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Brilliant content Jayem What is old F129? And please speak a bit slowly Jayem you have an international following, some of us from Asia who are not English native may not understand if you speak so fast like this video Thank you for another spectacular series on the F430
Thank you for clarifying Jayem Always remember there’s more of us in Asia who are you followers than UK and USA, of course it’s not a competition 😜 Can’t wait to see your next episode
Jay I worked for Ferrari in Sydney and can assure you that the "snow/ice" button does get used even in the Australian climate. It's used as follows. When a Ferrari owning couple got to dinner or a function involving liquid refreshments and the male Ferrari owner has over indulged he would ask his good lady to drive home. He would then press the snow/ice button. It starts the car off from rest in 2nd gear and upshifts before things get hectic. In essence turning it into a low powered car. None the wiser the good lady would be proud of her management of the Ferrari. This practice was so common that the snow/ice button is known in the Ferrari owners club as the "wife button".
This was the car for me then & it still is now. Probably the one that got me into cars in the first place - being 24 now, I was 10 when these were in their prime. The F430 spyder epitomises Ferrari for me; screaming V8, modern yet timeless style - finished in red with the cream interior is just 10/10.
@@usman1alam I owned a 355 for about 10 years, a spider. While gorgeous, they have the build quality of a Yugo, so you need to temper your fantasies as they are very highly strung and a handful to deal with.
Great cars, loved my F430 coupe, more so than the 458 Italia I had subsequently. More mechanical, more visceral and more fun. Brilliant video, sums up the car brilliantly.
Are they just more expensive now or something? Description mentions 70 thousand pound but I can only find recent sales in the range of over 100 thousand. Big gap
I own a similar F430 Spider F1 in Blue Pozzi and I adore it. Indeed the last analoge car Ferrari built, superb handling and ride. Brakes (ceramic though) are excellent. Steering is great, not the best attribute though. But the F430 exceeds in daily practice in every circumstance. Highway, city driving, cross-country or the Alps. We drove it many times from The Netherlands to Southern France or Italy on holiday and it can manage every situation. Just super!!!
Probably still my favorite V8 Ferrari to this date, it was brand new when I was just hitting my teens and sounds and looks stunning and you can get manual. A grail
I took my Spider to the Alps last year and to my absolute surprise it started rev matching on the downshifts when I was 'on it' and it's not done it since. You can do it manually and I frequently do but the Alps - what an experience. I test drove a California T a few months ago and whilst I didn't hate it, it was an absolute relief to get back into my F430 with all the noise, the connection and the feel of a Ferrari. Every time I think of selling mine, I take it out for a drive...
Great video ... agree the F1 box on the F430 is decent ... and the F430 is underrated and really not that bad to run. The only issue I've had (other than eating ball joints) is a starter motor failure (which was a DENSO Japanese part) other than that it's been very reliable and thoroughly enjoyable. 12k miles in 5 years ... Longer journeys include, Le Mans x3, NC500 and this year Alps and various museums planned Cayman 987.2 for daily F430 for weekend 340R for special occasions
Jay - I test drove one of these yesterday and bought it on the spot. 2007 F430 Coupe in red. What a fantastic car. So much raw emotion when you get behind the wheel. I imagine this is every millennials dream car. Thanks for making this video. It helped with my decision :)
Awesome video as always. Apologies if someone else has already commented on this but I suspect the requirement to have the ignition on to be able to use the boot release toggle switch will have been a security thing, as opposed to being something they hadn’t revised/updated yet, as with your scuderia. If you left the car unattended with the roof down, and didn’t require the ignition to be on for the boot release, anyone would be able to help themselves to the release button and then the contents of the boot. 😊
Great Car. Sold mine a few months ago after 4 years. Really good mix of old and new Ferrari. Can still throw a big bill like older Ferrari’s so do your homework but very useable/exploitable as a road car and all the performance you will really need. Gearbox not as bad as people say, not great at slow speeds/manoeuvring no but works just fine once you’re moving. Running costs not crazy as long as you find a good one and stay on top of it. 🥰👌
One of these in a manual RHD are a bit of a unicorn. What a great summer car perfect for western australia with our world class level of sunny days. An absolute dream. Ripping mid engined ferrari v8...
