Here are my mods if you're interested: ruclips.net/video/zavhUFn2YRY/видео.html I basically reached the character limit of the description, so imma say it here: the test is not meant to be taken 100% seriously. It's hard to know everything, for example despite me having enough knowledge to make this guide, I have 0 clue about this game's breakpoints and anything math related compared to most other players and if I were to take a test related to it, I wouldn't be able to score even half the points for sure. I doubt that I would score max points on someone else's test that would be similar to mine either since everyone has a different playstyle, so if you scored 6 points, you can consider it as successfully passing the challenge. Since uploaded videos can't be re-edited properly, this comment will be the place to do that (sort of). The video has a lot of things covered, but I'm pretty sure there's stuff others might come up with that we forgot about, if you happen to do that, then reply to this comment. If what you say is correct and I think it's worth-noting, I will edit this comment and add it to the list: Stuff we forgot about: 1. Armor suppression (importance: above average) - when you trigger LoS and your armor happens to be destroyed, you won't be able to regenerate it as long as cops are aiming at you (that makes bullseye even better). This happens the most with swat turrets, be careful if you see one. 2. Hostage tanking (importance: above average) - ONLY WORKS AS HOST. I did it during the video at 37:45. As long as you're inside a dominated cop (as weird as it may sound...), their shots won't reach you, but they can still punch you, so you're not completely unkillable.
I have a two questions For assault stages especially fade, how do you abuse it? do you just kill as much as possible? but later on you said not to kill everyone so I am conflicted also for grace period how do you abuse it? like how do you force to be shot by heavy swat units and not light units? do you just target them?
After hundreds of hours of gameplay and finally getting my DSOD mask I gotta say - this is the most helpful guide on loud in PD2 I have ever seen. I salute you, sir.
Unironically the best DS guide on RUclips. Super well made, easy to understand and very helpful. Hope you guys can work together again to put out more of this banger content.
I am a returning player after more than 1 year and this has genuinely helped me, i was struggling and didtn know what to do in most heist and this made me get back most of my knowledge, thank you
Pretty good guide man, I think ill definitely be using this to learn how to get good. Btw, for fade, music cues also help because usually there's a point where songs will end and then reloop, usually the music will be leading up until that end/reloop point. I don't know if I explained it too well or not but it's something like that, it's a LOT more noticeable with ingame tracks then custom music
@@arthurchung3747 yeah, unfortunately unless you do modding (which I only do music mods which most of the time are for myself) it's only on the alesso heist
Thanks man, I certainly learned a lot of new stuff about the game with this guide. I just got into this game last week, and first I did all the heists I could on Stealth mode. But now, after learning how stealth works, it has became braindead easy for the (and its getting boring too), so I'm going in loud. But I'm still bad at the game, I'm struggling to complete most heists on Death Wish difficulty. I don't have the balls to try Death Sentence yet, but this guide will definitely help me when I go for it in the future
34:24 Damn, this is the one question I got wrong. I said kill the dozer cause I wasn't sure if there was enough room to dance around and he had already shot so I figured "armor gating". Great video, lots of great tips. I never really knew much about how cops LOS worked and never gave a whole lot of thought to some of the assault waves. I just figured "cops leaving = good".
I wanna thank Ace and team for the video. Really helps me a lot when transitioning from DW to DS. Makes DS not as daunting as I thought. An average importance I might add is reload cancelling using melee. Quite useful when youre rushed while reloading.
Hey,nice video,even as someone who played ds a lot,its enjoyable. I agree for the inspire part,since is one of the biggest discussion i do in pd2 related server. Hope more people see this video,so maybe i dont have to get nervous in pubs. Thank you je-Arn,and yokai for gameplay
I recognize that Touhou song, Rinfield remix of UN Owen was her. Good stuff as always, most things I'd definitely agree with. Even stuff I missed or wouldn't talk too much about.
really great informal video, with a lot of tips and pointers that i never knew. definitely will be trying to imply these tips into my gameplay. thank you ace
This video is underrated. One of the more (if not the most) interesting DSOD guides I've ever seen. Keep it up! Also, can I have list of songs used in the video? Liked them a lot, especially the last one - it's somewhat nostalgic to me
1. Borderlands 3 kitagawa jr boss battle theme 2. Megaraptor ecuador 3. Don't remember the name of this one because it's in japanese :c 4. Streetworkmusic GTA IV theme remix 5. Ratchet & Clank 2 planet yeedil megacorp 6. Also don't remember, but it's from this game: store.steampowered.com/app/1003590/Tetris_Effect_Connected/ 7. Megaraptor save room theme RE2 8. Resident evil 5 rust in summer 9. The binding of isaac antibirth mausoleum theme
Great guide I'm still struggling hard with it though! Every time I try to control the crowd I get 2 tapped so there must be something lol, definitely using this to try and get better.
