Thank you, Mirabai. Thank you, Joshua, Hesky, Ted, Jen and everyone else who has contributed to Plover. Thank you Aerick for creating Lapwing. Thank you to the hardware vendors who produce high quality, affordable keyboards that feel delightful and fun to use. Thank you to the QMK project and the Javelin project that provides the firmware for those keyboards.
May be a bit too late, but I'm impressed in this dedicated open source for the world. It's like another disruption in stenography's field and I buy it! I am practicing steno right now as it has many free online resources and open source software for steno. Thank you very much for your contribution Mirabai Knight and the team!
I'm learning Plover in 2022 on a laptop with N Key rollover. And the guy at the end is right, people 3d print keycaps. Everything in this talk was a success. It just needs to reach more people.
After a hiatus, we're back to weekly builds, with more hardware options than ever and a crowdfunded video game campaign currently ongoing! Stenoarcade.com.
I used to use old style shorthand at university (the German DEK system - similar to Gregg) - which had to be transferred to my typewriter afterwards. As I'm also playing the piano, to be able to use the Plover system is really intriguing me. My Mac keyboard takes 6 keys at once, so I'll start exercising immediately (have to hurry since I'm already 52, so learning goes a bit slower nowadays ...). I'm always searching for better input methods than the good old qwertz (as it is here) keyboard. Looking forward to having the keys ready on my pants one day (shouldn't be too difficult with all the Arduino wearable stuff that's already available)! Best wishes from Berlin!
I keep trying to switch to colemak but it's tough when I'm at a job site and I need to type qwerty fast. I believe if I learn Plover it would be so different that I would never overwrite my memory of qwerty.
Dozens plus one. I love Colemak, but I'm thinking about making a Mod switching the F and H keys. I'm a lefty, and My right hand would be much happier if I could hit the H more easily with my left, and keep the lesser-used F with the right hand. I think there are other mods to Colemak that look equally enticing.
@@stenoknight hello, it seems you are still active so i’m just gonna ask a question here, is there a way to setup a key bind to toggle plover on and off? if that isn’t a thing that would be useful as someone who plays games with chats. cheers!
@@crazct Yes, there is. You can hit PHROLG (PLOLG, ‹Plover toggle›) to switch the output on and off, while keeping Plover on. You can also hit PHROBGT (PLOKT, ‹Plover quit›) to quit Plover. But then, you will have to restart it manually.
I enjoyed the talk and the sentiment. Steno is something I'd love to have a lower barrier for entry so I could play around with it. The only thing I'd have as a criticism is that the idea of gamification seemed pretty unimaginative, rather than making new games, two better approaches would be to (i) make existing games steno-able, even if they end up somewhat ridiculous (e.g. Typing of the Dead is dumb, hilarious, and hugely fun) or (ii) make existing steno work have a league table, with an annual meetup and awards, e.g. best RUclips video transcribers.
A lot of typing games are usable with Plover, and great for supplementing it, but there are a few steno-specific games that I'd like to see, mostly involving creating and recalling new definitions in the dictionary, or with difficulty tailored to number of strokes versus number of letters.
Is the Plover project dead? A link I went to showed the last update was 2 years ago. That would be sad. It has huge potential. What kind of keyboard could be used to replace the actual steno machine in day to day use in court, depo's or cart, I wonder?
+Jim McDonald Their blog is still active, and they're working on a hardware component. I haven't had any problems with the software component, though, so maybe it hasn't *needed* to be updated?
+Jim McDonald Fear not! After a hiatus, we're back to weekly builds, with several extremely committed and prolific developers churning out great new stuff all the time.
32:50 the binary language of moisture evaporators.
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So, any nkro laptops in 2023? Tested the ones I have and no luck. I know my "cheap" wireless gaming keyboard works, but having on a laptop would be awesome,
Haha, I did the same thing. I swtiched to Dvorak for a few months, except when I sat down at a qwerty keyboard I literally could not type. I could not remember where any of the keys were. I took months again to get dvorak out of my muscle memory.
+Pistol Star Because I totally lost the ability to type on qwerty. It wasn't a moment of disorientation, I just couldn't type on qwerty anymore at all. I recommend drilling with both, and learn how to switch between them. Don't go 100% dvorak for a long period of time. But in the end it came down to it not being that much better. For the amount that I type it just wasn't worth it. So I can be 10% faster... so what? It wasn't worth all the trouble of training and drilling on dvorak and then having to train and drill on qwerty again to get that muscle memory back.
