Hi, I have great admiration for you doing what you have done riding all over America, as a lady of mature years, you are clearly a lady of great character and spirit! Your video reviews are straight to the point, honest and believable. Clearly not sponsored promotions of the product. I too own a GT pro (2021 in deep Red) which would be the same model as yours. I have spent a fair amount of money and time adding crash bars, full expedition alluminium luggage, a custom seat, Puig screen, sat nav etc. etc. I have however, been entertaining thoughts of chopping it in for a 24 model because of all the hype around supposed improvements. Now, having just watched two of your videos I am convinced I should stick with what I own (and love) Thank you so much! I now feel totally convinced that the £5,500 cost to change would NOT be justified, especially as some 'improvements' on the '24 model actually appear to be retrograde steps, or purely production cost savings. I thank you for the guidance and wish you every happiness for Christmas and success in 2025! keep up the good work. Best regards, Ivor M. (in the UK)
I stumbled across your channel because I am in the market for a mid-size ADV bike and the Tiger 900 (Rally Pro) is at the top of my list. I love your long-term owner videos!
The tank protector is very easily damaged. I've done only 1600km and it's starting to look bad which is crazy. Saw another person on Facebook also asking what to do about it due to also starting to look nasty. I like the idea, it's great. All tanks should have this out of the box, but rubber should be better than what they used. For handlebars, officially they only moved RP handlebars 1,5 ar 2 cm backwards compared to GT Pro. I was able to feel this difference that Rally Pro requires way less leaning forward and no pain in my back compared to GT. For moving windscreen, you need to push from yourself first, only after that lift it. Maybe it's too far to reach, but you barely push it forward and that is not enough to move it out of position lock. Most of your pushing is up which won't do anything until position is unlocked by a forward push. Anyway, even doing correctly it's not that easy. 2024 engine is reworked. More power, better fuel efficiency (by almost 10%!). Most importantly valve check now 18k miles instead of 12k. Other changes: 1. Different fog lights, rated a bit more in W and doesn't require repositioning when adding tank protector crash bar. 2. Seat in low position now leaves big gap (unlike in 2023 model). If there's no gap, it's not mounted correctly (tongue need to go under, otherwise it will break because seat is holding on it). Meanwhile the seat in high position can jump out of place. The tongue hole is too big, there's plenty of movement available for seat. (again, not just my opinion, plenty people in Facebook reporting the same issues) 3. Quick shifter is updated and taken from 1200. It should be also be better protected for a common issue of rain/water. There's an extra rubber. 4. There are some changes for hot air venting, but I don't think it does much (they added a couple of holes on side plastics).
Actually the windscreen is easily adjustable while riding. Simply push forward then up or down. If you just grab the bar and try to move up or down it won't move.
I’m new to your channel and I’m riding again after 40yrs. I’ve been riding for one yr now and looking to upgrade my bike. Thank you for the videos & info on this tiger. 😊
When you said the handlebar is 'further', do you mean further reach out to the front (move closer to windscreen) OR lesser reach out (closer to rider)...?
My point is that it is not designed to be manhandled that way. I also lack the upper body weight and strength to do this to lift it, only to push it down. Other bikes have easier adjustment methods like electric or twist knobs.
I've been looking for weeks for a vidrio exactly like this and All of the videos that the algorithm puts the top of my list are people acting de especifican sheet Thanks for your comparison
Is this new? For the boxers it’s always been 12K miles for the valve check. My ‘15 GSA is the newest BMW I have. I was thinking but don’t know for sure the new K bikes would tell you when to service the valves. 6000 more miles between valve checks on the Tiger is a big deal because the bike has to be stripped just to get to the valves. When you get to 36,000 miles you have saved a lot of money by skipping a valve service.
To move winscreen whilst riding grab the top of the screen , you have more leverage. I have the 2023 GT Pro and rode the 2024 one. The 2024 versison has better brakes, a little more power and slightly less vibration. The new TFT screen is not an improvement, it is not as easy to navigate. I would not change my 2023 for the small advantages.
Thank you very much! Helps me narrow down my purchase. Looking at the 850 also would love your opinion. Do you ever do group rides where we can ride w/you? Would be great.
I’ve had my 850 sport for 2.5 years now and love it, but would advise having quick shifter, heated grips and a centre stand fitted. The rear suspension is fine for one up riding plus luggage. Ignore the advised settings by Triumph it needs 10 turns on the preload for solo riding minimum (l’m 14.5stone with riding gear) 15 with luggage or it drags its arse! If you do lots of 2 up touring the rear suspension at max preload is arse down again. That in my opinion is its only weak point. The motor’s a gem and easily keeps up with larger capacity exotica.
