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How effective would MEDIEVAL CUTLERY be in combat and adventuring?!?
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- Опубликовано: 13 янв 2023
- How useful would medieval cutlery be in combat and adventuring?
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There is a historical precedent for a modern soldier killing an enemy by stabbing a spoon into his throat (he found himself in an unexpected grapple and it was the only part of his equipment he could reach )
Ah yes, the infamous MRE Spoon kill
Halo announcer in the background: delicious
@@boredaf6332 if it happened yesterday technically it is “historic” as history is made every day. Lol!
It's _dull_ . It _hurt_ more!
I'd guess he probably stabbed with the handle instead of the spoon head.
I am so pleased all the fighting fantasies I had as a child, while setting the table, were actually plausible.
That's a laugh I didn't expect today. Good on you mate!
Night lords...
Also my Skyrim Knife and Fork build has been validated
Indeed
As a four year old I used to carry one inch folding blade in the shape of a fish. I was convinced I could protect my sister(6yo) on the mile long walk home in the dark from Granny's. Thanks for validating my childhood!
True story here, as a kid I was absolutely terrified of being kidnapped. Not so much for me being hurt, but that I'd be *ransomed*, and cost my parents a lot of money. I have no idea specifically why this was so on my mind, but it was the 80s, I'd probably seen an overdramatic PSA on TV, or some bad soap opera. At any rate, from a young age I also carried a knife everywhere, just in case. My grandfather was an amateur knife maker so he gifted me a couple, because he knew I was such an enthusiast.
To this day I carry a tiny 3cm folding knife on my keys. Infinitely useful for cutting loose threads, opening mail and packages (and really easy to sharpen as there isn't much there). but in the back of my mind there is always the thought that if i'm kidnapped or something, I have a blade to possibly cut through bindings with. or if lost in the woods suddenly, I can make cordage for tourniquets/shelter or process a fish or something.
That's so sweet!
I had a banana shaped one, i wish i found it
It sounds like the added confidence it gave you would have been what would really help protect you and your sister.
Just that can be enough to scare off or deter an attacker.
Shad: Using spoon as a weapon
Me: Obligatory watch "The Horribly Slow Murderer with the Extremely Inefficient Weapon"
Ah yes, the Ginosaji is terrifying
The "blocking a sword with a fork" sounds like a fun way to introduce a characters increased physical abilities: brigand attacks a man eating - man casually blocks the sword with his fork - brigand stares in shock as the "man" lifts hair to show he's an elf (or some other race/class) with greater reflexes and strength.
Elf as a class? Ah that sounds like early DND to me! Quite amazing!
But elves are bitches
Elf throws fork. Fork goes through 3 armored attackers, bounces off rock and returns to hand.
@@donaldhobson8873 I believe it was in Dungeon Siege 2 that had flavor text about throwing weapons. Something like Some famous trainer expected her students to be able to throw a knife through three blocks of wood. You could also get an ability that made thrown knives (over a certain distance) do AoE damage...somehow, and there was debate in-universe as to whether this was via some magic.
I have definitely seen some hyper advanced martial arts master fending off sword strikes using chopsticks, I just can't remember who that was.
Shad can you make a video about medieval First aid and medical care? This field have a lot to be spoken about and is very intriguing.
A hug from Brazil my friend.
he does have one not sure if it is exactly what you are looking for, its called medieval medicine and misconceptions
@@ajrey8457 Yep, but i still think he has lot more to explore in this field, the first aid in combat for example for more information to make realistic healing in games, books and more then just drinking a healing potion or using a bandage/herbs, thanks for the reply my friend
@@maddog4186 like spell healing? yes I agree.
Pray and hope it gets better.
I would love this too!
1:35 I swear to god, I'm been so hyper aware of blades making sounds when drawn/put away.
In a way, the concept reminds me of Japanese martial arts (I mention those because that's what I know) that study the use of the folding fan for self-defense. The idea was to be able to defend oneself in a context where it was not possibile to carry weapons, due to formality or necessity.
I've no doubt that in a lot of societies throughout history, common people have carried knives for self-defense, just not "officially" for that purpose. At least of some size. Even in the most disarmed places possible, you can't stop people from carrying a knife they'll need for eating, or for work, or something. If nothing else, even long knives are very easy to conceal. Certainly there would then also be informal, maybe even self-taught, methods of self-defense, that would not have been recorded.
