I agree look what they did with D’lo. D’lo and Murray have very similar stats the difference is one is the 4th option and one is the second. Imagine if Lebron had a second option averaging 40% for an entire series, the media would ask him to be publicly executed lmfao.
What about Gordon and Porter who failed to show up vs the Timberwolves in that game 7 imagine what was going to be said if they disappointed the king like that instead of Jokic And yeah nobody talks about that
@@Zemlja_je_ravnahe thinks he's saucy and it's hilarious. He has 6th grade handles like Jalen Brown. He also keeps shooting the most inefficient shot in game deep 2 after iso nowhere for 6 seconds lol
@@МаксимГорюнов-м7и He was literally the best guy in that series and had 34/9/17 in game 7 while outside of him and Murray the whole team had combined 20 points💀 But yeah ok Jokic's fault I guess
@@Blasian_guy yeah, these people pick and choose who to hate on. Idk why people choose to hate on Russ, he's the ideal player that they would want to root for, but instead they ignore all the good, and just can't wait for the bad to happen
Wait a second, I thought Jamal Murray was an "all-star caliber" player. That's what the Jokic haters keep telling me as they're trying to diminish his legacy by exaggerating the quality of his teammates. Now I'm confused. Are you saying Jokic won a title with one of the worst supporting casts of all time?
Jokic had a supporting cast with a low ceiling and a high floor (KCP was widely considered the second best 5th option in the league behind DWhite). Murray elevated his playoff performance to all-star levels, the nuggets faced a relatively weak run and the rest was Jokic's greatness. A lot of things had to go their way for the Nuggets championship which has hidden the absolute disaster of a front office that should be ashamed for wasting the prime of one of the GOATs.
that's NOWHERE NEAR the same, wtf. nobody on Hakeem's team was averaging 26 in an entire playoff run. As a matter of fact they weren't even averaging 15. I get it, different eras, but Vernon maxwell was never even close to being the player Jamal Murray is. The nuggets 4th best player in KCP is better than the rockets second option. y'all be riding jokic, and jokic is goated, but cmon bruh
@@Loxymoxy what I meant was : "No other All stars on the squad." Also this doesn't negate the fact that Murray isn't consistent enough as a second option and that was the main topic
Klay Thompson and Jamal Murray have something in common: both suffered catastrophic injuries to their ACL (Klay with both ACL and Achilles), missed 2 seasons, then returned to the court, won the NBA Finals, then both proceeded to be ass in the following playoffs as they lose in the second round as defending champions (Common theme for champions since the Raptors won the title in 2019), then the next year both Klay and Jamal proceeded to be ass rest of the time being.
@@jeromepowell1873 No one needs to big Jokic up he does it on his own. Everyone is sick of lebron because hes the guy that has to rip everyone down to make his fraudulent self-aggrandizing self look better, so we call him out. Its that simple.
Jamal Murray is a bum who averaged 25ppg to Jokic 30ppg when they won a championship. The man who averaged 32ppg vs Lakers on 50/40/90 splits and kept hitting the biggest shots in every series. A man who Jokic couldn't win without in multiple postseason until his return. Jamal might be a bum but during that championship run, he was the bomb.
@@gugy68 it just reminds me of the disrespect Khris Middleton gets. Khris Middleton basically played the Jamal Murray role hitting all the big shots and free throws down the stretch during that Milwaukee Bucks run. When Giannis went down Khris carried. In the Hawks series Trae Young was cooking them all until Giannis went down Khris brought the series level. He also had 2 40 point games in the finals. Jamal Murray was the guy that destroyed the Clippers in the bubble dropping a daggering 40 points in game 7. Every shot was like a dagger. It was Jamal Murray who was the demon against the Lakers in that bubble only for AD to hit that big shot that killed the series. Jamal got injured, these dudes get rushed back. See Klay Thompson and KD who looks great on the surface but keeps getting swept. He's a 7 footer that will always make shots cos he's almost unguardable until it comes to postseason and he's useless. Jokic needed Jamal a whole lot to win that championship same as Giannis needed Khris but after that their number 2s injuries consumed them. It doesn't mean they are bums
@@MarkLaw13 it does mean they are bums they used to be not bums. jokic and giannis cant win if they stay as bums costing too much. its either move on or they settle for less like klay.
@@artix003 I agree but now all these teams are somewhat even now due to rule changes. Its on the front office to do a better job and take risks. They let Bruce Brown and KCP go for Westbrook. Bucks got Dame who's been complaining since he got there cos he wants to be on the Heat and even worse they went on to get Doc Rivers.
I have a feeling that Murrays playoff performance combined with his Olympic performance is a sign that he’s declining as a player due to lower body injuries. Thats bad news for the Denver Nuggets and Nikola Jokic who I consider to be the best player alive
@@LeeTraviusMcKay I completely disagree with that. Westbrook should not start atp in his career. He’s turnover prone, he has a low basketball iq, he’s a bad free throw shooter, and a bad shooter period. And Jamal Murray is bad defensively. He’d be even worse guarding shooting guards because he’ll be guarding bigger players. Don’t mistake me for a Westbrook hater. I was a huge fan of his in his prime. He’s way past his prime atp tho. Playing Westbrook and Murray together would be a disaster. It won’t work.
