realistically speaking it's plenty secure enough for 99% of applications, and for the remaining 1% of applications just upgrading your deadbolt isn't going to be enough. breaking and entering by lockpicking is almost unheard of. it's one of those things everyone thinks is a threat but just plain isn't
@@SuperAWaC Maybe if you had barred windows someone might try and drill out the lock. But if you have regular windows? Someone's definitely just gonna use a brick.
Oh god, you're right. I wasn't cluey enough to put two and two together. You, sir, get an exasperated groan. Please use it responsibly, and stay legal.
@@whitedobie probably because it will be free marketing for the brands he tests, not to mention there are tons of locks, and also if someone gets their lock busted they could blame him for recommending the product in the first place.
"Most criminals will..." I love the idea that one day LPL is interviewing a client charged with burglary, and just grills him on his picking technique. "You should have had that open in 15 seconds, instead you mucked about for 3 minutes and got caught. Shame."
“Ladies and gentlemen, members of the jury, in conclusion let me reiterate: picking this lock in 3 minutes is not breaking and entering. It is a complete accident that the door ended up unlocked. My client was obviously entirely incapable of breaking in. What we are discussing here was an act of god. Thank you.
100%. I wouldn't be surprised if this gets linked back to the Wirecutter article, so seeing him do a full gutting (which I haven't seen in a bit) was a welcome addition. The plug for his own tools was a nice throw in as well. :D
If cut from a door; its a piece of door. Also, it wouldn't have been a piece of wood either way, its multiple pieces which are glued together, and laminated.
@@GentlemenMonkey remember that lock that said "exceeds maximum security" several times on the box? I think it was something like 9-11 seconds. So 40 for an entry level lock from the lpl is almost a praise 😂
Have to say, that as much fun as it was to see him speed through picking this one, I really enjoy when he takes the extra time to break the lock down and show what makes it excel as well as what makes it weak.
LPL did it with all of his old videos until he blew up on RUclips, then starting making short 2 min videos (I'm assuming he makes more from RUclips by doing lots of short videos, than a few long ones). I, too, miss seeing videos like this.
@@j4byers My understanding is that RUclips prioritizes watch-time. So the more time we spend watching LPL's videos, the more they get recommended (with the caveat that no one really knows that the algorithm does). Certainly seems like long videos would lead to more watch-time, causing RUclips to promote the videos more, and earn more money overall. I think LPL just doesn't take apart locks as often anymore simply because because he has already taken apart very similar locks in previous videos. And maybe because he's spending more time on his day job, or the covert instruments thing.
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The lock disassembly was as if a surgeon was performing it - Cautious, cold and clinical. Almost mesmerizing to watch! More post-pick disassembles please!
Consider also that he talks and described what he did should he not do that and focus on open the lock then the time should be a couple seconds les. But yeah for standard doors it seems to be a decent lock.
Get something that scans your retina while also requiring your fingerprint which is activated by a key that you keep hidden so nobody can copy it visually. The addition of a voice detection software and spoken passcode would also improve the difficulty for anyone not permitted to gain entry. If you meant you want a lock, which uses a key, that cannot be picked, then I have bad news for you
@@chrismanuel9768 LPL modified a Kwikset to be nearly pick-proof (that is to say, the chances of picking it the first time are astronomically low and entirely luck-based, and there is no second chance because it permanently seizes if the pins aren't all perfectly aligned the first time.) The downside is that it becomes entry-proof to all, including the owner of whatever is locked.
@@chrismanuel9768 I disagree, there's some unpickable locks that require a key to open, they just aren't made for use on doors, but with some creative mind you can work around that. LPL made vids on bowley(I think thats their name?) locks but can't recall which video's exactly.
@@Vousie The jokes on them then. My fat ass would make a wonderful doorstop. They shoot me and they ain't getting in. Check and mate! Although i imagine that sounds weird, most front doors here open inwards.
@@chrisjackson1215 that's pretty normal for residential doors. its commercial/public/etc. doors that open outward to prevent a fire hazard, but presumably if you live with people you'd be able to coordinate going out a door with them. plus in hotels/apartments, no chance of opening the door in someone's face while they're walking by
Put 4 deadbolts. Two that lock clockwise, two that lock counter clockwise. Keep two locked and two unlocked. When the burglar opens two, they will lock two.
@@u.v.s.5583 4 spools is more than enough for the vast majority of cases. If it can't be raked or bumped easily then it's probably good enough for 99% of homes
@@danieltilson4053 Yeah. For a lock that you'll use on your home where a criminal is more likely to break a window or sliding glass door? I agree with this lock being recommended. Homeowners don't need a super complex hard to pick lock. What they need is kick resistant frames and good alarm systems with glass break sensors.
I was an emergency locksmith for years, and Schlages were generally much more difficult than the rest of standard residential locks. That said, they are certainly pickable.
ANYTHING is pickable with enough time and skill but locks really only keep honest people honest anyway and a burglar is more likely to kick in the front door or smash a window than they are to pick a lock lol
@@Eric-dr5bj I wish I knew, haha. I mean, I am sure I know the brand if he said it, but I don't know what he is referring to. Only thing I would think of is a higher grade (commercial) Schlage. The others are not just a little more expensive.
@@3nertia In my many years as both a contractor and a locksmith, I saw the results of many break in attempts. I never saw one where they picked the lock. I did see one where the criminals knew what they were doing and drilled out a Schlage LFIC core. I saw one other attempt at drilling by a moron with a step bit. When that failed, he threw a rock through the window. All of the other break ins were done by idiotic brute force.
@@Paramount531 I mean, we're lazy by nature and it takes skills, time, and patience to pick locks. Or they could buy one of those snap guns for $30 if they're slightly smarter criminals. That still technically counts as "lock-picking" but requires very little skill to operate successfully lol
As I was told once before, the lock on your door doesn't matter. If someone wants to break into your house a 4' crowbar will likely get them into it. The trick is to make your house less desirable for a random robbery than your neighbors house.
