A shame Jean Alexander left, just wish they didn't force a replacement like Vera's mother. Legacy characters should have been left as is, like Ena and her gang and Annie Walker. No one could replace the roles.
Hilda, Mrs Sharples and Mrs Walker and Elsie Tanner were fundamental characters who were there for a long time, reflecting the Streets very strong Matriarchal theme. Listen to Tony Warren, he wanted to replicate what he knew. There were some strong male characters, but it was very women driven, and it's what made it so great. The characters that this programme was built on were irreplaceable and once they went, and what they represented disappeared, the programme went massively downhill. It stopped focusing on creating lasting characters to characters who were there to carry sensationalist story lines. Who could have imagined a character created to become a serial killer in the earlier post millennium period? Let alone the 60s, 70s and 80s. It's almost like it's ended up as a slasher version of the programme. And it became a load of crap for it.
Yeah...she's so forward and cocky...at same age I'd have been told to wind my neck in...fast!!!!😄...To the person that made these available .. tx....these are great!👍👏💓
This was the beginning of a new era for Corrie. The 1988-89 revamp was much needed as the show was now having to heavily compete with the more trendy Eastenders.
I remember reading somewhere that this was part of why Jean Alexander left because she knew the show was changing and she knew Hilda would probably not fit in anymore.
@@madwatermelon1316 I'm currently watching 1993 i don't think its too bad yet really. There are some signs of deterioration but its still quite watchable. One thing that stands out about the 90s is an increase in characters who feel like they belong in EastEnders like Jim McDonald is the Corrie version of Grant Mitchell (ex army with violent tendencies) but Jim actually appeared in Corrie before Grant appeared in EE
She is almost the sole reason I'll stop watching at the end of this year's videos. It's bad enough with Kevin 'shouty' Webster, but Vera is simply awful.
@@masterknife8423 yeah, but it’s the writers fault. Everyone has consequences for their actions…it’s part of good writing. The Street can be absolutely brilliant at times with their humor and pathos, etc, but Vera seems to be absolved from all consequences of her actions. Every effing time. Bad character writing. I’m really loving that Ken Barlow is suffering big time for his action..(jealous of Deirdre’s council job, has affair with the leaker, loses his job, his newspaper, his wife, his daughter, his car and then his new girlfriend, boy they threw the book at him. But Nooooooo, nothing for Fat Mouth Vera.
@MsArrowroot ..yeah ...same as you wish for stepchildren...."a wonderful place for you oversees dear"....best part...you come home once a year and that just happens to be my me time away! Perfect!👌
The man who applied for the paper round was Keith Marsh. He also played Renee Roberts uncle . He was better known as Jacko in Love Thy Neighbour, and his catchphrase was " Ah'll have a half !"
The three Walnut Whip mentions between Sally & Curly were blatant product placement advertising. Quite shameful taking the viewers for mugs that way whilst ITV were obviously taking a big wedge from Nestlé. Anyway, rant over.
it was ITV and perfectly acceptable for them to product place, and even take "bribes" from companies to push forward certain items. the bbc was once unable to have any product placement, because it was a public company. you may have noticed a lot of the cars on the show were british made; jaguar, mini, rover. it made no difference, as they were all bankrupt by the end of the 90s.
@@eatmywords You say the BBC could not have product placements. I suggest you watch a few of the Only Fools And Horses episodes. I seem to recall one such episode when The Daily Mirror newspaper got blatantly flashed about in the pub & cafe with the sole intention of making sure the folk at home get an eyeful of it.
@@TheGlassman63 that is true, but it doesn't mean they didn't get into trouble for direct placements. eastenders got into trouble for promoting weetabix in the fowlers house. and who complained? all the other cereal companies.
I have found myself when time has gone by when I look back at not having things I wanted I come to realise it was a blessing in disguise as I would have hated it! If things are for me they won't go by me!
Corrie was suffering throughout 1988, just like it was in 1985 with all the major departures of the previous few years. 1989 would see Corrie enter a new era. Bill Podmore as producer was a bit stale by this point and new blood was needed at the top. However, as I mentioned in a previous comment, Coronation Street is miles better here than it has been over the past 20 years.
Ya know, when I see Ken and Don having a go at Mike, in the pub, it makes me think that Mike doesn't owe those cows he's got working for him, a fucking thing. If I was Mike I would've got shut of the whole bunch of them, long since.