@@gim12345 You’re right Westbrook has sacrificed a lot to stay in the league, but his flaws are still there. The issues with his game are still issues. I didn’t mention stat padding at all. Stat padding isn’t the problem. Turnovers and shooting is Westbrooks problem
As a Nugget fan, I love the Russ pickup. I want him to be our backup PG. He will bring energy off the bench and a guy who can get to the rim at will. Hope the Nuggets do that. But we need another SG since we lost KCP.
Murray fits Jokic well because what Jokic needed is a heavy scoring backcourt as he don't shoot a lot. I hope he could regain his bubble performance since the Nuggets needed that to win it all again. Right now, the Nuggets are in the same position as the Bucks after winning the ring. Losing a vital piece (Tucker and Brown). Weak off season acquisitions. Deteriorating 2nd star but needed to be paid(Khris and Murray). Old 3rd star with inconsistent production (Lopez and Russ).
@@rockysalvatore435 Agree, *not the same at all.* Giannis is Greek while Jokic is Serbian. Giannis is slender while Jokic is bulky. _(such a shallow response)_
I will never understand how you can blame people for getting injured. Injuries are random occurances that can happen to anyone at anytime. No player wants to get injured.
You can say the same about Giannis, the only time they won a championship is when Middleton stepped up his game like Jamal Murray. I know Giannis has Dame now but Dame is not the same player
How is Jamal Murray ass. Just because he has one bad postseason, all of sudden now he's ass. Yeah I'm not buying it. I would love to have Jamal Murray on ym team any day any week and I don't care if he's not an All-star. I can trust him in the playoffs. Just because he had one bad postseason doesn't mean he's trash
@dolby8334 Jamal Murray has more than 1 good postseason and he has more that 1 good season. This is why I can't stand oldheads like y'all and besides y'all say Jokic is the best player than why is Jamal Murray is known as the closer of the team and he's the one hitting all the big time shots and game winning shots
@Kings0424 how old are you? Jamal has been injured all post seasons but like 1. Him hitting game winners last post season was the only good thing about him. These games wouldn't get down to game winners if he wasn't playing like crap until the last shot. Jamal is the "closer" because Jokic does 90% of the work the rest of the game. The Nuggets have won post season games and many regular season games without Murray. Without Jokic, statistically, they would be the worst team in the West. You fail to see Jokic props up Murray's game. The dude has never been an all star. You don't like Jokic which is fine, but Murray would be even worse on any other team. He is on the same level as Dlo and maybe even worse
@dolby8334 Yeah yeah okay whatever. Jamal Murray is still a good player to me, in my opinion, and he's in my top 10 point guards in the NBA right now. I will never count him out during playoff time and I'm not gonna criticizing him because of 1 bad postseason. I'm not doing it. And to answer your damn question, I'm 19 turning 20 in October
@Kings0424 from when you were like 14-18 Murray didn't do anything great in the post season or was injured lol. The past 2 years he did amazing 1 post season run and bombed last year (due to injuries). He has a good clutch game shot. That is true. But he is a liability and not an all star caliber guard. You are a Kings fan, I would much rather have Fox than Murray. If Jokic was on the Kings, you guys would probably go to the finals.
I was planning to write to you to create this video, thanks brother. This just shows what a carry job did Jokic do in winning 2023 championship. Nuggets roster is plain ass.
@@mypeople1stwilliam No he won’t, because nobody is as good as MJ. The closest thing to him is Kobe, then Bill Russell as well as Magic/Kareem and Bird.
@@mypeople1stwilliam Look, Jokić with Pippen, Rodman, Kukoč, Harper, Grant, would mean many championships for him, that's for sure. He is yet to play with any player of this 5 caliber. I'm not saying that he is better than Jordan, but in this watered down league, with that kind of help, he would walk to championships
I wonder is '23 playoff Jamal is an aberration or he can get back to that. I would have liked him to rest this offseason. But he was ass after his injury early this past season. He should have sat more than he did to see if he can regain himself. I hope so, but am unsure if he ever will. This really shows the greatness of the Joker
I’m still sh*t at Spanish but one phrase I always know for sure without a doubt is “no se.” I feel really proud of myself anytime I can translate just that one part. Between high school and middle school, I took 7 years of Spanish and have nothing to show for it. “No se” always comes in clutch for me when I’m speaking. Anyway, sorry to get off topic. I hope this man heals and can move on from this.
Damn, I used to joke that any starting 5 with Jokic and Giannis would be hilariously overpowered, imbalanced and break the league. But when you look at the arms race with how stacked rosters are getting, the two of them on the same team would actually be reasonable and competitive in comparison. OKC, Boston and Minnesota rosters are insane.
