@@juremeljo2686I haven’t yet, but in the comments someone stated they talked to a dev and they allegedly confirmed this. I’d like to get into contact with one to confirm this as well.
Lol, all the locations are indeed easily recognizable. I'm even a little disappointed, but the updated look with this Mirror's Edge-like color palette NICEEE. Besides, Seoul-along with Monaco-is my favorite map.
I'm loving the re-design its super clean and everything seems very condensed as well as fast paced (because of the jump pads connecting each point of interest). I think this will bring the game back to its roots with chaotic fun gameplay. It has the potential to be one of the best maps in the game!
I actually think the only section of the new map they've revealed is the blue and white area but the rest is in fact Soel just with new textures for the new season to give the maps more of an arena gameshow feel. People are just mistaking it to be new since the teaser is so short.
@@HazedNConfused there's also a blink and you'll miss it shot of what appears to be Vegas only now it has this sleek themed sponsor look to it so maybe all the old maps are getting this new texture treatment.
In the 3rd picture, the building behind/in the distance of what is believed to be the new apartments does not have the same color palette as the building seen in the 2nd picture, which is believed to be the new hospital. It does have the same color palette as the first picture however, making the layout different than what would be in Seoul.
Hey I wanted to come back and say you made a really good point. That had me pondering enough to make an entirely new video. I wanted to say thank you for pointing it out!
If you really think about it Seoul is a very hard map for new players because of the layout. Without construction there has to be calculated movement to make it in time for a cashout after a wipe. If a rework of the map is done, I'm sure many players would be happy, but of course, as someone with hundreds of hours, something brand new would be fantastic. S4 looks to add so much as well, so I'm sure all will be please either way. Note: with Kyoto getting a new variant, this would be hype as just a Seoul variant. And maybe a new map altogether 🎉🎉🎉
If it does turn out to be based off Seoul, I addition of jump pads rather than bridges will be easier for new players to push objectives without full knowledge of how to use defense gadgets. Also the gameplay will go a hell of a lot faster with the condensed distance of the Big Hospital!
Imagine there was a fast hyperjump in a channel INSIDE the construction block, so you could jump from app's alley to datacenter! But not backwards. Other way would be from lil med to mall. That would be pretty cool. No back & forth movement, but these cuts would be possible.
I'm going to assume that either this is a map recolor for this season, or it will work like the World Tour - at high ranks the maps change depending on which sponsor you choose.
@@АнтониоКуринноио because it’s their game and they can re use designs that work. They are going back to their roots this season they already said it. Also on their blog post they literally posted an image saying “NEW MAP”
what do you mean when you say it’s a digital variance map “like syshorizon”? is syshorizon based on another map? or do you just mean it’s more digital than the more real life inspired maps
When Syshorizon was developed its infrastructure was based on a real life location. This location was never stated by the map developers. However I’m implying that the same treatment has been implemented to Fortune Stadium as a condensed fast paced Seoul thats main method of traversal are jump pads rather than bridges. Sorry for not being clear!
@@Masface1 it’s based off on the map Seoul not Skyway stadium. *Edit* I see what you’re saying. That could be very much it as well. We shall see on the reveal. 👍
I noticed your Finals settings are higher dpi and lower in game sensitivity. I’m new to PC(and M&K) gaming. What makes you go with these settings are opposed to the inverse(lower dpi higher in game sensitivity)?
The reason I play on higher dpi is because it allows for a faster response time when using 4k or 8k hertz. However in game I lower the sense to match what I play on when using 800 dpi. So for instance if I play on 30 sens in game with 800dpi, it would translate to 15 sense with 1600 dpi. Although the difference in response time is very small, I find that the higher dpi / hertz helps compensate with latency caused by lag. Hope this helps!
Seoul was always like long range biased yet still very cool map imo. In this "version" they kinda fixed its only possible downside of being large and too open. I think this map gonna be more comfortable to play than seoul for most players. It seems like nice work was done here.
I don't get why you would call it a "digital variance of Seul", all the maps are digital representations, the contestants are always competing in digital arenas... 🤨🤷♂️
Great question The Finals is a game show that is based off a simulated reality this map would be taking the specific simulated reality back to its digital roots. Kind of like how Horizon’s infrastructure was based off a real location, but was left in an incomplete digital state. Also this is best way I could word it without people jumping to the “It’s a re-skin” conclusion because it definitely is not.