Not necessarily. There’s a certain maximum amount of time a burglar will spend on your house, before he‘ll move on. As a carpenter, I’ve been called to fix damages by burglary damages a few times. The victims had proper window and door fittings (?), and break resistant glass, so the burglars didn’t get in. It’s not like they didn’t try, too. The windows were damaged pretty badly. The point is, if you want to be safe, you need to spend the money. Saying that, I once replaced a door for a guy who was getting raided by special forces (don’t know any background). He had a relatively cheap aluminium door from the hardware store, yet they couldn’t breach the door. They basically folded the door in half with a battering ram and still it wouldn’t open. They ended up going over the roof and through the window, the holes in the glass from the flashbangs were still there. It was wild man
@@TheDonutMan3000 Any insight on if there's a security professional I can call to have them review my house for the best practical ways to increase security? I don't even know what to Google for that.
@@Kailokel the Police usually offers safety inspections, where they give you tips for upgrades and where to get them for your budget. That’s probably the cheapest option. Or you ask a locksmith, carpenter, or window guy. You should do some research before asking them, and know your budget before calling those.
I saw the 5 minute + video length and thought they had something with the "extremely pick resistant" thing, then he started disassembling it and I realized the only reason we got more than 2 minutes is that he was playing with his food =P
I was happy to hear you explain that most people would drill out the screws before trying to drill the keyway. While working as maintenance for an apartment community I used that method several times on nonfunctioning deadbolts. Destructive, but quick and easy.
" Every expert we spoke to said stealth entry, like lock-picking and lock-bumping, is not a major concern for homeowners. Rather, robustness against forced entry is the main concern." I don't really disagree with them. You don't want to use something like the kwikset bluetooth "lock" that can be ratcheted open with a flathead screwdriver and a touch of elbow grease, but throwing a fort knox style vault door on the front of your house does nothing to stop/slow down a thief that's just going to bust through glass sliding doors on the back of your house.
exactly. what good is an expensive dead bolt if you don't have an anti-kick plate on it? what good is it if you have ground level windows? or as you say, a sliding glass door? security is only as good as your weakest link unless you station armed guards around your house 24/7.
Be nice if they had at least a modicum of robustness. Before I knew any better, I replaced the locks on my old house with a new set of Brinks upon the recommendation of a "knowledgeable" friend when the old Kwiksets had suffered from too many years of use and weather exposure and were just plain worn out. They lasted a week before the outer knobs pulled off right in my hands with hardly any force when opening one and closing the other. I wasn't going gorilla on them or anything and they were properly installed, I was just letting myself in and suddenly found myself holding the knob with the door swinging free. The metal where the knob joined the shaft just broke on one and the whole outer component of the other came off leaving the lock innards exposed, no lock picking required. It was unsettling how little it'd take to force entry with those.
@@theghostofthomasjenkins9643 There is one major flaw with that reasoning in a lot of cases....criminals don't like to be caught, and smashing a windows makes a lot of noise. In this neighbourhood that would mean instant calls to 112 (emergency number here) Also, windows are stronger than you might think, especially is you have brakein resistant double glazing :) (I haven't tried it out, but I'm sure it's stronger than normal double glazing....and that took quite some force to get through with a heavy hammer....)
Look into bypass attacks and raking instead of single pin picking. There's plenty of interesting stuff out there without having to repeat "got a click out of three" all day!
From watching LPL's videos, there seems to be a order (easiest to hardest) in breaking through these locks. From what I've seen (and please, suggest differences - I'm not a lock picker, just someone who wants a secure lock) in order of lowest skilled to highest: 1. Bumping a lock 2. Using a forcing tool on a lock 3. Drilling out a lock (noisier, harder to hide a drill) 4. lock picking, novice skill (i.e. easy binning, simple pins) - raking may fall here. 5. lock picking, novice + skill (binned (is that a word?) pins) 6. lock picking novice ++ or low intermediate skill (spool pins) Beyond 6 I'm not sure how they would be characterized. So, my questions, A. What's beyond #6 above (and also please add / change the list for those experienced ppl)? B. As a rubric, would this be a good way to rate a lock? I like the concept of the above rubric as it prioritizes resistance to easy attacks - i.e. a lock that is hard to pick but can be forced is still a poor lock. After seeing a lot of LPL videos, it appears that all locks are pickable by him in less than a minute, but if I can keep 90% of the less skillful people (those that are criminals) out of my house, I probably have a good lock. Thoughts?
Bumping and raking are the most common techniques known by people. A combination of pin types and lengths, alongside different spring strengths, is the best defence against those techniques. These qualities also make it more complicated to pick. This combined with hardened, drill-resistant plating is what you should be looking for to prevent low skilled entry. You will likely never meet someone who has the same picking ability as LPL, he's a real freak of nature in this regard.
Keep watching and you will start to understand what he is doing. You can check out BosnianBill if you feel like this is a field you are interested in. Lockpicking can be a Very profitable business or even a side job!
I never really had an interest in lock picking until I found your channel. You sir are a master at this and now I want to learn the trade! Thank you for sharing and going in depth on the locks themselves! You are the lock Guru!
3:17 it’s actually quite nice to see that your gutting skills have also been refined, compared to older videos where the key pins would just be tapped out.
He's said before that he doesn't recommend locks, at least not in so many words. Apparently, there's some legal liability involved. He does say, "this is a lock I'd use"
He often says some locks are ones he would use. It would good to see a couple of locks at a higher price point. I'm sure they all have flaws of some sort.
@@mrbmp09 well, $1 for the bits that go into that lock. Buying the security pins is something like $20 for a hundred pins, maybe less. But you can set up all the locks in your house with that purchase.
Nah, Kwikset is way better than Schlage for that. The keyway alone is much easier to deal with. Schlage is actually decently competent, it's just that LPL's skills are insane.
What a timely video! I bought a house where none of the exterior doors have matching locks and all of the knobs are so old that they don’t fully pull the latch open. Been wanting to replace them since I moved in, and I’m sure locks like this are more than sufficient for my extremely rural home. To be honest, I don’t even lock up at night, only when I leave.
This was actually the first real lock I picked (back door of my house) after practicing for a few hours with some practice locks off Amazon. Took around 3 minutes
Great video! The older B60 really was a good lock. Other than the zinc cylinder that could honestly be replaced very inexpensively, it was solid. I honestly hate how the newer ones don't have the icepick shield. The lock is much less stable and provides significantly less protection against brute force attacks.