@@ace6806 Ok a bit more than a week but I played it so much I needed a little break with school and everything going on. So here we go. I am still struggling but I am no longer instantly dying, I'm using cover to it's max. I was just barely able to beat Alaskan deal but it was by a stroke of god that I did so because I went out right as the heist was ending. But I still struggle so much with some heists like Hells Rock, It feels impossible sometimes with all the different spawn points that there are.
@@Jam669 If you keep playing your muscle memory will build up to react properly to most of AI behaviors. The most important part is to keep going instead of giving up, so it's already some progress, good luck :)
bullet tracers from cops can let you know immediately exactly where they are and that cyan smoke is pretty much completely see through also the better assault indicator that just tells you what part of the assault it is is fine, but the one that tells you exactly the amount of time and/or enemies remaining is definitely cheating, and i don't see how it could be considered otherwise. you are knowing exactly when an assault is about to end or go in to fade which can give a considerably higher advantage that simply knowing it is fade without anything telling how long is left
My biggest issue is always map knowledge. I take long breaks and don't enjoy lower difficulties so it's either suffer through a boring deathwish game or learn the hard way in DS haha
Here is my short and easy guide of how to play PD2 in general (also applies to DSOD): 1. Use your surroundings as cover, 2. Abuse the Grace period as much as possible, 3. Kill everyone in sight, 4. Use FAKs. Congratulations, now you can play the game.
Some extras for DSOD: 5. Use only 255+ damage weapons (or 128+ if you use Berserk Aced AND know how to get your health low enough for it to work), 6. Aim to the head, 7. Kill medics, 8. Extra tip: It's much easer to kill enemies when they are stuck in their climbing/descending. animation. Edit: 9. Extra tip: Once Bulldozer's glass mask is broken, you can land a headshot on him from any direction. 10. Use the meta things.
best weapons for begginers on DS are high dps akimbo smgs like the krinkovs or 200+ damage snipers w graze, they help clear spawn points very well and are quite easy to use, and best perk decks for begginers and also overall best perk decks in the game are stoic and hacker, so you can explore the map freely without worrying.
First of all just wanna say I love this video, it's informative and still genuinely fun to watch. Secondly: A question at 5:30 why did you choose to ignore the minigun dozer on the roof? And/or more generally why do I see high level players ignoring bulldozers seemingly very often?
In this particular clip I focused on showcasing how to spawntrap enemies and dozers were only slowing it down. I was playing with my team at the time and that's why there was another dude on the roof with me - his job was to help me with dozers hence I ignored him. Overall, ignoring dozers is usually done because of two things: 1. Laziness - sometimes I just don't feel like dealing with them and since they're not exactly the bigges threat, I just ignore. 2. Some dozers don't need to be killed as they don't really have any impact. For example, minigun dozers are very weak on their own and other than their massive HP, they do not have much to offer. They can only ever be an issue if you're being cornered and rushed by multiple units, so killing that one wasn't my priority. Some dozers that are far away from the objectives can also be ignored because theoretically objecitves is where you should stay and them running around the map is not much of an issue. Ultimately it's probably best to take care of all the dozers that can be taken care of, but once you learn how enemy AI works in this game and have map knowledge, their stopping power is almost entirely gone and whether you slaughter them all or ignore some is not really game-changing. Hope this explains it, thanks for watching : )
Most of the time heavy unit will be the one to shoot you since most of enemy units consist of them. Knowing that you are not going to get shot to death within that small time allows you to jump from cover to cover without major issues.
@@ace6806 In all seriousness though dude, I watched it all and it's a very nice and inclusive guide. Sent it to a friend I'm trying to help who's dipping his feet in DSOD. Glad to have someone like you around, you're doing great work 🤘
@@raydgesilverlight2141 Well, now it's more like "to have had someone like you around" since I no longer payday, but to this day I'm being told this is the best DS guide people have seen, so it's good to know I'm contributing to a better experience for many players around the globe. C:
35:18 My answer is that you rushed so yes that was my habit sometimes regardless of any difficulties but everything in this video such as silencer being op and then waiting also not peeking too much is useful.
ill probably just watch the timestamps on what i feel like i need to know more but man, this guide is super in depth. thanks for making this man im sure this will help a lot of people (also why did you change your name for the like 5th time lol)
I got into my AI heisters bodies (uwu) and stared minigun skulldozers dead in the eye as they tried to blast me point blank. Did not suffer any injury, even survived a double dozer rush with a medic. Completed No Mercy on Deathwish after only 1 single failed attempt. (Forgot to take a second sample and struggled to clear enemy groups, my samples kept breaking.)