@@HazedNConfused thanks for the explanation, I really like this game and I hope more people get into it, so keep on making content and let's get people hyped 🤘
Same man, but this is going to be one of the best. They optimized and improved on an already amazing map. It will be one of the best in the game. Trust!
I think this is only a redesign for another game mode. Completly new map is not revealed i think. This was only a teaser. Better wait for trailer itself.
It’s all theory. The reason why I said digital, is because it’s a virtual game show that switched real structures into the sponsors preferred structure in the digital world. Both can be true. Very excited for the map and the lore behind it!
I believe that is from the sponsor representing that particular point of interest. From what it looks like each area will have its own sponsor making it unique to that company.
Yep and I’m fine with re-used assets just as long as it’s done well. Also I wouldn’t mind a smaller version of Seoul, having to run back to a cashbox is a nightmare after a wipe. lol
It is not my favorite practice either. However Fortune Stadium seems like a condensed fast paced Seoul that's main method of traversal are jump pads rather than bridges. This will hopefully bring the Finals back to its roots with hectic gameplay on another level and has the potential to be one of the best maps in the game!
tl;dr: let them cook ffs Hear me out: besides the obvious benefit to developers that comes from reusing assets, I want to believe that that Embark are using their Battlefield experience and remixing enjoyable gameplay areas rather than making something completely new just for the sake of it. Battlefield 3 & 4 had many unique looking DLC maps that were incredibly unfun to play on. Skyway rules. Seoul rules. Why not save time by mashing together the best of both of them? It isn't possible to make a brand new map with completely new assets during the length of a season. Embark is around 300 developers. Call of Duty is more like 3000. Fortnite has 4000+ developers working on it. Either we forgive Embark for reusing assets in order to push out content faster, or we have to get comfortable with getting one map a year, instead of 2-3.
If it is based of Seoul, the improvements made just from the info presented in the teaser will make this map possibly the best in the game. That’s just my opinion of course.
@@kylerclarke2689 I trust these devs, they took an already amazing map and optimized the hell out of it with a beautiful re-design. It will be one of the most fast paced maps in the game!
Seoul is a fantastic map that was slightly too big. However if my theory is correct, this rework will condensed, fast paced, and chaotic fun. It quite possibly will be the best map in the game!
I think they wanted to take an already great map and make improvements where it was lacking. While the layout seems to be similar, it is more condensed and fast paced with loads of jump pads connecting each point of interest. Also the interior of each point of interest is a complete redesign. Regardless of re-using assets this was done with care and will most likely be one of the best maps in the game. (That’s just my opinion of course)
I legit hate Seoul lol. It's only fun in the construction variant because otherwise you have to go around this giant pillar that takes forever to get around. I hope this straight up replaces Seoul tbh
Since the first time watching the trailer, I was left with the impression that the Fortune Stadium has the blandness of Sys$Horizon - flat colors and empty rooms with no apparent purpose. I'm sorry, but I'm not that excited for this one.
horizon was meant to be unfinished since in the lore CNS released it before it was done, but Fortune will be more like Skyway in the fact that it is a proper map but it's fantasy and contains fragments of other real-location maps (e.g. Skyway and Monaco) edit: the main attraction of Fortune is that each of the three sponsors for S4 has their own section of the map which will have all their stuff in (so the architecture might be simple but I'm sure there'll be lots of interesting details!)
It’s all speculation, but if it is based off Seoul and if my theory is correct. This map will be a condensed version of Seoul that is faster paced because of the jump pads replacing bridges as well as jump pads near tall structures/buildings to make them easily accessible. Also from the looks of it, the pathways are the same, but the interior of the POIs are completely re-done to the point of being almost entirely different.
This is all speculation of course, but I am looking forward to a reveal to see this beautiful map in its entirety!
Have you sent it to embark for conffirmation... i would but cant, i accidentaly left the discord and need to waut 10h before i can message
@@juremeljo2686I haven’t yet, but in the comments someone stated they talked to a dev and they allegedly confirmed this. I’d like to get into contact with one to confirm this as well.
I think Its ok ich Its a digital version of souel course souel is my Favorit map
I believe just like skyway stadium , fortune stadium is made up of dioramas of the other maps
That also can actually be true, the layout might be based off Seoul however the infrastructure of each building may be based off multiple maps.