The man was injured. He had an all-time playoff run in 2023 and 2020. Skap is just saying this to try and push the narrative that Jokic has no help to big up his accomplishments. Smh
Seems like the point “Jokic is insane” could be made without slandering Murray. He’s obviously not ass. And it’s so disingenuous with a young player to use his career averages in the regular season of 17, 5, 4 to summarize “who he is” instead of what matters, like how he’s at 25p, 5r, 7a on 46/40/91 in their last three playoff runs over 51 games lmao. Yeah, sure sounds like an “ass” sidekick to me 😂
Murray is one of the following options, with nothing in between: Superstar , who plays incredible or Bum who goes 3/17 a night... The options are always the same, but differs from game to game.. Either he is great or a bum... Nothing in between..
Id like to point the fact that for every athlete, taking part in their national team efforts is something very important, almost absolute honour, if able and healthy. Murray starts from the bench and plays little minutes, so its fine. Even if he helps with a couple of possessions to earn an olympic medal its still a help hes offering. I guess we have very different view about what is important in sports, athletes and participation in national teams. USA is lucky that Jordan, Kobe the all hated LeBron and everyone in between never had your mentality to say fuck it we chillin, no national team.
For the 2023 playoffs he was phenomenal. There is no denying that. Other than that he has literally been nonexistent due to injury or awful by and large last season. I would have been fine with it at this point if he at least came to camp healthy. What he is doing right now with the Olympics is crazy.
We also can’t forget about the bubble playoffs where he went off and helped the Nuggets come back from TWO 3-1 deficits against the Clippers and the Jazz. Yes I know it was the bubble but that’s still insane to do cause no other team in the bubble did that once let alone twice! Injuries have really taken away Murray’s true potential especially in 2021 and 2022 where Jokic was basically on his own with a G league squad. Hopefully he can come back better this upcoming season cause Jokic and the Nuggets definitely need it!
At least Murrays wanting o play for his country and likely trying to use these Olympics to get back into form, but he should have just rested this summer
If anything this might just be a proof that without Jokic Murray would be much worse. AG revived his career next to the Joker. Bruce Brown was exceptional for them in 2023 championship run, and right after he left Jokic, he became much worse even though he got a bigger role and minutes.
Jokic has won an MVP every year for the last four years (if you include Finals MVP) . When is the last time someone did that...Bird, Magic,??? This is why the postseason is important, but it isn't everything. After all, the regular season is a larger sample size albeit in lower pressure games and against generally weaker competition.
I give Lebron somewhat of a pass...his 1st stint in cleveland teammates were straight ass hot dog water. He would have ended up like kevin Garrnet or something.
I am a Lakers fan! You call sale this b.s. to people who don't watch or know basketball. Jokic is an amazing player. But Denver would not have 1 title if it was not for Murray. I have the receipts! Murray is the player who killed off my Lakers at the end of a lot of the playoff games against my Lakers, whom many experts believe, would have won these championships. ....go back and watch these playoff series.
luka made the wcf 2 years ago you can ride jokic without downing luka whose on a better trajectory than any player in nba history he’s 2 years from his prime and now has a solid team around him to start his 7th season
Murray should just come off the bench instead of starting to help the bench scoring since the nuggets barely made any improvements for production off the bench. Murray started his nba career as a bench player much like jokic and maybe coming off the bench can rejuvenate how he plays to see if he can be the same murray before he started dealing with injuries. Ag, mpj and the rest of the players such as the starters and role players have been too inconsistent and the nuggets need decent and consistent role players both for the starters and off the bench. Deandre jordan has already declined and not the same player that he used to be. Zeke nnaji played better and shot the ball better before he altered his shot and how he shot the ball. When zeke nnaji altered his shot, he is looking like ben simmons bricking shots since the shot is so slow and always off looking when he trys to shoot the ball, he looks like he can't make up his mind between shooting the ball or passing it and he is less focused on shooting the ball compared to the first time he played for the nuggets. Zeke nnaji altered his shot which looks like he is trying way too hard instead of following the necessary repetitions and fundamentals of shooting the basketball, it's like he forgot how to shoot the basketball. Nowadays, zeke nnaji is a better rebounder than shooting the ball anymore. It's gotten to the point that I trust shawn marion shot over zeke nnaji. The nuggets lack consistency since michael malone is very selective about who he chooses to play during certain parts of the regular season and very nit picky in the playoffs.
@@rockysalvatore435 you acting like they ain't good. Also add Aaron Gordon and Micheal Porter Jr to that too. I meant to say solid team not stacked my bad
He's a Jokic merchant, the tape speaks for itself. Murray can only play off of screens and no one is more threatening in a 2 man game than Jokic, the amount of space Murray gets to operate off PnR's is hilarious. He's Dangelo Russel with better PR.
There are plenty of injury prone players playing for the USA but I don't see anyone complaining about them owing their allegiance to their NBA team first
He's not an ass, but just not good enough to provide consistent support to Jokic. He definitely must stay humble about that max extension and focus on having a decent season, both from pov of availability and output.
Jamal Murray has also apparently shown his true colors and turned into a punk after getting spanked by the Timberwolves. I get that losing sucks but I thought he would have had more class than to throw shit onto the court and potentially injure someone badly. I lost a lot of respect for Jamal after this past postseason…
If Jamal Murray shot as poorly as he did as Jokic's teammate but instead was on LeBron's team, the man would be crucified.