True, but it must have been profitable for Mike because he closed his London factory because it wasn't making him any money. So, money over loud mouthed hags ⚖️
Sometimes its no ones fault and you aren't meant to have things and life steps in and tells you no you can't have it with regard to the websters getting turned down for a mortgage!
This Lisa woman ain't no friend of Jenny's. She's about to steal Patrice away from Jenny and warn him of Jenny. That's not what friends do for each other. Jenny was never interested in Lisa's so called flirting of a husband. She's in love with Patrice the new French man. And now Lisa is about to ruin Jenny's chance with Patrice. And when Jenny finds out what Lisa said to Patrice about her. She will be more than angry. She'll be upset. Lisa is going to warn Patrice about Jenny as Lisa's way of getting back at Jenny because of that thing regarding Lisa's flirting husband who actually kissed Jenny first not the other way around. Lisa is twisted in the head. She's not happy because she lost her husband and blaming Jenny for it by warning Patrice of Jenny etc. Jenny hasn't done anything to Lisa or Lisa's husband. Lisa should get her facts right first before blaming others for her marriage falling apart which is not Jenny's fault. It's all Lisa's husband's fault. Because Lisa's husband is a womanizer and always will be.
By 'eck, why not just rent property off of Hilda for few years, until bad debt settled and your credit rating improved? Not sure if Kevin is self employed or PAYE? In 90s, I was self employed but could not get mortgage as didn't have (at the time) 3 years worth of accounts. Yet, I switched to PAYE and got accepted for mortgage with 1 months wages. A few years later the firm I worked for went bust. No one knows the future. If, you shout at 'em at mortgage interview Kevin, that will clinch it lad. Wouldn't mind fondling Sally's walnut whips.
A shame Jean Alexander left, just wish they didn't force a replacement like Vera's mother. Legacy characters should have been left as is, like Ena and her gang and Annie Walker. No one could replace the roles.
Yes. They shouldn't even try to pass the role of an icon character on to anyone. It doesn't work.
Hilda, Mrs Sharples and Mrs Walker and Elsie Tanner were fundamental characters who were there for a long time, reflecting the Streets very strong Matriarchal theme. Listen to Tony Warren, he wanted to replicate what he knew. There were some strong male characters, but it was very women driven, and it's what made it so great. The characters that this programme was built on were irreplaceable and once they went, and what they represented disappeared, the programme went massively downhill.
It stopped focusing on creating lasting characters to characters who were there to carry sensationalist story lines. Who could have imagined a character created to become a serial killer in the earlier post millennium period? Let alone the 60s, 70s and 80s. It's almost like it's ended up as a slasher version of the programme. And it became a load of crap for it.
Can't stand Vera's mother her teeth give me nightmares
No way that Patrice would be interested in Jenny!
Or any human for that matter…
Agreed 100% although she looks like different person in her google images
Yeah...she's so forward and cocky...at same age I'd have been told to wind my neck in...fast!!!!😄...To the person that made these available ..
tx....these are great!👍👏💓
@@perniesweemmer51 Same here. She is obnoxious, can't stand her.
Oh aye, she's punching well above her weight, with Patrice.
Thank you thank you THANK YOU for posting these!
This was the beginning of a new era for Corrie. The 1988-89 revamp was much needed as the show was now having to heavily compete with the more trendy Eastenders.
I remember reading somewhere that this was part of why Jean Alexander left because she knew the show was changing and she knew Hilda would probably not fit in anymore.
Oh sad
@@ryanwilliams1800 She made the right decision I think. The quality of Corrie deteriorated rapidly in the 90s.
@@madwatermelon1316 I'm currently watching 1993 i don't think its too bad yet really. There are some signs of deterioration but its still quite watchable. One thing that stands out about the 90s is an increase in characters who feel like they belong in EastEnders like Jim McDonald is the Corrie version of Grant Mitchell (ex army with violent tendencies) but Jim actually appeared in Corrie before Grant appeared in EE
@@ryanwilliams1800 Early 90s aren’t too bad. It really takes the plunge after Bet Gilroy leaves.
Perfect couple..... Kevin and Vera, Mr and Mrs Shouty! 😂
In the real world…Vera would suffer the consequences of her big fat mouth. But she goes on and on and on and nothing ever happens to her.
She is almost the sole reason I'll stop watching at the end of this year's videos. It's bad enough with Kevin 'shouty' Webster, but Vera is simply awful.