@@HazedNConfused I just hope it's different enough where gameplay doesn't feel stale or old.
Skyway stadium was made with parts from monaco and seoul.
If it plays like construction version of seoul it's gunna be hype af.
I'm right there with ya, this map is going to be amazing!
Lol, all the locations are indeed easily recognizable. I'm even a little disappointed, but the updated look with this Mirror's Edge-like color palette NICEEE. Besides, Seoul-along with Monaco-is my favorite map.
I'm loving the re-design its super clean and everything seems very condensed as well as fast paced (because of the jump pads connecting each point of interest). I think this will bring the game back to its roots with chaotic fun gameplay. It has the potential to be one of the best maps in the game!
I actually think the only section of the new map they've revealed is the blue and white area but the rest is in fact Soel just with new textures for the new season to give the maps more of an arena gameshow feel. People are just mistaking it to be new since the teaser is so short.
This also could be a possibility too.
@@HazedNConfused there's also a blink and you'll miss it shot of what appears to be Vegas only now it has this sleek themed sponsor look to it so maybe all the old maps are getting this new texture treatment.
In the 3rd picture, the building behind/in the distance of what is believed to be the new apartments does not have the same color palette as the building seen in the 2nd picture, which is believed to be the new hospital. It does have the same color palette as the first picture however, making the layout different than what would be in Seoul.
Hey I wanted to come back and say you made a really good point. That had me pondering enough to make an entirely new video. I wanted to say thank you for pointing it out!
Bro your thumbnails are amazing. Great videos too!! I subscribed!!
Thanks you, I appreciate the support!
What if this is just a reskinned seoul and they are gonna show the new map at twitchcon
That would be one hell of an uno reverse 😂
That would be insane
I would love this. Seoul is the worst map
@@tim0735Sys is the worst maps
@@tim0735 bad take seoul is probably the best feelin in my oppinion
If you really think about it Seoul is a very hard map for new players because of the layout. Without construction there has to be calculated movement to make it in time for a cashout after a wipe.
If a rework of the map is done, I'm sure many players would be happy, but of course, as someone with hundreds of hours, something brand new would be fantastic. S4 looks to add so much as well, so I'm sure all will be please either way.
Note: with Kyoto getting a new variant, this would be hype as just a Seoul variant. And maybe a new map altogether 🎉🎉🎉
If it does turn out to be based off Seoul, I addition of jump pads rather than bridges will be easier for new players to push objectives without full knowledge of how to use defense gadgets. Also the gameplay will go a hell of a lot faster with the condensed distance of the Big Hospital!
There was a Cherry Blossom variant in the S3 trailers that we didn't get 🤕
Imagine there was a fast hyperjump in a channel INSIDE the construction block, so you could jump from app's alley to datacenter! But not backwards.
Other way would be from lil med to mall. That would be pretty cool. No back & forth movement, but these cuts would be possible.
I wonder if the map's variants are digital versions of seoul, monaco, skyway, and maybe a few others.
That could very be possibility too!
I'm going to assume that either this is a map recolor for this season, or it will work like the World Tour - at high ranks the maps change depending on which sponsor you choose.
No, it’s a new map. This is already confirmed
@@Joepoeee Okay, why are there so many pieces of other maps then?
@@АнтониоКуринноио because it’s their game and they can re use designs that work. They are going back to their roots this season they already said it. Also on their blog post they literally posted an image saying “NEW MAP”
@@АнтониоКуринноиоever played on skyway stadium? this most likely will be similar.. a sort of revamp and mix of maps
what do you mean when you say it’s a digital variance map “like syshorizon”? is syshorizon based on another map? or do you just mean it’s more digital than the more real life inspired maps
When Syshorizon was developed its infrastructure was based on a real life location. This location was never stated by the map developers. However I’m implying that the same treatment has been implemented to Fortune Stadium as a condensed fast paced Seoul thats main method of traversal are jump pads rather than bridges. Sorry for not being clear!
But skyway stadium is a fictional place in game so this also must be a fake place and not based on a irl location. @@HazedNConfused
@@Masface1 it’s based off on the map Seoul not Skyway stadium.