LeBron lives rent free in your head
I agree look what they did with D’lo. D’lo and Murray have very similar stats the difference is one is the 4th option and one is the second. Imagine if Lebron had a second option averaging 40% for an entire series, the media would ask him to be publicly executed lmfao.
What about Gordon and Porter who failed to show up vs the Timberwolves in that game 7 imagine what was going to be said if they disappointed the king like that instead of Jokic
And yeah nobody talks about that
*GREAT POINT!!!!*
Yep and traded
Murray has been really disappointing since the championship win
Watching this version of Murray for next 4 years in Denver will be horrible experience...
@@Zemlja_je_ravnahe thinks he's saucy and it's hilarious. He has 6th grade handles like Jalen Brown. He also keeps shooting the most inefficient shot in game deep 2 after iso nowhere for 6 seconds lol
That’s a single year.
Jokic champ with Murray as the second best player becomes even more impressive as time pass.
Not really, murray was dropping 30 a game
It's one of the best rings any superstar ever won
@@billcrotts5456 1000%. Extremely impressive
@@bboywolfbc joker gravity. He carried will barton Rivers monte morris to playoffs lmao.
@@rockysalvatore435 carrying to the playoffs is something all the mvps can do
I was waiting for Darko like I WAS in GTA😂😂😂😂
They forget jokic carried him
Yet choked in the 7th game at home, fraud mvp
@@МаксимГорюнов-м7и
He was literally the best guy in that series and had 34/9/17 in game 7 while outside of him and Murray the whole team had combined 20 points💀
But yeah ok Jokic's fault I guess
@@RealMrSmileJokic and Jamal were also taking majority of the shots between the two of them so nobody else could get into rhythm.
@@МаксимГорюнов-м7и ant no one winning against the twin towers and ant
@@МаксимГорюнов-м7иzero ball knowledge
Yall treat Westbrook like a bum watch. Westbrook was great before harden joined they didn’t even need harden
Very true
They ignore that but yeah. He was good for a while harden first got there but they were losing
@@Blasian_guy yeah, these people pick and choose who to hate on. Idk why people choose to hate on Russ, he's the ideal player that they would want to root for, but instead they ignore all the good, and just can't wait for the bad to happen
@@Loxymoxy stat pad. To prune. Never changed
@@rockysalvatore435 His stats actually got worse, he had far less rebounds, but was way more efficient, and played much better defense.
Wait a second, I thought Jamal Murray was an "all-star caliber" player. That's what the Jokic haters keep telling me as they're trying to diminish his legacy by exaggerating the quality of his teammates. Now I'm confused. Are you saying Jokic won a title with one of the worst supporting casts of all time?
Just like Hakeem in '94. I'm baffled by how impressive those two runs are when you pay close attention to that
Jokic had a supporting cast with a low ceiling and a high floor (KCP was widely considered the second best 5th option in the league behind DWhite). Murray elevated his playoff performance to all-star levels, the nuggets faced a relatively weak run and the rest was Jokic's greatness. A lot of things had to go their way for the Nuggets championship which has hidden the absolute disaster of a front office that should be ashamed for wasting the prime of one of the GOATs.
he had one bad playoff run bruh, nobody said that he was a superstar
that's NOWHERE NEAR the same, wtf. nobody on Hakeem's team was averaging 26 in an entire playoff run. As a matter of fact they weren't even averaging 15. I get it, different eras, but Vernon maxwell was never even close to being the player Jamal Murray is. The nuggets 4th best player in KCP is better than the rockets second option. y'all be riding jokic, and jokic is goated, but cmon bruh
@@Loxymoxy what I meant was : "No other All stars on the squad."
Also this doesn't negate the fact that Murray isn't consistent enough as a second option and that was the main topic
Klay Thompson and Jamal Murray have something in common: both suffered catastrophic injuries to their ACL (Klay with both ACL and Achilles), missed 2 seasons, then returned to the court, won the NBA Finals, then both proceeded to be ass in the following playoffs as they lose in the second round as defending champions (Common theme for champions since the Raptors won the title in 2019), then the next year both Klay and Jamal proceeded to be ass rest of the time being.
That's about all they have in common. Klay is a great defender and one of the best shooters of all time. Klay has more than 1 good season as well.
I appreciate the context!
Dang that’s true
Klay was a lot older when he had his injuries
Jokić is who everyone pretends LeFraud is
Seriously. Everybody has to “sacrifice” when Lebron is on their team. Jokic actually brings out the most in the talent around him.
@@mattdeluccia153Why do people have to take shots at Lebron in order to big up their guy?
@@jeromepowell1873 insecurity, I’d guess
@@jeromepowell1873 No one needs to big Jokic up he does it on his own.
Everyone is sick of lebron because hes the guy that has to rip everyone down to make his fraudulent self-aggrandizing self look better, so we call him out. Its that simple.
@@Colinkrauss1 That would be Lebron, ironically. Most insecure attention-seeking mf in NBA history
gtfoh
Jamal Murray is a bum who averaged 25ppg to Jokic 30ppg when they won a championship.
The man who averaged 32ppg vs Lakers on 50/40/90 splits and kept hitting the biggest shots in every series.
