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Tutor Sessions exist! The wording in the later part of the video is perhaps a bit sloppy. I always had sessions in my physics curriculum, but this only applied to the major subjects. Big courses usually have a "Zentralübung", where a professor solves some problems in front of the class, and a "Tutorübung", in which a fellow student or PhD goes over the homework problems in a class of 20-30 people.
There are also now several restaurants on campus located in the Galileo that offer late-afternoon / dinner dining.
In this video I present reasons why you should perhaps not study at TUM. After attending the Technical University of Munich for my undergraduate and graduate studies, I have experienced both the pros and cons of being there.
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In Europe the student dormitories are in principle not on the campus. That exists only in America. And you usually have to travel by public transport.
Uk, Italy Finland other countries also have campus dorms.
@@aibasei3254 I didn't know that, thanks for the information. But what I want to say is that Germany isn't exception. In Europe the universities are mostly in the big city centers. That means the dormitories should also be somewhere around in the city.
@@alex-em4em yes, you are right actually I ve heard that it's trouble to find an apartment or wc there. Especially in munich. )
@@aibasei3254 exactly, WCs are probably the only you'd be able to afford in munich, WGs are way too expensive
It's usual for dorms to be on campus not only America, but it could be off K if there's a distance from main campus kind of limit
As a european highschooler these informations about TUM weren't new. But now I learned a lot of differencies about the US universities
Heading to check out the campus this summer. I'm 36 and going back for a masters there, so excited!
Same here. 32 and going this year for phd ❤ see you there
Hi can I contact you using your public link here? Im 35 and find my bachelor's to be too old for TUM??
Hey A. C. It was a great inside view of your perspective as an international student ( I assume, I hope I didn´t misunderstand). As someone who studies architecture on the TUBs (Technical University of Brunswick) it was interesting to hear about other places and how they are different.
Actually there is a student pub at Garching Forschungszentrum which is open late hour and even sells food. Its called C2 and is located at the canteen building.
You're correct, I used to go there back in the early days. I wonder if it is still open. It's the difficulty of getting things 100% correct in a video, the popular places where people eat are still closed late afternoon I believe.
@@ac_insights Oh very nice! So yeah, it actually is still open but we are struggling a little with our PR.. so definitely not you to blame. With the new galilio building at campus a couple of new regular reastaurants even added which are also open later than the canteen:) Campus life could still be better though, so that part is true^^
lecture actually means "the reading" too
The reson not to study there is that the research staff is not incentivised to teach. They usually do the bare minimum but still deliver hard exams. I had exams where I filled out only 1/3 and still got a 3.0 GPA because they had to adjust the grade so much. In the US teaching is actually enjoyable.
Just finished my first semester at TUM. Having no student dorms shocked me the most. After some time you get used to the commute.
Wow, congrats! The feeling it mutual, I also needed some time to adjust haha
I wanna study there I'm already used to 3 hours in a bus😅
how much do you pay for rent if you dont mind answering ?
A lot of the points you point out don't only aplly to TUM but to all/most universities in Germany.
Though if you want to have of a practical approach and a lecture where the lecture is more between a seminar and a (school) lesson it's smarter to go to a Hochschule. However most if the programms tbere are in German.
By the way it's normally required for international students to know German at a B1/B2 level so they can be sure that you are able to navigate live in Germany.
A university is also a Hochschule. What you specifically mean is a Fachhochschule, which is also a Hochschule and thats why they often call themselves Hochschule, it sounds nicer^^
The term Fachhochschule was changed to Hochschule and Hochschule is now Universität... although in English, Fachhochschulen are now known as Universities of Applied Science....
Looking forward to study there
Brilliant!
I was expecting this
Hi, Thanks for the video, i have question, do they offer online program in master and phd, if not, can i study home and go only for exams ?
Hi Ashraf, I do not know if TUM offers fully online degrees now. However, during Covid, all courses were online. So I think that the university has definitely improved their online supply and infrastructure since then. Many lectures are recorded and can be watched online too, but I know from experience that this is not always the case for every subject.
I wanna study a master at TUM but I'm scared about the aptitude assessment
How much students for 1 teacher? Is teachers help or just reading lectures? Is there an example video of how learning process happening, lecture or something else?