Lots of weapons, not just in Japan but also in Europe, were developed from tools and farming equipment. From a kitchen knife over sickles and woodsman's axes to simple sticks.
@@HappyBeezerStudios Many farming tools are made for cutting or otherwise taking stuff apart. Those tools can sometimes be redesigned for combat use, usually by making them lighter and more nimble. But even without modification they can often kill someone, so they work in a pinch.
Let's Ask Shogo has another channel called Let's Ask Seki Sensei, where he talks with Seki Sensei and in one of the recent videos he goes over various weapons..one of them was called a "Cha-gatana" or "Tea Katana" in English. Since tea ceremony were supposed to be peaceful, samurai would have to leave their blades away from the room but being weaponless was a big no-no...so what they did was have a wooden sword, carved to look like a tanto dagger in its scabbard..but it was just one solid piece of carved wood, so that if they were attacked for any reason they had a weapon on hand for defense. The specific video is called "A Unique Truncheon Invented by Miyomoto Musashi's Father"
The Souls series give daggers bonus damage upon strike after riposte & backstab, when the enemies are more vulnerable
I just think it's neat that these attributes were taking into consideration there
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Some games give speed bonuses along with damage types, but even then knives tend to get lousy base dmg. Many games you end up using short swords which also give backstab bonus.
@@Fridelain qué?
Beware the man that brings a spoon to a knife fight, because he's either crazy, or he really knows how to use that spoon!
As an Australian, I am disappointed that Shad did not demonstrate the time honored Australian game of Knifey Spooney
I'm not Australian, but I've been enthralled by Knifey Spooney, and I've been practicing my technique. I hope to be able to play a game with someone someday.
probably because it's an american stereotype from an american show and is nonsense.
A spiritual successor of sorts of a sharpened spoon would be the various kinds of one-handed spades uses in WWI. They didn't really look like much, but they could carve into people like an axe, and were a lot easier to use than bajonets in the cramped melees of trench warfare.
I mean, to be fair, The Doctor is over a 1000 years old at this point and has been well established to have been trained in swordplay by the best of the best of swordsmen. So yeah, I could buy that The Doctor would be able to use a spoon to fight off one of the most famous, lovable outlaw in all of fiction.
Kramer from Living Anarchronism carries an eating knife as part of his LARP gear, but I've never considered whether you'd want (or need) to fight with one before. As for killing a larger animal with a small weapon, someone in the Silmarillion kills a direwolf in Angband with just their fists and teeth. Even a small weapon like an eating knife would have been massively helpful to someone with that much skill and desperation.
I love Kramer's channel. Been watching him for over 1 year.
If you want to stab a bigger creature a longer and often bigger blade is better!
I think with a short blade you will not reach the vitals,maybe !
@@killerkraut9179 Still better than fists and teeth
@@killerkraut9179 Good enough for eyes (possibly a brain behind, cranium would be to hatd to pierce otherwise), even if you miss, cutting a brow can lead to blinding with blood, even a small weapon can make opponent bleed, with helps over time ( bare handed fight won't be quick) and causes a lot more pain, which is often overlooked in a fight, but maing your opoonent flinch from pain can help a lot. Lastly, cuttting legs can help a lot too, limiting movement and weakening one of two common vectors of attack (I don't know how effective stab to the face would be against a bite).
Bigger will oftenm be better, especially against something with a lot of fat, but still better than bare hands and teeth.
@@linkolek Take a Small Knive and fight against a Grizzly!
I think you wouldnt stand a chance and fantasy creatures are often much bigger and worse!
A hard skull can be hard to crack !
Many creatures can smell you then is blinding not much good !
Sounds like a funny prompt to a bit, honestly. Barbarian joins the party and insists that all he needs is a knife. The Cleric gets very insistent that he needs more than that, and then the Barbarian just uses his knife as a fork. That night, Cleric decides to cook soup for the party for dinner to get him to use a spoon, but instead he just goes out into the woods, grabs a chunk of wood, and carves himself a spoon with the knife.
Wouldn't even need to to carve a spoon.
Go the asian route and drink the broth from the bowl and use the knife (in lieu of chopsticks) to eat any chunky bits of veg and meat.
*yoink*
One video I'd love to see you cover is on blades which are wavy (like a Kris), advantages and disadvantages for having them.
They're probably a bitch to make, but one advantage I can see is that the impact force is distributed on a smaller area. The various curves are basically miniature axe blades.