I enjoy the videos. I'm an in-house locksmith (only rekeying the locks we sell). The burglary method of entry that I hear about the most is: knock on the door... no answer... kick the door in.
your lessons just got me out of the locked garage, there was no other way into the house unless i broke the door handle or picked my way in. I managed to find a safety pin and wiggle it into the lock, I shook the door handle until it was surprisingly unlocked, i did not expect it to work.
I'd be interested in seeing a comparison between this lock and one you would consider better by spending a little more money. What would be some of the main differences or features that the better one has? Also, does having 4 identical spools classify this lock as a low-end option or is there something else? Thanks!
I think he's said it before -- no lock is perfect; you want to get one that suits your purpose. A higher end lock (i.e. a high security lock) would have more pick resistance or require specialized tools to pick. Something like an Abloy would do great -- but you won't find it for $35. But this lock here already requires some serious tools or lockpicking skills to defeat. The NYT article in the description does a good job talking about why they chose it. Add in a reinforced deadbolt and your door is probably as secure as it needs to be. Probably easier to take a crowbar to your window. Article goes on to recommend that if you want to increase your security -- start investing in other areas. You're only as secure as your weakest link. Your door itself, automated flood lights, security cameras. Who you've ever lent a copy of your key too (relatives to watch your house, babysitters).
Remember that not only is no lock completely perfect, but any system meant to keep someone out is only as strong as its weakest point. No matter how good a door lock is, most house doors are made of wood, and have windows on them. It matters very little how good the lock is if someone can pry or kick the door open, or simply break a window and reach through, and unlock the door more easily than defeating the lock. You should consider if the door you are putting any lock on is worth the cost of a more expensive lock before buying it.
I feel like lock picking is for the same type of people who enjoy preforming surgery's without the bedside manner. Very cool, highly artistics, extremely admirable in my eyes. Great video!
3 changes to this lock would've made it amazingly pick and fire resistant. 1: steel instead of cast zinc because zinc has a low melting temperature. 2 : different springs (stiffness) could confuse or slow down a thief. 3 : equipping the core with trap pins Ofcourse the lock would cost atleast $70 but you and your possesions would be safe for the couple extra dollars
More like; NYT: "This is the best lock you can get for this money." LPL: "I may or may not have another preference if I had to buy a lock at that price point, but this is a solid lock for the money and I can see why a reasonable person would make it their preference at this price point."
A nice thing about Schlage is that you can get locks and cylinders with the C-keyway in a lot of different configurations. Even some of their cheaper deadbolts are already drilled for a 6th pin, so you just need to make or find a 6-pin key to have a little better security. I was able to buy a 6-pin C-keyway cylinder for
most burglars are drug addicts or other waste who rather use drills and power tools. i prefer a proper hardened front over extremely pick resistant lock.
@@zero11010 True, and while the bitting didn't look completely awful, it could've been better. A very low cut on the first pin and/or middle pin and even LPL mitght've had to get out a bigger hook, and bumping it would be very difficult. So it might've taken him another 10 seconds or so :) I should mention I have the double-cylinder version of these on my doors. They're good, reliable locks. The bitting is extreme enough that I haven't been able to bump mine, though admittedly there are likely people much better at it than I. I could get something better but it's rather pointless when you have many windows in your house.
Much more complicated as modern car keys require electronic identification from the key itself. There is almost no mechanical complexity to the lock design, it's 99% technological.
@@sdjohnston67 As far as i know, STUFF MADE HERE just made a lock wich he claims is unpickable and to prove it he send it to lpl. The lock really is super impressive tho.
Buy cheap and well guess what. Curious about lock picking tools in Australia. Just be careful. It is not illegal to purchase lock picking tools in Australia. There is no federal (Australia wide) law that sets out the situations in which it may be illegal to possess and use lock picking tools. As Usual Australia has most fun things removed from the general population and not the criminals.
Pick lock; one minute Disassemble; one minute 'best lock'; priceless I learned to pick on Schlage locks while installing and testing alarm systems at 3 a.m. Door hinges were almost always unprotected.
There's another RUclipsr that made an obnoxiously complex lock that he thinks may be lock proof and apparently is going to send it to LPL. I really want to see the analysis on that one because the mechanism was pretty clever.
Only claimed "extreme pick resistance" which is technically true for most locks and only a matter of opinion away from "somewhat pick resistant", which was LPL's assessment. There's only a few ways to improve this lock without switching to a different mechanism.
LPL is a master picker, hence why he's able to pick locks in such a short time. Anywhere between 30 seconds to 2 minutes for him means it's unlikely any novice pickers will be picking the lock in question open, this being one of them.
His partner behind CovertInstruments, Deviant Ollam, has a good video series on lock advice: /watch?v=pwkeSzbsLsU&list=PLahIOhhZSewmbtejX3GAnuIxAsukvLn4B
Actually this is not really a bad lock, because of the spool pins. I think it fends off most of the "simple" burglars and crooks. The real problem is in the door opening mechanism: you only need haf a turn to fully open the door. A standard front door here in The Netherlands is not very special, but you need three full rotations to open its lock. Hence, you need to pick the lock three times. Smashing a window or pulling the core out is a lot easier than picking the lock in practice. Other than that, I really enjoy watching these videos, so please keep the content coming :)
I'd say "not horrible" is accurate. The brute force resistance looks pretty good. This might be a great candidate for me to pick up and practice on once I get a little better :)
Good night to you !!!! Average price for simple locks !!!! Today it has become fashionable. Abus, Corbin and other brands with four driver mushrooms. Five-pin locks mostly. They take a little more time from me. 2 minutes .... 3 if I made a mistake while going through the pins. Your 40 seconds is impressive))). This video made me smile !!!! ))) Great handwork !!!!!!!
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Video 1234? Hey - that's the combination on my luggage!
No way, you have the same pin as my bank account!!!
Pick ur luggage with youtube title...
Telepathic lockpicking is now a thing
Only an idiot would have that combination 😳😂 🤣
( love that movie!)
Did everyone else just miss the Spaceballs reference?
"Entry level" in the context of unauthorised entry prevention devices makes me chuckle
ikr! That's like the worst marketing catchphrase for a lock.