2:05, Ive never heard anyone call it a cheat, and while I *could* see how people could think that, I think the things of BAI should just be base game, and if anything, it doesn't help you too much because the other people will figure it out in a second anyway
Cuz' mods exists, and a lot of them makes the game easier, some are just some help, like know the assault state you are, some are cheats, these ones aren't good to use, but it exists Oh, and if sounds like hate, it's not
Would like to offer a personal thanks for this guide, i had some ideas and knowledge down, but i had no idea that the AI had aimbot and you needed to use cover to effectively deaggro their aim, so you can imagine my frustrations when i keep going down basically instantly every time i tried DS, after learning that tip and spending some time getting the muscle memory down for shooting, retreating into cover and reloading etc.. i managed the undercover heist on DSOD without any downs! tis crazy how there's about 6-7 tips which are essential to know and if any of those basics are missing you just basically can't get into DS, tysm for the info, and looking forward to the DSOD climb thanks to you!
Ayyy, awesome to hear! This game does indeed have some crazy stuff going behind it, that you're not likely to discover on your own without watching specific guides ;-;
I can play death wish with quite some ease, most heists are finished on dw without a single down (solo), but death sentence has always remained an issue for me. I rarely play online so the teamwork stuff might not help me a lot but I hope some of these tips can help me have a better time on ds. Def gonna be using silent weapons with every build from now on and I surely have to make a few small edits to my skills, but this video gave me hope that I might finally get those remaining ds achievements even if I play on my own. Great vid! Btw does anyone have any recs for good weapons? I've been using the akimbo VD-12 shotguns since they came out but I'll use anything other than snipers and single shot weapons.
@@mushroomroots9867 it's either the contractor or grom sniper rifle. and yes, in this game every weapon can do fine even on DS, always run whatever you desire on any difficulty
The editing choice of having demonstration clips not take up the entire screen, particularly when off to the side, just limits how useful the actual clips can be, especially on mobile
All the way up till the end, I was watching and going to ask about the difference between being a mostly solo player and team play. Guess I’ll have to look up that guide. I’m on console and struggling to finish a couple of perk decks, but have been routinely doing overkill and expanding into mayhem with some difficulty. I figure once I start getting a few infamy ranks under my belt it will go a little quicker (for exp on perk decks and builds). It’s still a little frustrating because it feels heavily gated. My team AI are absolute beasts, but still leave a little to be desired when I make a mistake.
Well I learned why I can't play green bridge for sh*t now... left side sure is a trap can confirm... cant believe I never considered going to the right side myself. Seriously I have to start turning on my 1 braincell for this game.
Thank you for the guide my friend. I tried a game of DSOD on jewelry store loud with bots to try to apply this knowledge, and I was doing a lot better compared to my usual "tee hee I wonder how long we'll survive" DSOD runs I did with my friends in the past, but I kept running into an issue, and if anyone has any tips for this, I'd love to hear; Not too sure if it matters, but I was running a dodge build with the rogue perk deck. I would notice that the assault state changes to "fade," peek out from my hidey hole in the back and start trying to clear cops from the front of the store and street so that I can make it to the van without insta-dying, but although I wasn't dying or otherwise taking health damage while clearing the area out, by the time I almost clear out the street of most of the enemies, cops would start spawning again, effectively making it impossible for me to get the bags to the van without hoping that I magically don't get hit more than twice. I did also try holding the front of the store, but I ran into the same problem. It might just be that I'm running into a Skill Issue™ - not clicking enough heads in the given time, but maybe I'm doing something wrong strategy-wise? Maybe it's just a byproduct of playing with bots? Maybe it's the nature of the low firepower of a dodge build? idk.
Bots are very powerful, but their killing power isn't quite there, they're meant to be meatshields. What you wanna do when playing with them is the application of targeting knowledge since they heavily increase the spawn rate and it's pretty hard to kill all the cops during fade. Place them in spots where they would trigger line of sight against themselves, kill the cops in your path and focus on optimal route + overall movement more than trying to kill everyone during one fade.
Thank you guys! I abused the bots' health pool and made them take aggro during fade, and after a couple of tries, I got all eight bags to the van!(and then spent another 10-15 minutes on Park Escape attempts lol). Losing line of sight on top of the bots taking aggro made moving the bags a lot safer than it looked.
I cant count but I got all but the first one, which I didn't understand. So thats like 9 or 10 points? Either way, doesn't make me a DSOD god, just proves I watch PD2 yt too much. Anyway love the video, I knew most of it by mucking around in the game but having it confirmed and concise instead of sounding like superstition i came up with is the best way to teach my gf that its that the reason she gets downed isn't cus she doesn't have dlc (neither do i) but bc shes out in the open constantly targeted by probably 700 cops, dies and then says leech is the worst perk deck ever.