Getting hit by a _Flammenschwert_ was probably _not_ a good idea.
@@EvilDoresh i dont think that getting hit by any bladed weapon is good idea, thats just my personal opinion though.
@@Bonikial True, but these kinds of swords could have a stronger impact against plate armor
It makes an uneven, unclean cut. So it's very difficult to stitch up, and the victim would likely die eventually even if they didn't die immediately on the battlefield. Used for thrusting, the keris and other waved blades are devastating weapons.
@@EvilDoresh if you’re fighting someone in plate armor, I think that the cross guard will have the most impact.
I nearly thought this was a medieval themed cooking video because of the title 😅.
Yes please. What happens when the cook is attacked? Dangerous people cooks. They know almost as much as doctors in how to cut things apart in the period. Healing not so much… but cutting? And they tend to be very strong… I see a story here.
@@Jaeler9 Well, they'd cook the attacker.
there is this Scottish medieval reconstructionist here on YT. Basically people had a small cooking utensil bundle with them, at least a cup and spoon.
Also, check out Dungeon Meshi - lots of adventurer cooking there.
Do you mean Fandabi Dozi?
@@kellysouter4381 yeah, I think that's the one.
Skyrim Fork power
Holy fork
Fork is love fork is life.
Hehehe best Skyrim playthrough....
"The Gourmet!"
You joke, but food is OP as hell in Skyrim. Plus, now that anniversary edition is out, and one of the new creations adds in the Fork of Horripilation , you easily do so. Though, on a side note, as someone who started their ES journey with Morrowind, the fact that a goblin is given one of my favorite weapons from that game, the Spear of Bitter Mercy, irks me greatly.
Thanks for the thought experiment Shad. I do remember seeing a film set in the Middle Ages where two attackers used eating forks to pin someone's sleeves to the table to immobilize him.
"Fighting with cutlery" brought to mind the scene from Pirates of the Caribbean where they fire cutlery at the other ship.
...with comedically great yet tactically somewhat questionable effect.
Works well enough if you max out enchanting first.
This almost immediately brought to mind a quest in The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind for me. To gain Sheogorath's favour (a god of madness/insanity) they insist you use a dining utensil, the Fork of Horripilation, to kill a large creature.
Omg, I was just about to record a video that mentioned using peasant cutlery and personal knives.
Thanks for the perfect timing releasing this video. Good day and good luck!
As fantastic as the content of the video is, you DID mention one of the best cinematic lines and delivery and actors, so that's all I can think of now. My siblings and I, to this day, quote that back and forth to each other when we're playing around. 😂
That topic made me think about how in Monster Hunter your character always carries a hunting dagger for gathering materials off monster corpses. Most fantasy adventurers are never fully disarmed uh
You use the hunting knife to stab baby gigis and zamites that bite you.
As far as the knives on the scabbards goes, I have the same Aragorn's ranger sword that you used for your initial wooden Shabbard and at least on the one I have it included a little survival knife sheathed in a side bit on the larger scabbard. But the real meat of this video (heh) I think reminds me of a set of secret weapons you can get in the game Skyrim. While utensils are everywhere in the game, most are just designated as junk items and thus unequitable... except for a couple of select sets found here and there. On those, they *are* listed as weapons in the game and thus letting you use them as makeshift weapons. Sure, they're terrible in the role, doing barely any damage and are as bad as the shiv you can get, basically just a pointy stick barely as long as the a regular dining knife, but they are weapons in the game and a set you can use if you so chose to.
My "salad fork" was enchanted with frost to keep my lettuce cool and crisp, and my "toasting knife" was enchanted with fire to ensure each slice of bread was perfectly toasted to a golden brown . . .
Both were strong enough to kill a dragon with a single hit lol.
(i love the restoration loop)
Shad, I think it would be an interesting video if you were to go down the common weapons listed in the equipment section of 5th edition D&D Players Handbook and develop some special rules for each one to give them some individual flavor.
This would go beyond the limited number of weapon characteristics that exist (reach, versatile, two-handed, etc.), and give each weapon something that would make it more than just a damage dice value; but would still be a simple rule to give the user something a bit different. BUT, it would be on the player to know the specific abilities and remember to use them.
I think the main problem with that is that 5E is designed to be simple, so a lot of those differences are abstracted away, and as such only appear as narrative flavour. You have basically the same hit chance regardless of weapon (but there are a lot of character modifiers), and the vast majority of melee weapons have the exact same reach. After that, the hit dice is really the distinction, and even then it's often not a huge difference anyway.