*Edit* I see what you’re saying. That could be very much it as well. We shall see on the reveal. 👍
Sys horizon plays and feels a LOT like a digital vegas
I noticed your Finals settings are higher dpi and lower in game sensitivity. I’m new to PC(and M&K) gaming. What makes you go with these settings are opposed to the inverse(lower dpi higher in game sensitivity)?
The reason I play on higher dpi is because it allows for a faster response time when using 4k or 8k hertz. However in game I lower the sense to match what I play on when using 800 dpi. So for instance if I play on 30 sens in game with 800dpi, it would translate to 15 sense with 1600 dpi. Although the difference in response time is very small, I find that the higher dpi / hertz helps compensate with latency caused by lag. Hope this helps!
@@HazedNConfused It sure does! Thanks for that info!
Seoul was always like long range biased yet still very cool map imo. In this "version" they kinda fixed its only possible downside of being large and too open. I think this map gonna be more comfortable to play than seoul for most players. It seems like nice work was done here.
Yes, I 100% agree with this!
The layout is similar to a condensed Seoul but the actual insides of the building seem to be different
I LOVE SEOUL SO MUCH
With this these improvements, I’m going to call it right now, will be the best map in the game!
@@HazedNConfused I love the vibe it gives and just love the theme of Seoul, I will definitely love this map just as much!
I don't get why you would call it a "digital variance of Seul", all the maps are digital representations, the contestants are always competing in digital arenas... 🤨🤷♂️
Great question The Finals is a game show that is based off a simulated reality this map would be taking the specific simulated reality back to its digital roots. Kind of like how Horizon’s infrastructure was based off a real location, but was left in an incomplete digital state. Also this is best way I could word it without people jumping to the “It’s a re-skin” conclusion because it definitely is not.
@@HazedNConfused thanks for the explanation, I really like this game and I hope more people get into it, so keep on making content and let's get people hyped 🤘
I mean it's definitely a new map. Not a reskin.
Not a reskin, but a complete overall improvement / redesign of the map (in theory anyways).
Good theory
I will now believe it and leave the like on the video
Lol thank you, greatly appreciated!
im mostly hyped for the weapons
Same man, but this is going to be one of the best. They optimized and improved on an already amazing map. It will be one of the best in the game. Trust!
@@HazedNConfused could we run some games?
thank god beaming bridge got replaced along side the tube of destruction ofc
I've got nightmares till this day push teams on them. lol
This doesn’t confirm anything but it totally confirms a second map drop mid season, let’s go chat we still getting our Rome map I swear it’s not cope
lmao
I believveee!
The map that i most want in the finals are Paris and Rome
Keep the faith, Embark always pulls through!
@@HazedNConfused Sure Scotty
@@MaxSole-cj1rh Thanks June!
So excited 🔥🔥
Same man, this is going to be a movement players dream…… and third parties 😂
I was talking to a dev and they basically confirmed this... (I was referring to this video whilst talking to the dev)
That’s very interesting to hear, well I certainly feel less crazy now. lol
@HazedNConfused send me your discord and I'll link you the messages
Send me your discord and I'll send you the messages from the dev
@@aspookabie Yea, its HNC30#4093. Thanks you!
@@HazedNConfused I have sent it to you
Babe,wake up HazedNConfused just posted
Dang your up early! lol Thanks for being here!
@@HazedNConfused I just like your vids bro👍
@@ItsGalaxy_12 thanks you, it really means a lot to hear 🙏
Interesting take
Thank you, I hope it’s the case. However we won’t know for sure until the reveal trailer comes out.
Can you pls do a m11 vs xp54 all videos that cover this are outdated
Soon ;)
I think this is only a redesign for another game mode. Completly new map is not revealed i think. This was only a teaser. Better wait for trailer itself.
But like... it's all digital??????????? Why not just say that it's a sponsorship/advertised version of Seoul?
It’s all theory. The reason why I said digital, is because it’s a virtual game show that switched real structures into the sponsors preferred structure in the digital world. Both can be true. Very excited for the map and the lore behind it!
the ads/signs in the new map are in chinese
I believe that is from the sponsor representing that particular point of interest. From what it looks like each area will have its own sponsor making it unique to that company.
Watching the reveal and.
Yeah no, you called it. Damn.