I have some questions, if someone knows, feel free to share knowledge. I want to complete every map on DS solo, cause I don't have any friends and not always the pub games are available. So, there situations where the wave never stop. For example, in cook off, even playing solo with AI or Not AI, the captain respawn and I can't complete the mission cause moving to the van is quite difficulty for many reasons, such as enemies spawns are infinity. What should I do then ? Try to kill captain anyways or get build dodge and ignore him ? The same goes to turrets. In the video are mentioned that less enemies in the map mean they are more strong. So playing solo, is best to get AI or not ? With the question above, playing solo with no AI with build dodge is good ? If is not, Wich build/perk are better ? Anark with great damage, hacker with lots of dodge, armor/stoic with sustein ? Disclaimer: This questions were made to play solo DS, I think with other players, DS more easier Thanks since then!
Solo with AI is much much easier compared to solo no ai. The bots have almost infinite hp and tank forever + enemies are slower, so it's in your best interest to enable them. For best perks, you can watch the tier list on my channel, whether you're solo or not their placement doesn't change much.
Here are my mods if you're interested: ruclips.net/video/zavhUFn2YRY/видео.html
I basically reached the character limit of the description, so imma say it here: the test is not meant to be taken 100% seriously. It's hard to know everything, for example despite me having enough knowledge to make this guide, I have 0 clue about this game's breakpoints and anything math related compared to most other players and if I were to take a test related to it, I wouldn't be able to score even half the points for sure. I doubt that I would score max points on someone else's test that would be similar to mine either since everyone has a different playstyle, so if you scored 6 points, you can consider it as successfully passing the challenge.
Since uploaded videos can't be re-edited properly, this comment will be the place to do that (sort of). The video has a lot of things covered, but I'm pretty sure there's stuff others might come up with that we forgot about, if you happen to do that, then reply to this comment. If what you say is correct and I think it's worth-noting, I will edit this comment and add it to the list:
Stuff we forgot about:
1. Armor suppression (importance: above average) - when you trigger LoS and your armor happens to be destroyed, you won't be able to regenerate it as long as cops are aiming at you (that makes bullseye even better). This happens the most with swat turrets, be careful if you see one.
2. Hostage tanking (importance: above average) - ONLY WORKS AS HOST. I did it during the video at 37:45. As long as you're inside a dominated cop (as weird as it may sound...), their shots won't reach you, but they can still punch you, so you're not completely unkillable.
Thanks for this guide, also I think KevKild goes into how to play each map/ what to look out for.
@@goldythefish36 Correct, I mentioned it in the video.
do you just hide or be agressive
What’s the name of the background music you used?
I have a two questions
For assault stages especially fade, how do you abuse it? do you just kill as much as possible? but later on you said not to kill everyone so I am conflicted
also for grace period how do you abuse it? like how do you force to be shot by heavy swat units and not light units? do you just target them?
“Hey guys good job we are doing so well”
The 3 minigun dozers and 2 medic dozers sat on a balcony nobody can reach:
Wick isn't sick anymore, and now has become a card
I've always been a card
Showing your true colours arent you
Well, I still play on Overkill-Mayhem difficulty, but this will help a lot when I start moving up to the harder difficulties.
Good luck :D
Play on any diff that is fun to you.
DW is not so different from mayhem
good luck mate!
After hundreds of hours of gameplay and finally getting my DSOD mask I gotta say - this is the most helpful guide on loud in PD2 I have ever seen. I salute you, sir.
Thanks a ton! :D
Unironically the best DS guide on RUclips. Super well made, easy to understand and very helpful.
Hope you guys can work together again to put out more of this banger content.
Many thanks, there definitely will be more videos with my team :D
I am a returning player after more than 1 year and this has genuinely helped me, i was struggling and didtn know what to do in most heist and this made me get back most of my knowledge, thank you
Many thanks! :D
Pretty good guide man, I think ill definitely be using this to learn how to get good. Btw, for fade, music cues also help because usually there's a point where songs will end and then reloop, usually the music will be leading up until that end/reloop point. I don't know if I explained it too well or not but it's something like that, it's a LOT more noticeable with ingame tracks then custom music
:o
Never paid attention, good to know
@@ace6806 you learn something new every day! :D
@@terminallucidity it extends assaults? I thought multi-player had only changed the assault spawns, but good to know regardless
The best song for fade audio cue is "allesso heist soudtrack" with a distinct and clear bell annoncing the fade right at the good moment
@@arthurchung3747 yeah, unfortunately unless you do modding (which I only do music mods which most of the time are for myself) it's only on the alesso heist
This is really detailed and well made, great job man!
Thanks man, I certainly learned a lot of new stuff about the game with this guide. I just got into this game last week, and first I did all the heists I could on Stealth mode. But now, after learning how stealth works, it has became braindead easy for the (and its getting boring too), so I'm going in loud. But I'm still bad at the game, I'm struggling to complete most heists on Death Wish difficulty. I don't have the balls to try Death Sentence yet, but this guide will definitely help me when I go for it in the future
The best guide I have ever seen!! Keep going dude
yo, just wanted to thank you so much for the line of sight tip, it made Deathwish (I don't play DS) so much easier !
