Warren Street, the Station with Many Names and Faces | Hidden London Hangouts (S07E05)
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In this episode, the team burrow into the history and the hidden spaces of Warren Street, a station with several names and faces.
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02:11 The "weird handles" are a relatively recent addition to help when accessing the lower escalator machine room through the hatch beneath them.
Thanks for that explanation. Curiosity satisfied!
YOU ARE BRILLIANT. They also help me if I’m drunk 😊
Railway lines dug mainly by hard working semi and completely illiterate men ,paid a very low wage, a lot of what of became The London underground was dug by Irish labour force, with no health and safety, so we should appreciate the testament to these workers everytime we get on a train, And that is why I appreciate your videos so much ,so I say thank you
Love the blue - has to be my favourite colour
Use Warren Street occasionally - a subtle gem !
Stair shaft. How lovely
The more episodes I watch the more I understand the layout and recognize the features. These lift gates were a great detail that I don't remember seeing before. Also, I totally love the old station name signs!
Why do LU cover those station histrionic past with dull/sad grills, when there’s more to see inside?.
They make a sound it's hard to forget. And to have a lift man or woman was redolent of better days, in some respects.
The grey tiles on the Victoria Line replaced by cream ones, same at Brixton. They really go well with the green and orange motifs in the seat recesses at the latter.
Another reason that Warren Street doesn't have cross-platform interchange is a result of incorporating them at Euston and Oxford Circus. The Northern(Bank Branch) tunnels at Euston are roughly East-West but slightly opposite to the direction of travel (north-bound tunnel faces south, and the south-bound tunnel actually points north). To line-up, the Victoria line swaps to "right-hand running" at Euston so that the north-bound platform is on the right hand side, rather than on the left like at most other stations, to align with the orientation of the Northern line platforms. To fit cross-platform interchanges at Warren Street would have required the Victoria line platforms to be built on the existing north-south axis of the Northern line platforms, requiring a sharp corner to/from Euston, with the tunnels also having to swap over between Warren Street and Euston in a very confined distance (expensive), plus longer tunnelling to Oxford Circus. Quite a lot more engineering difficulty and construction expense for one more interchange, especially given Northern/Victoria line changes could be made cross-platform at Euston except for south-bound Victoria/Northern(CC Branch) and north-bound Northern(CC Branch)/Victoria interchanges. Having two consecutive Northern/Victoria line interchanges probably gave the designers comfort that there was enough overall capacity for interchanges between the lines.
Nice work - thanks for this
It is an absolute privilege to see what lies behind the public facade. The beautiful old tiles were made to last and can still be seen in many places on the underground. The colour of anything is subjective to the quality of the light incident and reflecting and those "black" tiles have a hidden secret - just as the tube has many hidden secrets. Great video guys!
I really enjoy the hidden parts. I saw a few before I left in 1989. I sometimes wish I had stayed!
SSSQQQUUUEEE !!! -wasn't expecting HLH this weekend but what a lovely surprise !!!!
Love the Fab Three's enthusiasm for the beautiful blue tiles - definitely not Singin' the Blues at Warren Street. Sure wish those circular staircases were still in use as an option - a wee bit of exercise.
There's lots left. That G. Marshall bloke had a running joke about them on London Connections.
Father Dougal: I read an article about priest's socks, that priest's socks are blacker than any other socks.
Father Ted: That's right. Sometimes you see lay people wearing apparently black socks, but if you look closely, they are really very, very, very very dark blue.
Father Dougal: That's true. I thought my Uncle Tommy was wearing black socks but when i look at them closely, they were just very, very, very, very, very, very dark blue.
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Never buy socks in a normal shop. They'll shaft you every time.
Strangely I had the same thought when they were talking about the tiles.
Great episode - used Warren Street back in the 80s when my then girlfriend worked at the Barclays Bank around the corner.
RE: The 'blue/black tiles': It is a bit of an enigma when considering if the 'blackness' is not the original 'hue' (I may be misusing the term), but the tiles presented themselves more readily as 'blue' when first installed?
Or perhaps the contrary: They were originally conceived as having the most 'permanence' of shade, especially with the much dimmer light, as close to black as possible, based on the pigment (probably a metal) being used? Pure black typically consists of a myriad of all colours, many of which, the reds for instance, readily fade with time.
Been through here, interchanged here many times. Great to see. The green is actually blue (believe it or not), cerulean blue. Those blue tiles are heavenly.
