TORIYAMA'S HONEST OPINION of Dragon Ball Super Super Hero

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  • Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024

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  • @MasakoX
    @MasakoX  2 года назад +52

    Thanks for watching! Here is the link to the original text if you wish to read for yourself. twitter.com/Herms98/status/1535710396333494272

    • @mrfazaz572
      @mrfazaz572 2 года назад

      What If Goku was Betrayed and Trapped
      MasakoX version .

    • @bofasofa9399
      @bofasofa9399 2 года назад

      Your hair looks insane in this video lmao

    • @MegaTran1001
      @MegaTran1001 2 года назад

      Very fun channel -- seems to be free of the overly opinionated, nonsensical back and forth of power level d... measuring. Do you think the new form moniker signifying "Final" is Toriyama saying "stop with the endless leveling, reach your final form and tell a dang story already?"
      BTW its Father's Day in the states so have a cold one on behalf of our green daddy Piccolo everyone.

    • @kemocali6504
      @kemocali6504 2 года назад

      The word " Super " twice in the title was a mistake , just like the number " 2 " was mistaken for a " Z ".

    • @jordyplaysgamesAUTISMYEET
      @jordyplaysgamesAUTISMYEET 2 года назад

      Two words, piccolo made a reference to marathon, Bungie's game before the of halo games. That's more than two words, and I don't care. Also, it's kinda all bad now, the movie, I won't go see. I don't care what happens. I don't care how it looks. I give very little care about any of this series, the fans made it and since the fans are running out of fuel it's done. I might make my own thing. But I gotta be honest, I'd have to source it all myself. And also, I'd have to be sure ignore everyone else. I've seen enough to know what I want in my own series, I don't need this insult to animation anymore.

  • @Tarnthewarrior
    @Tarnthewarrior 2 года назад +569

    "I know this series like the back of my hand" Dragon ball Fans
    "I know this series like the back of my- oh hey that's new" Toriyama

    • @windhelmguard5295
      @windhelmguard5295 2 года назад +69

      "I know this series like the back of my head" Toriyama

    • @Tarnthewarrior
      @Tarnthewarrior 2 года назад +9

      @@windhelmguard5295 lol so you need a mirror for that

    • @moneymankkk5797
      @moneymankkk5797 2 года назад

      @@windhelmguard5295 no no no

    • @Eldoofus
      @Eldoofus 2 года назад +12

      @@Tarnthewarrior two mirrors, actually

    • @redactedoktor
      @redactedoktor 2 года назад +3

      Araki: So he's the same type mangaka as me...

  • @aldenraemamaril5191
    @aldenraemamaril5191 2 года назад +110

    Piccolo Getting The Spotlight
    Toriyama: He's My Favorite Character Again

  • @GSEleven
    @GSEleven 2 года назад +556

    I never understood the father debate. I always saw Piccolo as more of an older brother figure, it would explain why he was so ruthless to Gohan in training, why Gohan has so much respect for Piccolo, and also, they were born 4 years apart from each other.

    • @MasakoX
      @MasakoX  2 года назад +220

      He was a guardian for Gohan...ironic since Kami was the guardian of Earth.

    • @mangareader7474
      @mangareader7474 2 года назад +104

      I seen him as a uncle

    • @Random1567
      @Random1567 2 года назад +81

      Nozawa said in a recent interview that Gohan does look at Piccolo as a sort of father figure. Not that it means he doesn’t view Goku as a father still, but that he just views Piccolo in a similar way

    • @GSEleven
      @GSEleven 2 года назад +40

      Let me reiterate, I understand the argument of him being Gohan's father figure/guardian. But not the debate of the topics, my personal perspective was that he was more like an older brother rather than a father, but an uncle or father could easily fit as well.

    • @Phoenixdown37
      @Phoenixdown37 2 года назад +3

      All I'm going to say. Keep in mind how some slugs reproduce and how Piccolo was born.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 2 года назад +161

    Piccolo is the MVP of Dragon Ball Super Super Hero.
    Change my mind.

    • @MasakoX
      @MasakoX  2 года назад +49

      No. You are right.

    • @Hitomihubby
      @Hitomihubby 2 года назад +21

      Fun fact: piccolo is supposedly the main character in the movie. But (don't know if it is his editor but) Toriyama's editor pushed for Gohan to be in it.

    • @heberthswordsman4890
      @heberthswordsman4890 2 года назад +12

      @@Hitomihubby yeah, that's literally said in the video.

    • @Inactivechannel-r6
      @Inactivechannel-r6 2 года назад +9

      @@Hitomihubby Piccolo had more of a impact on the plot and had more screen time than Gohan tho

    • @MarioKonga
      @MarioKonga 2 года назад +3

      Piccolo is the MVP of Dragon Ball

  • @anxofernandez3344
    @anxofernandez3344 2 года назад +229

    I really like the dynamic between Pan and Piccolo but I hope Toriyama doesn't forget about Pan and Goku or Pan and Mr. Satan. She has 3 grampas rather than 2, and training with her mom and dad, grampa Goku and Grampa Piccolo should make her eventually the kind of fighter fans wanted Gohan and Goten to be.

    • @MasakoX
      @MasakoX  2 года назад +43

      I doubt he will. Pan is quite a fan favourite again after years of ire.

    • @mrfazaz572
      @mrfazaz572 2 года назад +4

      @@MasakoX What If Goku was Betrayed and Trapped
      MasakoX version .

    • @bofasofa9399
      @bofasofa9399 2 года назад +7

      @@mrfazaz572 there's already two channels doing his story... if Masako joined in, it would take him 10 episodes (basically a full year) just to get to the saiyan saga...

    • @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat
      @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat 2 года назад

      @@mrfazaz572 betrayed and trapped by who?
      I'm sorry if this was obvious but I genuinely do not have any idea who would do this or when it would happen.

    • @drv8094
      @drv8094 2 года назад +1

      @@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat there seen to be multiple versions, the two I've seen were kami and wis respectively.