Payday in a nutshell. 0 in-game tutorials about how the game works which makes learning much more difficult than it should be. Glad I could help c:
34:24 Damn, this is the one question I got wrong. I said kill the dozer cause I wasn't sure if there was enough room to dance around and he had already shot so I figured "armor gating". Great video, lots of great tips. I never really knew much about how cops LOS worked and never gave a whole lot of thought to some of the assault waves. I just figured "cops leaving = good".
Almost all points is still great =D
I wanna thank Ace and team for the video. Really helps me a lot when transitioning from DW to DS. Makes DS not as daunting as I thought.
An average importance I might add is reload cancelling using melee. Quite useful when youre rushed while reloading.
Oh true, might add that to my comment later, good point. Anyway, good luck on your DS journey, maybe we meet in-game one day
Ended up with a "Taser Down, 12 points!". I did atleast learn about the green bridge cover and dozer dancing better. Thanks brother
Sick if even veterans learn something new from this C:
Great guide man thank u so much I was waiting for something as detailed as this guide to improve mi DS gameplay
You're welcome :D
i gotta say, you have put an amazing selection of music for this video.
Hey,nice video,even as someone who played ds a lot,its enjoyable.
I agree for the inspire part,since is one of the biggest discussion i do in pd2 related server.
Hope more people see this video,so maybe i dont have to get nervous in pubs.
Thank you je-Arn,and yokai for gameplay
I recognize that Touhou song, Rinfield remix of UN Owen was her.
Good stuff as always, most things I'd definitely agree with. Even stuff I missed or wouldn't talk too much about.
Always loved when you played this song on stream :D
I hope more people see this, so much is incredibly helpful, and I love the goat sim help you gave
:D
i didn't expected that quiz lol, but it was really fun, thank you so much for the guide!
really great informal video, with a lot of tips and pointers that i never knew. definitely will be trying to imply these tips into my gameplay. thank you ace
So much work put into this. Thank you so much.
You're welcome ^^
now i can improve now inside this guide. Ty lad for this epic video
Bro I was trying to remember the song at the end for like the entire time it was playing. Isaac. Great vid btw.
Also I like the name change ;)
Thankies C:
thank you my friend sent this to me after I got home and this will help me no questions asked
"Dad, I want to do Death Sentense"
"Son, you know once you start there's no going back"
Really great video! Also may i know what is the background music you used when you talked about Assault states it sounds really cool!
ruclips.net/video/mRtoptlNj34/видео.html&ab_channel=MDS129Gaming
@@ace6806 Thank you very much!
This video is underrated. One of the more (if not the most) interesting DSOD guides I've ever seen. Keep it up!
Also, can I have list of songs used in the video? Liked them a lot, especially the last one - it's somewhat nostalgic to me
1. Borderlands 3 kitagawa jr boss battle theme
2. Megaraptor ecuador
3. Don't remember the name of this one because it's in japanese :c
4. Streetworkmusic GTA IV theme remix
5. Ratchet & Clank 2 planet yeedil megacorp
6. Also don't remember, but it's from this game: store.steampowered.com/app/1003590/Tetris_Effect_Connected/
7. Megaraptor save room theme RE2
8. Resident evil 5 rust in summer
9. The binding of isaac antibirth mausoleum theme
@@ace6806 6 is mind echos by hydelic kind of psytrancey very cool
This is absolutely fantastic
thanks for the guide, really help me a lot
You're welcome
Great guide I'm still struggling hard with it though! Every time I try to control the crowd I get 2 tapped so there must be something lol, definitely using this to try and get better.
Many thanks! Do share the progress in a week or so c:
@@ace6806 bet
@@ace6806 Ok a bit more than a week but I played it so much I needed a little break with school and everything going on. So here we go. I am still struggling but I am no longer instantly dying, I'm using cover to it's max. I was just barely able to beat Alaskan deal but it was by a stroke of god that I did so because I went out right as the heist was ending. But I still struggle so much with some heists like Hells Rock, It feels impossible sometimes with all the different spawn points that there are.
@@Jam669 If you keep playing your muscle memory will build up to react properly to most of AI behaviors. The most important part is to keep going instead of giving up, so it's already some progress, good luck :)
bullet tracers from cops can let you know immediately exactly where they are and that cyan smoke is pretty much completely see through
also the better assault indicator that just tells you what part of the assault it is is fine, but the one that tells you exactly the amount of time and/or enemies remaining is definitely cheating, and i don't see how it could be considered otherwise. you are knowing exactly when an assault is about to end or go in to fade which can give a considerably higher advantage that simply knowing it is fade without anything telling how long is left
My biggest issue is always map knowledge. I take long breaks and don't enjoy lower difficulties so it's either suffer through a boring deathwish game or learn the hard way in DS haha
21:32 you say as you can see but I turned my brightness all the way up and I still can’t see
Hell yea!