There's only downsides to the key fob IMO. I had one on my Multistrada. It makes for more complication and expense. They typically only give you 1 key as well. A friend had to send their KTM home in a truck, due to a programming glitch with the key fab system too. It's difficult to beat a conventional key.
nice to see a channel without BS introduction and titles - you get right into it. I have a chance to buy a 23 for $5000 less than a 24 model. The 24 is a much nicer looking bike especially in red but that a lot of $$. The changes are not vital and to your point about seating position I am more of a sport rider than a touring rider.
The screen is easily adjusted on the move. You need to push the bar away to release the tension not just yank it. You didn't mention the extra power, better fuel consumption or much longer service intervals. Not a very accurate review I'm afraid.
I'm sorry you found the review lacking. I was actually pushing against the spring as you describe. I believe it's a difference in strength. My point is that there are other ways that are available on the market to adjust the screen. This was an overview, not detailed specs, just things I noticed while riding.
Hi,
I have great admiration for you doing what you have done riding all over America, as a lady of mature years, you are clearly a lady of great character and spirit!
Your video reviews are straight to the point, honest and believable. Clearly not sponsored promotions of the product.
I too own a GT pro (2021 in deep Red) which would be the same model as yours. I have spent a fair amount of money and time adding crash bars, full expedition alluminium luggage, a custom seat, Puig screen, sat nav etc. etc.
I have however, been entertaining thoughts of chopping it in for a 24 model because of all the hype around supposed improvements.
Now, having just watched two of your videos I am convinced I should stick with what I own (and love) Thank you so much!
I now feel totally convinced that the £5,500 cost to change would NOT be justified, especially as some 'improvements' on the '24 model actually appear to be retrograde steps, or purely production cost savings. I thank you for the guidance and wish you every happiness for Christmas and success in 2025! keep up the good work.
Best regards, Ivor M. (in the UK)
Thank you so much for your kind words! I wish you many more happy miles.
Best 23 vs 24 comparison video. Thank you.
Glad I could help!
I stumbled across your channel because I am in the market for a mid-size ADV bike and the Tiger 900 (Rally Pro) is at the top of my list. I love your long-term owner videos!
Thank you! So glad you found it.
I hold the top of the windscreen to change hight , put some weight on end of the bars lot beter
Yes, I've been told this a lot. Doesn't work for me, but thanks for the suggestion.
The tank protector is very easily damaged. I've done only 1600km and it's starting to look bad which is crazy. Saw another person on Facebook also asking what to do about it due to also starting to look nasty. I like the idea, it's great. All tanks should have this out of the box, but rubber should be better than what they used.
For handlebars, officially they only moved RP handlebars 1,5 ar 2 cm backwards compared to GT Pro. I was able to feel this difference that Rally Pro requires way less leaning forward and no pain in my back compared to GT.
For moving windscreen, you need to push from yourself first, only after that lift it. Maybe it's too far to reach, but you barely push it forward and that is not enough to move it out of position lock. Most of your pushing is up which won't do anything until position is unlocked by a forward push. Anyway, even doing correctly it's not that easy.
2024 engine is reworked. More power, better fuel efficiency (by almost 10%!). Most importantly valve check now 18k miles instead of 12k.
Other changes:
1. Different fog lights, rated a bit more in W and doesn't require repositioning when adding tank protector crash bar.
2. Seat in low position now leaves big gap (unlike in 2023 model). If there's no gap, it's not mounted correctly (tongue need to go under, otherwise it will break because seat is holding on it). Meanwhile the seat in high position can jump out of place. The tongue hole is too big, there's plenty of movement available for seat. (again, not just my opinion, plenty people in Facebook reporting the same issues)
3. Quick shifter is updated and taken from 1200. It should be also be better protected for a common issue of rain/water. There's an extra rubber.
4. There are some changes for hot air venting, but I don't think it does much (they added a couple of holes on side plastics).
Thank you for the additional level of detail in the changes!
Actually the windscreen is easily adjustable while riding. Simply push forward then up or down. If you just grab the bar and try to move up or down it won't move.
I do exactly that and i don't have enough strength/ weight behind it to move it.
I’m new to your channel and I’m riding again after 40yrs.
I’ve been riding for one yr now and looking to upgrade my bike.
Thank you for the videos & info on this tiger. 😊
Welcome back! Glad you found the channel.