  • @RickachuCXVI
    @RickachuCXVI 2 года назад +174

    I love the idea that these guys at the board meeting discussing stuff like the name of the movie with Toriyama heard his name for the movie, looked at each other and probably all thought collectively, "I'm sure he realizes the names a bit repetitive, but he's the creator so he knows what he's doing" and said nothing until Toriyama saw the teaser drop.

    • @BrandonVout
      @BrandonVout 2 года назад +53

      Toriyama forgetting the title of his own movie is the most Toriyama thing.

    • @stemom
      @stemom 2 года назад +8

      I originally went from the assumption that it was a play on words the way some other power names were done (ex: super saiyan god super saiyan)

  • @legendarycryptid2629
    @legendarycryptid2629 2 года назад +166

    Toriccolo-bot will forever be remembered as the greatest hero in the movie.

  • @gensteps923
    @gensteps923 2 года назад +121

    I knew Piccolo was the main character in Toriyama eyes but to actually here kodama outright confirm that Piccolo was the original Lead and singular star of the movie is pretty incredible. Its exactly like I've been saying. Toriyama really just wanted to make a awesome piccolo movie and do justice to his favorite character and make him relevant again. Thankfully though, the brilliant staff alongside him pitched the idea to allow Gohan to be the co lead of the movie, which was already great because the two characters have amazing chemistry and synergy and a deep bond. Not to mention they could already build off of what was established for Gohan and Piccolo during the TOP Arc, and they created a brilliant story for both Characters that resulted in a brilliant pay off. All together I think they did an amazing job and this is my favorite Dragon Ball Movie thus far! That whole Orange Piccolo Transformation scene from start to finish with Shenron forming the crest on piccolos back and then him exploding with massive power and an incredible new form is now my top scene in all of DBZ.

    • @antoniogrady5954
      @antoniogrady5954 2 года назад +2

      Props to you for liking this movie but I can't get over how bad this movie did gohan

    • @jobertu
      @jobertu 2 года назад +3

      @@antoniogrady5954 incredible how gohan managed to get sidelined in the side character film

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 2 года назад +1

      It always take others to make things strange. In my opinion they made Piccolo look weak by how he got 2 buffs and got beat up by the main villain even though he ultimately was the reason they succeeded.

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 2 года назад

      @@antoniogrady5954 the only thing that made it seem wrong to me was tha ugly transformation with the white hair. He wasnt even struggling and got a new transformation

    • @cringekiller348
      @cringekiller348 2 года назад

      @Antonio Grady
      Props to you. You are delusional
      Gohan is the strongest.

  • @randallellison6421
    @randallellison6421 2 года назад +58

    Yikes Masako, when you showed that still shot from one of the early episodes of Super, no wonder people were ripping the animation quality at that time! I also found it funny it took Toriyama over 2 decades to realize Piccolo and Gohan weren't getting enough love, but hey, from the sounds of the reviews, he's made up for that big time!

    • @MasakoX
      @MasakoX  2 года назад +27

      Granted, it was a motion still...but the overall sequence wasn't much better. It was all down to Toei rushing production and deadline crunches, just before that kind of thing got rumbled. I had a feeling this would happen when the anime was announced and came out just 2 months later. Usually it's 6.

    • @randallellison6421
      @randallellison6421 2 года назад +6

      @@MasakoX yeah, I was kind of a late bloomer to Super so I never got to see the early episodes and the ones I have watched were from DVD box sets from the later seasons. But you're absolutely right, this is what happens when you don't give animators time on these shows! I watched the Bleach TYBW trailer and the animation in that trailer was stunning, but again, even though it was just a trailer, the animators had time and thus we got incredible animation and it seems the Dragonball franchise is coming around to that idea as we've seen in DBS Broly and also, it appears, in Super Hero too!

  • @megamattzx
    @megamattzx 2 года назад +65

    With the way Dragon Ball has been handled over the years and the fact that Toriyama never truly disclosed what was Canon and what wasn't, the truth of the matter is that there's no definitive Canon in Dragon Ball. Merely multiple continuities

    • @MasakoX
      @MasakoX  2 года назад +30

      It's the most likely situation, yes.

    • @IccyTheOne
      @IccyTheOne 2 года назад +2

      That's a great way to view the series.

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 2 года назад +1

      Its so bad now that its better this way. He might take a longer ponder one day and then clean everything up.

    • @JM-fr5ge
      @JM-fr5ge 2 года назад

      There’s anime canon and manga canon and superhero is anime canon after the events of Broly.

    • @AlexGoldhill
      @AlexGoldhill Год назад

      It's almost like he's making it up as he goes along.

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. 2 года назад +37

    I still found the CG off-putting after seeing the movie though I absolutely love the story! This was mainly because of how beautiful the animation was from the Broly movie; I was super pumped thinking " We got a new standard of animation! The next ones gonna be huge!!!" So my expectation was super high. Luckily, the character interactions and plot had me smiling and having fun anyway!

    • @MasakoX
      @MasakoX  2 года назад +18

      Considering how far we've come in just a few years, the fact this medium can carry a whole movie at least decently is a huge deal.

    • @bowiesensei5574
      @bowiesensei5574 2 года назад +10

      @@MasakoX hard agree. The CG In battle of God's compared to this movie is a huge improvement

    • @LowellLucasJr.
      @LowellLucasJr. 2 года назад +5

      @@MasakoX I'm just glad Piccolo and Gohan got to.shine with the adorable little Pan! ❤

    • @mug281
      @mug281 2 года назад +1

      How was this off putting at all? Maybe you watched clips of movie theater recordings or something. The cgi is literally crisp 95 percent of the time. Fix your eyes.

    • @LowellLucasJr.
      @LowellLucasJr. 2 года назад +4

      @@mug281 I don't like the CG direction after getting that smorgasbord of beauty known as The Broly movie. Yuya Takahashi and the other animators did a PHENOMENAL job with little CG sprinkled in. I wished it were in that direction again!!! Also, it's just my opinion. YOU don't have insult someone just because they don't like what you do. That's completely uncalled for.