Why she's a fan favourite I'll never know. Oh well each to their own
@@masterknife8423 yeah, but it’s the writers fault. Everyone has consequences for their actions…it’s part of good writing. The Street can be absolutely brilliant at times with their humor and pathos, etc, but Vera seems to be absolved from all consequences of her actions. Every effing time. Bad character writing. I’m really loving that Ken Barlow is suffering big time for his action..(jealous of Deirdre’s council job, has affair with the leaker, loses his job, his newspaper, his wife, his daughter, his car and then his new girlfriend, boy they threw the book at him. But Nooooooo, nothing for Fat Mouth Vera.
Vera is a loudmouth fishwife, common as muck.
The look on Alf’s face regarding the stolen tin of salmon… Looked like he’d been rejected by John West.
Can't wait to see this Patrice drop Jenny like a bad habit
I so agree , when Jenny doesn’t get her way her voice turns into a shrill shriek , so irritating ,and whiny.
I wish he'd whisked her off to France and we would have never had to see her again
@MsArrowroot ..yeah ...same as you wish for stepchildren...."a wonderful place for you oversees dear"....best part...you come home once a year and that just happens to be my me time away! Perfect!👌
Good for that girl telling Patrice about Jenny.
I was watching this at night lol Vera gave me a headache
Hahaha, yep, as does her mother.
Bloomin’ ‘eck-Bet sounded just like Annie Walker! “Really, Kenneth! I do not expect this sort of behaviour from you.”
The man who applied for the paper round was Keith Marsh. He also played Renee Roberts uncle . He was better known as Jacko in Love Thy Neighbour, and his catchphrase was " Ah'll have a half !"
It's impossible to feel sorry for Jenny in any way, even to this day.
Bet “I’m sick of this, Jack-sort yer’ wife out.”
Jack “Oh, it’s alright you talkin’. You wanna try it?”
Rita needs to take her hoover to the repair shop, the bearings sound knackered.
through the years fans say how good vera and jack was, not for me I can't stand that loud mouth vera and now her mother? so happy I can forward lol
But that laugh 😹 thou she was so funny 😆 when laughing with jack 😂😂
These two fighting for that Jenny 🤣
She has beautiful hair.
Jenny sitting in the pub I wonder if she knew 30yrs later she'd be the landlady
Sally is being very free with Alf’s Walnut Whips! You still got a walnut then!
Vera to shirley when she mentions a holiday. "I dont know why Your sun tan seems to be lasting". Wow imagine anyone saying that in todays episodes!!
Thank you!
Vera is just plain nasty. Serious anger issues there
Nobody is as bad as Don
Ty so much professional gun luv it from nz
The three Walnut Whip mentions between Sally & Curly were blatant product placement advertising. Quite shameful taking the viewers for mugs that way whilst ITV were obviously taking a big wedge from Nestlé. Anyway, rant over.
it was ITV and perfectly acceptable for them to product place, and even take "bribes" from companies to push forward certain items. the bbc was once unable to have any product placement, because it was a public company. you may have noticed a lot of the cars on the show were british made; jaguar, mini, rover. it made no difference, as they were all bankrupt by the end of the 90s.
@@eatmywords You say the BBC could not have product placements. I suggest you watch a few of the Only Fools And Horses episodes. I seem to recall one such episode when The Daily Mirror newspaper got blatantly flashed about in the pub & cafe with the sole intention of making sure the folk at home get an eyeful of it.
@@TheGlassman63 that is true, but it doesn't mean they didn't get into trouble for direct placements. eastenders got into trouble for promoting weetabix in the fowlers house. and who complained? all the other cereal companies.
Thank you 😁
I know he must be older, but the actor of Patrice reminds me a bit of Ben Barnes ( who played Caspian on the Narnia films.)
Vera’s mother stealing that’s just wrong!
I have found myself when time has gone by when I look back at not having things I wanted I come to realise it was a blessing in disguise as I would have hated it!
If things are for me they won't go by me!
1988 post-Hilda was a bit of a bland year.
Corrie was suffering throughout 1988, just like it was in 1985 with all the major departures of the previous few years. 1989 would see Corrie enter a new era. Bill Podmore as producer was a bit stale by this point and new blood was needed at the top. However, as I mentioned in a previous comment, Coronation Street is miles better here than it has been over the past 20 years.
Legend! Any chance of 1979? Many thanks!
Ya know, when I see Ken and Don having a go at Mike, in the pub, it makes me think that Mike doesn't owe those cows he's got working for him, a fucking thing.