The real Warren Street isn't adjacent to the station and has no significance. The station was called Euston Road but people thought it was the connection for Euston main line. Half way down Tottenham Court Road was the very aptly named Tottenham Court Road Station, but it turned out that people actually wanted to be near the shops that were at the bottom of the road, rather than the middle where there wasn't very much excitement. Meanwhile at the bottom of the road the station was called Oxford Street and passengers were enormously disappointed to realise that when the emerged onto the surface, they had a very long walk to get to Selfridges and the like. So Oxford Street was renamed Tottenham Court Road, Tottenham Court Road was renamed Goodge Street (another place nobody particularly wants to be) and Euston Road became Warren Street. Nowadays the shops at the bottom of Tottenham Court Road are all electronic goods. I wonder what they were in 1907?
I think they should rename them Centre Point, Telecom Tower and University College Hospital just to help the tourists a little! 😂
22:16 in New Zealand. Did you spot the blanked out parts of the Northern Line near the beginning of the video. I think they were also at Goodge St. one refers to the northern city line to Finsbury Park and the other to the cancelled Northern Heights extensions.
Yes, I'm just that little bit too young to remember the Northern City Line at Finsbury Park Low Level. I did manage a couple of rides from Moorgate to Drayton Park and back in 1938 Stock though😅!!
Always wondered what was behind some of those maintenance doorways on the underground. The original tiles you found are amazingly well preserved when cleaned. You wouldn’t get that level of workmanship and patterns in them today.
Warren Street is unusual for an interchange station, in that there's no low level connection between the two lines. You have to go up an escalator, or stairs, to the central landing, at the bottom of the escalators from the concourse, to change lines. In other words, you have to use the normal exit and entrance stairs and escalators, not a separate interchange connection.
Yes, they endeavoured to provide as much same level and cross-plstform interchange with other lines as they could when they built the Victoria Line. At Warren Street it just wasn't possible.
I have a VHS copy of Death Line, it's a great film
I've seen that film, Aldwych "doubled" as Russell Square! Donald Pleasence was quite funny.
Entertaining, educational, and fun. This series gets better and better....
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Brilliant video team,another classic Hidden Hideout.
Great episode! I too never realised those tiles were blue. The subtle George Michael reference made me lol
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Gotta love Warren’s Treat!
1000 out of 10. BRILLIANT BRILLIANT EPISODE
Absolutely fascinating thankyou for that tour!
Great episode guys, even Alex's cleaning of the tiles made me smile, love tiles around the station
The "Euston Road" freize being retained on the Northern Line platforms probably provides a bit of confusion for strangers to the area wanting to alight at Euston!! A chap on Thameslink went straight past St Pancras International because he was looking for King's Cross, and finished up in Croydon!
Warren Street's "maze" motif is a pun similar to Brixton's "Ton of Bricks!!" I can remember when the escalators to the Northern Line, and the ones to the ticket hall, were still of the old wooden type! Also, the ticket barriers were of the turnstile, or "tripod" variety!!
Hi Alex, Laura, Chris & Siddy Ive only just found this channel London Transport Museum what a fantastic informative channel and im actually spending alot of time catching up on your various videos of hidden London hangouts always been interested in secret tunnels and tube tunnels.
Keep up the good work and good luck im off to watch some more stuff.
Marc Hampson in Bletchley
PS im a massive Radio Listener and have heard Alex on the lovely Joanne Good radio show on BBC Radio London
Bless you for watching…and for listening. Really kind and much appreciated ❤
Now get yourself on a real tour as a treat.
Worth every penny.
Hang on, if I say that, they'll put the prices up.
Yeah, they're okay.
Alex channelling his inner George Michael was the comedy highlight here!
Yes I’ve been baaaaad…..
Very excited to see this edition of the Hidden Hangouts, because Warren Street is my second most used station when I visit London, as I usually stop in the area! I always point the 'Euston Road' tiles out to my friend, but you'd never know the tiles above were blue unless you saw this video with the high beam light shining on it!
Brilliant to see behind the scenes of a station I frequent, thank-you for this video.
I'm a fan of a Bostwick gate.
The apogee was being lucky enough to use the lovely trapezoidal wood panelled, attendant operated beautifully musty time machines at Aldwych before closure with their scissor/expanding Bostwick of Willesden gates;
from my days as a Christmas casual at a G.P.O. sorting office where I got to ride the goods lifts with theirs all day that served the platforms on the massive station next door, ostensibly emptying the post boxes on a ridiculously regular basis.
Amazing, fascinating content, really good and well presented.
I imagine they did look blue when installed. But under late 20th Century fluorescent lights, they look black.