  • @Eric-gp3hi
    @Eric-gp3hi 2 года назад +53

    It’s great to hear Toriyama’s thoughts on Dragonball Super:Super Hero it gives us insight into the development of Super Hero and how Toriyama feels about Super Hero.

  • @chriss.249
    @chriss.249 2 года назад +15

    2:56
    This is FAX
    The baseball ep was one of my favorites
    After that was gohans saiyaman story.

  • @tz6035
    @tz6035 2 года назад +25

    I feel like this interview really confirms that when Toriyama used to say that he just couldn't see Gohan as a protagonist, it just meant he didn't particularly enjoy writing for his character. I mean at the end of the day it's not that hard to write something for any Dragon Ball character, I feel like he just never liked Gohan after he grew up, which is a bit of a shame.

    • @cringekiller348
      @cringekiller348 2 года назад +1

      He probably hated the character.

    • @DSan-kl2yc
      @DSan-kl2yc Месяц назад +1

      He also said he loved writing the day to day of Gohan so I think you should take what he said at face value.
      He just didn't think Gohan 's character matched the story.

  • @emperior5710
    @emperior5710 2 года назад +40

    I really hope this is canon, one problem I’ve been having with dragon ball is that only Goku and sometimes vegita get to do things because everyone else is just too weak. Making Gohan and Piccolo stronger is not only great for that problem, but also because the two are some of my favorites characters, and I’m glad/hope their not just gonna be semi useful but mostly on the sidelines.

    • @JACQUEZ23
      @JACQUEZ23 2 года назад +1

      u Make no sense

    • @priestesslucy
      @priestesslucy 2 года назад +9

      Frankly based on his writings here Toriyama feels like the films more canon than the DBS manga and DBS anime.

    • @Hitomihubby
      @Hitomihubby 2 года назад +10

      Well dbs broly movie is the start of canon movies.
      if we arrange the arcs it will be
      BoG>RoF>U7vsU6>BlckGoku>T.O.P>Broly>Moro>Granolah>Dbs super hero

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 2 года назад

      Only issue is these new forms Gohan and Piccolo got. They could have made them stronger without it. I would be okay of Piccolo's orange and buff form was a technique like an alternate take on kaioh ken

    • @chrishudson9525
      @chrishudson9525 2 года назад +6

      @@realamericannegro977 So what if they got new forms? How many crazy forms have Goku and Vegeta had at this point? If anything, Piccolo and Gohan getting new forms is in line with everything else.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 2 года назад +9

    *thumbnail*
    Piccolo and Pan rehydrating themselves before commencing training with Toriccolo-bot

  • @Mugen026
    @Mugen026 2 года назад +12

    Very on-brand for Toriyama. Love it!

  • @johnnyd3158
    @johnnyd3158 2 года назад +8

    To be fair, Gohan and Piccolo’s relationship was initially centered around urgent circumstances when Gohan was young due to the oncoming threat of the saiyans in which Piccolo was more focused on bringing out Gohan’s true potential than to actually bond with him during that time.

  • @Griff03
    @Griff03 2 года назад +75

    Honestly I would love a Dragonball spin off that was a slice of life show, with only small amounts of action.

    • @arealcookingchannel5134
      @arealcookingchannel5134 2 года назад +8

      I’ve been wanting this for years

    • @StanTheBland
      @StanTheBland 2 года назад +1

      I don't think they can dedicate an entire movie to that, although I think that'd be perfect for OVA's. The humans and other side characters can all be shown in a few decent OVA's

    • @Griff03
      @Griff03 2 года назад +2

      @@StanTheBland not a movie, like a 12 episode spin off series.

    • @StanTheBland
      @StanTheBland 2 года назад +3

      @@Griff03 I get you, sort of like what disney plus does with it's marvel series

    • @jodinsan
      @jodinsan 2 года назад +1

      Yes! With Krillin and 18 as the main characters!

  • @garrettmorano3038
    @garrettmorano3038 2 года назад +4

    I love how Chaotic Good Toriyama is, he literally forgets things he himself creates, and then just says F it and rolls with it.

  • @Mardanzo
    @Mardanzo 2 года назад +2

    Toriyama: "I don't like big muscles"
    also Toriyama: gives Piccolo(his favorite character) a new form that makes him buffer

  • @kaiokenforever4.013
    @kaiokenforever4.013 2 года назад +5

    I know people are saying this is a Gohan movie, but truth be told, it just feels more like a piccolo movie with Gohan and pan as the co deuteragonist, and I love it so unbelievably much.

    • @darkman452
      @darkman452 2 года назад

      Gohan was the afterthought of the movie they put him on after the fact

  • @Jerao
    @Jerao 2 года назад +6

    You can tell the tides are turning because while Gohan is obviously a huge part, he's not the POV character. You could make the argument he's not the protagonist, at least not alone. It really is Piccolo. He's the driving force for act 1 and act 2 along side Pan. One of my biggest criticism of the series is the focus on Saiyan POV. This movie bucks that trend well.

    • @PGVchannel
      @PGVchannel 2 года назад

      I agree. I'll add that they should have let Piccolo conclude the fight with the final boss. The way they handled Gohan was unnecessary in my opinion, especially at the end...

    • @Jerao
      @Jerao 2 года назад

      @@PGVchannel kinda feel that tbh

    • @mug281
      @mug281 2 года назад +1

      @@PGVchannel I disagree completely. Sucks that you didn’t get to enjoy the movie as much as the rest of us. Lmao

  • @Mr_Movie_Fan
    @Mr_Movie_Fan 2 года назад +4

    I like seeing both humor and serious moments in Dragon Ball. Mostly because the humor is situational and not characters saying goofy things like in the MCU.