When it comes to adding stuff to weapons, I think it's also important to not step on racial and class abilities, feats, and other things that would get obsolete if you can accomplish the same thing just by picking a specific weapon.
But overall, I think details like this is a great topic with your DM during session 0. Having a video about it with suggestions wouldn't be a bad idea.
The 2 prong fork, if the sword is glansing off something metal (say armour) You might be able to angle the fork in a way the sword slides into the fork gap on it's own, though you'd have to be well practised and very very fast. It would be a freak occurrence but it would expose their sword arm to direct attack if you got away with it, maybe even disarm them, which then that sword could be yours or a follow up attack (or a follow up to force a withdrawal so you can seize the sword).
Fun fact: When European countries got used to use cutlery in a daily basis, it was still common in the Americas to bring your own knife and fork when eating outside home.
English travellers during 19th century commented how brazilians were always carrying knifes, and those same knifes were used for everything, from eating to self-defense.
Don't forget, you do have the option to hurl the fork at their face as you close the distance. But the biggest issue I have with all these scenarios is... Life or Death, you do ANYTHING to give yourself the advantage. I'd hurl my food to give them pause so I can get to my weapon. Even just throwing nothing, but the motion of pretending to is available.
When it comes to small usable knives/swords, cant help but go back to Dracule Mihawk from One Piece. When he generally carries two main blades with him, first is obvious two-handed sword Yaru, but also a much smaller blade tucked away on his necklace within a cross. He actually used that little blade again Zoro who was using 3 Katanas and won.
He basically uses the smaller one to highlight the gap in skill levels between him and his opponent.
He's not even doing it for bragging rights since he's generally one of the more serious OP characters. He just wants you to know that you've picked the wrong opponent.
Shad go watch some of the Slingshotchannels videos on arrow penetration. I don't think that the penetration of your knife is anywhere near the penetration of an arrow. (depending on distance and circomstances of course). Yoerg often shoots arrows through a coconut in ballistic gel while your knife's penetration is limited to the length of its blade.
The moment you brought up "spoons in medieval combat" I just knew you would go there. Alan Rickman, ave atque vale!
Shad!!! On a video where to talk about eating utensils and you even say “I’m going to go eat something”. *that’s the perfect segway to a Hello Fresh sponsor segment!!!!*. Normally I skip through the sponsor segments on RUclips, Shad being a rare exception, but oddly enough I’m actually disappointed that this video isn’t sponsored
You need to use the alchemy/enchanting loop exploit if you want to maximize the lethality of your utensils
I can only say "Forkgive Me"
If you don't know what I mean look up Spiffing brit's skyrim videos. All I am going to say here is over 32 Million damage on a fork
My latest character does 16 damage with a fork, no resto looping needed. Plenty enough for wolves and common bandits.
Reanu Keeves approves.
The homage to Alan Rickmans Sheriff of Nottingham was the chef's kiss of this banger of a video.
one thought that comes to mind for medieval cutlery in a combat situation with a larger foe could be sheer blood loss. if you are fast enough to dodge/evade incoming attacks and have openings for a cut or stab every now and then even non lethal ones could lead a quite a few few wounds that would all be bleeding. And well all foes only have so much blood to lose
Well Shad,after this one, you should look up,the adventures of the legendary Knight Johannes Wickendius and his,alleged, encounter with 3 bandits, 1385, in the forests of Westphalia ,who were threatening to dishonour a jung lady and he killed them,all three of them, allegedly, with a quill!
Yes that's right, he killed three bandits with a freaking quill!
I'm mean who does that! 😲😲
@TheAncientAstronomer so he was the OG John Wick?
This sounds very cool, but I can't find anything about it online?
@@cutenerd1177 Going by the name, looks like it! 😁
@@clarisesilver1931 Well allegedly, he was a member of a secret knightly order,so information are very scarce about him!
Or his order for that matter.
Apparently though, they had taverns, were they would gather and discuss the daily assignments.
Shad, throughout your sword videos you go on a lot about reach. I think I remember in one of your videos you talked about the disadvantage of reach for a sword, and this may be one of those situations.
If you have a short knife, you have no reach, but if you get close enough to easily stab your opponent with that knife, you are now so close that the reach of a sword is practically useless. Of course the sword wielder still has the guard and pummel to attack with, but you have a knife that is in very dangerous proximity of your opponent's body.