+uzimonkey Happened to me too when I decided to pick up Dvorak a few years ago. There were a few months when I completely lost my Qwerty speed, but I kept on practicing. Took me a few months till I got used to both the keyboard layouts. My average speed is about 140wpm on Qwerty and about 110wpm on Dvorak now. Don't give up guys, keep practicing! :)
I have been a transcriptionist for 2 years now and have decided I actually want to pursue Court Reporting. I have downloaded Plover to start teaching myself. Is there a visual dictionary available somewhere? I can spell the 3 letter words but anything larger is a struggle. I mean I have only been playing with plover for all of a day. I think it's a great program and a great option to schools that cost way to much! Thanks for the program!
When I get a N-key keyboard, this is definitely on my bucket list. If it takes 6 months of 30 minutes of a day of practice to gain a fair amount of skill, it would be perfect.
I am now a court reporter. I started school at the age of 42. I went to school for 3 years and just practiced for a year, so 4 years in total before starting to work. I just started working about 5 months ago. Since I started school I have practice at least 1 hour a day many times up to 3 and 4 hours a day, rarely ever a day off, Every day until I started working. I am now working and I still practice, because I am nowhere near what you said, 240 wpm at 99.9%. I mean that is a goal but I am not holding my breath on that one. My actual goal for me to feel content is 180 wpm at around 98% accuracy real-time. And that I think will take me a couple of years while working and still practicing, maybe less. My question to you, is it possible to learn this even to get to 130 wpm without that kind of practicing? I found that most people got to 130/140 in a year and practiced at least an hour a day to get to that. Definitely not 3 or 4 months to get to 130. In fact, it took me about 1 year to get to the 130 - 160 speed class and I was one of the fastest to get there in my class that started with me, there were maybe 2 other people like that. Then I slowed down a bit. I never practiced typing that much, ever. I mean in 8th grade I took a typing class and it stuck and I may have practiced a little bit, but barely at all and I remember ending the couple of months class at 40 wpm and now I can type at about 65 wpm, and I have never seriously practiced typing like I have obsessively practiced steno on my machine. Now I am not saying that everyone can't do it, I just think who has that commitment to practice like that? Do you think it is possible to learn steno to 130/140 wpm without barely practicing at all like I did for a keyboard? I mean maybe 40 wpm. I mean that I can see getting to without that much effort, but once the speed building starts, I feel practice is needed to get faster, and why the drop out rate is so high, is a lot people do not have that kind of discipline. What do you think?
I know you haven’t asked me, and I only know of stenography since yesterday, so what do I know. But I have learned a completely different keyboard layout three months ago (from QWERTY to Colemak) and I have gone from about 80 wpm on the old layout to now about 60 wpm or so. What I am thinking of when reading your comment is the motivation. I think Mirabai is talking about similarly dedicated and intrinsically motivated people as she is, and she is incredibly dedicated. I personally journal every day, so I have a real intrinsic motivation to get better at typing, because it strongly influences the level of enjoyment and efficiency that I get out of a journaling session. If I would not have such a cause, to just learn it to earn money for example, I doubt I would have had a similar experience. Actually, I ’practiced’ for a total amout of three of four hours, and that has not been enjoyable for me... I learn it to use it, just like Mirabai. Does that make sense?
+Frederik it does but extremely hard. I don't think every could be common. She is special herself with that accuracy and speed even among court reporters who have done it for years. Sustained 240 wpm at 98 % accuracy for 5 minutes is extremely rare. Getting to about 80 I can see, maybe for some motivated people, but beyond that is something different than just motivation.