  • @aootypooty9940
    @aootypooty9940 2 года назад +20

    I can definitely get behind the excitement. It’s feels like really since the cell saga since Gohan has gotten some legit action. Tho admittedly I wish they did a sub movie release in the English speaking countries only because I don’t want to dodge spoilers for 2 months. But nonetheless I’m very excited being a major gohan fan.

    • @jamesmeppler6375
      @jamesmeppler6375 2 года назад

      Too bad they were hacked and it was delayed, but I'm pretty excited, even if it's bad, I'm thankful for any extra db

    • @Glitchedsquirtle
      @Glitchedsquirtle 2 года назад

      @@jamesmeppler6375 It’s bad?

    • @jamesmeppler6375
      @jamesmeppler6375 2 года назад

      @@Glitchedsquirtle well it's definitely not what I wanted from a Dragonball movie. the animation looks weird and not trying to spoil anything, but I'm not impressed with the transformation or story line...how is the red ribbon going to be a problem to anyone but kid Goku unless it's androids

    • @Glitchedsquirtle
      @Glitchedsquirtle 2 года назад

      @@jamesmeppler6375 Without spoiling, can you say if they did Gohan and Piccolo justice in your own opinion?

    • @jamesmeppler6375
      @jamesmeppler6375 2 года назад

      @@Glitchedsquirtle to me if they did this during the actual show, yes, they did them right. It almost seems like fan service to make a movie about it, since it's not about Goku or Vegeta.
      As you may remember. As the ToP was winding up, they went through the whole "montage" of training and fighting to reawaken Gohan's inner power.
      So if Gohan had taken Goku's place as final universe 7 and the one to get ultra instinct . Heck yea, perfect character development for both Gohan and piccolo.

  • @chriss.249
    @chriss.249 2 года назад +9

    Alright hot take, but is it bad i think toriyama couldve used gohan in a different way in general?
    I think he could use gohan to show the struggles of mangaka workers and how they are overworked, exhausted, stressed, and still have high levels of responsibilities outside of work. Which is kinda japanese men in general in the workforce from what im hearing.
    Gohan himself is a son, a husband, a father, a worker, and is still trying to find time to train. Let us see gohan struggle to juggle so many full time responsibilities, and that love for his family keeps him pushing through and improving himself day by day. Keep in mind, hes only in his 20s, and after just turning 20 myself, i got NO idea wtf im doin at times😂
    Also, I wanna see gohan mentor broly. Teach him how to control that rage, as gohan himself has done it b4. The 2 are also so alike its uncanny.

    • @mithmoonwalker
      @mithmoonwalker 2 года назад +2

      my first thought was gohan and broly gardening while reading this

  • @agentbluegaming7709
    @agentbluegaming7709 2 года назад +4

    I'd definitely watch a full film of just Pan and Piccolo training, ngl. Their dynamic and Pan learning more about her father's history and the other Z fighters history sounds really cool to me.

  • @suomynona4420
    @suomynona4420 2 года назад +3

    I thoroughly enjoyed the Movie. I felt like they did a great job of setting up GT.

  • @charkizzzy
    @charkizzzy 2 года назад +6

    The way Piccolo holds his phone with that phone case had me dying 🤣😂😭 but i think it went through everyone's head is that he still can't drive and i think that was a throwback to that dbz filler episode when goku and piccolo went to try and get their drivers licenses 💀

  • @Pioxys
    @Pioxys 2 года назад +4

    I like how this is more than just a love letter.
    It's relighting the spark Toriyama loss for the series.
    This movie feeling like a good balance of OG Dragonball, with a mix of Z.
    Which is basically Super, but hopefully this movie will handle that balance better.

  • @sammasters2000
    @sammasters2000 2 года назад +1

    Toriyama always seems like a chill dude to say his idea won't work and that he would listen and even do your own idea. That was always my impression I just feel people in the past were just too scared to question him.

  • @jaguarnero
    @jaguarnero 2 года назад +6

    I love that the dynamic has finally shifted away from Goku and Vegeta, at least in this movie. I really hope that the creators and Toriyama continue making stories that focus on more characters because the series really lends itself to exploring the world building of the series through generations of characters. I’m really hoping that goten and trunks get a movie, or at least more screen time, because as much as I like them they are definitely due for some character development.
    And further, maybe in the very long run, I’d really like to see a completely new generation of dragon ball, akin to Dragon Ball Online. Taking Dragon Ball and putting JRPG tropes with characters that descended from the original heroes always fascinated me, and I always thought that that was the true natural progression of the series. No matter what, finding the dragon balls could easily tie the stories of multiple characters together.

    • @priestesslucy
      @priestesslucy 2 года назад +5

      Yeah Goten and Trunks would make an amazing film.
      As for a future generation, I feel like rebooting with a 100% new cast would be a huge gamble that Toei just won't take.
      I'd be satisfied if Goku and Vegeta were put on a bus, Gohan is allowed to mostly retire (emergency backup power and a secondary mentor figure alongside Piccolo) and we got new stories focused around the younger generation.

    • @jaguarnero
      @jaguarnero 2 года назад +1

      @@priestesslucy yeah I totally get it. It would likely never happen… in the right hands, if it ever did happen, I’m sure it would be a really good gamble. And it would be cool, theoretically, because older characters could always make cameos or be mentioned as “legends” or something of the like.
      Either way, just having other parts of the cast do something and not only having Goku and Vegeta I wholly think makes the series more fresh. I’m glad that, at least in mention, some characters are doing what come naturally to them.
      And eventually, I do think that the next natural progression for the series as it is is to focus more on Goten and Trunks - then Pan and Uub. GT 2.0, basically, just combine the best things of DBS and DBGT, have it focus on new/more varied characters, and it will be great.

  • @michaelmcgann538
    @michaelmcgann538 2 года назад +1

    I’ve been asking for exactly this in a movie for about a decade so I’m thrilled!!!

  • @EndoScorpion
    @EndoScorpion 2 года назад +7

    Can easily see this being a Piccolo movie as he does most of the work and has the most agency anyway. Gohan just comes in at the end and gets all the credit for it. Gohan literally pulled a Goku.