When you said the handlebar is 'further', do you mean further reach out to the front (move closer to windscreen) OR lesser reach out (closer to rider)...?
Closer to the rider, so higher and further from the windscreen. It creates a much less aggressive and more upright riding position.
@Czeching_Out_America thanks!
Just grab the windscreen by the very top edge, push forward then up or down. More leverage and easier to move.
My point is that it is not designed to be manhandled that way. I also lack the upper body weight and strength to do this to lift it, only to push it down. Other bikes have easier adjustment methods like electric or twist knobs.
@@Czeching_Out_America 1200 same problem, 2 hands and nothing happens,1 drop of oil....🤗
@martinbruins6396 I'll have to give the oil a try. I think it's how strong the springs are though.
I've been looking for weeks for a vidrio exactly like this and All of the videos that the algorithm puts the top of my list are people acting de especifican sheet Thanks for your comparison
Glad I could help. I figure anyone could read a spec sheet. It's the ride impression that you need information about.
The biggest change for 24 is the 18k mile valve check interval verses 12K miles.
Bmw is yearly , independent of km
Is this new? For the boxers it’s always been 12K miles for the valve check. My ‘15 GSA is the newest BMW I have. I was thinking but don’t know for sure the new K bikes would tell you when to service the valves. 6000 more miles between valve checks on the Tiger is a big deal because the bike has to be stripped just to get to the valves. When you get to 36,000 miles you have saved a lot of money by skipping a valve service.
You are correct, that changed. Thank you for the added information.
That little bike's got some giddyUP!
Indeed it does!
They increased the power and torque in '24. Can you feel it?
Not really.
I have a 23 1200 GT Explorer. I wonder what changes are on the 24 model?
Good question! I'll put that on my list for future videos.
To move winscreen whilst riding grab the top of the screen , you have more leverage. I have the 2023 GT Pro and rode the 2024 one. The 2024 versison has better brakes, a little more power and slightly less vibration. The new TFT screen is not an improvement, it is not as easy to navigate. I would not change my 2023 for the small advantages.
I don't have the upper body strength to maneuver the windscreen back up, but thanks for the suggestion.
Thank you very much! Helps me narrow down my purchase. Looking at the 850 also would love your opinion. Do you ever do group rides where we can ride w/you? Would be great.
Glad to hear it helped!
The group ride is a great idea. I'll have to look into how to coordinate one.
I’ve had my 850 sport for 2.5 years now and love it, but would advise having quick shifter, heated grips and a centre stand fitted. The rear suspension is fine for one up riding plus luggage. Ignore the advised settings by Triumph it needs 10 turns on the preload for solo riding minimum (l’m 14.5stone with riding gear) 15 with luggage or it drags its arse! If you do lots of 2 up touring the rear suspension at max preload is arse down again. That in my opinion is its only weak point. The motor’s a gem and easily keeps up with larger capacity exotica.
@@MichaelWilliams-jc2ui than you so much for adding this info about the sport!
Data on TFT should be accessable with one button to many separate menu items
Yes, just the Home button and then toggle through the menus.
Menu dusplay should have tpms, engine and coolant temps in ine display, with normal data.
I agree.
I wonder why the 900 doesn't use a smart key fob like my 1200?
Perhaps a suggestion for future model updates? Triumph really seems to listen to us, I'd send that to them as a comment.
There's only downsides to the key fob IMO. I had one on my Multistrada. It makes for more complication and expense. They typically only give you 1 key as well. A friend had to send their KTM home in a truck, due to a programming glitch with the key fab system too. It's difficult to beat a conventional key.
@@brucerossonthetube thank you for the scoop!
What min. rpm to use the quickshifter ?
I've found that around 4k will do. I don't know the factory recommendation, that just my experience.
nice to see a channel without BS introduction and titles - you get right into it. I have a chance to buy a 23 for $5000 less than a 24 model. The 24 is a much nicer looking bike especially in red but that a lot of $$. The changes are not vital and to your point about seating position I am more of a sport rider than a touring rider.
Glad the info was helpful!
The screen is easily adjusted on the move. You need to push the bar away to release the tension not just yank it. You didn't mention the extra power, better fuel consumption or much longer service intervals. Not a very accurate review I'm afraid.
I'm sorry you found the review lacking.
I was actually pushing against the spring as you describe. I believe it's a difference in strength. My point is that there are other ways that are available on the market to adjust the screen.
This was an overview, not detailed specs, just things I noticed while riding.