Lara Wechsler I don’t doubt that she is highly gifted. She is extremely intelligent for sure. It would’t surprise me if she projects much of that onto others, since it’s probably nothing else than gifted people surrounding her! As for my purposes, I would be overly satisfied with 180 wpm or so :)
Well I was in school for 3 years then interning for another year. All the time never missing a day of practicing, on average 2 hours a day, sometimes 3 to 4 hours on some days. It took me a year to get to 130, by the way I and one other kid were the fastest in 2 classes of maybe about 60 - 80 students where already at least half, maybe more dropped out, to get there that fast. After that, it took me like 2 years to even pass a 180. Then after school I still practiced every day for a year straight. at east 1 to 2 hours, sometimes up to 4, every day, barely ever a skipped day. Now I have been working for 6 months. I am no where near getting 180 at 99.9% accuracy. I am maybe at 93 to 94% accuracy at a 5 minute sustained 180 and that is pretty good but not good enough at all. My ultimate goal is to get to 180 at a real 98 or even 97% accuracy, that would be without dropped words and without my dictionary transcribing it showing up as accurate when it a different word. I am hopping I can achieve it, but it is so darn hard, especially it depends on what words and I am afraid I may never truly reach that goal. If it is really easy dictation, that means no unpredictable words or flow, than not as hard as dictation with larger words, or words in order I am not used to hearing. It is so hard. I get angry at myself how much I suck as I work and I try so hard and practice so much and hate transcribing at home.
Lara Wechsler I really get a sense of your anger and frustration, and I understand why you would be. But that’s what I’m saying: I don’t get where you’re actually intrinsically motivated to learn steno. My impression is that you learn a skill that you don’t enjoy just to earn an income, and not because you’re actually passionate about what you’re doing. You’re wandering around doing stuff you hate only to beat youself up for not performing as well as you would like afterwards. What can I say... Why do you do this job?
Easiest to just use a $45 Zalman keyboard. Also, there may now be a true NKRO laptop. It's a rather expensive gaming keyboard, and we haven't had a chance to test it yet, but that's the claim. Fingers crossed!
While it is very cool, I see two problem with it: 1) It is so physically complex that the only way you are going to get common people to learn it is by teaching it in schools. But 2) and this is the bigger issue, speech recognition is only going to get better and better. Over the next few decades I expect that most of the use cases of this just won't be necessary.
+TR NS hmm, maybe, you can use voice recognition with steno in that it can show you which steno keys to press for each word (if its standardized for each word) to reduce the initial frustration period. there is a steno mask that you can buy for 200$ so that other people can't hear you when you speak heh. i am thinking about how can people build a steno-immersion enviroment so that they can practice all the time, no matter where they are. hmm, this might require keygloves haha. its very simple to build a text conversion software that can mark each word and put ruby text (like japanese furigana or chinese pinyin) as a chrome/firefox extension(i've built it before its less than 100 lines long) that tell you how to steno the word. everytime you go on the web or watch a movie with subtitles you can use it as steno practice. Copy paste the following into the Soav isa thiswr working?ru into this website and click See RESULT www.w3schools.com SLASH tags SLASH tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml5_ruby www.dropbox.com/s/5glix9ajw4fustz/stenoruby.png?dl=0
I type at 140wpm on a QWERTY keyboard. I am also incredibly lazy when it comes to learning new skills and memorization disciplines. I just heard the 2-3 months estimate from the presenter, so that's hopeful. Anyone have any experience they'd like to share still though in regards to the transition period? Also how does it compare, fun-wise? I find QWERTY typing really fun, but the quick online demo's I've tried on steno feel a bit more "clunky" (for want of a better word) in comparison. Edit: Well after experimenting a bit more I see that the input is processed when every key is pulled up, so on longer commands as long as you always have at least one of the keys held down you can still do some nice and light fingerwork rather than the "trying to figure out how to press all these buttons at once" method I was doing, definitely interested in learning this system and Plover's offering a great way to do it.
Ethnically I'm Norwegian/French/Italian. My parents were hippies, so they named me after Meera, the 16th Century Rajasthani poet. It gets a little confusing sometimes!
NextDayVideo - Would you please add captions? Especially that it is about access to audio via captions. Just turning on auto captions is not enough - they are not of acceptable quality. Captions need to be created by humans. Thanks!
title: Thought to Text And woman in video gust explain stenography, it's not thought to text, it's moving your fukng sousage rolls on your keyboard into text
![Noob To Max With DRAGON REWORK In Blox Fruits [FULL MOVIE]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LnBMOinoOvA/mqdefault.jpg)
So much has happened in the Plover steno community since this video, it's amazing!
Thank you for helping to make this possible by providing affordable, high-quality hardware and promotional content.
Thank you, Mirabai. Thank you, Joshua, Hesky, Ted, Jen and everyone else who has contributed to Plover. Thank you Aerick for creating Lapwing. Thank you to the hardware vendors who produce high quality, affordable keyboards that feel delightful and fun to use. Thank you to the QMK project and the Javelin project that provides the firmware for those keyboards.