    • @A-Microwave
      @A-Microwave 2 года назад

      @N. E. No, like father like Son Gohan, heh , perfect.

  • @KavinCatastrophe
    @KavinCatastrophe 2 года назад +2

    When Gohan used his Father technique in the End. It was so Beautiful.

  • @aliasv6964
    @aliasv6964 2 года назад +5

    I love getting more Piccolo! He was always my favourite. I'm just happy they didn't knuckles him and make him dumb or something.

  • @j.i.k2.044
    @j.i.k2.044 2 года назад +3

    For me I see the Super manga and canon movies from Battle of gods and beyond as the true canon to Toriyamas original manga

  • @stargazerequiem
    @stargazerequiem 2 года назад +3

    Tbh even if the movie seems really great as Gohan got the spotlight again, I would've loved to see a Piccolo-only lead movie. That would've been so interesting and cool to watch. Although going for Gohan too is a good move because people are just going to find more of him if he doesnt do much in this movie.

  • @abhishekjain3148
    @abhishekjain3148 2 года назад +2

    I think less musculature is linked to having ki control, and that it is supposedly the way to move forward in training,
    I can imagine a conversation among goku and his z warrior friends about what they should pursue in their training, what Whis and Beerus taught him
    Ssj God goku is leaner, Beerus even more so and Whis doesnt show much muscle over those tight sleeve
    Ssj Blue is a super saiyan thing so maybe thats why they get slightly more buffed
    So yet again Toriyama's character design preference is backed up by a solid plot reason for it
    first one being, that I know of, getting a transformation so Toriyama didnt have to colour the saiyans' hair in battle scenes

  • @cameronmelvin3889
    @cameronmelvin3889 2 года назад +6

    I know it’s been said a lot, but I really am glad that the focus for this movie at the least, is being taken away from Goku and Vegeta. It’s like, as much as I love the two of them, it always started to get more tiresome for me when everyone just constantly relied on the two of them to solve all of their problems, and “stop the big bad.”

    • @Renagade2332
      @Renagade2332 2 года назад +2

      I just want all the Z Fighters to actually matter again

  • @moodiworld8554
    @moodiworld8554 2 года назад +8

    the most shocking moment to me was when i saw android 21 is canon

    • @MasakoX
      @MasakoX  2 года назад +10

      and that the fandom have gladly dubbed her "Vomi Mommy"...whuh?

    • @moodiworld8554
      @moodiworld8554 2 года назад

      @@MasakoX yes😂

    • @sparkthedog6291
      @sparkthedog6291 2 года назад

      @@MasakoX Vo(re )mi mommy

    • @TheWarmachine375
      @TheWarmachine375 2 года назад

      @@MasakoX I prefer Hima from What If Android 21 raised Goku

    • @atomic747
      @atomic747 2 года назад

      Well they did show that she is, from dragonball z: kakarot.

  • @WillLuigiVG
    @WillLuigiVG 2 года назад +1

    13:47 - Carry on my wayward so-uuuuhn~
    There'll be peace when you are do-ohne...
    Lay your weary head to re-eeeahst~
    Don't you cry no mo-ooooh-re!
    (*Guitar solo intensified*)
    No but in all seriousness, having Toriyama all excited like this is pretty amazing. Granted, I'm going off this one interview without looking back to previous interviews to compare notes and answers (creating speculation through these answers alone for the future). Nevertheless, I'll keep my naïve rose-colored glasses on and hope for the best with this movie as well as the future possibilities for the series.
    Going over the interview as well as being reminded (constantly) of Toriyama's bad memory... I had the thought... what if someone came to him with a detailed PowerPoint Presentation of all the characters Toriyama's forgotten about, description of them, and fans' interpretation and overall likeability for said characters throughout their years of activity and perhaps even inactivity (like, hey; Toriyama may have forgotten you but us fans haven't! sort of way). Seeing as how Toriyama is aware of his memory tendencies (Evident from the Movie Title alone), his past experience with director(s)/producer(s) seemed to lean toward less 'push back,' or rather, less people... I guess fighting for their idea suggestions or something of the like (correct my grammar/recollection of what was literally just said in the video)?
    Whatever the wording/case may be, I feel like this movie had a more positive experience with Toriyama in his experience with this new director/producer/editor (wtf can't I remember?), so maybe this may lead to future projects of people harnessing the positive praise for things like this, and in turn, help maybe portray the... maybe fan's... not really expectations, but in a sense expectations, but also perhaps (like this movie does and what his own thoughts were to the movie in returning more to its roots and condensing things down quite a bit) bring some of what Toriyama has built, has one built, and perhaps has forgotten entirely back into the light (for instance, Videl in this movie being less of the house-wife-role Chi-Chi was put into and staying true to her martial-artist background due to her dad's influence [and probably Gohan's as well a bit]).
    The interview does sort of explain the sudden irregularities with height differences, art-style choices/differences from End-Of-Z to Battle of Gods (and throughout Super), like Krillin's entire physique, not just his height, having some of the most notable changes (Vegeta as well, ofc). It also kind of helps to explain the actual ideas and thoughts behind the origin of the Super Saiyan God transformation and how it looks so... unique in terms of what we normally associate with "Saiyan" transformations or transformations in "Dragonball (mostly Z)" overall. Hearing the answers or thoughts behind it kind of... make me not really bothered by the 'discrepancies' of height differences or 'muscular bodies' anymore. (Tbh I may kind of like them more now, don't throw rocks at me plz).
    Overall (long-rant-short), the interview and notes kind of bring a new outlook for me when looking over the 2012 to present era of Dragonball, as well as the 'thoughts' behind its origination. Can Toriyama be forgetful? Yea, does it bug the hell out of me (and likely other fans)? Hell yea, but this movie sort of... well, let's just say I hope it does really really well; better than Broly. It could possibly help tip the scale and flip the potential script for any and all future plans of Dragonball.