I been at death wish cuz some death sentences one like
Goat sim and hotline is still a bit too hard
This definitely helped improve that
Very glad to hear that
Here is my short and easy guide of how to play PD2 in general (also applies to DSOD):
1. Use your surroundings as cover,
2. Abuse the Grace period as much as possible,
3. Kill everyone in sight,
4. Use FAKs.
Congratulations, now you can play the game.
Some extras for DSOD:
5. Use only 255+ damage weapons
(or 128+ if you use Berserk Aced AND know how to get your health low enough for it to work),
6. Aim to the head,
7. Kill medics,
8. Extra tip: It's much easer to kill enemies when they are stuck in their climbing/descending. animation.
Edit:
9. Extra tip: Once Bulldozer's glass mask is broken, you can land a headshot on him from any direction.
10. Use the meta things.
Since these are very general tips, you can add "play meta" to it
best weapons for begginers on DS are high dps akimbo smgs like the krinkovs or 200+ damage snipers w graze, they help clear spawn points very well and are quite easy to use, and best perk decks for begginers and also overall best perk decks in the game are stoic and hacker, so you can explore the map freely without worrying.
19:57 THE BUFFOON IS FLUMMOXED
Uninstall difficulty is much harder than DS, idk why people tend to forget about this difficulty
I managed to stomp it with ease B)
First of all just wanna say I love this video, it's informative and still genuinely fun to watch. Secondly: A question at 5:30 why did you choose to ignore the minigun dozer on the roof? And/or more generally why do I see high level players ignoring bulldozers seemingly very often?
In this particular clip I focused on showcasing how to spawntrap enemies and dozers were only slowing it down. I was playing with my team at the time and that's why there was another dude on the roof with me - his job was to help me with dozers hence I ignored him. Overall, ignoring dozers is usually done because of two things:
1. Laziness - sometimes I just don't feel like dealing with them and since they're not exactly the bigges threat, I just ignore.
2. Some dozers don't need to be killed as they don't really have any impact. For example, minigun dozers are very weak on their own and other than their massive HP, they do not have much to offer. They can only ever be an issue if you're being cornered and rushed by multiple units, so killing that one wasn't my priority. Some dozers that are far away from the objectives can also be ignored because theoretically objecitves is where you should stay and them running around the map is not much of an issue.
Ultimately it's probably best to take care of all the dozers that can be taken care of, but once you learn how enemy AI works in this game and have map knowledge, their stopping power is almost entirely gone and whether you slaughter them all or ignore some is not really game-changing.
Hope this explains it, thanks for watching : )
@@ace6806 I think I get it now, it’s about the context and how likely they are to be an actual threat? Thanks for the video and the response
May the goddess bless rinfield and his lost albums
if you don't mind my asking what black magic do you use to turn the KSP in the background footage into a laser beam?
I could use some elaboration on “using grace period”, since it’s not the kind of game where you can predict which enemy is going to shoot you first.
Most of the time heavy unit will be the one to shoot you since most of enemy units consist of them. Knowing that you are not going to get shot to death within that small time allows you to jump from cover to cover without major issues.
I didn't listen to half the things you said because I was too busy raving tf out of the psychedelic trance you left playing in the back.
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@@ace6806 In all seriousness though dude, I watched it all and it's a very nice and inclusive guide. Sent it to a friend I'm trying to help who's dipping his feet in DSOD. Glad to have someone like you around, you're doing great work 🤘
@@raydgesilverlight2141 Well, now it's more like "to have had someone like you around" since I no longer payday, but to this day I'm being told this is the best DS guide people have seen, so it's good to know I'm contributing to a better experience for many players around the globe. C:
28:35 Damn, I have over a thousand hours in this game and always thought that was an intentional game mechanic.
Considering it has not been fixed for years, it's very easy to think so xD
35:18 My answer is that you rushed so yes that was my habit sometimes regardless of any difficulties but everything in this video such as silencer being op and then waiting also not peeking too much is useful.
Just starter watching but alredy looks like a masterpiece
Damn, have fun watching, hopefully you watch it fully :D.
You are no longer sick, congrats!
No longer wicked either though...
2:46 soundtrack name?
You're so good you play Payday 2 with a black screen 24/7
:thinkge:
What's the remix of Soviet Connection used in the video?
ill probably just watch the timestamps on what i feel like i need to know more but man, this guide is super in depth. thanks for making this man im sure this will help a lot of people (also why did you change your name for the like 5th time lol)
Bored of the previous nick
2:36 ～
What this BGM!? sounds good
wanna know :)
It's called Payback Roulette
I got into my AI heisters bodies (uwu) and stared minigun skulldozers dead in the eye as they tried to blast me point blank. Did not suffer any injury, even survived a double dozer rush with a medic. Completed No Mercy on Deathwish after only 1 single failed attempt. (Forgot to take a second sample and struggled to clear enemy groups, my samples kept breaking.)
