Wow. Helped me break the stay home doldrum and inertia. Thank you Tim. Your writings and video restored my faltering faith years ago. Am so thankful for the authenticity and insights. Loves from Singapore.
I laughed so hard when Tim said I wouldn’t trust a human heart n where it wants to go with Kathy making that face! 🤣 May God always bless the ones who love HIM.
I appreciated your talk about being an Evergreen and the importance of meditating on God's word. However I would clarify your definition of meditation since there are many types of meditation, both Christian and Eastern. The mediation you and your wife describe is one type of emptying yourself of conscious thought by repeating a mantra. But there are other forms of mediation like Mindfulness which is bringing awareness or concentrating on something like your breathing, or sounds in the room or sensations you may be experiencing. The goal of this type of mediating is practicing keeping your awareness on the thing you are concentrating on. Now what happens is that your mind doesn't stop working and before you know it you are thinking or giving your attention to something other than what you paying attention to, like your breathe. The practice is when you realize that you are distracted you just bring yourself back to what you are giving your attention to without being critical or self-judging for getting distracted. When we mediate on God's word we are in fact giving out attention to a verse or passage and allowing ourselves to stay on that verse. There is also a meditation called "Centering Prayer", which is the type of prayer where we sit before God in silence ( "Be Still And Know That I am God Ps.46:10) In this mediation you use a sacred word when you find you have gotten distracted in your mind in order to bring you back to this practice of sitting before God. This type of meditation opens us up to Jesus's presence and works not just for our rational mind, but our body as well. But the goal is to be before Jesus. I hope this gives some clarity to mediation.
Pastor thank you so much I have been so blessed and encouraged by your messages in this virus. I know that many others have been blessed and encouraged as well. God bless you for bringing us hope and light in a dark time.
This is a great revelation, very timely indeed. It points us so cleary away from misconception and misunderstanding. Thank you, and God bless you both individually and as a team!
Thank you for explaining the experience of what Christian meditation should be & when it should be practiced; day & night. Certainly I've read Plain 1 before but praise the Lord our God for His word is living & there is always something new to learn.
Спасибо большое за ваше служение. Мы слушаем вас в России все время. Хотели бы попросить вас. Возможно чтоб, все записи Тима Келлера, были записаны на проигрыватели в котором можно включить субтитры. Это ооочень помогает. Мы не очень хорошо знаем английский язык, но субтитры очень помогают понимать суть. Спасибо большое.
I remember a long time ago Tim spoke of being at a camp I believe and the speaker setting out the question of something like "if God is the God of the universe how can we expect Him to just be our assistant or co-pilot? "and then directed them to go and figure out what that means to them. Where can I read or hear that gain or more on that topic? I am turning 50 this summer and I don't think, since my salvation 22 years ago, I have ever been "all in" for many reasons including being in an abusive marriage for 20 years where to survive and juggle the messes he made and protect my children and keep the MARRIAGE together, pleasing a tyrant elevated him to a god position. We left him this past winter and I desperately want Jesus back on the thrown of my life my my children's and heart and mind and will. I know all my fears and worries and life are out of proportion because the Lordship is as well. Thank you.
I really really want to learn more about the difference between the mindfulness that's so widely practiced and encouraged in psychological therapies and Biblical meditation. I've always felt uncertain whether it's ok to practice mindfulness breathing.
Like anything, mindfulness can be misused. However, it doesn’t automatically contradict the Christian faith. We just need to make sure we approach it in a wise, biblical way.
It's wonderful to empty your mind of your own thoughts and fill it with the word of God and the presence of Jesus. Just turn your mind over to him and love him with all your mind.
Psalms 143:5 I remember the days of old; I meditate on all thy works; I muse on the work of thy hands. Key word - muse. "be absorbed in thought." Add an A to it and it becomes the opposite. Amuse. Current definition indicates "entertain, find something funny." It's interesting to see the etymology of this word. It used to mean deceive, delude, cause to stare at stupidly. late 15th century (in the sense ‘delude, deceive’): from Old French amuser ‘entertain, deceive’, from a- (expressing causal effect) + muser ‘stare stupidly’. Current senses date from the mid 17th century. What are we musing on? What are we amused by? Television, social media, phones, sports events, window shopping?