May be a bit too late, but I'm impressed in this dedicated open source for the world. It's like another disruption in stenography's field and I buy it!
I am practicing steno right now as it has many free online resources and open source software for steno. Thank you very much for your contribution Mirabai Knight and the team!
So pleased that you found it!! Have fun!
I'm learning Plover in 2022 on a laptop with N Key rollover. And the guy at the end is right, people 3d print keycaps. Everything in this talk was a success. It just needs to reach more people.
Great energy and presenting skills :) (great job)
Thanks! (':
Found Plover while looking through the firmware on my new Planck! Looks like an awesome project and I'm definitely going to give it a try.
This is a great presentation. Mission accomplished Mirabai: I want to type using Steno! :)
Fantastic! Welcome aboard! :'D
Are you at 240wpm now? It’s been 7 years :)
Damn three years ago. I hope you guys are still at it. I'm definitely going to take this up.
After a hiatus, we're back to weekly builds, with more hardware options than ever and a crowdfunded video game campaign currently ongoing! Stenoarcade.com.
Loved the reading out of the chords!
I used to use old style shorthand at university (the German DEK system - similar to Gregg) - which had to be transferred to my typewriter afterwards. As I'm also playing the piano, to be able to use the Plover system is really intriguing me. My Mac keyboard takes 6 keys at once, so I'll start exercising immediately (have to hurry since I'm already 52, so learning goes a bit slower nowadays ...). I'm always searching for better input methods than the good old qwertz (as it is here) keyboard. Looking forward to having the keys ready on my pants one day (shouldn't be too difficult with all the Arduino wearable stuff that's already available)! Best wishes from Berlin!
This is brilliant. I need to learn this for note taking and doing code development
This is really fascinating stuff. It looked like the audience was really engaged as well. Thanks for sharing!
An Anki deck would be extremely helpful for memorizing the commands.
colemak? there are dozens of us! Dozens!
QWFPBJ here! :D (Colemak Mod-DH)
The guy asking the question needs to get the portable Colemak version on a USB stick. That's how I use it at work.
I keep trying to switch to colemak but it's tough when I'm at a job site and I need to type qwerty fast. I believe if I learn Plover it would be so different that I would never overwrite my memory of qwerty.
heyyyyyy colemak gang
Dozens plus one. I love Colemak, but I'm thinking about making a Mod switching the F and H keys. I'm a lefty, and My right hand would be much happier if I could hit the H more easily with my left, and keep the lesser-used F with the right hand. I think there are other mods to Colemak that look equally enticing.
31:15 Perhaps not when this video was made. But in 2018, there are NKRO laptops (OriginPC). :-)
Yep! I own one (an Alienware). Steno works great on it!
I had never even heard of Stenography prior to watching this video, so this was very educational.
Great talk! I really want to give it a try ;) I’ve been using Dvorak for around 2 years but still looking for something more ergonomic
25:40 “It’s just like playing the piano, you stroke and then relax.”
Me: [cries in Waldstein Sonata]
:D
There should be standardised dictionaries for steno typing...
Great video!
Watching this video 8 years later
Noice
And, why this kind of writting isn't exploding, I'm writing in 2021
"QUARN, short for quarantine" That didn't age well.
No kiddin'. :(
@@stenoknight hello, it seems you are still active so i’m just gonna ask a question here, is there a way to setup a key bind to toggle plover on and off? if that isn’t a thing that would be useful as someone who plays games with chats. cheers!
@@crazct Yes, there is. You can hit PHROLG (PLOLG, ‹Plover toggle›) to switch the output on and off, while keeping Plover on. You can also hit PHROBGT (PLOKT, ‹Plover quit›) to quit Plover. But then, you will have to restart it manually.
OMG im just becoming a fairly fast QWERTY typist and now ive fallen down this rabbit hole. FML
Join us!!
Mechanical keyboards are so cheap now compared to 2013 that getting a keyboard with n-key rollover for $25 is easy!
Can you get this video captioned? In fact ask the presenter to create the transcript! ;)
Captions are up! (They've been up on Amara since spring 2013, but they've now been uploaded to the RUclips version as well.)