Grats!
2:05, Ive never heard anyone call it a cheat, and while I *could* see how people could think that, I think the things of BAI should just be base game, and if anything, it doesn't help you too much because the other people will figure it out in a second anyway
I've seen a bunch of people call it a cheat, but well, to each their own
"How to make death sentence more easy on VANILLA payday2" is a way better tittle
Why so?
Cuz' mods exists, and a lot of them makes the game easier, some are just some help, like know the assault state you are, some are cheats, these ones aren't good to use, but it exists
Oh, and if sounds like hate, it's not
28:30 song name it sounds dope af, pretty please
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@@ace6806 Thank you so much ^_^
Would like to offer a personal thanks for this guide, i had some ideas and knowledge down, but i had no idea that the AI had aimbot and you needed to use cover to effectively deaggro their aim, so you can imagine my frustrations when i keep going down basically instantly every time i tried DS, after learning that tip and spending some time getting the muscle memory down for shooting, retreating into cover and reloading etc.. i managed the undercover heist on DSOD without any downs! tis crazy how there's about 6-7 tips which are essential to know and if any of those basics are missing you just basically can't get into DS, tysm for the info, and looking forward to the DSOD climb thanks to you!
Ayyy, awesome to hear! This game does indeed have some crazy stuff going behind it, that you're not likely to discover on your own without watching specific guides ;-;
Doesn't one of those sides in green bridge let cops shoot you from underneath?
Are silencers a 100% must bring? I play solo with AI and i think as if the AI draw attention
what build did you use in the dragon heist footage?
quick question, whats the song/soundtrack called you put on this vid, it's f-ing lit
You can also just, run stoic, with ICTV, that shit goes hard
You can, but more knowledge would make the game easier nonetheless
super poradnik jak być lepszym bardzo dziękuje za pomoc
Proszę c:
Thanks !
I can play death wish with quite some ease, most heists are finished on dw without a single down (solo), but death sentence has always remained an issue for me. I rarely play online so the teamwork stuff might not help me a lot but I hope some of these tips can help me have a better time on ds. Def gonna be using silent weapons with every build from now on and I surely have to make a few small edits to my skills, but this video gave me hope that I might finally get those remaining ds achievements even if I play on my own. Great vid!
Btw does anyone have any recs for good weapons? I've been using the akimbo VD-12 shotguns since they came out but I'll use anything other than snipers and single shot weapons.
What rifle are you using for the intro? Would you recommend it for anything below death sentence?
@@mushroomroots9867 it's either the contractor or grom sniper rifle. and yes, in this game every weapon can do fine even on DS, always run whatever you desire on any difficulty
siema stary daloby rade ze bys na pv coaching porobil B)? na dw ciagle gram ale na ds nie daje rady
Średni w tym jestem, ale jak podasz discorda to może coś podpowiem
@@ace6806 asdshadg#3253
Fade: Enemies stop spawning
Sustain: Enemies keep spawning
Control: Enemies retreat and disappear
Pretty much, yes
@@ace6806mr ace what are your guns and build?
Is it dlc free?
The editing choice of having demonstration clips not take up the entire screen, particularly when off to the side, just limits how useful the actual clips can be, especially on mobile
Don't think that's the problem. The problem is that I could have made them a bit brigher instead
can i do the same on xbox or something similar that works fine ?
Cant wait for this guide to mean absolutely nothing after i still get instantly incapped and dodge never works
I heard UN Owen and GTA 4 remixes in there. Source for them?
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@@ace6806 Many thanks. These are really old but still really good.
All the way up till the end, I was watching and going to ask about the difference between being a mostly solo player and team play. Guess I’ll have to look up that guide. I’m on console and struggling to finish a couple of perk decks, but have been routinely doing overkill and expanding into mayhem with some difficulty. I figure once I start getting a few infamy ranks under my belt it will go a little quicker (for exp on perk decks and builds). It’s still a little frustrating because it feels heavily gated. My team AI are absolute beasts, but still leave a little to be desired when I make a mistake.
My AI guide might help you with decent settings, I suppose: ruclips.net/video/nbDagJxUoOQ/видео.html
just a small question, maybe u forgot bc it make no difference, the detection risk, its only useful for crits or they actually change something?
For loud it's pretty much just crits
What are the BGMs in this video?
very gud guide u can becoma a teacher cuz people actually pay attention to u
Many thanks ;)
The video is very good, it hurts that I am from Latin America and I did not understand
Aw :c
unu
when playing brooklyn bank (i noticed it first here, it might be in others) why is the smoke from police a cyan colour?