A man who Jokic couldn't win without in multiple postseason until his return.
Jamal might be a bum but during that championship run, he was the bomb.
As a Lakers fan I want to hate on Jamal but the guy put two daggers on my team this last playoffs, so I would not call him a bum. 😂
@@gugy68 it just reminds me of the disrespect Khris Middleton gets.
Khris Middleton basically played the Jamal Murray role hitting all the big shots and free throws down the stretch during that Milwaukee Bucks run. When Giannis went down Khris carried. In the Hawks series Trae Young was cooking them all until Giannis went down Khris brought the series level. He also had 2 40 point games in the finals.
Jamal Murray was the guy that destroyed the Clippers in the bubble dropping a daggering 40 points in game 7. Every shot was like a dagger.
It was Jamal Murray who was the demon against the Lakers in that bubble only for AD to hit that big shot that killed the series.
Jamal got injured, these dudes get rushed back. See Klay Thompson and KD who looks great on the surface but keeps getting swept. He's a 7 footer that will always make shots cos he's almost unguardable until it comes to postseason and he's useless.
Jokic needed Jamal a whole lot to win that championship same as Giannis needed Khris but after that their number 2s injuries consumed them.
It doesn't mean they are bums
@@MarkLaw13 it does mean they are bums they used to be not bums. jokic and giannis cant win if they stay as bums costing too much. its either move on or they settle for less like klay.
@@artix003 I agree but now all these teams are somewhat even now due to rule changes. Its on the front office to do a better job and take risks. They let Bruce Brown and KCP go for Westbrook. Bucks got Dame who's been complaining since he got there cos he wants to be on the Heat and even worse they went on to get Doc Rivers.
@@MarkLaw13Jamal is replaceable dumb dumb. A consistent shooter is all that's needed not a shot chucker who only plays good when joker plays
Are we forgeting MPJ? Basically the Denver GM is laughably bad.
2:28 legendary
I have a feeling that Murrays playoff performance combined with his Olympic performance is a sign that he’s declining as a player due to lower body injuries. Thats bad news for the Denver Nuggets and Nikola Jokic who I consider to be the best player alive
They should put Jamal Murray at the 2 and let Russell Westbrook be the point guard
@@LeeTraviusMcKay I completely disagree with that. Westbrook should not start atp in his career. He’s turnover prone, he has a low basketball iq, he’s a bad free throw shooter, and a bad shooter period. And Jamal Murray is bad defensively. He’d be even worse guarding shooting guards because he’ll be guarding bigger players. Don’t mistake me for a Westbrook hater. I was a huge fan of his in his prime. He’s way past his prime atp tho. Playing Westbrook and Murray together would be a disaster. It won’t work.
@@cameronspencer214in defense of west, he's been improving and letting his stat padding ego Go away.He wants a ring to consolidate his career
@@gim12345 You’re right Westbrook has sacrificed a lot to stay in the league, but his flaws are still there. The issues with his game are still issues. I didn’t mention stat padding at all. Stat padding isn’t the problem. Turnovers and shooting is Westbrooks problem
i noticed in the playoffs murray's ability to create separation in 2024 was no where near what it was in 2023.
Finally someone said it. He’s not trash he’s just not what he’s not as good as he has been marketed .
Dude is just a winner. Skap is 100% correct. Jokic should be celebrated.
At this rate Jokic might only end up with 1 chip like Bill Walton
As a Nugget fan, I love the Russ pickup. I want him to be our backup PG. He will bring energy off the bench and a guy who can get to the rim at will. Hope the Nuggets do that. But we need another SG since we lost KCP.
If Murray this season don’t step and help the Joker will be embarrassing
Murray fits Jokic well because what Jokic needed is a heavy scoring backcourt as he don't shoot a lot.
I hope he could regain his bubble performance since the Nuggets needed that to win it all again.
Right now, the Nuggets are in the same position as the Bucks after winning the ring.
Losing a vital piece (Tucker and Brown).
Weak off season acquisitions.
Deteriorating 2nd star but needed to be paid(Khris and Murray).
Old 3rd star with inconsistent production (Lopez and Russ).
Gianni's has ten times the help and hospital ring. Not same at all
@@rockysalvatore435 Agree, *not the same at all.* Giannis is Greek while Jokic is Serbian. Giannis is slender while Jokic is bulky.
_(such a shallow response)_
The vintage image of the floating dumpster fire will never get old
But he turns into Michael Jordan when he plays the Lakers
In the playoffs in general. When he played in the bubble, he was scoring 30ppg and outplayed Donovan Mitchell
Not this year, he had 2 buzzer beater against them but he played bad for the majority of the games.
You casuals can't name a different player outside of MJ for comparisons. Dude played trash outside of 2 buzzer beater. That has nothing to do with MJ.
I could probably do that lol
I once sneezed here in Ukraine, Jamal Murray somehow felt a disturbance in the Force, and suffered a torn ACL as a result.
You also managed to take out AD at the same time causing him to miss games in the upcoming season.
@@IowaNinersFanad is healthier and tougher than curry little bay area fan. Try again. Eliminated curry too
I will never understand how you can blame people for getting injured. Injuries are random occurances that can happen to anyone at anytime. No player wants to get injured.