@@stenoknight lmao you shit on this guy that was trying to be a smartass
I enjoyed the talk and the sentiment. Steno is something I'd love to have a lower barrier for entry so I could play around with it. The only thing I'd have as a criticism is that the idea of gamification seemed pretty unimaginative, rather than making new games, two better approaches would be to (i) make existing games steno-able, even if they end up somewhat ridiculous (e.g. Typing of the Dead is dumb, hilarious, and hugely fun) or (ii) make existing steno work have a league table, with an annual meetup and awards, e.g. best RUclips video transcribers.
A lot of typing games are usable with Plover, and great for supplementing it, but there are a few steno-specific games that I'd like to see, mostly involving creating and recalling new definitions in the dictionary, or with difficulty tailored to number of strokes versus number of letters.
Is the Plover project dead? A link I went to showed the last update was 2 years ago. That would be sad. It has huge potential. What kind of keyboard could be used to replace the actual steno machine in day to day use in court, depo's or cart, I wonder?
+Jim McDonald Their blog is still active, and they're working on a hardware component. I haven't had any problems with the software component, though, so maybe it hasn't *needed* to be updated?
+Jim McDonald Fear not! After a hiatus, we're back to weekly builds, with several extremely committed and prolific developers churning out great new stuff all the time.
32:50 the binary language of moisture evaporators.
So, any nkro laptops in 2023? Tested the ones I have and no luck. I know my "cheap" wireless gaming keyboard works, but having on a laptop would be awesome,
The Alienware series!
:O :O
I will learn this one day.
Just commenting to keep you motivated, unless you already did learn it
Do you need to memorise every combination to type every word
Fingerdeus Yes, but since the strokes you define are mnemonics, retaining them is far less difficult as retaining words from a new, unknown language.
Haha, I did the same thing. I swtiched to Dvorak for a few months, except when I sat down at a qwerty keyboard I literally could not type. I could not remember where any of the keys were. I took months again to get dvorak out of my muscle memory.
+Pistol Star Because I totally lost the ability to type on qwerty. It wasn't a moment of disorientation, I just couldn't type on qwerty anymore at all. I recommend drilling with both, and learn how to switch between them. Don't go 100% dvorak for a long period of time.
But in the end it came down to it not being that much better. For the amount that I type it just wasn't worth it. So I can be 10% faster... so what? It wasn't worth all the trouble of training and drilling on dvorak and then having to train and drill on qwerty again to get that muscle memory back.
+uzimonkey Happened to me too when I decided to pick up Dvorak a few years ago. There were a few months when I completely lost my Qwerty speed, but I kept on practicing. Took me a few months till I got used to both the keyboard layouts. My average speed is about 140wpm on Qwerty and about 110wpm on Dvorak now. Don't give up guys, keep practicing! :)
Colemak is much better than Dvorak and does not change that many keys. It is much, much more comfortable than QWERTY, and that’s the main advantage.
I have been a transcriptionist for 2 years now and have decided I actually want to pursue Court Reporting. I have downloaded Plover to start teaching myself. Is there a visual dictionary available somewhere? I can spell the 3 letter words but anything larger is a struggle. I mean I have only been playing with plover for all of a day. I think it's a great program and a great option to schools that cost way to much! Thanks for the program!
There is something called ploverlookup. You just type the word in English and you get the possible key combinaisons.
stenoknight.com/plover/ploverlookup/
briefpedia is good as well .
i think this is really cool! curious how far the project has progressed in the last 7 years.
is it still not available on normal laptops?
@@blasttrash It's available on gaming laptops that have n-key rollover and most mechanical keyboards!
Come join us at the Discord! We've got a great little community.
When I get a N-key keyboard, this is definitely on my bucket list. If it takes 6 months of 30 minutes of a day of practice to gain a fair amount of skill, it would be perfect.
I am now a court reporter. I started school at the age of 42. I went to school for 3 years and just practiced for a year, so 4 years in total before starting to work. I just started working about 5 months ago. Since I started school I have practice at least 1 hour a day many times up to 3 and 4 hours a day, rarely ever a day off, Every day until I started working. I am now working and I still practice, because I am nowhere near what you said, 240 wpm at 99.9%. I mean that is a goal but I am not holding my breath on that one. My actual goal for me to feel content is 180 wpm at around 98% accuracy real-time. And that I think will take me a couple of years while working and still practicing, maybe less. My question to you, is it possible to learn this even to get to 130 wpm without that kind of practicing? I found that most people got to 130/140 in a year and practiced at least an hour a day to get to that. Definitely not 3 or 4 months to get to 130. In fact, it took me about 1 year to get to the 130 - 160 speed class and I was one of the fastest to get there in my class that started with me, there were maybe 2 other people like that. Then I slowed down a bit.
