You can definitely see the years of cs go in their crosshair placement and aim; their shots are really satisfying to watch, even if they're not playing perfectly
@@marcovazquez-ou2pv These characters move NOTHING like in CS The amount of movement and different things they do make shooting in this game far harder to hit sometimes. His shots were VERY fuckin smooth on heroes like Juno/genji. Guy was very good.
HIII. im the ashe in the video. Emongg u gave great advice, i completely just forgot you can toss dynamite over shields lol. your advice is gonna be really helpful, i cant wait to implement it into my future games. I appreciate the compliments, ive always been super insecure about my aim. i will absolutely work on my positioning and get better on not isolating myself into a 1v1 when my team is around, thats something i for SURE have to work on. tysm for making this into a video, i was shaking when i saw it on my youtube reccommended. keep up the good work !!!
One thing I would like to add is that the Genji was giving this Ashe a lot of grief when they went to pressure them up close and personal. More often than not the Genji won the close quarters engagements, so maybe figure out how to deal with those situations?
Genji is so easy to fight as Ashe … People just don’t know that they need to throw their dynamite on the ground when he’s deflecting & shoot it so he’s actively burning. Genji either 1) disengages or 2) dies due to the fact that there’s nothing for him to deflect
@grave.5254 ash best weapon against genji upclose is her coach gun. Doubles the distance when he deflects so you fight from a safer spot. If you think it's ez to 1v1 a genji upclose you haven't climb high enough.
If a genji deflects before getting close, there's your window. If he dashes at you after, he's pretty much lost it if your aim is competent. Early scoped shot tags will keep genji at bay, and coach gun up if he looks to dash you for another scoped shot. Dynamite as you need but preferably while he's at a distance. If genji has a pocket, you will most likely fold but at that point kite so the other team is facing a 3v4.
@@Los0wa7 I’m only in gold so I guess lol … But apex got me comfortable with hipfiring my shots close range so I don’t think it’s much of an issue for me when it comes to Ashe vs genji duels
The guy has the mechanics. What is missing is the champion knowledge that will come with time. Counters and match-ups knowledge on characters. But that's top 500 aim right there if he has the patience to learn the game. One thing to point out... no flying supports will stay alive for long... he does more then a lot of dps's in gold.
Ultimate economy is a very real thing and I realize is so much more than other roles on my team since I'm a support, anytime I kiri ult TONS of ults fly after it, an ult like soldiers would make sense but then there's a mauga ult and a reaper ult and nano and then it just becomes over ulted lol
Yo that shot here 22:52 Hanzo got the kill but Ashe got the headshot as well but Hanzo's arrow was a frame closer even though Ashe hit him at the same time. Thats crazy
Yeah their aim will get them all the way to high diamond. After that hopefully they’ll understand their ability usage and ult economy better. It’s a little annoying some people just have the aim.
@@Bad3abdul Same. I’ve gotten this far on game sense alone but my aim leaves a lot to be desired. I see these kids that just have the aim and they rank up even tho they play like bots and it irks me a bit lol
Diamond at best. Aim is still a bit inconsistent to get too far out of metal ranks. The aim is purely out of mechanical skill born from CS but if they become able to read movement, then they will shoot past diamond.
The positioning seems good but I feel like this player may start to struggle as they climb and more and more people start to become adept at dive comps. It just doesn’t seem like the preemptive fear of the dive is there yet.
it's so funny xd i'm also a CS player and i mainly play CS but when i grind Overwatch i also play Ashe because she functions the best with old CS habbits tbh xd
I could be wrong, but I thought earth shatter is just a straight-up conical attack which is why it can hit airborne and high ground enemies (to a certain degree).
No but it definitely takes you pretty far. This Ashe should be bronce but their aim got him to gold and will probably take him all the way to diamond. Their cooldown usage and ult exonomy awareness is literally bronce level.
I feel the aim and positioning is not so bad. Should identify corners better n not rely too much on heal pocket. And definitely should not try to always 1v1 the genji. Mostly they have a disengage issue
I like this Videos. I'm old (>40), my aim and reaction is bullshit but I made it into gold with all 3 roles by understanding the game. I see also in my games a lot of players with (from my perspective) incrediable mechanics but they have no clue what is the priority in what situation. That makes OW an intersting game for me. If you want to get good you need more like aim.