"It isn't just a lever"
realistically speaking it's plenty secure enough for 99% of applications, and for the remaining 1% of applications just upgrading your deadbolt isn't going to be enough. breaking and entering by lockpicking is almost unheard of. it's one of those things everyone thinks is a threat but just plain isn't
@@SuperAWaC Maybe if you had barred windows someone might try and drill out the lock. But if you have regular windows? Someone's definitely just gonna use a brick.
Oh god, you're right. I wasn't cluey enough to put two and two together. You, sir, get an exasperated groan. Please use it responsibly, and stay legal.
You should do like a "best of" series where you show off the highest quality, most resistant, toughest locks on the market
He could do multiple series. Best locks under $50, best locks under $100, best locks under $150, and so on
i'd love that
a best "door locks"
a best "U lock"
best whatever type of lock
Please do a most secure door ( mass production) lock at any price range.
Agreed I’ve posted this many times. There’s a reason he won’t. Don’t know it though.
@@whitedobie probably because it will be free marketing for the brands he tests, not to mention there are tons of locks, and also if someone gets their lock busted they could blame him for recommending the product in the first place.
"Most criminals will..."
I love the idea that one day LPL is interviewing a client charged with burglary, and just grills him on his picking technique. "You should have had that open in 15 seconds, instead you mucked about for 3 minutes and got caught. Shame."
I don't think he's a criminal defense lawyer, so won't get those clients.
imagine LPL picking an exhibit lock to prove his client was innocent
@@vaclavjebavy5118 would convince me
“Ladies and gentlemen, members of the jury, in conclusion let me reiterate: picking this lock in 3 minutes is not breaking and entering.
It is a complete accident that the door ended up unlocked.
My client was obviously entirely incapable of breaking in.
What we are discussing here was an act of god.
Thank you.
Harry specialised in corporate law, he didn't do criminal cases.
38 seconds from when he inserted the pick until he got it to turn. That's actually pretty good by the standards of this channel.
When we get to video number 12345 we can try to see if we can get a click out of all the number in the title
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12345? That's the combination to my luggage!
@@BlissfullWulf HOW THE HELL DID THEY KNOW THAT?
@@Joe_Mama.also_YTHandlessuckass bc 12345 is a really weak combination. No need to pick, just try easy codes
With current LPL's video output that's 50.5 years :D
Lockpocking is a career path that opens many doors for a person.
underrated
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Bruh
Comedy gold!
it may get you thrown in the slammer
Did LPL go back to basics in his tone because he knows that readers of the article will find their way here? That is very thoughtful.
I was thinking the exact same thing. He seemed to be taking his time too.
He even explained why he used a follower. (Y)
100%. I wouldn't be surprised if this gets linked back to the Wirecutter article, so seeing him do a full gutting (which I haven't seen in a bit) was a welcome addition. The plug for his own tools was a nice throw in as well. :D
plugged his gear/tools as well
I thought the same here. Very smart.
Remember people not a piece of wood, but a piece of door.
If cut from a door; its a piece of door.
Also, it wouldn't have been a piece of wood either way, its multiple pieces which are glued together, and laminated.
That is so weird I also make my doors out of door.
@@adamb89 But do you use multiple pieces of door? Or are you making a door for mice?
Doors don’t grow on trees ya know
The same stuff they made Rose and Jack's raft out of
I like to imagine he just got a jigsaw and cut this out of his neighbour’s door
Neighbors: damn it the neighbor stole a price of our door again
dustin the gamer that’s called a discount
I like the idea that he learned all these complex lock-picking techniques but then just hacks off deadbolts
“Not too bad for 35 dollars”
Took 40 seconds for LPL to unlock
Company: *stonks*
Is this the next GME?
40 seconds for LPL is pretty respectable for a budget lock. Took twice as long as I would have predicted.
Yeah, at this price point a lock that can't be raked easily is a good lock.
@@GentlemenMonkey remember that lock that said "exceeds maximum security" several times on the box? I think it was something like 9-11 seconds. So 40 for an entry level lock from the lpl is almost a praise 😂
I think his point it is more resistant than most locks in the price range to low skill attacks like bump keys, and drilling.
Have to say, that as much fun as it was to see him speed through picking this one, I really enjoy when he takes the extra time to break the lock down and show what makes it excel as well as what makes it weak.
just a random person here saying i appreciate your name and "the wheel weaves as the wheel wills"
LPL did it with all of his old videos until he blew up on RUclips, then starting making short 2 min videos (I'm assuming he makes more from RUclips by doing lots of short videos, than a few long ones). I, too, miss seeing videos like this.
@@j4byers My understanding is that RUclips prioritizes watch-time. So the more time we spend watching LPL's videos, the more they get recommended (with the caveat that no one really knows that the algorithm does). Certainly seems like long videos would lead to more watch-time, causing RUclips to promote the videos more, and earn more money overall. I think LPL just doesn't take apart locks as often anymore simply because because he has already taken apart very similar locks in previous videos. And maybe because he's spending more time on his day job, or the covert instruments thing.
Bosnian Bill is much more in depth, he actually teaches you everything he knows. He is the guy that got LPL to start picking.
Hey Tam, you looking forward to the WoT adaptation?
ok that was kinda impressive for the lock to hold him off for a whole 40 seconds
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@@AxxLAfriku get a real job an stop asking for hand outs... thank you bro
@@AxxLAfriku I'm not gonna say youtube cant be a real job or career but the way you are doing is the saddest thing ever
Also yes that lock held out longer than just so this comment thread isn't about a bot
The lock disassembly was as if a surgeon was performing it - Cautious, cold and clinical. Almost mesmerizing to watch!
More post-pick disassembles please!
I wish RUclips would let us order LPL's videos from longest to shortest.
Considering it took you 40 seconds to pick it I would say this is a decent lock.
40 sec for lpl so normal human lock picker like an hr
he opens ducktape for one minute...
so duckdape is better than most locks
Consider also that he talks and described what he did should he not do that and focus on open the lock then the time should be a couple seconds les. But yeah for standard doors it seems to be a decent lock.
More than decent. If lpl took 40 seconds, it would take a human probably somewhere from 4-40 minutes.
@@Smoke--- Nah even with the spool pins, it could probably be opened with a bump pick within a minute by most amateurs.
It's an "entry-level" lock. Like LPL, I am looking for one that denies entry.