It really depends on the course. In some courses (especially during masters) there can be 1 professor for 10 students. Other courses (especially the large general courses in undergrad) can have 1 professor and 2-3 assistants for over 500 people. However, these larger courses also oftentimes offer tutor sessions and a central tutoring lecture. It also depends on what major you study. Physics by nature has e.g. less students overall than engineering, so the avg. course size is much smaller. Hope this can help!
@@ac_insights Thanks a lot for such insightful answer! Could you please clarify, how tutor session is different to usual lecture? It is some kind of elective?
Isnt Point 4 really something that fits most german Universities?
Brit here. I have learned more out of RUclips than my TUM lectures. Profs are amazing at research (probably) but you won’t learn anything here. Everything that matters is the exam at the end of the semester.You’re completely on your own. I myself got tricked by the word "education quality“
I feel TUM advertises itself as "excellent“. That’s a clever marketing strategy but nothing more I’d say.
What did you study? I would pass nothing if I just watch RUclips videos
I hope LMU does it better.
Hello sir , don’t you have any instagram so that we can share our questions in a more elaborated context
Is mechanical engineering taught in English at TUM ?
The only point I don't agree with you on concerns the courses. At TUM, we have various types of courses, such as lectures, seminars, tutorials, and so on. Seminars, in particular, usually have a maximum of 20-30 participants. Moreover, lectures with accompanying tutorials are highly effective and provide support through weekly tutorial sessions with a maximum of 10 people.
can you please write the name of state funded, reduced rent housing facilities you mentioned that give international students priority? any links or tips for that please?
I aggree
thanks and i can agree to all! I would never choose again tum
Is biology good here at TUM and how are other universities for bio , the less expensive cities maybe
TUM and LMU are both great places for Biology as far as I am concerned. I do not have any experience with other universities in Germany, so I can't say how much other programs differ.
Could you do a video on the mim program at tum?
Unfortunately, that is out of my scope because I have no direct experience with that program nor do I know anyone that was part of it. Since I am a physics major, I am planning to upload more physics content soon. Hope this helps!
Hello!! I was just wondering the courses they offer at TUM are in english??(Is there any additional fees for studying in english other than german?)
Also Im an IGCSE student so what are the required grades to enter the university (still deciding on cyber security or computer science as a major)
no, all are german for undergrad
They have few bachelors in English (I think 3-5) but I believe that if you don't have a German high school diploma u need to do studienkolleg; so in the end you will still need German for your bachelor there
How was the master degree in TUM?
Is it hard to get into TUM? Do you need to have a really high grades, compete in multiple competitions for certificate in high school to get in?
That depends on the subject. Some subjects are quite difficult to get into, while others are easy to get into. You can find the exact admissions processes on the websites for each corresponding program. It is always beneficial to have some certifications that prove your interest, but I do not believe it is required.
@@ac_insights Can you tell me what was your stats/what you did in high school to get into TUM? Organization, grades, certificate, etc. I'm an international student interested to study mechatronics for bachelor in Germany due to financial reasons
On the website there should be requirements for each study program that tell you what grade you need. For some programs you don't need a certain grade at all. If you match the requirements you should be good.
And I didn't have any extra special things to present in my application. Just my final high school grade. I don't know if you can study Mechatronics in English but if not German skills are required obviously
Hello,
Which is more prestigious between LMU AND TUM?
That totally depends! Both TUM and LMU are very good universities according to rankings in Germany. But some subjects can only be studied at one university. If you want to study law e.g., you can only do that at LMU. If you want to study engineering, only at TUM. The physics program is great at both universities, with both schools sharing buildings and collaborating at some of the MPI research institutes. So it's up to you!
Why don’t students live around the Garching campus to avoid commute and are there no tutorial sessions accompanying a lecture?
There are some modern student dormitories in Garching city, which is about 2km south of Garching-Campus. It definitely exists, but the vast majority of students still live in Munich city and choose to commute. The reasons vary, but I would assume wanting a more active city lifestyle (not much going on in Garching), luck finding an apartment, and closer proximity to the city center.