Christian meditation is reasonable, rational and by no means illogical . Eastern meditation is based on the presumption that Jesus was completely wrong about everything he ever taught about man’s alienation from God and the need for an atonement. If you spend eternity clearing your mind, you will always be right back to where you began: a sinner, alienated from God. But by then you’ll know that quite clearly , according to Jesus, you will definitely know very consciously.
Eastern meditation, Christian meditation. I always notice how Tim Keller talks about “the East” but you really can’t bunch the whole continent like that.
Thank you for clarifying the difference btwn christian and eastern meditation. Can you expand on the how to do it... "fixing your mind on a particular truth, then its speaking to your own heart about it until God comes near... or taking the truths of the bible and pressing it down into the very base of your heart until it catches fire...". Are you talking about memorizing scripture? Reading scripture? Then what? Ask yourself questions about it? Just not sure what to do with this idea of meditation. Is meditating done only alone or with a small group?
Jules, you can download his teachings on podcast through Castbox and he has hundreds of sermons that are very very detailed and will help you understand everything biblical and everything about our human nature.... There are many different series to choose from...Tim's teachings are amazing and you get free therapy too! Did I mention very DETAILED???
But this was written prior to jesus - how were old testament people supposed to understand this? Where they just to be dumbfounded by it? I'm not saying it can't have application to jesus but this doesn't seem to be what the original psalm writer would have had in mind while writing this particularly because he would be saying to enjoy something that didn't exist at that time...
It is so unreal, we as followers of Jesus, get to walk with the almighty GOD in the cool of the day. But in Hebrew that word cool is wind or spirit. Get out in the winds and be filled and swept up in His Breathe winds!
If meditation is meditating on the whole Bible, did Joshua and David also meditate on the Bible? Joshua and David did not meditate on the writings of the prophets. God gave Moses, the servant of God, the Law, which is the truth.
I am a deep admirer of Tim Keller and his work but he's wrong when he defines eastern meditation as the practice of emptying the mind of all thought. There are many varieties of meditation. Some involve emptying one's mind, others involve connecting with God in ways quite like Dr Keller describes near the end of the video. If christians don't want non-christians to misrepresent their beliefs, they should be careful to not do the same. It was the work of the great Buddhist teacher Thich Nhat Hahn that actually brought me closer to Christ. Wishing you well, dear reader. :)
This is a little bit odd to me. Born again people of course delight in the law of the Lord. It’s almost like brother Tim is speaking to unregenerate people - - weird.
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I am so enjoying these meditations/devotionals Pastor Keller. Please keep them coming.
Amen.
Thank you for these messages. They have been helpful in keeping my anxiety down. Prayer, God’s word, and music is amazing help also.
Wow. Helped me break the stay home doldrum and inertia. Thank you Tim. Your writings and video restored my faltering faith years ago. Am so thankful for the authenticity and insights. Loves from Singapore.
I live in London, England. I stumbled on this mediating topics and I have found them truly a blessing. Thank you very much.
I laughed so hard when Tim said I wouldn’t trust a human heart n where it wants to go with Kathy making that face! 🤣 May God always bless the ones who love HIM.
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Such a great couple, neither talking down to the other or patronising the other
What a delightful meditation! 😉
lol
Loving these library chats, thank you Timothy Keller and Kathy Keller
Thank you Tim for sharing the undiluted word
Thank you both for these life giving truths! Encouraged from Puerto Rico!
Thank you Tim. Trust you’re knowing the comfort and love of the Lord at this time.
Thank you for your ministry,i listen to the all series .i will listen again and again
be evergreen even in "bad" days, thanks for the message, Tim and Kathy!
Wonderfully delineated.
Thanks for these devotional. Enjoyed it from Indonesia.
Very helpful explanation of meditation. Thank you.