If you get injured every year then that's your fault. Its HIS body failing
He literally had a very good reason for load management and decided to play anyway.
Skap is dumb. Everyone knows this with his awful and emotional takes.
You can say the same about Giannis, the only time they won a championship is when Middleton stepped up his game like Jamal Murray. I know Giannis has Dame now but Dame is not the same player
Skap attack is telling the truth about nba players
Excluding the claim that Kobe Bryant (SG/SF) was better basketball player than Tim Duncan (PF/C)
@@oops_ups1de_your_head yeah that is basically the only thing I think that I don't agree with him, Tim is better for sure
How is Jamal Murray ass. Just because he has one bad postseason, all of sudden now he's ass. Yeah I'm not buying it. I would love to have Jamal Murray on ym team any day any week and I don't care if he's not an All-star. I can trust him in the playoffs. Just because he had one bad postseason doesn't mean he's trash
Bro, he has only had 1 good season and 1 good post season run. He is also injured all the time. His best season wasn't even all star worthy..
@dolby8334 Jamal Murray has more than 1 good postseason and he has more that 1 good season. This is why I can't stand oldheads like y'all and besides y'all say Jokic is the best player than why is Jamal Murray is known as the closer of the team and he's the one hitting all the big time shots and game winning shots
@Kings0424 how old are you? Jamal has been injured all post seasons but like 1. Him hitting game winners last post season was the only good thing about him. These games wouldn't get down to game winners if he wasn't playing like crap until the last shot. Jamal is the "closer" because Jokic does 90% of the work the rest of the game. The Nuggets have won post season games and many regular season games without Murray. Without Jokic, statistically, they would be the worst team in the West. You fail to see Jokic props up Murray's game. The dude has never been an all star. You don't like Jokic which is fine, but Murray would be even worse on any other team. He is on the same level as Dlo and maybe even worse
@dolby8334 Yeah yeah okay whatever. Jamal Murray is still a good player to me, in my opinion, and he's in my top 10 point guards in the NBA right now. I will never count him out during playoff time and I'm not gonna criticizing him because of 1 bad postseason. I'm not doing it. And to answer your damn question, I'm 19 turning 20 in October
@Kings0424 from when you were like 14-18 Murray didn't do anything great in the post season or was injured lol. The past 2 years he did amazing 1 post season run and bombed last year (due to injuries). He has a good clutch game shot. That is true. But he is a liability and not an all star caliber guard. You are a Kings fan, I would much rather have Fox than Murray. If Jokic was on the Kings, you guys would probably go to the finals.
I was planning to write to you to create this video, thanks brother. This just shows what a carry job did Jokic do in winning 2023 championship. Nuggets roster is plain ass.
And he scored 17 points through 3 games he played for Canada, that's 5,7 not 6,5.
😂 Next he’ll compare Jokic to Jordan
@@mypeople1stwilliam No he won’t, because nobody is as good as MJ. The closest thing to him is Kobe, then Bill Russell as well as Magic/Kareem and Bird.
@@mypeople1stwilliam Look, Jokić with Pippen, Rodman, Kukoč, Harper, Grant, would mean many championships for him, that's for sure. He is yet to play with any player of this 5 caliber. I'm not saying that he is better than Jordan, but in this watered down league, with that kind of help, he would walk to championships
So all of sudden now Jamal has one bad postseason, he's trash now, yeah I'm not buying it
oh don't worry Skap, they'll do the usual load management
I wonder is '23 playoff Jamal is an aberration or he can get back to that. I would have liked him to rest this offseason. But he was ass after his injury early this past season. He should have sat more than he did to see if he can regain himself. I hope so, but am unsure if he ever will. This really shows the greatness of the Joker
Nokic should just bounce
I guess we forgot Luka in 2022???!!! 😂😂😂😂
Yeah, that Luka slander was ridiculous. Glad I wasn’t the only one that noticed.
Oh Canada. Murray is ass, SGA is the man with footwork like Kobe himself.
SGA isn’t like Kobe either just stop and let him be SGA🤦🏽♂️
Correction .
📢 MEN, with footwork like Michael Jeffrey Jordan himself.
@@oops_ups1de_your_head Hakeem not MJ
@@stephordless8876 SGA has openly said his game is influenced by Kobe. That’s how the world works. We mimic those who come before us.
@@projectaletheia8707 Everyone is influenced but he’s himself not Kobe and that’s not disrespectful to say as a man. Be ya self.
Germany is biggest threat imho
All I know is when it mattered most, bum Murray hit 2 game winners in a 4-1 gentleman's sweep of the ultimate bum a**.
Jamal Murray does not deserve a contract extension at all
I wouldn’t say all that everybody else getting them
Lol
Casual take
35 mil max, MAX!