Regarding tutorial sessions, I always had sessions in my physics curriculum, but this only applies to the major subjects. Big courses usually have a "Zentralübung", where a professor solves some problems in front of the class, and a "Tutorübung", in which a fellow student or PhD goes over the homework problems in a class of 20-30 people. This depends on the subject, however.
In addition to what A. C. Cook already said, the prices in Garching are comparable to central Munich because of its vicinity to the campus. So you pay overpriced appartment rents to live in a small village.
I heard tum has an assessment test for ms program and if you fail you have to go back to your home country. Also is 2.1 grade in german scale ok to.get admission here?
That depends on the program you are applying to. The TUM does not really publish admission statistics, but most programs have several admission guidelines you can orientate yourself around.
@@ac_insights thanks for the info man. I don't think I will be able to get admission here with my grades and lack of experience should have studied harder.
@@ZulkaifAhmed1Don’t know about TU München, but usually the cut off grade for pursuing a masters degree is 2,5 here in Germany.
Yes it is informative nd something different who no one covers, I genuinely want to talk to you personally, please allow me this opportunity to talk to you!
Hey guys, I'm up for the masters in Sports and Exercise program, so in which place of munich does its department situated.
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Great content, man. It is easy to get accepted, dozens of students, insufficient facilities. TUM is like an open uni. I guess TUM does not provide real university experience. It is just easiest way to come to Europe for international students. Most master's students are just struggling with finding job after graduation. Probably, new tuition fees will be applied by Winter semester 23/24.
Overall, TUM still is a very good university. I made a second video in which I detail what is great about studying here. But everything has pros and cons of course. I would not say it does not provide a "real" university experience, it does for sure. But it is Germany and subject specific. I enjoyed my time at TUM.
From where you got know about the tuition fees implementation?
I think you Americans have simply a different idea of college, where you pay a ton of money and you request a certain high standard treatment (accomodation, food, lectures and labs ecc.)
But in Europe Universities are basically all like it was described in this video: the level of lectures is still high but there is no such things as dormitories.
I've been studying at Politecnico di Milano for 4 years and I commute for about 2 and a half hours each day, just like many other friends. The alternative: find a house by yourself, spoiler: you will probably still need to use public transport unless you are lucky
It really depends on the student if you want a university life, you can create it within TUM, but it all depends on you and how social person you are. And I don’t agree with you, it is definitely not easy to graduate. Except in corona times, everyone graduated very easily because of online exams.
Hey, I heard that TUM is increasing its tuition fees for masters programmes. Do you know anything about this?
I tried to find news about this, but was unsuccessful. According to my research, the new university reform of 2020 makes tuition fees for all non-EU foreign citizens a legal possibility. However, it has not been implemented so far.
www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/freising/studenten-tum-fachschaft-studieren-hochschulreform-energiepreise-freising-1.5670867
Too late
Hey, I'm disabled, Is there good support system to survive at university as well as Munich? My application is under assesment right now, but need to know prior any decisions. 🥶
So this is not my field of expertise, but I have found a link from the TUM website that might help you out: www.tum.de/en/studies/support-and-advice/wellbeing/studying-with-a-disability
@@ac_insights Thank You, will check it out. Keep making more videos, they are helpful!! 🤝🏻
Hey! How hard is it to get into Bachelors of Management and Technology at TUM. Like, what kind of grades are required and a general view of the application process for the major. Also, please tell after submitting the appl., in, how much time do they respond to it? Thanks.
Management and Technology at TUM has a NC (GPA limit), but it changes every year as far as I am concerned. More info can be found here under www.tum.de/en/studies/degree-programs/detail/management-and-technology-bachelor-of-science-bsc
@@ac_insights Right now, the admission category is showing as "Aptitude Assessment for Bachelor" and not "Numerus Clausus". Can u tell me the difference explicitly? Like, are the grade aspect neglected completely? Thanks for the help!!
What language is used in lecturing at TUM? Germany or english?? I would to take Executive MBA program. Please tell me more.