I appreciated your talk about being an Evergreen and the importance of meditating on God's word. However I would clarify your definition of meditation since there are many types of meditation, both Christian and Eastern. The mediation you and your wife describe is one type of emptying yourself of conscious thought by repeating a mantra. But there are other forms of mediation like Mindfulness which is bringing awareness or concentrating on something like your breathing, or sounds in the room or sensations you may be experiencing. The goal of this type of mediating is practicing keeping your awareness on the thing you are concentrating on. Now what happens is that your mind doesn't stop working and before you know it you are thinking or giving your attention to something other than what you paying attention to, like your breathe. The practice is when you realize that you are distracted you just bring yourself back to what you are giving your attention to without being critical or self-judging for getting distracted.
When we mediate on God's word we are in fact giving out attention to a verse or passage and allowing ourselves to stay on that verse. There is also a meditation called "Centering Prayer", which is the type of prayer where we sit before God in silence ( "Be Still And Know That I am God Ps.46:10) In this mediation you use a sacred word when you find you have gotten distracted in your mind in order to bring you back to this practice of sitting before God. This type of meditation opens us up to Jesus's presence and works not just for our rational mind, but our body as well. But the goal is to be before Jesus. I hope this gives some clarity to mediation.
Thank you so much for this comment was just about to say the same thing!
Thank you for sharing....listening from Barbados.....truely...inspiring
Thank you for pointing out the difference of meditation in Christianity. It was clear and simple. God bless you
Pastor thank you so much I have been so blessed and encouraged by your messages in this virus. I know that many others have been blessed and encouraged as well. God bless you for bringing us hope and light in a dark time.
This short clarification has shed light on a very important topic. Thanks for your elation!
This is a great revelation, very timely indeed. It points us so cleary away from misconception and misunderstanding. Thank you, and God bless you both individually and as a team!
Thank you for these wonderful meditations, Pastor Tim.
Thanks so much ❤
Thanks for clearing christian meditation from eastern
I would be evergreen thru the law of the lord day and night.
Thank you for this beautiful encouragement!
What a delightful message. May Jesus continue to bless you two, thank you for this series.
🙋Very Helpful. Thank you.
Thank you, pastor Timothy!!!!
Enjoyed this wonderful meditation from London. God bless you abundantly!
Very helpful. Thank you!
Thank you Tim. I have been looking forward to these videos!
Thank you for explaining the experience of what Christian meditation should be & when it should be practiced; day & night. Certainly I've read Plain 1 before but praise the Lord our God for His word is living & there is always something new to learn.
So simple yet so true, advocating what should be a natural spiritual discipline for every Christian. Thanks guys!
I am an ELCA Lutheran from South Carolina. Today (May 16, Easter 7), this was our Psalm of the Day.
Thank you Dr. Keller. I am very thankful for these messages and your insight. Thanks to Kathy too!
Спасибо большое за ваше служение. Мы слушаем вас в России все время. Хотели бы попросить вас. Возможно чтоб, все записи Тима Келлера, были записаны на проигрыватели в котором можно включить субтитры. Это ооочень помогает. Мы не очень хорошо знаем английский язык, но субтитры очень помогают понимать суть. Спасибо большое.
So helpful! I enjoy both segments of these meditations. Thank you both :)
Thank you for the first part which was for my heart, and for the second which was for my mind :)
I too live in England and have found these talks very inspiring
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Very helpful
I remember a long time ago Tim spoke of being at a camp I believe and the speaker setting out the question of something like "if God is the God of the universe how can we expect Him to just be our assistant or co-pilot? "and then directed them to go and figure out what that means to them. Where can I read or hear that gain or more on that topic? I am turning 50 this summer and I don't think, since my salvation 22 years ago, I have ever been "all in" for many reasons including being in an abusive marriage for 20 years where to survive and juggle the messes he made and protect my children and keep the MARRIAGE together, pleasing a tyrant elevated him to a god position. We left him this past winter and I desperately want Jesus back on the thrown of my life my my children's and heart and mind and will. I know all my fears and worries and life are out of proportion because the Lordship is as well. Thank you.
I hope you found the message you were looking for.
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I really really want to learn more about the difference between the mindfulness that's so widely practiced and encouraged in psychological therapies and Biblical meditation. I've always felt uncertain whether it's ok to practice mindfulness breathing.