Get something that scans your retina while also requiring your fingerprint which is activated by a key that you keep hidden so nobody can copy it visually. The addition of a voice detection software and spoken passcode would also improve the difficulty for anyone not permitted to gain entry.
If you meant you want a lock, which uses a key, that cannot be picked, then I have bad news for you
@@chrismanuel9768 LPL modified a Kwikset to be nearly pick-proof (that is to say, the chances of picking it the first time are astronomically low and entirely luck-based, and there is no second chance because it permanently seizes if the pins aren't all perfectly aligned the first time.) The downside is that it becomes entry-proof to all, including the owner of whatever is locked.
Just buy a pet Komodo Dragon
@@LordSevla Even better, just get a full-on dragon.
@@chrismanuel9768 I disagree, there's some unpickable locks that require a key to open, they just aren't made for use on doors, but with some creative mind you can work around that. LPL made vids on bowley(I think thats their name?) locks but can't recall which video's exactly.
I love it when we get to see the locks taken apart afterwards. Even when it's just a silly wafer lock.
Is zigcore the same as a wafer?
Listening to well spoken people speak is sweet, so clear, thorough, efficient.
best lockpick defense: keep relocking the door every time they finish it
Just hold the deadbolt shut
Of course, then they'll also know you're right behind the door so you better hope they don't have a gun...
@@Vousie The jokes on them then. My fat ass would make a wonderful doorstop. They shoot me and they ain't getting in. Check and mate! Although i imagine that sounds weird, most front doors here open inwards.
@@chrisjackson1215 that's pretty normal for residential doors. its commercial/public/etc. doors that open outward to prevent a fire hazard, but presumably if you live with people you'd be able to coordinate going out a door with them.
plus in hotels/apartments, no chance of opening the door in someone's face while they're walking by
Put 4 deadbolts. Two that lock clockwise, two that lock counter clockwise. Keep two locked and two unlocked. When the burglar opens two, they will lock two.
NYT: "Really good lock"
LPL: "Really good CHEAP lock"
it was "entry level" after all
Has some drill resistance, but insignificant pick resistance.
@@u.v.s.5583 4 spools is more than enough for the vast majority of cases. If it can't be raked or bumped easily then it's probably good enough for 99% of homes
Too expensive for landlords though. Only the cheapest and worst will do.
yeah. it feels like an unnecessary distinction, im not imaging anyone who get home security advice from a blog is well stocked for cash
"Huh, a >5 minute video. Must be a tough lock"
2 minutes later: "Never mind"
40 seconds for LPL to pick is a pretty damn good lock.
@@ScottKenny1978 Good for the price. That's for sure.
@@danieltilson4053 yeah, I've seen locks that cost twice as much take half the time!
@@danieltilson4053 Yeah. For a lock that you'll use on your home where a criminal is more likely to break a window or sliding glass door? I agree with this lock being recommended. Homeowners don't need a super complex hard to pick lock. What they need is kick resistant frames and good alarm systems with glass break sensors.
I really love that those videos are straight forward!
No unnecessary blah blah. Just condensed information and precicely executed picking.
I was an emergency locksmith for years, and Schlages were generally much more difficult than the rest of standard residential locks. That said, they are certainly pickable.
ANYTHING is pickable with enough time and skill but locks really only keep honest people honest anyway and a burglar is more likely to kick in the front door or smash a window than they are to pick a lock lol
When he says you can get higher quality for a little more, what brand do you think he speaks of?
@@Eric-dr5bj I wish I knew, haha. I mean, I am sure I know the brand if he said it, but I don't know what he is referring to. Only thing I would think of is a higher grade (commercial) Schlage. The others are not just a little more expensive.
@@3nertia In my many years as both a contractor and a locksmith, I saw the results of many break in attempts. I never saw one where they picked the lock. I did see one where the criminals knew what they were doing and drilled out a Schlage LFIC core. I saw one other attempt at drilling by a moron with a step bit. When that failed, he threw a rock through the window. All of the other break ins were done by idiotic brute force.
@@Paramount531 I mean, we're lazy by nature and it takes skills, time, and patience to pick locks. Or they could buy one of those snap guns for $30 if they're slightly smarter criminals. That still technically counts as "lock-picking" but requires very little skill to operate successfully lol
As I was told once before, the lock on your door doesn't matter. If someone wants to break into your house a 4' crowbar will likely get them into it. The trick is to make your house less desirable for a random robbery than your neighbors house.
Yep, that's exactly how we got robbed. Even under the watchful eye of building security. We have the whole video.
Not necessarily. There’s a certain maximum amount of time a burglar will spend on your house, before he‘ll move on. As a carpenter, I’ve been called to fix damages by burglary damages a few times. The victims had proper window and door fittings (?), and break resistant glass, so the burglars didn’t get in. It’s not like they didn’t try, too. The windows were damaged pretty badly. The point is, if you want to be safe, you need to spend the money.
Saying that, I once replaced a door for a guy who was getting raided by special forces (don’t know any background). He had a relatively cheap aluminium door from the hardware store, yet they couldn’t breach the door. They basically folded the door in half with a battering ram and still it wouldn’t open. They ended up going over the roof and through the window, the holes in the glass from the flashbangs were still there. It was wild man
@@TheDonutMan3000 Any insight on if there's a security professional I can call to have them review my house for the best practical ways to increase security? I don't even know what to Google for that.
@@Kailokel the Police usually offers safety inspections, where they give you tips for upgrades and where to get them for your budget. That’s probably the cheapest option. Or you ask a locksmith, carpenter, or window guy. You should do some research before asking them, and know your budget before calling those.
@@KailokelPenetration testers, but you're gonna pay out the nose for that skillset.
Can we see you put the lock back together?
watch the video in reverse
Underrated pair of comments and also profile names
No
@@thebigdug 😂
What are you doing here lmao
Lock disassembled = my favorite content from LPL. I just find it fascinating.
I saw the 5 minute + video length and thought they had something with the "extremely pick resistant" thing, then he started disassembling it and I realized the only reason we got more than 2 minutes is that he was playing with his food =P
I saw the thumbnail and title and thought to myself “Is that the ‘STUFF’ brand lock I’ve been waiting for?”
Thought the same. It will come....
STUFF
We need that one soon.
Yeah samee! I really wanna see it😔
Is it still being shipped? Like from one pole to another?