Hi Nadia,
Many TUM masters degrees are completely taught in English! You can find the respective language requirements for each program under this link:
www.tum.de/studium/bewerbung/master
What the all requirements to get into TUM bachelors ?how to connect to you ?i am planning to take physics for my bachelors
I am a third semester physics major. If you havent already started with it then I can tell you there are no requirerments except for a highschool graduation. There is no NC at all but that´s why the first 2 semesters can be hell if you arent a genius.
I'm trying for masters in automation and robotics TUM, my bachelor's is in electrical engineering and I have a GPA of 3.54 and I'm under process of writing a research paper but I'm little concerned that even though if i get into TUM can I survive the German standards especially a top university and i did my bachelor's in a normal uni, i have this thought for a long time now 😅
Omg, the same situation 😭 I don't know can I bear it or not. And also I watched some Indian guys from utube who told that its impossible to finish in 2 years msc. Did you applied?
@@aibasei3254 I'm graduating in 2023 and my dad told me to apply in 2024 so I'll get some time to learn some skills and I know a guy who's currently in TUM, he says it's possible to complete but we need to have extreme patience and he's graduating this year he cleared all his subjects and has a job offer too. So it'll be a lot difficult but I don't think it's impossible. Did you apply to any German universities? Let me know if you did
@@mugiwara5375 hii, yes i applied to tum. nowadays I am waiting the result. Cool, then by hard working we can ace.
@@mugiwara5375 I should mention that I graduated 2.5-3 years ago. And i applied several times. But didnt won scholarship that is why i rejected my submission. Hope this time will be successful.
@@aibasei3254 they're not charging any tution fee so even though without scholarship I think it's a bit easy to manage compared to many universities in US they charge a LOT, that's why I'm more interested in German unis and also it's a hub for electrical and mechanical right
Hy Alex, can we connect via emai or any other social media where we can talk
Absolutely, you can contact me under my channel instagram, the link can be found in the channel description page!
so basically, what you said was just rexplaining how 90% of university works i germany. Nothing new tbh lol.
I certainly learned a lot about the american university system.
It's not fair all the hate this is getting, and this is coming from a TUM defender. I understand why some people would get angry but if the video was called "... if you have studied in US before" or something like that.
but never forget that the tum is a lot better than the lmu.
why?
Where did you do your undergrad? and why did you choose germany for grad school instead if america?
I went to TUM for both undergrad and graduate school! I chose TUM for grad school because if you complete your undergraduate degree in physics at TUM, you are automatically admitted to the Master's program. Also, the separate Master's degree allows for more flexibility (graduate programs in the US e.g. usually last 5 years, after which you receive PhD). Since I was not sure whether I wanted to pursue a PhD at the time, I opted to get my Master's degree instead. This could be a topic for another video actually!
You can watch what my undergraduate degree covered in this video here: ruclips.net/video/_wi3knRfhA4/видео.html
@@ac_insights I was actually looking at tum! but the only problem was I couldnt get direct admissions with my american hs diploma even tho i had a very good gpa and sat. I wouldve had to do prep school or 5 or 6 ap credits thats why I didnt follow through
Ich hab jetzt mehr Interesse an die Uni lol
I think u should drop ur social handle
Social handle dropping very soon!
It is now possible to reply to my official Instagram account, the link is on the channel page.
@@ac_insights so how am I gonna contact you then
You can send me a DM!
Wow😂. Talk about all the petty reasons to not study at the best university in Germany for engineering 😂😂
Hi Alex , I am poushali from India. Just finished watching your video , cause I was searching course in TUM. It was helpful. I am looking for MSC in Computer science. I have really no point of contact or the process like which exam to be taken or criteria for admission. Can I contact you through any other social media. It will be really great help
You can message me on my instagram account, the link should be on the about page on my channel here. Happy to help!
hey poushali, did you decide on TUM for your Msc? if yes can you drop your point of contact as I am taking admission at TUM and need a few queries to be solved...thank you!
Anyone ever wondered why English, Irish, Scottish, Singaporean, HK etc students hardly ever pursue Masters degrees in English at TUM? Even though a Masters at TUM costs a fraction of the cost they would incur in their home countries, they still prefer to pursue their Masters degree in their home country or in one of the counties mentioned above.
Just wondering...