    • @cobrabear6497
      @cobrabear6497 2 года назад

      "Dads on a hunting trip, and he hasnt been back in a while"

  • @up0the0ions
    @up0the0ions 2 года назад +3

    Having seen it, I certinly felt it was very much more about Piccalo

  • @aggydraggy5933
    @aggydraggy5933 2 года назад +16

    Toriyama really keeps forgetting stuff huh?

  • @maleficking6556
    @maleficking6556 2 года назад +2

    Never really got an "Ultraman" feel from Gamma 1 and 2, they really felt more like Super Sentai and Kamen Rider-styled heroes. Not even their designs really reflect him that much, I guess except for a monotone colored face but the shading's completely different (closest thing really are the head fins). Jaco, on the other hand, is a lot more of a clear reference given his design and his role as a "space patrolman".
    I'm not sure how much MasakoX actually knows of Ultraman so I can't tell if there's something I'm not getting or he's just noting Ultraman without an actual connection being present.

  • @ChaddyFantome
    @ChaddyFantome 2 года назад

    I'm glad I'm not alone in feeling Super was at its best when doing the more slice of life stuff. Yo Son Goku and Friends return itself was carrying that same kind of energy to begin with and I feel it and Super shined most in these areas.

  • @saphcal
    @saphcal 2 года назад +1

    HE NEVER FORGOT LAUNCH. He also didn't actually forget about the title. He only thinks of the movies by their subtitles, as he refers to the broly movie just as "Broly" not "DBS: Broly". he doesnt think about the DB part as part of the title in his head, so it slipped by him, he didnt "forget", just like he never forgot about Launch. He CLAIMED he had, but the manga proved he never did, he just misspoke.

  • @Vincent-2057
    @Vincent-2057 2 года назад

    That'll be super sweet! Only in Essex here so happily hope over the river for a showing!

  • @kaiokenforever4.013
    @kaiokenforever4.013 2 года назад +1

    The fact that the creator himself is extremely excited about this movie and Goku and Vegeta aren't the leads that are not that are making him excited gives me hope again that other great characters like Krillin Tien Yamacha chiatzou and master roshi yurin and maybe even launch will get their time to shine as well.

  • @shazam2022
    @shazam2022 2 года назад

    I can’t wait for this

  • @HunterX05
    @HunterX05 2 года назад +2

    Good to see the robohermit having fun

  • @desertfox4277
    @desertfox4277 2 года назад

    Really wish you get to interview Toriyama some day.

  • @ZackForester
    @ZackForester 2 года назад +1

    In the next movie, we'll have Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo fuse into Orange Beast Piccohan using the Potara Earrings to overcome the next big bad.

  • @realfallengang
    @realfallengang 2 года назад

    Yessir let's gooo new upload!

  • @twodayhero5139
    @twodayhero5139 2 года назад

    Launch still lives in my heart because "ACHOOOO!!!"

  • @andrewellisonlee
    @andrewellisonlee 2 года назад +1

    So glad Gohan and the pickle get some decent screen time for a change.

  • @leoneyamada5408
    @leoneyamada5408 2 года назад

    i have been hearing a lot of people talk about how great it is for toriyama to be making a movie with piccolo in such a "main character" type of role because how much tori loves piccolo... but this is just the ultimate slap in the face for me... it showed me just how little the writer care about this show as a whole.. one of the big rules as a writer is if a line doesnt effect or change the sotyr in any meaningful way you throw it out... AND PICCOLOS ENTIRE CHARACTER IS THAT LINE. all he ever really does is fight the other namekians in the tournament or fight and break the little ball on the nameless planet.. in the entre super story thats all he did... the rest of the time he just sits there going "WAAAH GOKU IS GETTING STRONGER"... a character falling out of relevance means your not really doing your job as a good writer. and in dragon ball the only relevant characters are goku and vegeta and the big bad of the arc... nobody else does anything... gohan just studies all day, bulma makes the newest dragon radar or time machine and then does nothing but yell in the background like in broly movie, piccolo sits on the sidelines and talks about goku being stronger or explaining to the other side characters how goku is doing, EVEN THE GOD OF DESTRUCTION DOESNT DO ANYTHING... beerus changes NOTHING about the story ever since he let goku and vegeta train on his world... after that he just sits around and eats

  • @chriss.249
    @chriss.249 2 года назад +4

    Spoilers down below!
    .
    ..
    The oversized hair of el blanco(final gohan) makes gohan look like ssj number 4 from the kids next door dragonball skit imo😂

  • @andythegoatman694
    @andythegoatman694 2 года назад

    I started on z as a kid but like they started showing dragon ball the original while z was on the buu arc i remember that

  • @xxthemasterloquendoxx4221
    @xxthemasterloquendoxx4221 2 года назад

    its crazy that toriyama did not say this about dbs broly, to me that was the best and still is the best db movie, still, I love that he is feeling pleased with this work

  • @WiiFan-1300
    @WiiFan-1300 2 года назад

    You’re looking more and more like a discount Sean Schemmel everyday… and I love it

  • @bofasofa9399
    @bofasofa9399 2 года назад +1

    Lmao your hair is WILD in this video Masako

  • @brabnoify
    @brabnoify 2 года назад +16

    I loved the movie but it felt like Gohan's power ups were kind of contrived, especially the last one

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 2 года назад +1

      Yep he literally had zero issues in tha last fight and was able to hurt the villain in his ultimate form. That new form is so ugly. There is no way Toriyama designed that mess. The series will be better once Toyotoro leaves. He is like Ono ruining Street Fighter.