May I be honest? I think the colouration was just too subtle. The originals were obviously very blue but the replacements were very very dark.
Another awesome video as per usual! I'm in Sydney, Australia and we have some ghost station platforms and tunnels under the city. I have read some of the reports that the designer of Sydney Harbour Bridge and railway sytem John Bradfield wrote in the early 1900's after a world tour visiting other transport systems. Fascinating reading so far ahead of his time. He designed the "city circle line" to cater for the potential use of automated trains.
Loved the show, as always. Every episode seems to have surprises lurking even in the seemingly simplest stations… the blue colour in the tiles here trying to carefully hide itself as black was quite something. I wonder if the blue might’ve shone through more when the station was young because if different lighting systems or if it’s always deemed black from a distance.
As always, many thanks team!
The “it’s not actually black” moment blew my mind. Glad you enjoyed it
Lovely, I'm really excited to see around this station. The Victoria line platforms are one of the few examples of right hand running on the Tube, London Bridge being one of other locations.
I think that Euston Victoria Line is also right hand running to allow cross platform interchange with the Northern Line City branch, which runs in the opposite direction.
@@bobmoseley4978 Yes the reason for the right hand running through Euston was to allow the cross platform interchange with the Northern Line (Bank Branch platforms). Because of the short distances involved, they had to "roll" the tunnels over through the stations on either side (Warren Street and King's Cross St. Pancras) as well.
Another really informative film. The more I watch the more I open my eyes to your findings which are not behind louvered doors. The Euston Road tiles are on my to see list.
A big thank you to Hidden London for another cracking episode.
Have you guys had a look at Chancery Lane yet?
You lovely man! Yes we have - there’s a St Paul’s episode too. But Chancery is on the list. Worth it?
@@alexgrundon2346 Greetings from "Down Below" here in Perth.
If you read James Herbert's Domain, it would certainly be worth it (notwithstanding the book was fiction).
The old station building - Chancery Station House still remains and there might be some nice old lift shafts and tiles knocking around.
Really enjoy these videos, it’s unleashed my inner nerd 🤣 went to Denmark Hill today and found myself noticing little details and things I’d not have noticed before :-)
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Always look up &
Seek and ye shall find!
Thanks to you I will be more observant of my tube surroundings
Music to our ears 😉
Just received my copy of The Story of The Victoria Line and it mensions on page 2 a book called The Story of London's Underground, which is "uniform with this volume". Could anyone tell me who wrote it, as there are several books of that title with different authors? TIA.
If I may say, I think that you might be being bamboozled by all the various editions of John Day's œuvre The Story of London's UndergrounD.
@@JP_TaVeryMuch Not really, no. There are dozens of books by a dozen authors. I just asked which one it was. That was all. You could be polite and simply answer the question, instead of wasting everyone's time. Especially mine. And, since you've used an American word, I would have to assume that you're American. So, the only one "bamboozled" here, is you. Have a nice day.
@@tardismole Que vous êtes gentille.
@@JP_TaVeryMuch I don't suffer fools. There's a difference. When you're terminally ill, you don't have time to waste on piffle. Try it. It'll open your eyes.
@@tardismole Evidently.
May I wish you well and suggest that you go with the tome with the year of publication just before The story of the Victoria line?
Yet other great find by you lovely underground detectives fantastic job 🎉
Another really interesting video. Thank you. I spent a week using the station, some years' ago, because I stayed at the Grafton Hotel, which you can see in the background of one of the photos you used. I was on a training course. I'm amazed that the tiles are a dark blue and not black. What a lovely shade of blue. I wonder whether or not the colour temperature of the lights affects how they look to the human eye? Having walked the length of Euston Road/Tottenham Court Road and having used most of the stations along them, at some stage, I've seen the remains of the station tunnels on the surface of the Northern Line Express project that was never finished. I think one of them was Eisenhauser's bunker during WW2. I'm not sure whether or not there is one near Warren Street?
I used to use Warren Street as an interchange quite regularly. I travel to York fairly regularly from my home in Kent. My journey from Charing Cross to Kings Cross would involve a change from the Northern to the Victoria line at Warren Street. I always remember a distinctive noise on the Northern line platforms and passages. It may have been the fans in the ventilation system at the time. Of course these days my local train from Kent goes into St Pancras via HS1 so now I only have to cross the road to get to Kings Cross. I always thought Death Line was filmed at Russell Square.