Also, I think hitting the lung might not be the best option, especially on a monster. It could eventually kill the creature, but that would take several minutes to happen. Maybe stab in as many places as possible!
That depends on the scale of the injury. If it's only one lung, it wouldn't really be that deadly, at least, not unless the wound would be quite large. If it's both lungs though, and to a degree that the lungs stop functioning properly, the effect can be almost instant as the huge glutton for oxygen that is the brain would quickly start shutting down functions from lack of it. It doesn't matter that it would take several minutes for a beast to die if it couldn't properly see or maintain balance after a few dozens of seconds, or maybe even lose consciousness.
Furthermore, any decrease in oxygen intake will noticeably slow down and weaken a creature as oxygen is necessary for production of energy. If you're low on energy, you're not going to be able to use your full strength and speed. As such, puncturing a lung will always increase your chances against a creature that attacks you in a short time, even without taking into consideration whether it is lethal or not (it doesn't need to be, by the way).
@@kikixchannel watch some hunting videos
@@josephnebeker7976 There's no need. It all boils down literally to whether or not you manage to affect the lungs job at getting the oxygen into the blood stream. This may or may not work depending on a number of factors that may seem totally random, buf if you are fighting a large beast with a knife that cannot get you a quick kill, 'gambling' on this is much better than trying to kill by a thousand cuts.
It is a biological fact that lowering the oxygen in the blood stream is going to lower the faculties and strength of the individual, all the way up to loss of consciousness. It is also a biological fact that lungs purpose is doing that, and that heavy activity (like fighting) demands higher oxygen intake, meaning that the lungs are under greater stress and more subject to any failure.
What is also a fact, however, is that if you just pierce the lung with an arrow or a bullet, it may not actually cause said lung to stop functioning (nor lessen its ability to function, not considerably), so your argument to watch 'hunting videos' is quite pointless on that note alone. A small circular hole after a bullet, or a hole that is plugged by an arrow, is a vastly different thing than a long cut that was probably torn while the knife was inside and was pulled. Hence why the effect on the speed of the process is different.
This IS why I talked about both lungs AND that they need to stop functioning properly. It is NOT a granted if they are pierced. Countless people were saved with no lasting effects exactly because a lot of damage to lungs does not need to have severe effect and can be saved from with proper treatment (and there's enough time to actually do it). What these have in common though was that most of them were not caused by somebody using their full strength with the intention of screwing your lung up as much as they could.
@@kikixchannel watch some hunting videos.
@@josephnebeker7976 Hah...If that's the maximum level at which you can discuss, then it's just a waste of time.
I used to have a barbarian character who had a hidden knife holster in the braziers; that knife was a very effective weapon and could be carried in social circumstances where you couldn't take his Giant size mega sword. That knife was almost deadlier than that giant sword because it was so cumbersome and complicated to land hit, even though it did enormous damage.
I write books, shows, etc. and design games in my spare time, with hopes for sustaining myself on it in the future.
In one of the games I've been designing, there's this boss which is a giant, and he has a massive health pool. He has a mechanic where, from when he first takes damage and about 30 seconds (could be changed later) into the fight from that point, if you haven't been able to kill him yet, he winds back time on himself, to where he stood, his condition, etc. from just before he started taking damage (slightly akin to Ekko's ultimate in League of Legends).
This means you either have to do a lot of damage fast, either by setting up a lot of traps, delayed spells, etc., deal massive damage through stats and hitting him in critical areas, or... you can throw weapons in the area he will respawn, timing it to when he "re-spawns", such that he spawns with the weapons/items inside him, for massive damage (possibly killing him in one blow by getting something big in his brains).
I would be happy to take Shad's or anyone's critique on this.
The waffle house has found it's new host
right? xD
NOOOOOOO!!!!!! Not here!!!!
Yeah, I kept thinking about the Prince of Thieves as soon as you brought out the spoon. It's a very memorable line.
[Sees title]
My mind: Ah yes, I shall shank thee with my royal spork! Have at you!
Ah yes, Skyrims finest weaponry, "Knife-to-meet-you" and "Fork-give-me"
Up to 3:50..yes a little knife, can be all you really need. Chopped and/or sliced veggies and/or meat, in a soup/stew, easily is both meal and beverage. Spear and eat the chunks, and slurp up the liquid..from what ever dish you are using. Simple and easy. The perfect all-in-one tool.