Article: "Significantly Pick Resistant"
LPL: You what mate?
I was happy to hear you explain that most people would drill out the screws before trying to drill the keyway. While working as maintenance for an apartment community I used that method several times on nonfunctioning deadbolts. Destructive, but quick and easy.
" Every expert we spoke to said stealth entry, like lock-picking and lock-bumping, is not a major concern for homeowners. Rather, robustness against forced entry is the main concern."
I don't really disagree with them. You don't want to use something like the kwikset bluetooth "lock" that can be ratcheted open with a flathead screwdriver and a touch of elbow grease, but throwing a fort knox style vault door on the front of your house does nothing to stop/slow down a thief that's just going to bust through glass sliding doors on the back of your house.
Thats true, but they must not say "extrem pick resistant"
exactly. what good is an expensive dead bolt if you don't have an anti-kick plate on it? what good is it if you have ground level windows? or as you say, a sliding glass door?
security is only as good as your weakest link unless you station armed guards around your house 24/7.
Exactly or as what happened to a neighbor a concrete flower pot through the patio door.
Be nice if they had at least a modicum of robustness. Before I knew any better, I replaced the locks on my old house with a new set of Brinks upon the recommendation of a "knowledgeable" friend when the old Kwiksets had suffered from too many years of use and weather exposure and were just plain worn out. They lasted a week before the outer knobs pulled off right in my hands with hardly any force when opening one and closing the other. I wasn't going gorilla on them or anything and they were properly installed, I was just letting myself in and suddenly found myself holding the knob with the door swinging free. The metal where the knob joined the shaft just broke on one and the whole outer component of the other came off leaving the lock innards exposed, no lock picking required. It was unsettling how little it'd take to force entry with those.
@@theghostofthomasjenkins9643 There is one major flaw with that reasoning in a lot of cases....criminals don't like to be caught, and smashing a windows makes a lot of noise. In this neighbourhood that would mean instant calls to 112 (emergency number here)
Also, windows are stronger than you might think, especially is you have brakein resistant double glazing :) (I haven't tried it out, but I'm sure it's stronger than normal double glazing....and that took quite some force to get through with a heavy hammer....)
I'm curious what your opinion on the best "mid tier" door lock would be.
A roll of duct tape.
A sign "Please don't come to steal" on the door
Using a master lock, no one will think there is something important behind one
A shotgun trap door
I'm also quite interested in this. Would love it if LPL gave some recommendations on locks.
Me: Man, LPL makes me want to learn to pick locks
Also me: Disabled in such a fashion that I can scarcely open locks with their actual keys
Be the first person to pick a lock with no hands!
Look into bypass attacks and raking instead of single pin picking. There's plenty of interesting stuff out there without having to repeat "got a click out of three" all day!
Just buy a Master Lock. They're easier to open with a pick than a key.
Living vicariously through others?
"Extremely pick resistant..." - Editor
"And I took that personally" - LPL
This is one of your best videos. You show your dexterity. you explain well. It looks like one shot. you are a miracle, thank you.
From watching LPL's videos, there seems to be a order (easiest to hardest) in breaking through these locks. From what I've seen (and please, suggest differences - I'm not a lock picker, just someone who wants a secure lock) in order of lowest skilled to highest:
1. Bumping a lock
2. Using a forcing tool on a lock
3. Drilling out a lock (noisier, harder to hide a drill)
4. lock picking, novice skill (i.e. easy binning, simple pins) - raking may fall here.
5. lock picking, novice + skill (binned (is that a word?) pins)
6. lock picking novice ++ or low intermediate skill (spool pins)
Beyond 6 I'm not sure how they would be characterized.
So, my questions,
A. What's beyond #6 above (and also please add / change the list for those experienced ppl)?
B. As a rubric, would this be a good way to rate a lock?
I like the concept of the above rubric as it prioritizes resistance to easy attacks - i.e. a lock that is hard to pick but can be forced is still a poor lock.
After seeing a lot of LPL videos, it appears that all locks are pickable by him in less than a minute, but if I can keep 90% of the less skillful people (those that are criminals) out of my house, I probably have a good lock.
Thoughts?
Bumping and raking are the most common techniques known by people. A combination of pin types and lengths, alongside different spring strengths, is the best defence against those techniques. These qualities also make it more complicated to pick.
This combined with hardened, drill-resistant plating is what you should be looking for to prevent low skilled entry. You will likely never meet someone who has the same picking ability as LPL, he's a real freak of nature in this regard.
You know he’s gonna do ‘em dirty when he busts out the quotation marks
Don’t really understand anything. Just like hearing the clicks 😂
Same here
This is the channel where people learn how to pick locks and do nothing with that information
Keep watching and you will start to understand what he is doing. You can check out BosnianBill if you feel like this is a field you are interested in. Lockpicking can be a Very profitable business or even a side job!
I'm here for the ASMR
"Don't really understand anything. Just like hearing the clicks" - That's what she said
I never really had an interest in lock picking until I found your channel. You sir are a master at this and now I want to learn the trade! Thank you for sharing and going in depth on the locks themselves! You are the lock Guru!
Watching these is the best way to wind down after a pretty intense day. Thanks for a plethora of content.
I wish you had recommended the brand of lock that is better for just a little more money.
I guess locks are like streaming sites. It's not in your interest to talk about the one you're using on a public platform.
Wife: Why is there a bowl of water on the floor?
Me: it’s a piece of lake
You funny fucker, you got me 😂
Make sure to get some mud and rocks next time.
He's the reason why I think of spool pins everytime I sing really high notes
Most obscure pun EVER. Congrats!
@@jeffaley2895 Thanks, I'm kinda proud of it
3:17 it’s actually quite nice to see that your gutting skills have also been refined, compared to older videos where the key pins would just be tapped out.
Looks like it hardly qualifies as a lock... but you always make it look easy. Great video, as usal. Thanks!
I really like these videos because it’s so unique and entertaining.
Yes
Ok nice
I'd love to see your picks for best budget lock up through the best ever. A top 5 or 10.
He's said before that he doesn't recommend locks, at least not in so many words. Apparently, there's some legal liability involved.
He does say, "this is a lock I'd use"
He often says some locks are ones he would use. It would good to see a couple of locks at a higher price point. I'm sure they all have flaws of some sort.