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I never knew all that stuff was hidden, when I walk past next time, shall know, it’s a shame they couldn’t put posters up to show what’s behind the grills at those disused sections, as they all looked rather dull and sad looking, something on the history layouts with some diagrams of the original station.
If the London underground didn't exist I dred to think what the traffic would be like in London
i think you guys should do more of this, as this entertains people on how history of stations were like.
Like at Knightsbridge I can see these lifts reopening someday to provide barrier free access.
I don’t think I’d have gone into that spiral staircase without a hard hat 🚂
We is daredevils
I'm curious to know what colour the original "Euston Road" name tiling is. Is it blue rather than black?
Name in brown. Banding in blue
Hi all another great vlog but i have a question for you all.Can you please tell me which station did they film Creep this was a 2004 horror film written and directed by Christopher Smith. The film follows a woman locked in the London Underground overnight. She later finds herself being stalked by a hideously deformed killer living in the sewers below.
Charing Cross
@@alexgrundon2346 Thanks for that Alex
But OMG Ian it was a terrible film 🤣
The tile saga of the colours may well be down to how colours were created
Black wasn't actually possible at the time to make the closest was a very dark blue hence that in darker conditions it looks black but under intense light you can see its a dark hue of blue
Also a bit of colour theory that white is the absence of all colours and black is the opposite
As technology has evolved more accurate colour printing has become available hence how replica tiles dont have the same colour variety/pigment variation that's found in the older tiles
Great episode! Does anyone know if Chris does voiceovers for ITV? I swear he voices the intros to the shows 😂
It’s not him but he does have a great voice
13:30 Turn on the subtitles. RUclips thinks that Alex Grundon is talking about the days when Warren Street was a lesbian green station! He is naughty enough on his own, without RUclips joining in. 🤣
CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!!
Loved this! A bit of history, some lovely original tiles behind the locked doors, and plenty of shaft at the end. Keep it up, team!
You are lovely! Some mic would be useful though, greetings from MX
Hey Guys ad Girls, Love your channel.Could you please tell me why the ride quality on The Elizabeth Line was so unpleasant a few months ago for me? I got on at Liverpool Street to Woolwich and for most of the journey while the train was moving, experienced a particularly nasty vibration through my entire body. I have never before suffered that on Underground, Overground or National Rail journeys
Good question. No idea but it’s as smooth as a mill pond now
Never liked Warren Street with it's ungainly interchange between N & V lines.
We’ll arrange a sedan chair for you 😉
No, I haven't watched all this vid - yet. Before I can get around to it can anyone help - and satisfy and oooold maaan's curiosity?
When WS was "my" station in mid 70s (together with Great Portland Street) I seem to remember a large window-size mirror somewhere along a passage. I had read / heard somewhere that it was a oneway mirror into a staff or technical area so I would generally casually look into it and smile. (!)
Does anyone know the truth?
Sorry, I can't check for the mirror now 'cos I don't live near London...
Those tiles are "Passport Blue".. look black most of the time.
Was this before or after Siddy's hen do? She doesn't look hungover 🤣
My only criticism is you're now doing the "here's what's coming up" thing at the start of each episode. It was parodied by Mitchell and Webb years back and always sticks out to me whenever any RUclipsr does it.
Otherwise: great episode!
Thanks. The preview is here to stay for now as it doubles at a tease, pre-release
That’s the spirit 🤣🤣 Scroll thru. Job done.
We might mix it up a bit. Some weeks 4 seconds. Others 444 seconds 🤣
In the 21st century
Alex what do you teach
Radio and journalism
@@alexgrundon2346 cool 👍👍
Siddy is not key lady lol
She was the leading lady in this episode 😊
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"Sometimes you see laypeople wearing what look like black socks. But if you look closely, you'll see they're very very very very very very very dark blue."
See below 😊
@@alexgrundon2346 Ok, yeah there's the context mentioned if someone's wondering. :) I took a look first if someone had already made the reference but I didn't notice that then.
All good. Made me smile our viewers think similarly 😉
*some time later…*
Episode 272: We ran out of stations 🫥
On an unrelated note, I love the style of these new videos, gone are the days of zoom calls! Keep it up!
It’s a mix. Some people love the zooms so we do that sometimes. Whatever works best for the episode on the day is what we do.
Yes I like the Zooms! Hopefully there'll be one in a future episode with perhaps an NQQ session thrown in eh Alex 😄
Absolutely definitely more NQQ. Just need some questions or comments from you guys now!
I used Warren Street weekly from the mid 80s when my parents had a shop on the housing estate behind what was Capital Radio and Thames TV opposite.