One thing a lot of people tend not to consider is that an adventurer isn't going to be marching 24/7. Assuming you are travelling, you'd likely spend 8-10 hours or so actually travelling at best, then set up camp and then... What is your adventurer doing once camp is set up and food is good and maybe they are on watch? One common thing mentioned in various series is whittling. You in a forest? Grab some wood while searching for kindling and whatnot for that fire, then start whittling away. Which means you likely need a knife to do so. That knife might have other uses as well. But regardless, I think it is important to come up with something for your adventurer to want to do in their downtime. Read books, whittle, do some tailoring/sewing/embroidering, etc. And think about what sort of extra gear they'd need to do so. And what uses you could have for that gear.
A weird hobby I once gave a druid I made was pulling stuff. Carts, wagons, whatever. She loved to pull stuff along the road. Her animal companion also loved to pull stuff, and the 2 would sort of fight over who got to pull the cart/wagon. This led to a bunch of campaign changes from the DM in how he approached stuff, and changes in my gear prioritization. The DM changed to making stuff like foraging or getting supplies more important, because we had way higher carrying capacity because wagon, but also it led to us thinking about how we'd deal with the wagon when going somewhere we couldn't bring it like into dungeons. The wagon even had a little shrine for my druid on it, and I would put effort doing things to make pulling the wagon easier or making it look fancier. I had to consider how to actually pull it since I was an aasimar and my animal companion was a chocobo-like creature, and the 2 of us would not be using the same methods to pull (you'd need a harness for the bird, while I would need something to push or pull like a wooden bar in front). Was fun, thinking about how to integrate that wagon into stuff. How to get it to locations, what to do in dungeons, etc. Let us get way more aggressive in looting since we could just strip all the bandits naked and sell all their gear and stuff (dm ended up ruling we got like, 1/10th normal sell price for such gear just to keep us from getting disgustingly rich immediately, and he actually had to be careful giving enemies even masterwork gear).
Pare & prick!
A pare is the small butter knife sized knife you kept showing Shad.
This pare is normally paired with a single or 2 prong prick which is a small spike used like a fork to eat.
Pare, prick, simple spoon & simple bowl that is basically complete eating kit before industrialization began in the 17th century in western Europe.
Mind some didn't even have a bowl eating of trencher a type of bread eatable (tableware) in the past not really used today.
Though trenchers were used even my nobility to pretend at false piety for the most part but of a finer grain quality et cetera.
There was a video from Aus east coast a couple months ago where someone was stabbed in the throat and was dead within 15 seconds or so. You could see the jets of blood.
I was honestly expectin' a hello fresh add that entire time and was surprises when it never came lol
I would love for the next video to be Shad reviewing the weapons of Death from the new Puss in boots movie
My grandparents had what they called grapefruit spoons. They were regular spoons with one side edged like a table knife. Not super sharp, just sharp enough to cut the flesh part of the fruit. But if you really wanted too, you probably cut cut someone eventually
In the Blackadder series 1 episode 2, the King is victorious in battle, "...Thanks to my trusty fruit knife!"
The spoon might be more effective if you sharpen the handle and hold it by the scoop end--basically a wooden pick or stiletto. That sounds like something an adventurer would do. Some enterprising craftsman might even sell 'venture spoons' with long handles and hardened honed tips for exactly that purpose.
large knives such as the bowie kukri and seax are very suitable for adventurers since they will do really well in a frontier type context
The small side knife reminds me of the traditional Western Finnish dagger Puukko (Härmän Puukko) from 19th century. Still manufactured these days for hunters or mainly as a dress accessory.
Awsome topic Shad, thanks !
The way you are holding the fork locked on the sword i just pictured you halfswording like that XD.
Glad to have a classic video, hope it gets far more views than 15k.
If you had to fight some one who had a sword with a knife there are two schools of thought:
A) Try to enter a grapple (preferably by flanking them while they are engaged with some one else). In a grapple the swords length becomes a liability, and the knife's shortness an asset.
B) Run; He's got a sword!
Either way NEVER try to "fence" them with your knife. If there is no safe way to enter a grapple, end the fight some other way. Now on to spoons, there is an additional spoon material you neglected to mention, cow horn. Townsends youtube channel has a whole video on it but if your last name is Horner, your forefathers made spoons and combs.