No idea, I don't remember installing any smoke related mods, but maybe there was one in one of the packs I use if that's a mod to begin with.
Whats is the bullet trail mod and the gore one looks pretty cool
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Here's everything you need
@@ace6806 thx :)
Well I learned why I can't play green bridge for sh*t now... left side sure is a trap can confirm... cant believe I never considered going to the right side myself. Seriously I have to start turning on my 1 braincell for this game.
instructions unclear, picked suit/zerk yakuza build and got grace'd
That was the point of the entire video
is the speed of cops relaying on their numbers a game mechanic or an oversight. weird
Good question, I actually have no idea myself
Thank you for the guide my friend. I tried a game of DSOD on jewelry store loud with bots to try to apply this knowledge, and I was doing a lot better compared to my usual "tee hee I wonder how long we'll survive" DSOD runs I did with my friends in the past, but I kept running into an issue, and if anyone has any tips for this, I'd love to hear;
Not too sure if it matters, but I was running a dodge build with the rogue perk deck.
I would notice that the assault state changes to "fade," peek out from my hidey hole in the back and start trying to clear cops from the front of the store and street so that I can make it to the van without insta-dying, but although I wasn't dying or otherwise taking health damage while clearing the area out, by the time I almost clear out the street of most of the enemies, cops would start spawning again, effectively making it impossible for me to get the bags to the van without hoping that I magically don't get hit more than twice. I did also try holding the front of the store, but I ran into the same problem.
It might just be that I'm running into a Skill Issue™ - not clicking enough heads in the given time, but maybe I'm doing something wrong strategy-wise? Maybe it's just a byproduct of playing with bots? Maybe it's the nature of the low firepower of a dodge build? idk.
Bots are very powerful, but their killing power isn't quite there, they're meant to be meatshields. What you wanna do when playing with them is the application of targeting knowledge since they heavily increase the spawn rate and it's pretty hard to kill all the cops during fade. Place them in spots where they would trigger line of sight against themselves, kill the cops in your path and focus on optimal route + overall movement more than trying to kill everyone during one fade.
Thank you guys! I abused the bots' health pool and made them take aggro during fade, and after a couple of tries, I got all eight bags to the van!(and then spent another 10-15 minutes on Park Escape attempts lol). Losing line of sight on top of the bots taking aggro made moving the bags a lot safer than it looked.
@@forehead_ Pogggg, a bit of practice + knowledge and DS no longer the "impossible" difficulty as many say
Also your contrast is low in settings
3:37 first time seeing folding boi used seriously on ds.
Edit: well that was a waste of time, thank you for guide captain obvious.
Respect!
Do these tips work with payday 2 on console?
They should
oops, copycat was added
ngl i was expecting the video to be 1 min long and to just tell me to play HAcker
:pog: vid, live to see it.
Why is there gameplay in the gameplay??? Focus on one thing not two, I'm getting a headache from two screens on one.
Is this guide for the console version to
Many tips will work for sure, but probably not everything step by step
I cant count but I got all but the first one, which I didn't understand. So thats like 9 or 10 points?
Either way, doesn't make me a DSOD god, just proves I watch PD2 yt too much.
Anyway love the video, I knew most of it by mucking around in the game but having it confirmed and concise instead of sounding like superstition i came up with is the best way to teach my gf that its that the reason she gets downed isn't cus she doesn't have dlc (neither do i) but bc shes out in the open constantly targeted by probably 700 cops, dies and then says leech is the worst perk deck ever.
This made DS into DS but DS
wow so much work you need to get 1m views WTF SO MUCH WORK TY SO MUCH
Thank you, sir! :D
@@ace6806 no ty for your hard work you helped me a LOT SO ty
18:25 cant see sh*t here
I have some questions, if someone knows, feel free to share knowledge.
I want to complete every map on DS solo, cause I don't have any friends and not always the pub games are available.
So, there situations where the wave never stop. For example, in cook off, even playing solo with AI or Not AI, the captain respawn and I can't complete the mission cause moving to the van is quite difficulty for many reasons, such as enemies spawns are infinity. What should I do then ? Try to kill captain anyways or get build dodge and ignore him ? The same goes to turrets.
In the video are mentioned that less enemies in the map mean they are more strong. So playing solo, is best to get AI or not ?
With the question above, playing solo with no AI with build dodge is good ? If is not, Wich build/perk are better ? Anark with great damage, hacker with lots of dodge, armor/stoic with sustein ?
Disclaimer: This questions were made to play solo DS, I think with other players, DS more easier
Thanks since then!
Solo with AI is much much easier compared to solo no ai. The bots have almost infinite hp and tank forever + enemies are slower, so it's in your best interest to enable them.
For best perks, you can watch the tier list on my channel, whether you're solo or not their placement doesn't change much.
Hey this helped i got 9-7 points