    • @ezrat4248
      @ezrat4248 2 года назад

      Toyotaro is ruining dragon ball

    • @craigpeoples9883
      @craigpeoples9883 Год назад

      @@realamericannegro977Toryama maybe a off the cuff writer but he's way better at designing than most people give him credit for

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 Год назад

      @@craigpeoples9883 He simply doesn't seem to care these days. His artwork even took a hit cause he makes characters skinnier to draw faster. I feel that hinders some of his designs. Still good but he trippin

  • @DarkShadow-pe6ud
    @DarkShadow-pe6ud 2 года назад +4

    Toriyama is a great artist but he works best with a team to organize his chaotic ideas.
    EDIT: I think the should hire a story organizer to keep things in check and make sure everything fits together without any major plot holes and retcons, since Toriyama is always forgetting stuff.

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 2 года назад +2

      Blame team 4 star. In my opinion the help make Dragon Ball fandom dumber and more annoying than they were prior.

    • @DarkShadow-pe6ud
      @DarkShadow-pe6ud 2 года назад +2

      @@realamericannegro977 They made a parody, the point of a parody is to be dumb, I think the problem is that many people didn't watched the original and just stock with the team 4 star version, I grew up in a country where the dub was pretty bad/funny, but later I watched the original in Japanese.

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 2 года назад +1

      @@DarkShadow-pe6ud yeah and some that grew up watching the original flat out perfer tfs's version of it. Smh. It even appears some their jokes made it into the games and Super.

  • @moorefresh6843
    @moorefresh6843 2 года назад +1

    I loved the muscular art style ahahah when I was a kid I tried to get buff like teen Gohan 🤣🤣

  • @ssjmatt8424
    @ssjmatt8424 2 года назад +1

    Speaking of. How can i watch this legally in the uk? Because otherwise i have to wait until august

  • @tjzero0008
    @tjzero0008 2 года назад

    It's funny I came into this series in z, living in America I think the first episode I saw at 9 years old was when future trunks went slicey-dicey on mecha frieza. He was my fav for a long time. But now I have a few fav hero characters. But my favorite villain( in anything EVER) is Frieza, and I like what if frieza even more tbh. Anyway I love Dragonball and never saw it in its entirety until a few years ago.

  • @AkatsukiClash
    @AkatsukiClash 2 года назад

    Great vid Masako!
    However, just wanted to give some input: Kodama was just directing the movie, while Yamamuro is character designer and only directed Res. F.
    While Yamamuro does try to copy Toriyama one to one in DESIGNS, Yamamuro does come up with ideas when Toriyama gives input. Example he recommended SS God Goku to have a cape when SS God was first being planned in 2013, but Toriyama declined.
    Thanks for this!

  • @Rikorage
    @Rikorage 2 года назад

    I loved the gag episodes of DB/Z/S when they showed up. Some levity in the series is a good thing, and using under-utilized characters is even better.

  • @davelangton1217
    @davelangton1217 2 года назад

    I was confused by the Arale episode, but it was fun. I totally agree with the tractor scene too it was great.

    • @GuffyZED
      @GuffyZED 2 года назад

      did you watch og db?

  • @Kong.lol321
    @Kong.lol321 2 года назад +2

    I’m still wondering where bulla is

  • @De_Klapperkoning
    @De_Klapperkoning 2 года назад

    your subtitles read your name, MasakoX as "master coax" xD

  • @ORREGOLAC
    @ORREGOLAC 2 года назад +1

    I love the "honest" on the title.

  • @Random1567
    @Random1567 2 года назад +11

    Goes to show how Toriyama really still doesn’t care to do anything with Gohan himself. Thankfully Shueisha didn’t seem to agree here.

    • @MasakoX
      @MasakoX  2 года назад +9

      His editor provided a friendly reminder and Toriyama at least acknowledged his error.

    • @Random1567
      @Random1567 2 года назад +3

      @@MasakoX True, at least he agreed to it, so that’s at least something.

    • @priestesslucy
      @priestesslucy 2 года назад +5

      I wouldn't necessarily say Toriyama sensei doesn't care to do anything with Gohan.
      All we know here is that this time was going to be the piccolo show.
      I do feel like the suggestion to include Gohan as leading support character was great though. These two work so well together

    • @Random1567
      @Random1567 2 года назад

      @@priestesslucy He’s considered a main character actually. I know Piccolo has more screen time but Gohan seems like main payoff character of the movie, and even when off screen is talked about/built up towards a lot.

    • @priestesslucy
      @priestesslucy 2 года назад +1

      @@Random1567 the difference is that this is Piccolo's story.
      Piccolo is the one driving it. Things happen to Gohan and he responds, but the core is Piccolo.

  • @xshadowedxomegax
    @xshadowedxomegax 2 года назад

    God I can't wait for this movie to come out here now

  • @modernemcee
    @modernemcee 2 года назад

    Now I want a standalone Launch film.

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 2 года назад +1

    Given that Piccolo is now recrowned as Akira's favourite I hope Zalmada the dragon god makes his debut

  • @chriss.249
    @chriss.249 2 года назад +8

    How did this man forget the title of his newest series?😂
    Not to mention hes still helping toyotaro with Manga stuff right?

    • @dawid3517
      @dawid3517 2 года назад +9

      Yes, he is still helping, and has most of the involvement in the story department
      But, remember that Toriyama not only forgets things all the time but, also probably refers to DBS as just Dragon Ball.
      Remember that the original manga wasn't devided into DB and DBZ, it was all just Dragon Ball so we can safely assume that he calls all the DB related stuff Dragon ball.

    • @chriss.249
      @chriss.249 2 года назад +2

      @@dawid3517
      So its just him not reading then?
      Oof

    • @dawid3517
      @dawid3517 2 года назад +1

      @@chriss.249 He most likely doesn't read after the release.
      Maybe he reads it only when Toyotarou sends him the chapter/sketches to review.
      And, I personally never read the title, of these chapters so, maybe Toriyama does the same because he's used to seeing this title so much.
      I don't know, there's a lot of possibilities

    • @chriss.249
      @chriss.249 2 года назад +2

      @@dawid3517
      Can i be honest?
      Ur making a lot of excuses for the guy who should KNOW what his product is but doesnt. It comes off as lazy(on his part) tbh.
      Like, imagine if someone left "spider" out of Spider-mans name on a movie/comic title? Or titled it "spider Spider-man"?