Averages 30 for jokic tho 😂@@rockysalvatore435
3 things...jamal has a nagging injury...out of shape eating too much after the nba break...just can't fit as a off guard to shai
Lebum fans act like he's an All-Star 😂
11:49 curry stans been real quiet lol. Where y'all at
I’m still sh*t at Spanish but one phrase I always know for sure without a doubt is “no se.” I feel really proud of myself anytime I can translate just that one part. Between high school and middle school, I took 7 years of Spanish and have nothing to show for it. “No se” always comes in clutch for me when I’m speaking. Anyway, sorry to get off topic. I hope this man heals and can move on from this.
Sorry Jokic is the best player now hands down.
What's the reason for Jamal Murray's hate?
Damn, I used to joke that any starting 5 with Jokic and Giannis would be hilariously overpowered, imbalanced and break the league. But when you look at the arms race with how stacked rosters are getting, the two of them on the same team would actually be reasonable and competitive in comparison. OKC, Boston and Minnesota rosters are insane.
Buh buh muh ant sga carry their teams. Muh face of the league
You're insulting a player that never has been great for not being great.
True but Skap's point (when not talking LeBum) is usually that Jokic has no help
I mean... he doesn’t really
Jokic is the greatest center of all time in his era
Hell what True Centers are in his era? Embid...and who else?
@@crharper25😂😂😂 exactly. Who is out there?
The man was injured. He had an all-time playoff run in 2023 and 2020. Skap is just saying this to try and push the narrative that Jokic has no help to big up his accomplishments. Smh
Smh
Skap is just a hater
1000% agree. Been saying Murray isnt good. Been watching the Olympics but not the US mens and womens bball teams.
Seems like the point “Jokic is insane” could be made without slandering Murray. He’s obviously not ass. And it’s so disingenuous with a young player to use his career averages in the regular season of 17, 5, 4 to summarize “who he is” instead of what matters, like how he’s at 25p, 5r, 7a on 46/40/91 in their last three playoff runs over 51 games lmao. Yeah, sure sounds like an “ass” sidekick to me 😂
i love jamal murray so this has been very difficult... youre 100% right though...
Knowing Skap probably top 20😬😂
max extension XD
Murray is one of the following options, with nothing in between:
Superstar , who plays incredible or
Bum who goes 3/17 a night...
The options are always the same, but differs from game to game.. Either he is great or a bum... Nothing in between..
Already knew this but supporting the channel lol
I was thinking how this is must like video until you mentioned Doncic 🙈
He's inconsistent w Luka. Luka carries trash
@@rockysalvatore435 look back at Lukas rosters in '21 - '24
Id like to point the fact that for every athlete, taking part in their national team efforts is something very important, almost absolute honour, if able and healthy. Murray starts from the bench and plays little minutes, so its fine. Even if he helps with a couple of possessions to earn an olympic medal its still a help hes offering. I guess we have very different view about what is important in sports, athletes and participation in national teams. USA is lucky that Jordan, Kobe the all hated LeBron and everyone in between never had your mentality to say fuck it we chillin, no national team.
He’s inconsistent but he’s a killer, you can’t deny that.
For the 2023 playoffs he was phenomenal. There is no denying that. Other than that he has literally been nonexistent due to injury or awful by and large last season. I would have been fine with it at this point if he at least came to camp healthy. What he is doing right now with the Olympics is crazy.
We also can’t forget about the bubble playoffs where he went off and helped the Nuggets come back from TWO 3-1 deficits against the Clippers and the Jazz. Yes I know it was the bubble but that’s still insane to do cause no other team in the bubble did that once let alone twice! Injuries have really taken away Murray’s true potential especially in 2021 and 2022 where Jokic was basically on his own with a G league squad. Hopefully he can come back better this upcoming season cause Jokic and the Nuggets definitely need it!
@@skap_attack he was averaging 30 in the bubble stop being on bs
@@shadowsoul1695bubble don't count
@@KingoftheLions-z87stop bragging about the bubble lbj Stan LMFAO
At least Murrays wanting o play for his country and likely trying to use these Olympics to get back into form, but he should have just rested this summer
Can't blame him. Blame the front office.
If anything this might just be a proof that without Jokic Murray would be much worse. AG revived his career next to the Joker. Bruce Brown was exceptional for them in 2023 championship run, and right after he left Jokic, he became much worse even though he got a bigger role and minutes.
No one hates you just be like” gawk Denver I spelled it wrong I’m out” no one hates you bro
U deliberately left out Murray’s career playoff stats just this season n career regular season when he didn’t even start his rookie year
Jokic has won an MVP every year for the last four years (if you include Finals MVP) . When is the last time someone did that...Bird, Magic,??? This is why the postseason is important, but it isn't everything. After all, the regular season is a larger sample size albeit in lower pressure games and against generally weaker competition.
LBJ did get in 09-2013. But Y’all hate Lebron.
Compare rosters
@@samcool4350 no he didn't Rose and Dirk won in '11.
I give Lebron somewhat of a pass...his 1st stint in cleveland teammates were straight ass hot dog water. He would have ended up like kevin Garrnet or something.
I am a Lakers fan!
You call sale this b.s. to people who don't watch or know basketball. Jokic is an amazing player. But Denver would not have 1 title if it was not for Murray. I have the receipts! Murray is the player who killed off my Lakers at the end of a lot of the playoff games against my Lakers, whom many experts believe, would have won these championships.