Also depends bit culture as common "puukko" knife has quite big part in Finninsh culture so it is not suprice that you can find them in Finnish games and also in some video games...
If anyoneremembers game called Silent Storm, Axis campaing you can have Finnish Grenadier in your team and has puukko with him and I think it might be unique item in that game...
“You can never have too many knives.”
-Logen Ninefingers, also know as Bloody Nine, one the main characters in Joe Abercrombie's book The Blade Itself
The doctor sword fighting with a spoon was a reference to the first episode of David Tennant's doctor where he wanted to see if his new hands were sword fighting hands
So in one of the campaigns I played in one of my friends saved a bunch of nobles at a royal gathering (I can't remember the full context). Because of that he was knighted and gained the title of the Dinner Knight.
A curette is a medical spoon used (for example) to cut out tumours. There are numerous wart-removal videos on RUclips using a curette, if you're so inclined.
Shad. Bravely exploring the questions we all need answers for.
Aragorn had a utility knife on his scabbard, i think scottish dirks often have a pair with smaller eating knife on scabbard of larger, Todd did a video on medieval knife and pricker sets, pricker being single point, there was aroman fork that was part of the roman swiss army knife.
Huge fan of the kit you got going on on this video
I personally explain damage as placement of the hit. Take 5e, for instance. A rogue's sneak attack doing massive damage is indicative not of their weapon hitting harder, but of them being able to land more precise hits thanks to moments of opportunity (Lungs, armpit etc). So while a dagger can be as lethal as a sword, it's ability to land that lethal blow in combat lands it a lesser damage dice.
However, I utilise Coup de grace for my games; if a player finds themselves in a position where their target is truly helpless (E.g., subject to a magical binding like hold person) and there are no other threats present? They could outright kill their target with anything that makes sense.
For instance, you've got some gang member tied to a chair for interrogation. When you're done, you could- as evil as it would be- simply take that little knife and open their throat up. They can't stop you. However, in combat that same knife wouldn't have nearly the same opportunity to kill.
Fork could be used as a point for a spring trap to kill small game, or stab an enemy foot in an alarm style camp trap.
You could use your trusty sling to hurl said eating implements at creatures from range when rocks and sling stones are at a premium. (no adventurer should leave home without the much youtube hated and maligned sling).
And the fork could be useful for grabbing some truly caustic sample (like an acid trolls flesh) either for study, as a weapon, or bounty proof without ruining your true weapons.
Shad, love this. Though as a military man in that position if my blade ain't quick to hand I screwed up, it should always be easy and fast to hand. But think about in a tavern the fork or knife right threw a hand to pin to a table. For big beasties grapple and right in the the throat open up the arteries and the air pipe a lot better than having to use once teeth
Ohhh cool two new videos! I didnt even get the notifications 😒... Thanks for more content Shad!
Some historians say that one the major cause of death among Nordic nobility was fork like that when it was introdused here , as they used to stab themselves inside their mouth while eating as they were so drunk and used to eat with spoons and those wounds did get infected...
There is a book called Dragon Knight by Donita K Paul with a little mouse character who had taken on being somebody's bodyguard. Beginning of book she's not taken at all seriously. End of the book she is the key point in taking down a dragon by climbing up it's leg, sticking her sword in back of its knee, and holding on.
As soon as you said fighting with cutlery "Ill cut your heart out with a spoon!" came to mind
Something I'd love to see Shad cover would be the melee weapons of Devil May Cry. It would be utterly hilarious to see his takes on the super ridiculous weapons like Cerberus or Cavalier. Hell, seeing him just break down the designs of the more simple weapons like Rebellion or Force Edge would still be very entertaining.
I’m reminded of the Blue Raja, master of cutlery, from the movie Mystery Men.
My man has shown me the way of medieval fighting. Thank you, man, for these lessons. Sometimes weird like this but yea lol
Imagine someone showing up from a treasure haul from a recent adventure, proudly showing off a masterwork metal shield, single edged sword, a long handled shovel, and a trident bundled up in linen and normally carried on a pack mule.
Later, a pounding at the door by a giantess scullery maid demanding the return of the stolen kitchenware. (Giant sized platter, fork, knife, and spoon, wrapped in a linen napkin.)
I guess I'll have to watch Prince of Thieves. I've been making that spoon threat joke as long as I remember and never knew a movie beat me to it.
Very happy to see this video and an inteesting thought occured to me as you were decribing how each weapon could be used.