I have some additional context to add to this video as I was the tank on the other team in streamer mode. This is also not what I call myself in the game. I am a bit confused on the skin because I don't use one so maybe match replay bug? So I am at this point in the video a B-2/B-1 tank. So one of two things are happening here. They were matched in a bronze lobby or I was matched with a gold lobby. Though I do remember these teams. I remember IMDOG saying some odd things along with one or two other people in voice. I also remember chasing this person and backing away not wanting to leave my team exposed to their tank. When I pinned the Sombra I was more than confused asking out loud.... "Wait where did the Sombra elim come from? Did I accidentally pen them in invis?" I was giggling the entire match just having fun. Let me be clear with you Winter, I felt more pressure from you as the Rein than your tank and team combined. You were the main person I was worried about with the pressure I felt from you. I'm just a bronze player, but I actually think you did a really good job. Other than feeling the pressure from you I remember being rather disappointed by your tank. I wasn't really feeling much pressure at all from them. My take is you lost from a tank diff. I even typed it out in team chat that I wasn't feeling much from your tank so I felt comfortable not switching at all. Even when they went Ram. I think you had a really unlucky match in terms of your team and it isn't worth thinking too much about it. Again I think you did a good job in applying pressure because you may have noticed it, but I prioritized blocking as many of your shots as possible. At times I literally ignored your tank because you were putting that much pressure on us vs your tank. Keep it up and don't let these games get you down. Just keep chugging. I would suggest also doubling in support when you can. I do that to give me more perspective as tank. Might help you with dps and seeing people maybe make the mistakes you see yourself making and correcting those naturally. Let me be clear that without you it would not have been a draw. Good job once again.
The fact is I was the tank. I was placed with plats before. Matchmaking is stupid broken right now. Look at how much the Rein focuses the Ash. Like I said they were most threatening. It doesn't matter if it was wide or not because I shouldn't have been placed with a plat lobby right? Didn't stop it from happening and I wish I could provide the code. I only went Winston at the end because I was trying to get to the point and do something. That was me in that game. I'm also more willing to say that Winter was matched to a bronze lobby and not the other way around.
I'm going to say this as well. I'm sitting here literally giving you compliments and you can't even take them because you either have an ego or you think I am clout chasing. RUclips is the only platform I use. I don't care about being known. I noticed I was in the match and thought I would give you my side of things and give you compliments. Though I guess I can't do that can I? It's so sad that people are so obsessed with being popular that you can't even give someone a compliment or two and tell them that they were doing good. I would rather be invisible than be known. I don't care for attention and I would never say it's me if it isn't. I'm too old for that crap and it isn't worth my time.
wait i played with this guy before like a year ago ;-; my guy cooked my team and they said he was smurfing cant believe he still in gold. Even i climb out of it 🤣
Aim imo is THE most important aspect of DPS you need to learn, positioning is obviously necessary but that hardly requires practice to get down. But DPS once you get to plat/diamond there is a threshold where you NEED to have good aim otherwise you will not rank up, even if you main non-aim heavy heroes you need to have hitscan in your pool for the higher ranks.
This is one of the reasons i stopped playing any team game competitively solo que. I'm always so much better then my team but somehow I'm always the one getting blamed for the loss. Smite, rocket League, apex, overwatch 1, gears of war 3,5. It's like my team would be happier if i ran into bad plays and died with them. I've been blamed in smite while having 20ks no deaths because i destroyed a Phoenix instead of dying on fire giant because we didn't have the health to do it. In this game it's clearly not the cassies fault.. yet here comes ol toxic teammate
would be cool ifyou turned the volume of the replay down. love watching these videos while playing qp and the sounds get confusing :p/ just a thought. most of us are here for your comentary anyway, not the actual replay
Is this the start of one of them buddy-cop films where Ashe and Baptiste start as rivals and are forced to be partners?