Im sure the map will be good but lets be honest. Theres alot of rehashed stuff in this game. Im sure it saves them time and money though
Yep and I’m fine with re-used assets just as long as it’s done well. Also I wouldn’t mind a smaller version of Seoul, having to run back to a cashbox is a nightmare after a wipe. lol
It looks good but I hate how they using the same thing Iwant a completely new map like give us a oil rig it would be awesome.
It is not my favorite practice either. However Fortune Stadium seems like a condensed fast paced Seoul that's main method of traversal are jump pads rather than bridges. This will hopefully bring the Finals back to its roots with hectic gameplay on another level and has the potential to be one of the best maps in the game!
tl;dr: let them cook ffs
Hear me out: besides the obvious benefit to developers that comes from reusing assets, I want to believe that that Embark are using their Battlefield experience and remixing enjoyable gameplay areas rather than making something completely new just for the sake of it. Battlefield 3 & 4 had many unique looking DLC maps that were incredibly unfun to play on. Skyway rules. Seoul rules. Why not save time by mashing together the best of both of them?
It isn't possible to make a brand new map with completely new assets during the length of a season. Embark is around 300 developers. Call of Duty is more like 3000. Fortnite has 4000+ developers working on it. Either we forgive Embark for reusing assets in order to push out content faster, or we have to get comfortable with getting one map a year, instead of 2-3.
If it is based of Seoul, the improvements made just from the info presented in the teaser will make this map possibly the best in the game. That’s just my opinion of course.
Hopefully they learned a lot from the feedback on Sys and Kyoto!
Kyoto was a brand new map with completely new assets
@@kylerclarke2689 I trust these devs, they took an already amazing map and optimized the hell out of it with a beautiful re-design. It will be one of the most fast paced maps in the game!
I'm willing to confidently assume that Kyoto's assets were well through production before the game left beta.
Why does embark love hospitals so much? 😂
Maybe the lore reason could be that the creator of the vr game The Finals was someone who was a doc before they went all in on theyre hobby
Me too, I'm dying to know......
*Alright I'll show myself out now lol*
I mean seoul is so much fun
Seoul is a fantastic map that was slightly too big. However if my theory is correct, this rework will condensed, fast paced, and chaotic fun. It quite possibly will be the best map in the game!
@@HazedNConfused atleast its not kyoto :p
@@bg3545 You mean the mantle simulator 😂
@@HazedNConfused 😂
if this is true i would really wanna know the reasons behind this
I think they wanted to take an already great map and make improvements where it was lacking. While the layout seems to be similar, it is more condensed and fast paced with loads of jump pads connecting each point of interest. Also the interior of each point of interest is a complete redesign. Regardless of re-using assets this was done with care and will most likely be one of the best maps in the game. (That’s just my opinion of course)
I legit hate Seoul lol. It's only fun in the construction variant because otherwise you have to go around this giant pillar that takes forever to get around. I hope this straight up replaces Seoul tbh
I like Seoul, but it is a TREK when respawning and going back to your cash out after a wipe and don’t even get me started on pushing big hospital. lol
Let’s gooooo
Definitely am too, if they made these improvements to an already great map. It will definitely be one of the best in the game!
Since the first time watching the trailer, I was left with the impression that the Fortune Stadium has the blandness of Sys$Horizon - flat colors and empty rooms with no apparent purpose. I'm sorry, but I'm not that excited for this one.
horizon was meant to be unfinished since in the lore CNS released it before it was done, but Fortune will be more like Skyway in the fact that it is a proper map but it's fantasy and contains fragments of other real-location maps (e.g. Skyway and Monaco)
edit: the main attraction of Fortune is that each of the three sponsors for S4 has their own section of the map which will have all their stuff in
(so the architecture might be simple but I'm sure there'll be lots of interesting details!)
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Got it and thank you so much! 😊
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Its real bad dude, what a disappointment coming from Kyoto
Oh so its a lazy copy great. Fuck this casual console player ran game.
I'm confused.. So we r getting a map we've already had??
It’s all speculation, but if it is based off Seoul and if my theory is correct. This map will be a condensed version of Seoul that is faster paced because of the jump pads replacing bridges as well as jump pads near tall structures/buildings to make them easily accessible. Also from the looks of it, the pathways are the same, but the interior of the POIs are completely re-done to the point of being almost entirely different.