I never practiced typing that much, ever. I mean in 8th grade I took a typing class and it stuck and I may have practiced a little bit, but barely at all and I remember ending the couple of months class at 40 wpm and now I can type at about 65 wpm, and I have never seriously practiced typing like I have obsessively practiced steno on my machine.
Now I am not saying that everyone can't do it, I just think who has that commitment to practice like that? Do you think it is possible to learn steno to 130/140 wpm without barely practicing at all like I did for a keyboard? I mean maybe 40 wpm. I mean that I can see getting to without that much effort, but once the speed building starts, I feel practice is needed to get faster, and why the drop out rate is so high, is a lot people do not have that kind of discipline. What do you think?
I know you haven’t asked me, and I only know of stenography since yesterday, so what do I know. But I have learned a completely different keyboard layout three months ago (from QWERTY to Colemak) and I have gone from about 80 wpm on the old layout to now about 60 wpm or so. What I am thinking of when reading your comment is the motivation. I think Mirabai is talking about similarly dedicated and intrinsically motivated people as she is, and she is incredibly dedicated. I personally journal every day, so I have a real intrinsic motivation to get better at typing, because it strongly influences the level of enjoyment and efficiency that I get out of a journaling session.
If I would not have such a cause, to just learn it to earn money for example, I doubt I would have had a similar experience. Actually, I ’practiced’ for a total amout of three of four hours, and that has not been enjoyable for me... I learn it to use it, just like Mirabai.
Does that make sense?
+Frederik it does but extremely hard. I don't think every could be common. She is special herself with that accuracy and speed even among court reporters who have done it for years. Sustained 240 wpm at 98 % accuracy for 5 minutes is extremely rare. Getting to about 80 I can see, maybe for some motivated people, but beyond that is something different than just motivation.
Lara Wechsler
I don’t doubt that she is highly gifted. She is extremely intelligent for sure. It would’t surprise me if she projects much of that onto others, since it’s probably nothing else than gifted people surrounding her!
As for my purposes, I would be overly satisfied with 180 wpm or so :)
Well I was in school for 3 years then interning for another year. All the time never missing a day of practicing, on average 2 hours a day, sometimes 3 to 4 hours on some days. It took me a year to get to 130, by the way I and one other kid were the fastest in 2 classes of maybe about 60 - 80 students where already at least half, maybe more dropped out, to get there that fast. After that, it took me like 2 years to even pass a 180. Then after school I still practiced every day for a year straight. at east 1 to 2 hours, sometimes up to 4, every day, barely ever a skipped day. Now I have been working for 6 months. I am no where near getting 180 at 99.9% accuracy. I am maybe at 93 to 94% accuracy at a 5 minute sustained 180 and that is pretty good but not good enough at all. My ultimate goal is to get to 180 at a real 98 or even 97% accuracy, that would be without dropped words and without my dictionary transcribing it showing up as accurate when it a different word. I am hopping I can achieve it, but it is so darn hard, especially it depends on what words and I am afraid I may never truly reach that goal. If it is really easy dictation, that means no unpredictable words or flow, than not as hard as dictation with larger words, or words in order I am not used to hearing. It is so hard. I get angry at myself how much I suck as I work and I try so hard and practice so much and hate transcribing at home.
Lara Wechsler
I really get a sense of your anger and frustration, and I understand why you would be.
But that’s what I’m saying: I don’t get where you’re actually intrinsically motivated to learn steno. My impression is that you learn a skill that you don’t enjoy just to earn an income, and not because you’re actually passionate about what you’re doing. You’re wandering around doing stuff you hate only to beat youself up for not performing as well as you would like afterwards.
What can I say... Why do you do this job?
Is this still not possible to get working on a laptop?
Still no NKRO laptop keyboards, to my immense frustration.
What about using a MIDI controller as a keyboard? Like a small piano keyboard?
Easiest to just use a $45 Zalman keyboard. Also, there may now be a true NKRO laptop. It's a rather expensive gaming keyboard, and we haven't had a chance to test it yet, but that's the claim. Fingers crossed!
8:55 "tapping" did she mean "typing one letter at a time on qwerty?"
No, I was referring to augmentative communication devices, which often map pictographic icons to conceptual clusters of words or phrases.