You can definitely see the years of cs go in their crosshair placement and aim; their shots are really satisfying to watch, even if they're not playing perfectly
I disagree, there aim looked too sluggish and there tracking was terrible.
@@marcovazquez-ou2pv These characters move NOTHING like in CS
The amount of movement and different things they do make shooting in this game far harder to hit sometimes. His shots were VERY fuckin smooth on heroes like Juno/genji.
Guy was very good.
@@marcovazquez-ou2pv pov im baiting
Yes. Looked good.
@@marcovazquez-ou2pvtheir
HIII. im the ashe in the video. Emongg u gave great advice, i completely just forgot you can toss dynamite over shields lol.
your advice is gonna be really helpful, i cant wait to implement it into my future games. I appreciate the compliments, ive always been super insecure about my aim. i will absolutely work on my positioning and get better on not isolating myself into a 1v1 when my team is around, thats something i for SURE have to work on.
tysm for making this into a video, i was shaking when i saw it on my youtube reccommended.
keep up the good work !!!
@@wintersfps You have masters aim already, I swear; You'll be a fantastic player with these tips being implemented! Was really nice to watch
Your aim is absolutely nuts, it'll carry you really far. You've gotta be at Diamond-level
Get off tiktok foo, you got games to win.
wish i had your aim lol
Your aim is incredible man, wish you all the luck for your ranked climb
16:10 “you’re not a girl, you’re corn” LOL
One thing I would like to add is that the Genji was giving this Ashe a lot of grief when they went to pressure them up close and personal. More often than not the Genji won the close quarters engagements, so maybe figure out how to deal with those situations?
Genji is so easy to fight as Ashe … People just don’t know that they need to throw their dynamite on the ground when he’s deflecting & shoot it so he’s actively burning. Genji either 1) disengages or 2) dies due to the fact that there’s nothing for him to deflect
If he stays close enough it would also hit you so it really depends on how the genji approaches @@grave.5254
@grave.5254 ash best weapon against genji upclose is her coach gun. Doubles the distance when he deflects so you fight from a safer spot. If you think it's ez to 1v1 a genji upclose you haven't climb high enough.
If a genji deflects before getting close, there's your window. If he dashes at you after, he's pretty much lost it if your aim is competent. Early scoped shot tags will keep genji at bay, and coach gun up if he looks to dash you for another scoped shot. Dynamite as you need but preferably while he's at a distance.
If genji has a pocket, you will most likely fold but at that point kite so the other team is facing a 3v4.
@@Los0wa7 I’m only in gold so I guess lol … But apex got me comfortable with hipfiring my shots close range so I don’t think it’s much of an issue for me when it comes to Ashe vs genji duels
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What did u eat? 🤔
We may never know @@samsami2407
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The guy has the mechanics. What is missing is the champion knowledge that will come with time. Counters and match-ups knowledge on characters. But that's top 500 aim right there if he has the patience to learn the game. One thing to point out... no flying supports will stay alive for long... he does more then a lot of dps's in gold.
Ultimate economy is a very real thing and I realize is so much more than other roles on my team since I'm a support, anytime I kiri ult TONS of ults fly after it, an ult like soldiers would make sense but then there's a mauga ult and a reaper ult and nano and then it just becomes over ulted lol
Yo that shot here 22:52 Hanzo got the kill but Ashe got the headshot as well but Hanzo's arrow was a frame closer even though Ashe hit him at the same time. Thats crazy
They wont be gold long
@@brab1242no they’ll climb a lot cus the aim is definitely there it’s just understanding maps and character physics honestly
Yeah their aim will get them all the way to high diamond. After that hopefully they’ll understand their ability usage and ult economy better. It’s a little annoying some people just have the aim.
@@SocialExperiment232 i'm opposite lol knowledge without the aim
@@Bad3abdul Same. I’ve gotten this far on game sense alone but my aim leaves a lot to be desired. I see these kids that just have the aim and they rank up even tho they play like bots and it irks me a bit lol
@@SocialExperiment232 true lol
Great mechanical skill alone will make you rank up, maybe not gm but definitely higher ranks.
Diamond at best. Aim is still a bit inconsistent to get too far out of metal ranks. The aim is purely out of mechanical skill born from CS but if they become able to read movement, then they will shoot past diamond.