Like anything, mindfulness can be misused. However, it doesn’t automatically contradict the Christian faith. We just need to make sure we approach it in a wise, biblical way.
Dr Henry Cloud explains it extensively, please google him. I hope it helps.
Thank you Pastor TK! Really appreciate these meditations.
It's wonderful to empty your mind of your own thoughts and fill it with the word of God and the presence of Jesus. Just turn your mind over to him and love him with all your mind.
Amazing insight.
This is so inspiring and impacting
I need this. 💞💕
I did TM in the 70's with disastrous effect - became detached and indifferent towards others and when was born again needed deliverance.
Thank God!
Psalms 143:5 I remember the days of old; I meditate on all thy works; I muse on the work of thy hands.
Key word - muse. "be absorbed in thought."
Add an A to it and it becomes the opposite. Amuse. Current definition indicates "entertain, find something funny." It's interesting to see the etymology of this word. It used to mean deceive, delude, cause to stare at stupidly.
late 15th century (in the sense ‘delude, deceive’): from Old French amuser ‘entertain, deceive’, from a- (expressing causal effect) + muser ‘stare stupidly’. Current senses date from the mid 17th century.
What are we musing on?
What are we amused by?
Television, social media, phones, sports events, window shopping?
Wonderful meditation.
awesome
Matthew 5-5:9 Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. Such a beautiful concept to be "evergreen"
Christian meditation is reasonable, rational and by no means illogical . Eastern meditation is based on the presumption that Jesus was completely wrong about everything he ever taught about man’s alienation from God and the need for an atonement.
If you spend eternity clearing your mind, you will always be right back to where you began: a sinner, alienated from God. But by then you’ll know that quite clearly , according to Jesus, you will definitely know very consciously.
Eastern meditation, Christian meditation. I always notice how Tim Keller talks about “the East” but you really can’t bunch the whole continent like that.
Yup
Thank you for clarifying the difference btwn christian and eastern meditation. Can you expand on the how to do it... "fixing your mind on a particular truth, then its speaking to your own heart about it until God comes near... or taking the truths of the bible and pressing it down into the very base of your heart until it catches fire...". Are you talking about memorizing scripture? Reading scripture? Then what? Ask yourself questions about it? Just not sure what to do with this idea of meditation. Is meditating done only alone or with a small group?
Was the Old Testament written back in David’s day to meditate on? Wouldn’t he be mediating on the law, the 10 Commandments???
Can you show me English subtitles?
Very good. You could make them slightly longer maybe?
Jules, you can download his teachings on podcast through Castbox and he has hundreds of sermons that are very very detailed and will help you understand everything biblical and everything about our human nature.... There are many different series to choose from...Tim's teachings are amazing and you get free therapy too! Did I mention very DETAILED???
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But this was written prior to jesus - how were old testament people supposed to understand this? Where they just to be dumbfounded by it? I'm not saying it can't have application to jesus but this doesn't seem to be what the original psalm writer would have had in mind while writing this particularly because he would be saying to enjoy something that didn't exist at that time...
Be evergreen but not like the ship
It is so unreal, we as followers of Jesus, get to walk with the almighty GOD in the cool of the day. But in Hebrew that word cool is wind or spirit. Get out in the winds and be filled and swept up in His Breathe winds!
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Fun fact: im watching as the evergreen is stuck in the suez cannal
If meditation is meditating on the whole Bible, did Joshua and David also meditate on the Bible? Joshua and David did not meditate on the writings of the prophets. God gave Moses, the servant of God, the Law, which is the truth.
I am a deep admirer of Tim Keller and his work but he's wrong when he defines eastern meditation as the practice of emptying the mind of all thought. There are many varieties of meditation. Some involve emptying one's mind, others involve connecting with God in ways quite like Dr Keller describes near the end of the video. If christians don't want non-christians to misrepresent their beliefs, they should be careful to not do the same. It was the work of the great Buddhist teacher Thich Nhat Hahn that actually brought me closer to Christ. Wishing you well, dear reader. :)
This is a little bit odd to me. Born again people of course delight in the law of the Lord. It’s almost like brother Tim is speaking to unregenerate people - - weird.