While it is very cool, I see two problem with it: 1) It is so physically complex that the only way you are going to get common people to learn it is by teaching it in schools. But 2) and this is the bigger issue, speech recognition is only going to get better and better. Over the next few decades I expect that most of the use cases of this just won't be necessary.
I have a few thoughts on that subject here: blog.stenoknight.com/2012/12/cart-problem-solving-speech-recognition.html
+TR NS
hmm, maybe, you can use voice recognition with steno in that it can show you which steno keys to press for each word (if its standardized for each word) to reduce the initial frustration period.
there is a steno mask that you can buy for 200$ so that other people can't hear you when you speak heh.
i am thinking about how can people build a steno-immersion enviroment so that they can practice all the time, no matter where they are. hmm, this might require keygloves haha.
its very simple to build a text conversion software that can mark each word and put ruby text (like japanese furigana or chinese pinyin) as a chrome/firefox extension(i've built it before its less than 100 lines long) that tell you how to steno the word. everytime you go on the web or watch a movie with subtitles you can use it as steno practice.
Copy paste the following into the
Soav isa thiswr working?ru
into this website and click See RESULT
www.w3schools.com SLASH tags SLASH tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml5_ruby
www.dropbox.com/s/5glix9ajw4fustz/stenoruby.png?dl=0
+aoeu256
sorry i meant
copy/paste
Soav isa thiswr workingldv?ru
into
www.w3schools.com/tags/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml5_ruby
I type at 140wpm on a QWERTY keyboard. I am also incredibly lazy when it comes to learning new skills and memorization disciplines. I just heard the 2-3 months estimate from the presenter, so that's hopeful. Anyone have any experience they'd like to share still though in regards to the transition period?
Also how does it compare, fun-wise? I find QWERTY typing really fun, but the quick online demo's I've tried on steno feel a bit more "clunky" (for want of a better word) in comparison.
Edit: Well after experimenting a bit more I see that the input is processed when every key is pulled up, so on longer commands as long as you always have at least one of the keys held down you can still do some nice and light fingerwork rather than the "trying to figure out how to press all these buttons at once" method I was doing, definitely interested in learning this system and Plover's offering a great way to do it.
have you beat 140wpm at the end?
I started about three weeks ago, i can say most of the words but I'm still slow. It's alotmore ergonomic and feels smooth, like playing an instrument
TYPERACER YAAAASSSSSSS
32:50 ruined me xD
it would be cool to use Daniel (UK) in real time
I always confuse stenography and steganography....
Mirabai, you seem to have a Maharashtrian ring to yourself, don't you?
Ethnically I'm Norwegian/French/Italian. My parents were hippies, so they named me after Meera, the 16th Century Rajasthani poet. It gets a little confusing sometimes!
NextDayVideo - Would you please add captions? Especially that it is about access to audio via captions. Just turning on auto captions is not enough - they are not of acceptable quality. Captions need to be created by humans. Thanks!
Transcribed and uploaded!
Carl Karsten
Wonderful, thanks! :0)
WHERE THE FUCK DO I BUY PLOVER CHIPS FOR MY MICROSOFT GAMING KEYBOARD?!
I had never imagined I'd see you on a computer science video O_o
I never imagined there would be so many people who didn't remember that there's supposed to be a second "u" in my username.
--Proteus.
Still seems pretty damn hard to learn steno!!!
I bet VAC will ban me for typing too many letters at once.. Valve plz fix
25:43 lol
how the fuck can I write code with stenno? How can that even work?
Search for "coding" and "steno" or "coding" and "plover" and you'll get some great videos on it!
G 3
imagine this guy giving a ted talk lmao
title: Thought to Text
And woman in video gust explain stenography, it's not thought to text, it's moving your fukng sousage rolls on your keyboard into text
Good talk, but those guys asking questions are super awkward.
Is this a trans person?
No, I'm cis. I think my first reply to your question got blocked by the bots for some reason? Anyway, I'm GNC she/her.
@@stenoknight You look male to me, and I was surprised when I heard a clearly female voice!
@@parnikkapore lmao I agree
@@stenoknight Ok gotcha. I meant no offense.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 None taken whatsoever! Trans is not an insult!
tacky talking. distracting.
is that a male or a female, you cant know these days.
Hussam Alghamdi why would you care anyway?
Female, for what it's worth, but I'm not particularly bothered if people assume otherwise.