The positioning seems good but I feel like this player may start to struggle as they climb and more and more people start to become adept at dive comps. It just doesn’t seem like the preemptive fear of the dive is there yet.
3:57 dynamite over the shield brodie
Man, the soldier is feeding so much.
11:03 why do I find it entertaining that the mauga is in the family guy deadpose
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omg 😭😭😭
it's so funny xd
i'm also a CS player and i mainly play CS but when i grind Overwatch i also play Ashe because she functions the best with old CS habbits tbh xd
That dudes shots were insane
One of the few spectating videos where they carry when they say that they carry
At least they were being honest about their mistakes ill give them that
I could be wrong, but I thought earth shatter is just a straight-up conical attack which is why it can hit airborne and high ground enemies (to a certain degree).
it's not really a cone but it DOES have a vertical hit box and can go up and over certain objects so it absolutely feels like a cone sometimes 😭
Bob allowed them to contest and got out all them ults, def worth
thats why he said it worked out. Doesn't mean it will always be good
If he continues listening to your advice I think he could easily get himself to plat/diamond
This person has really good mechanics. When they get the game sense, they're definitely going to climb.
25:51 dude i thought my video was in 1.25 speed, you talk fast ASF emongg
High rank aim just needs to learn the game
I have been hit by rein slam while mid air as doom........
they’d be nasty support player i see the vision
ain’t know way the bap called ashe trash when they clutched the attack round
I see the aim, good lord
After playing some more and knowing overwatch better I’m sure they will rank up to plat/diamond
Uuuuu, he can climb for sure if he follow emongg advice, the aim is good and the positioning ain't bad either, good luck and may u reach higher rank
this dude DEFINITELY has potential to climb out of gold
Rein shatter is an ult, Doom’s slam is an ability, different potency? But as doom’s ult should travel same distance for consistency. 😂
Great example of how good aim isn't everything in Overwatch.
No but it definitely takes you pretty far. This Ashe should be bronce but their aim got him to gold and will probably take him all the way to diamond. Their cooldown usage and ult exonomy awareness is literally bronce level.
@@SocialExperiment232 disagree, definitely gold even without the aim. btw its bronze*
@@SocialExperiment232if her positioning is shit then no you’ll be hard stuck doesn’t matter how god like your aim is
I feel the aim and positioning is not so bad. Should identify corners better n not rely too much on heal pocket. And definitely should not try to always 1v1 the genji. Mostly they have a disengage issue
@@SocialExperiment232 they wont make it to diamond, not with this movenement. They'd get deleted every fight
So does venture ult have the same effect as rein ult where it goes up walls?
no
No
I like this Videos. I'm old (>40), my aim and reaction is bullshit but I made it into gold with all 3 roles by understanding the game. I see also in my games a lot of players with (from my perspective) incrediable mechanics but they have no clue what is the priority in what situation. That makes OW an intersting game for me. If you want to get good you need more like aim.
I have some additional context to add to this video as I was the tank on the other team in streamer mode. This is also not what I call myself in the game. I am a bit confused on the skin because I don't use one so maybe match replay bug? So I am at this point in the video a B-2/B-1 tank. So one of two things are happening here. They were matched in a bronze lobby or I was matched with a gold lobby. Though I do remember these teams.
I remember IMDOG saying some odd things along with one or two other people in voice. I also remember chasing this person and backing away not wanting to leave my team exposed to their tank. When I pinned the Sombra I was more than confused asking out loud.... "Wait where did the Sombra elim come from? Did I accidentally pen them in invis?" I was giggling the entire match just having fun.
Let me be clear with you Winter, I felt more pressure from you as the Rein than your tank and team combined. You were the main person I was worried about with the pressure I felt from you. I'm just a bronze player, but I actually think you did a really good job. Other than feeling the pressure from you I remember being rather disappointed by your tank. I wasn't really feeling much pressure at all from them. My take is you lost from a tank diff. I even typed it out in team chat that I wasn't feeling much from your tank so I felt comfortable not switching at all. Even when they went Ram.