You can see all his picks at CovertInstruments.com ... But that's probably not what you meant ...
He uses a modified kwikset. $1 mod.
@@mrbmp09 well, $1 for the bits that go into that lock. Buying the security pins is something like $20 for a hundred pins, maybe less. But you can set up all the locks in your house with that purchase.
"This is one of the best entry level locks..."
At this moment I was so eager to hear "nice click out two, three is binding"
There's goes the nyt for being so honest and thorough
"Entry level" as a description for locks has more meaning than intended ;)
What lock WOULD you suggest? For someone who is willing to spend the money.
"The best door lock" (for beginners to try pick open once they wanna move away from master lock)
Nah, Kwikset is way better than Schlage for that. The keyway alone is much easier to deal with. Schlage is actually decently competent, it's just that LPL's skills are insane.
*“The Best Door Lock”*
LPL picked it in 40 seconds
*_"We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled!"_*
That's actually pretty decent LPL standards
I'd agree with Joe. 40s to pick is pretty much high end stuff around here.
That's a really long time for lpl. He usually takes about 1-15 seconds.
What a timely video! I bought a house where none of the exterior doors have matching locks and all of the knobs are so old that they don’t fully pull the latch open. Been wanting to replace them since I moved in, and I’m sure locks like this are more than sufficient for my extremely rural home. To be honest, I don’t even lock up at night, only when I leave.
I love how you don't crap on people's opinions\thoughts\conclusions on things. I wish this was more widespread in the world!
This was actually the first real lock I picked (back door of my house) after practicing for a few hours with some practice locks off Amazon. Took around 3 minutes
Great video! The older B60 really was a good lock. Other than the zinc cylinder that could honestly be replaced very inexpensively, it was solid. I honestly hate how the newer ones don't have the icepick shield. The lock is much less stable and provides significantly less protection against brute force attacks.
It would be nice if you did an annual round up of your recommended locks in specific categories.
I enjoy the videos. I'm an in-house locksmith (only rekeying the locks we sell). The burglary method of entry that I hear about the most is: knock on the door... no answer... kick the door in.
your lessons just got me out of the locked garage, there was no other way into the house unless i broke the door handle or picked my way in. I managed to find a safety pin and wiggle it into the lock, I shook the door handle until it was surprisingly unlocked, i did not expect it to work.
Me in 2020: Waiting on the collab with Stuff Made Here
Me in 2021: Still waiting on the collab with Stuff Made Here
😭😭😭
Saw the header and thought this was that lock :[
@@cullendouget5155 same dude
Same
*Mock Hank Hill* "Hey, do you want it done fast, or do you want it done right!?" */Mock Hank Hill* :P
@@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning uhhhh both..... And good reference mate
I'd be interested in seeing a comparison between this lock and one you would consider better by spending a little more money. What would be some of the main differences or features that the better one has? Also, does having 4 identical spools classify this lock as a low-end option or is there something else? Thanks!
Agreed. @LockPickingLawyer which lock would you recommend?
Spools still kick my butt T_T I can do serrated pins but with multiple spools I'm stopped cold.
@@michaelbenzmiller8829 he seems to never recommend locks. just some he hates less than others
I think he's said it before -- no lock is perfect; you want to get one that suits your purpose.
A higher end lock (i.e. a high security lock) would have more pick resistance or require specialized tools to pick. Something like an Abloy would do great -- but you won't find it for $35.
But this lock here already requires some serious tools or lockpicking skills to defeat. The NYT article in the description does a good job talking about why they chose it. Add in a reinforced deadbolt and your door is probably as secure as it needs to be. Probably easier to take a crowbar to your window. Article goes on to recommend that if you want to increase your security -- start investing in other areas. You're only as secure as your weakest link. Your door itself, automated flood lights, security cameras. Who you've ever lent a copy of your key too (relatives to watch your house, babysitters).
Remember that not only is no lock completely perfect, but any system meant to keep someone out is only as strong as its weakest point. No matter how good a door lock is, most house doors are made of wood, and have windows on them. It matters very little how good the lock is if someone can pry or kick the door open, or simply break a window and reach through, and unlock the door more easily than defeating the lock. You should consider if the door you are putting any lock on is worth the cost of a more expensive lock before buying it.
Pick into a man's lock, and you get him inside his house. Teach a man to pick locks, and you get him into any house.
A want that on a t-shirt.
this took me a minute to underatand
Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, you’ve saved yourself a fish,
I feel like lock picking is for the same type of people who enjoy preforming surgery's without the bedside manner.
Very cool, highly artistics, extremely admirable in my eyes. Great video!
The honesty is refreshing
I’d call 40 seconds extremely pick resistant!
3 changes to this lock would've made it amazingly pick and fire resistant. 1: steel instead of cast zinc because zinc has a low melting temperature.
2 : different springs (stiffness) could confuse or slow down a thief.
3 : equipping the core with trap pins
Ofcourse the lock would cost atleast $70 but you and your possesions would be safe for the couple extra dollars
NYT: "This is the best lock"
LPL: "I'll be the judge of that"
It's a brave person who reviews a lock on the NYT. They should know they are going to answer to the lock picking lawyer.
LockPickingJudge
More like;
NYT: "This is the best lock you can get for this money."
LPL: "I may or may not have another preference if I had to buy a lock at that price point, but this is a solid lock for the money and I can see why a reasonable person would make it their preference at this price point."
> takes more than 30 seconds to pick
> STONKS
A nice thing about Schlage is that you can get locks and cylinders with the C-keyway in a lot of different configurations. Even some of their cheaper deadbolts are already drilled for a 6th pin, so you just need to make or find a 6-pin key to have a little better security. I was able to buy a 6-pin C-keyway cylinder for
Oooh! Ever since I saw the Wirecutter article I was hoping for this day.
LockpickingLawyer: puts it in
Her:oh yeah
LockpickingLawyer: "got a click out of one.."
“Extremely pick resistant” for someone with no tools, who has never picked anything before. LPL: picks it faster than I can type this.
to be fair LPL is a picking expert.
For him ... that was a decent amount of time to pick the thing. Doesn’t seem bad for $35.
most burglars are drug addicts or other waste who rather use drills and power tools. i prefer a proper hardened front over extremely pick resistant lock.