....go back and watch these playoff series.
luka made the wcf 2 years ago you can ride jokic without downing luka whose on a better trajectory than any player in nba history he’s 2 years from his prime and now has a solid team around him to start his 7th season
@O-N-TeIe_Gram-skap_attack1 we can i agree with a lot of your takes but seems you have hatred for luka
crazy
Murray is disappointing
But not a bum
Il just happens that other stars have greater players to support them
Jokic is doing what he does in a shit league
Murray should just come off the bench instead of starting to help the bench scoring since the nuggets barely made any improvements for production off the bench. Murray started his nba career as a bench player much like jokic and maybe coming off the bench can rejuvenate how he plays to see if he can be the same murray before he started dealing with injuries. Ag, mpj and the rest of the players such as the starters and role players have been too inconsistent and the nuggets need decent and consistent role players both for the starters and off the bench. Deandre jordan has already declined and not the same player that he used to be. Zeke nnaji played better and shot the ball better before he altered his shot and how he shot the ball. When zeke nnaji altered his shot, he is looking like ben simmons bricking shots since the shot is so slow and always off looking when he trys to shoot the ball, he looks like he can't make up his mind between shooting the ball or passing it and he is less focused on shooting the ball compared to the first time he played for the nuggets. Zeke nnaji altered his shot which looks like he is trying way too hard instead of following the necessary repetitions and fundamentals of shooting the basketball, it's like he forgot how to shoot the basketball. Nowadays, zeke nnaji is a better rebounder than shooting the ball anymore. It's gotten to the point that I trust shawn marion shot over zeke nnaji. The nuggets lack consistency since michael malone is very selective about who he chooses to play during certain parts of the regular season and very nit picky in the playoffs.
Jokic is the greatest center of all time just behind Shaq
Shaq is at best 4th best center ever
Greatest not necessarily but skill wise you can argue that Jokic might be the best
Kareem is the greatest center ever
@@RealMrSmilejokic is not more skilled than Hakeem
Shaq has never been #1 lmao gtfo outta here 😂😂😂lol
Jokic had Kcp, bruce brown, crhistian bruan and Murray. That is a stacked team
@@KingoftheLions-z87 skap respond to this dummy right now bruh. He really said this. Show him what lbj and curry had in comparison
@@rockysalvatore435 you acting like they ain't good. Also add Aaron Gordon and Micheal Porter Jr to that too. I meant to say solid team not stacked my bad
@@rockysalvatore435 that 2023 teams was stacked ASF 😂
@@KingoftheLions-z87 None of them are all stars… only Jokic was.
Get Luka Denver! LeBron it!!
Jamal Murray hit a shot.
He's a Jokic merchant, the tape speaks for itself. Murray can only play off of screens and no one is more threatening in a 2 man game than Jokic, the amount of space Murray gets to operate off PnR's is hilarious. He's Dangelo Russel with better PR.
Jokic is better than Jamal Murray
Joker has no defense u can't win like that anyway..he's been exposed but you can blame everyone else 😂😂
Ungrateful Jokic fanboys...
I remember when there was a debate on who was the most important player on the Nuggets, what a joke.
Not the dad in the bathroom Friday clip 💩
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I love you Skap 😂❤
Why nobody is talking bout how the Warriors stopped Andrew Wiggins from playing for Team Canada with some bs excuse related to his contract???
ITZ A KOMPLIT, KREP 😂
Bro is doing anything BUT talk about team USA
Solido takes as always SA - thank you.
Looove the friday reference
He probably gonna have to take less money.
Denver shouldn't offer the max
If Jokic doesn’t win a gold medal is he still the best player in the world
The nuggets are going from contenders to nobodies with all these trades
He quickly proved again why he isn’t an all star after everyone saying he should have been one 😂
You can't expect much from a grown man that is rocking a Side Show Bob haircut.
Jamal Murray's performances fluctuate too much. He can be great but he can also be awful.
I think Westbrook will make a difference if they allow him Jokic is unselfish
There are plenty of injury prone players playing for the USA but I don't see anyone complaining about them owing their allegiance to their NBA team first
I agree, he looks the part and plays the part.
As a Lakers fan I want to hate on Jamal but the guy put two daggers on my team this last playoffs, so I would not call him a bum. 😂
So if youre gonna hate on Murray more, will you at least call out Jokic for being a defensive liability? 😂
He's not an ass, but just not good enough to provide consistent support to Jokic. He definitely must stay humble about that max extension and focus on having a decent season, both from pov of availability and output.
Neimhart been playing well for canada i like him hes a good two way player 🤘
Jamal Murray has also apparently shown his true colors and turned into a punk after getting spanked by the Timberwolves. I get that losing sucks but I thought he would have had more class than to throw shit onto the court and potentially injure someone badly. I lost a lot of respect for Jamal after this past postseason…
but when hes good , hes good we need him
😭😭😭😭 he called him ass 😭😭😭 I was raised in Newark NJ, we used the term ass as kids 😭😭😭😭😭
Jamal Murray taking strays, blame Canada!
Skap attack is the greatest RUclips creator of all time
You know I will always appreciate you 🙏❤