to do "full" stack.
My company was hiring for an intermediate developer, and all we got were inexperienced applicants who could put a lot of buzzwords on a resume, but had no idea how to actually build something.
At the same time, I'm applying elsewhere for a senior position, and can't get the time of day.
So is there a shortage or overflow of experienced developers? I can't tell.
Most candidates are rusty and not unskilled. Most candidates are now required to code stupid leetcode tasks till exhaustion so they can prepare for the interview. Most candidates have to learn unnecessary information that will never be brought up during their jobs. Can't blame them. Been working on a real project for over a year and a half and after a month of doing leetcode and remembering the java core, DSA, JDBC etc. etc. my skills have gone rusty as well.
Can't blame the candidate for that...
good luck pan
Xin's #1 Fan!!!
Oh man, this is totally how I feel these days. The startup I work at lost funding and I've been in search for about 2 months now though already have over 6 years of experience. Companies are either completely ignoring or saying that went with someone else or say that position was paused/canceled. Starting to lose hope that I'll find a remote job with a fair compensation again in the near future. It's really depressing but your video makes fun of this situation well.
Fair compensation... LOL. Tech workers are way overpaid. You'll have to accept a value that is more on par with other fields. Tech is going to be absolutely saturated. Everyone and their grandma is entering the field. There's a huge line of people willing do your job for far cheaper!
@@billr5842 then good luck doing it for cheaper :) Spending your free time learning another of billion libraries, concepts, patterns and frameworks while customer or manager keeps fucking your brain out with unreasonable requests or dealing with some complicated bullshit. If 5000$ for a senior position in your view is overpaid while I was making nearly half as much just washing dishes as a student in the US then I don't know how you imagine to live your life.
@@BlindDespair They are... that's why salaries are going down and youre having trouble finding a job lol. There TONs of people lining up to do these jobs and they can learn the material. People in foreign countries are very hungry too. AI is growing which will further squeeze things. I don't even work in tech and I know how to program with c/c++/python lol. This happens to many fields. Are you talking $5000/year? Wtf? That is pretty low lol. I work in healthcare and make good money
@@billr5842 a month, lol
Knowing how to make hello world with c/c++/python is very different from being able to build an end-to-end solution that requires a lot more knowledge than just knowing how write an if statement and for loop in a specific language.
@@BlindDespair 60k per year is pretty fair for a programmer in my eyes and I believe the market will reflect that soon too. I'm decent at programming not an expert, but it's extremely boring and tedious so I didn't pursue it more. With more dedicated time I could be proficient pretty quick and be employable. Thankfully I don't have to worry about that and I can do it as a hobby
One question cross over db, devops and frontend, just absolute amazing
boss is back !!!
So true 👍🏽
Life is so funny what are the odds pan actually ended up unemployed too 😂😂😂😂
Going through this process at the moment, its sooooo shit!!
nah, i work as a linux backend guy and my linkedin inbox is filling like always. beginning a new job would take 2 days (germany)
(Not America)
You should move to New Orleans. There are new startup forming down there. Cost of living is cheap, and SV/SF and NY are starting to lose out to Austin TX and the South.
Im currently.. o..o actually my mother wrote my employment submission and I didn't talk to people for 1 year and the job requirements says I will be with professional analysts programmers o..o I think I will get rejected and die of cringe 💀