@@zero11010 True, and while the bitting didn't look completely awful, it could've been better. A very low cut on the first pin and/or middle pin and even LPL mitght've had to get out a bigger hook, and bumping it would be very difficult. So it might've taken him another 10 seconds or so :) I should mention I have the double-cylinder version of these on my doors. They're good, reliable locks. The bitting is extreme enough that I haven't been able to bump mine, though admittedly there are likely people much better at it than I. I could get something better but it's rather pointless when you have many windows in your house.
@@beeble2003 you may not know how difficult it is to type fast on a phone. Not everyone has a real keyboard.
I want to see this guy lockpick a car ignition key.
With some special tools for it, yeah
Sadly, that's not picking tho :D
Much more complicated as modern car keys require electronic identification from the key itself. There is almost no mechanical complexity to the lock design, it's 99% technological.
@@Blobbyo25 I'd be surprised if there were significant bypasses
@@Blobbyo25 maybe high-end car keys. I have a 2020 Civic and it's just a normal key with fob
@@_Stormfather Nope there is definitely a chip inside the key that you can't see. Every car after about '95-'98 will have one.
As always learning something new every time I watch
I love it when you gut the locks. Would like to see more of that.
I can’t wait to see the STUFF MADE HERE lock!!!
Wait. Is the LPL collaborating on a lock design?
@@sdjohnston67 As far as i know, STUFF MADE HERE just made a lock wich he claims is unpickable and to prove it he send it to lpl. The lock really is super impressive tho.
Something about the phrase "entry level lock" just doesn't sound right
Right? Locks are supposed to PREVENT entry!
Okay but this is the first time I've seen the lock actually fight back for once, Like it routed his attempts for like 2-4 seconds.
Very diplomatic review, his lawyer super power with words shines just as bright with this review =)
Yes! A video showing the disassembly of a lock!
“With Schlage your security is always vague”
Great videos and love your work. What would you consider to be a better lock in that or slightly higher price range?
In this video we've learned: Extremely pick resistant is not the top level. They should make: LPL pick resistant
He's made a modified Kwikset that would be LPL pick resistant if he didn't know the bitting of the lock.
Not sure any lock can beat that standard but a few might be able to manage pick resistant versus anybody not LPL or Bosnian Bill.
Buy cheap and well guess what. Curious about lock picking tools in Australia. Just be careful. It is not illegal to purchase lock picking tools in Australia. There is no federal (Australia wide) law that sets out the situations in which it may be illegal to possess and use lock picking tools. As Usual Australia has most fun things removed from the general population and not the criminals.
Pick lock; one minute
Disassemble; one minute
'best lock'; priceless
I learned to pick on Schlage locks while installing and testing alarm systems at 3 a.m.
Door hinges were almost always unprotected.
Lock company: claiming their Locks pick proof.
LPL: *and I took that personally*
There's another RUclipsr that made an obnoxiously complex lock that he thinks may be lock proof and apparently is going to send it to LPL. I really want to see the analysis on that one because the mechanism was pretty clever.
@@kerradeph that lock might actually be pickproof or at least pickproof without a special tool
@@kerradeph Stuff Made Here?
Still waiting for him to send the lock to LPL.
Only claimed "extreme pick resistance" which is technically true for most locks and only a matter of opinion away from "somewhat pick resistant", which was LPL's assessment. There's only a few ways to improve this lock without switching to a different mechanism.
@@johndododoe1411 true enough.
Has an (apparently) tough keyway in addition to lots of security pins, plus all that drill protection.
Lock reviewer : This is the most secure lock.
LPL : I will need about 1 minute.
LPL is a master picker, hence why he's able to pick locks in such a short time. Anywhere between 30 seconds to 2 minutes for him means it's unlikely any novice pickers will be picking the lock in question open, this being one of them.
Saw the thumbnail and thought it was Stuff made here's un-pickable lock :'(
Still waiting
Same, I'm checking every few weeks for that.
Still nothing
A 5 minute video from LPL that most be some good stuff, smashes the play button.
Nice to see one of these types of pick and disassembly videos for a change!
I've been watching for some time but still don't have a good idea of what you would recommend for a couple $ more. Can you please give examples?
He wouldn't recommend anything, he is a lawyer after all. At most it's "a lock I would consider using".
His partner behind CovertInstruments, Deviant Ollam, has a good video series on lock advice: /watch?v=pwkeSzbsLsU&list=PLahIOhhZSewmbtejX3GAnuIxAsukvLn4B
Lpl also did a video on how you can modify a kwikset lock to be pick resistant. I think it was a video in the 900s.
@@heyster3 Pick Proof unless they know the trick behind it.
@@heyster3 I saw that one. God info.
Actually this is not really a bad lock, because of the spool pins. I think it fends off most of the "simple" burglars and crooks.
The real problem is in the door opening mechanism: you only need haf a turn to fully open the door. A standard front door here in The Netherlands is not very special, but you need three full rotations to open its lock. Hence, you need to pick the lock three times. Smashing a window or pulling the core out is a lot easier than picking the lock in practice.
Other than that, I really enjoy watching these videos, so please keep the content coming :)
That's standard in the US. Quarter or half turns are the most common.
@@spdcrzy I know it is standard, but it is also less secure in general than a lock that has to turn 3 times.
“Extremely pick resistant.”
LPL: And I took that personally.
I like how this comment is from 1 week ago, and the comment right above it from 1 month ago has the exact same joke
I'd say "not horrible" is accurate. The brute force resistance looks pretty good. This might be a great candidate for me to pick up and practice on once I get a little better :)
Good night to you !!!!
Average price for simple locks !!!!
Today it has become fashionable. Abus, Corbin and other brands with four driver mushrooms. Five-pin locks mostly. They take a little more time from me. 2 minutes .... 3 if I made a mistake while going through the pins.
Your 40 seconds is impressive))). This video made me smile !!!!
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Great handwork !!!!!!!
NYT: "Extremely pick-resistant"
LPL: And I took that personally
More like “Breaking and Entry Level”, amirite???
Badumtshh
I'm going to give you a like but I don't have to be happy about it
Me: I can't really put a price on my family's safety.
Schlage: WE CAN!
I find removing all the material around the door lock works effectively as well in a pinch.
"...certainly one of the top few picks..." 0:35 well done!