I think you had a really unlucky match in terms of your team and it isn't worth thinking too much about it. Again I think you did a good job in applying pressure because you may have noticed it, but I prioritized blocking as many of your shots as possible. At times I literally ignored your tank because you were putting that much pressure on us vs your tank. Keep it up and don't let these games get you down. Just keep chugging. I would suggest also doubling in support when you can. I do that to give me more perspective as tank. Might help you with dps and seeing people maybe make the mistakes you see yourself making and correcting those naturally.
Let me be clear that without you it would not have been a draw. Good job once again.
you were not in the game. it was not widematch, the match range was gold 4-2.
I was soloqueue, there isnt any way you couldve been in the game
The fact is I was the tank. I was placed with plats before. Matchmaking is stupid broken right now. Look at how much the Rein focuses the Ash. Like I said they were most threatening. It doesn't matter if it was wide or not because I shouldn't have been placed with a plat lobby right? Didn't stop it from happening and I wish I could provide the code. I only went Winston at the end because I was trying to get to the point and do something. That was me in that game. I'm also more willing to say that Winter was matched to a bronze lobby and not the other way around.
I'm going to say this as well. I'm sitting here literally giving you compliments and you can't even take them because you either have an ego or you think I am clout chasing. RUclips is the only platform I use. I don't care about being known. I noticed I was in the match and thought I would give you my side of things and give you compliments. Though I guess I can't do that can I?
It's so sad that people are so obsessed with being popular that you can't even give someone a compliment or two and tell them that they were doing good. I would rather be invisible than be known. I don't care for attention and I would never say it's me if it isn't. I'm too old for that crap and it isn't worth my time.
@@wolfhound146 why do u lie, u wanna be included SO bad
this ashe is defintely able to get to diamond i can see it.
Bro reaches diamond in 6 months if he keeps grinding
im plat atm, aiming for diamond/masters tho. will be a crazy where are they now video
I reached diamond on supp with kiriko and ana within a few weeks, the difficulty ramp up in diamond was crazy though so i stopped playing.
9:35 It's just a theory. A GAME THEORY! Thanks for watching...
Their aim is wayyyy above gold
Earliest I've ever been lets enjoy the content Guys!
every time you say ''about'' i think to myself: is he canadian??
wait i played with this guy before like a year ago ;-; my guy cooked my team and they said he was smurfing cant believe he still in gold. Even i climb out of it 🤣
This guy is easily diamond, just needs to play more
Aim imo is THE most important aspect of DPS you need to learn, positioning is obviously necessary but that hardly requires practice to get down.
But DPS once you get to plat/diamond there is a threshold where you NEED to have good aim otherwise you will not rank up, even if you main non-aim heavy heroes you need to have hitscan in your pool for the higher ranks.
Two toxic people trying to sink their own ship.
What is his discord
the player or emonggs
@@wintersfps emonggs discord channel but I found it
Yeah I hardly saw bap healing you, mainly Juno. Shots gonna get you in diamond quick.
This is gddaim for gold
The small improvements to make are gonna send this ash player out of gold, very quickly. Probably in plat by now at least
Easy plat player once they learn how to be cocky aggressive but still position in a spot they can disengage safely they will be diamond
This is one of the reasons i stopped playing any team game competitively solo que. I'm always so much better then my team but somehow I'm always the one getting blamed for the loss. Smite, rocket League, apex, overwatch 1, gears of war 3,5. It's like my team would be happier if i ran into bad plays and died with them. I've been blamed in smite while having 20ks no deaths because i destroyed a Phoenix instead of dying on fire giant because we didn't have the health to do it.
In this game it's clearly not the cassies fault.. yet here comes ol toxic teammate
Imo easily diamond player. Can prob climb to gm imo
Their aim will get them to high diamond then it’s up to them to handle their abilities and ultimates better.
TikTok 💀, how can you muster watching that specimens replay? 🤢
first!?
no one cares
no
I have way better aim get me in one of these videos
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would be cool ifyou turned the volume of the replay down. love watching these videos while playing qp and the sounds get confusing :p/ just a thought. most of us are here for your comentary anyway, not the actual replay