    • @dawid3517
      @dawid3517 2 года назад +3

      @@chriss.249 Yeah, i know but Toriyama is really old and I'm not so i don't really know what may be the most possible reason especially that he is a multimillionaire and that he can step out of this project whenever he wants like he did with Z but he doesn't do that.
      So i just present you a lot of possible explanations so you can pick the one that you think is the best.
      If it's laziness it's as possible as every other explanation. But he seemed very excited about this project.

  • @priestesslucy
    @priestesslucy 2 года назад

    It was so good hearing Gamma 1 with the same voice as _SHOU RONPO! RYUU COMMANDER_ lol

  • @gengarvenom1180
    @gengarvenom1180 2 года назад

    0:42 First, The subtitle for the series isn't an important plot point. He probably just thinks about it as just "Dragon Ball." Second, Toryama never forgot launch. She appeared in the last chapter of Dragon Ball, was absent in the next chapter which only featured Piccolo and Radditz, and then her absence was explained in the next chapter which was fleshed out in anime filler that was pitched by Toryama. I don't know why people still believe this. Yes, he said he forgot about Launch, but Toryama says a lot of things. He probably just forgot that he remembered.

  • @darkmindaustin
    @darkmindaustin 2 года назад

    Not just Bond, but it feels like Castle Greyskull and the Cobra HQ from GI Joe. It really is a nice base haha.

  • @drewpamon
    @drewpamon 2 года назад

    Any chance you're going to see it in Virginia cause not sure I'll be able to make it to the uk

  • @gravityrushfan299
    @gravityrushfan299 2 года назад +1

    Hey masako x ,are you newt from the aliens movie?

  • @jesserice7777
    @jesserice7777 2 года назад +1

    Did u just say that I need to take a vacation on August 19?
    💩, I'm in. 😈

  • @jamall7003
    @jamall7003 2 года назад

    I had just watched the movie with the help of reddit and I got to say this is indeed the best Dragon Ball movie of all time. I thought people were just going with the Hype of a new Dragon ball film but no this movie is really freaking cool.
    I'd say everyone should watch this because for the first time ever a dragon ball movie legitimately feels like a movie and not some very long animated build up ending with a fight scene but like this actually has a good plot with some life to it and Characters being used in interesting ways, some we'd never imagine. But unfortunately, this movie is very much for the fans. I'm sure some people who's never watch dragon ball would enjoy it but they wouldn't understand too much of what's going on. But every dragon ball fan needs to watch this film preferably when it comes out for us Americans in theaters or services

  • @abhishekjain3148
    @abhishekjain3148 2 года назад

    Piccolo and Gohan fought garlic junior too, and Krillin was there too, good job Krillin!

  • @Vermin64
    @Vermin64 2 года назад

    The biggest plot twist is piccolo not being homeless, please add this to a what if, it was literally the funniest thing to me in db abridged

    • @craigpeoples9883
      @craigpeoples9883 Год назад

      I thought he lived with Dende and Popo on the lookout

  • @ZeFroz3n0ne907
    @ZeFroz3n0ne907 2 года назад +2

    I'm glad Toryama is enjoying making the new movie, been excited to see this since I heard about it. Loved Broly and have loved much of everything since Dragon Ball - GT (I know, most people don't like GT. I know. I liked some of it, but some was just, weird.) Great video Masako! Big fan of yours as well. Loved your work in DBZA + the newgrounds frieza vid, haha. (Make the spiders have big d*cks and have anthrax!) =P

  • @stevenreyes7779
    @stevenreyes7779 2 года назад

    I love that the gamma androids do the sailor moon pose

  • @Nastara
    @Nastara 2 года назад +1

    The fact the Toriyama was excited to see his own project is impressive considering how casual he is with his own works. So much so this is the first time he had this feeling. Wild.

  • @rafaelrocha3183
    @rafaelrocha3183 2 года назад

    I'm not a native english speaker, but I usually watch videos in english... but man... had to put the headset and level up the volume... this guy is tougth to understand 😅😅

  • @neilstone3583
    @neilstone3583 2 года назад

    I just hope this carries over to the Manga and when it returns the Anime. I was a bit upset that the fat fusion was the one they used, but I got over it. I do hop we get to see the now older Goten, and Trunks in the Manga

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 2 года назад

      They needed a valid reason for Gotenks to not be capable of winning instead of the played out over confident and not taking it serious reason

    • @neilstone3583
      @neilstone3583 2 года назад

      @@realamericannegro977 i mean they could have simply said that the cell clone was just that powerful. Fusions can be beaten we've seen this before and the boys appear not to have been training as much so they are rusty and boom you go your reason

    • @Kruegernator123
      @Kruegernator123 2 года назад

      Daily reminder that Fat Gotenks is stronger than Yellow Piccolo and Ultimate Gohan.

  • @LordYamcha
    @LordYamcha 2 года назад +1

    I would love a remake of original dragon ball or at least more slap stick comedy like Slump with slice of life

  • @SnailSnail-lo4pm
    @SnailSnail-lo4pm 2 года назад

    Alright but did Gohan finish his paper on the sayiants?

  • @michaellynch2910
    @michaellynch2910 2 года назад

    The gamma twins are dope.

  • @mikeclarke5732
    @mikeclarke5732 2 года назад

    Do we get an explanation for gohans new form?

  • @Princecaleb6
    @Princecaleb6 2 года назад

    MasakoX Can you do a breakdown video of dragonball super broly transformations. ?

  • @MrSHADOWANGEL999
    @MrSHADOWANGEL999 2 года назад

    an interesting take

  • @WakoDoodle
    @WakoDoodle 2 года назад

    Did you know there is also a game called super dragonball before dragonball super was a series on ps2 and arcade? Which means if this game had a sequel and this movie was in it, the title would be:
    Super Dragonball Super : Super Hero.