The better your martial arts skill the more likely you would be able to do something with those utensils that could be deadly or at least give you an upper hand against humoinods for sure but potentially anything you know the anotmany for.
I know at least a lot of modern based nitjsu has simular things they do where as they are grappling you there is a ninja star in the hand to be able to cut you or maybe drop you onto ot as part of the move a good location like a core muscle or tendon would cause someone a lot of trouble in the future fight and some preadtors even hunt that way with classics like a hamstring attack the the prey cant tun and is not as mobile.
So i can see a lot of potential in the knife for sure, the most common of them.
The spoon surpisngly there are some good bits an often ungaurded section of most armour is the throat if during a grapple or pass though manuver you could take a solid jab at someones throat well that would cause some damage.
And if the hands are not protected during a wrist based grapple rap the hands with a spoon and you have the chance the person will have to drop the weapon.
The fork one more prong or spork like could do a lot of damage but there is a lot of risk to it.
But all of these ideas are best used with martial arts manuaevers over basic sword play manuvers they would have some cross over but the advantage would be to the martial arts weilder i belivie.
But there is defiantly more potential use out of them than i would have given it credit for.
Thank you for answering the Nottingham question
In The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim, there are forks and knifes as miscellaneous items in many places, but there are some places you find find ones that are usable as weapons. The easiest way to find both is to purchase and upgrade the house in Riften. They will be on the table on your balcony
Saw a carton of half and half and thought it said “hand and a half”. Almost thought I’ve been watching too many sword videos but then I realized there’s no such thing as too many sword videos.
I came to ensure spoons were properly addressed, and I am happy to say they were.
You should make an "Understimated arms and armor" Episode abot slings
Ya it can be tricky to decide how damage should work in a game. Love these kind of thought experiments, their my favorite kind of videos.
Really depends on how in depth and granular the systems in the game are.
The simplest and fastest way that I've seen is in Dark Souls, where daggers have a unique animation when used as a weapon during backstabs and ripostes. Usually doing equal or more damage than the strongest weapon your character can wield.
The most accurate but still video gamey method would be making daggers a weapon type and skill that you can level up. Having a high Dagger skill will make the gamplay and combat of daggers much more practical viable by using that weapon type's strengths. Get into a grapple and pull out the dagger and stab your opponent killing them in seconds. Compared to having a low Dagger skill where the only thing you can do is swing it around and stab with it like you would a sword and deal laughably little damage.
The most realistic is in VR like Blade & Sorcery.
You can cross fork and knife, with the knife's blade sticking between the teeth of the fork, and make a not completely silly implement to control your opponent's sword. At least, it'd be less silly than trying to catch the sword between the teeth of the fork. It's still very silly.
I'm reminded of skallagrimS weird weapons video with the cutlery guns. Those also have the advantage of not being full of moster blood next time you want to eat. Gunpowder remains are probably easier to clean and less toxic.
All ingredients in blackpowder are edible is small quantities (Charcoal, saltpeter, sulphur) so some residue wouldnt hurt.
Heck, the commonly believed origin is a chiense cook that wanted immortality tried mixing an elixir and made boom powder instesd.
Feels like a missed opportunity for HellFresh to sponsor. "This video is sponsored by HelloFresh. How to eat this delicious meal from Hellofresh you ask? With somewhat time accurate cutlery of course"
Totally. I was watching and ready to pounce and skip the ad section.
Don't tell me HelloFresh dropped sponsoring him?
i heard sir jonathan of house wick once killed 3 dragons in a tavern with a quill.
Alan Rickman is my all time favourite actor. I was sad he'd died but think of all the misery he's missed out on that's happened since then. I'm glad my grandparents are gone for the same reason. I have to see Rose and Larry through.
I beat a railroad spike into a knife for my medieval eating dagger, really easy to do.
@Shad : You could use a grapefruit spoon... the serrations would make stabbing easier. You could use it as a slashing weapon as well.
Love the new background, Shad
I surely dont want my daggers blood on my food, but a bit of food in my enemies wound? Now thatll leave a scar, especially with the right hot sauce!
Shad, my buddies and I tested spoons back in highschool because of that line- needless to say he has a crescent shaped scar on his forearm now. It just takes a LOT of pressure to get a spoon to cut flesh.
I think a good idea for a video would be best medieval gear and strategy for cave fighting. Many fantasy monsters live in caves and tunnels.