If I was Mike I would've got shut of the whole bunch of them, long since.
True, but it must have been profitable for Mike because he closed his London factory because it wasn't making him any money. So, money over loud mouthed hags ⚖️
mr roberts spoke the truth about debt
Sometimes its no ones fault and you aren't meant to have things and life steps in and tells you no you can't have it with regard to the websters getting turned down for a mortgage!
Don Brennan is as wooden as his future leg
Ivy, get in ere 🤣🤣🤣
How annoying is Don Brennan 😬🤣
I cant stand Kevin shouting I'm fast forwarding him his voice just irritates me
I do the same for Mavis and Derek: they are like mosquitoes on LSD
Same here.
Same he can't talk he roars
Is Sally really that thick to think she can borrow money & not pay it back?
His such a miserable character
Don thinks he is Del Boy 😂😂
He's embarrassing.
Mike Baldwin - Ruler!
Don Vs Mike the beginning 2:04:16
Kevin doing a spin 😅😅😅😅
Thing is getting married is a big step to take!
Just give the old fella the job and let him prove to you he can do it!
Vera is so funny.
She is horrible, loudmouthed and common as muck.
She's an exasperating and depressing character. Are you the kind of person who enjoys watching shows like Jeremy Kyle?
Patrice is about as French as fish n chips! What he sees in that back street loudmouth is beyond me!
So was the one that Suzeeeee called from that boutique she and Gail worked in.
Jenny is wooden Patrice is no more French than I am
Franck Dubosc (born 7th November 1963 in Le-Petit Quevilly, France) Actor who played Patrice lol - doesn't take much effort to look it up
He looks better than the english fellas on the show, of course the actor is french 😂😂😂
I cannot agree more Norma. I echo your sentiments entirely … 100% .
You made a dangerous enemy , Mike…initials D.B. Fast forward about ten years…
Sally gets on my nerves want want want ugg
She doesn’t improve with age…
What's decibels?
It's how ya measure ya sex appeal?!
No more Hilda!! That's me done. Bye......
JACKIE CORKHILL FROM BROOKSIDE
Vera is just a bully
I can't stand Curly. He makes my skin crawl.
He makes my hair curl.
Don Brennan with the flat cap 🤮
As much of a tool Baldwin was, what an horrendous character Don was, reactionary prat, he was ignorance personified
50:13 A bit of casual racism from Vera...and this was 1988 😱🙄
How can it be racist when its true, we do have a permanent tan,it isn't that deep, oh plz!😂😂😂😂
Listen up, you lot!
Sally have good talk to Norman good talk Mavis doing the newspaper
Terry out Martin take over the goodies 😅😅😅😅
The meal meals Norman doing funny work to Sally they so closer odd😮
This Lisa woman ain't no friend of Jenny's. She's about to steal Patrice away from Jenny and warn him of Jenny. That's not what friends do for each other. Jenny was never interested in Lisa's so called flirting of a husband. She's in love with Patrice the new French man. And now Lisa is about to ruin Jenny's chance with Patrice. And when Jenny finds out what Lisa said to Patrice about her. She will be more than angry. She'll be upset. Lisa is going to warn Patrice about Jenny as Lisa's way of getting back at Jenny because of that thing regarding Lisa's flirting husband who actually kissed Jenny first not the other way around. Lisa is twisted in the head. She's not happy because she lost her husband and blaming Jenny for it by warning Patrice of Jenny etc. Jenny hasn't done anything to Lisa or Lisa's husband. Lisa should get her facts right first before blaming others for her marriage falling apart which is not Jenny's fault. It's all Lisa's husband's fault. Because Lisa's husband is a womanizer and always will be.
You may have missed the scene where Jenny was playing tonsil tennis with Gary at the party at No. 13. She is guilty of cheating on Patrice
By 'eck, why not just rent property off of Hilda for few years, until bad debt settled and your credit rating improved? Not sure if Kevin is self employed or PAYE? In 90s, I was self employed but could not get mortgage as didn't have (at the time) 3 years worth of accounts. Yet, I switched to PAYE and got accepted for mortgage with 1 months wages. A few years later the firm I worked for went bust. No one knows the future. If, you shout at 'em at mortgage interview Kevin, that will clinch it lad. Wouldn't mind fondling Sally's walnut whips.
16:00 That's not Pat Rice! He's just some ponce putting on a French accent.