Still driving my '08 manual spider F430 bought new. They were making only 16M's after my car so I probably have one of the newest plain spiders. I love it still. The 360's chassis was known internally as the 131 and the 430 as the 131Evo. Naturally my GT-R's number plate was 35 and my Ferrari's is 131. (The Bimmer is 39.) The key thing is that previous Ferraris needed timing belts changed every two years regardless of mileage, an engine-out ordeal, while the 430 has a chain. Likewise every other aspect is finally suitable for daily driving, including reliability. Only issue in 15 years was a wire harness line breaking, between the ECU and ignition switch unfortunately, but otherwise it's very durable and utterly reliable. You refer to it as fragile but I don't think so.
I've read very mixed comments on reliability from owners, some straight up saying they experienced "maintenance nightmares" with their F430s. Glad you were spared. I'm very intrigued by the Spider and would love to buy one over a Boxter GTS (new) but F1 versions are well over $100K in the States now and converted manuals are $125K and up. Unwanted attention aside, $3K minimum for services a year is also a bit of a deterrent. The noise is certainly beautiful though. Curious how firm the ride in these is?
@@gtsspeed2619 I'm almost positive about the two years thing: how long do you think the service interval was if not two years?? If it could be done through a hatch I stand corrected. I'm almost positive the 355 required an engine out for that, though, so maybe I'm just misremembering the 360.
@@lqr824355 yes engine out. Belts could be done at 3 years. Albeit this would be predicated on mileage. I owned a 360 spider manual. Enjoyed owning one of the best sounding cars ever. It was a great occasion car. I moved on to another great Spyder. But very few cars sound as good - at least with 8 cylinders or less.
I adore the F430, never understood the gripes about the looks, I think it looks stunning. For me, it looks exactly how the ‘baby’ Ferrari should; low, light, sleek but simple and understated.
Spot on review. I agree on the F1 box, the leather, and that this is an extremely attractive car at the price given you’ve got the cash to maintain it. Met one of my best friends in life on a ride in one of these. The F430 spider will always be one of my favorites!
Absolutely love it. Just got my 2006 F430 Spider from the Ferrari dealer in Boston with 15,000 miles on it two days ago and its absolutely amazing. I have a 2014 Bentley Continental V8S GTC and Aston Martin 2006 DB9 Volante and neither one of them are happy at the moment 🙂
For a road car, and not a competition car, the ability to drop the roof will always, always be preferable to any perceived benefit in rigidity gained by the coupe version - and I will die on that hill! Of course its as much fun as a Coupe...!
This is my favorite Ferrari, JayEmm. I was a kid when these premiered, and I always loved them. Everything you said is why I love it, and I’m so glad you did a vid on one. Greetings from Pennsylvania! 👍
Hi jay somedays ago i found your channel. This is the best car review channel i have ever seen. And your explaining voice is so smooth. It is just part of the experience for us and by the way neither i am a car enthusiast nor a journalist. I just really love sports car and supercars, these machines just make our day. Keep up the good work❤🎉
Another brilliant review, James. What a fabulous car! For some reason cars from the 90’s and early 00’s are just nicer than the modern varieties. You summed it up perfectly: Class.
If you want sound, take the precats out (which you should really do anyway). My advice is don't heel-toe the TCU won't have a clue what you're doing. The lack of downshift blip (at low revs) is due to a couple of things: - they are programmed to be smoother as the TCU (rightly, generally) thinks you're driving more leisurely - the exhaust valves will be closed. If you keep the valves open all the time, you'll probably hear more of a downshift blip even at lowish revs The 430 was designed to do both quiet and loud, which when it drones like a bitch with the valves left open, is a very welcome thing (imho)
You're so right about the tires. I bought my F430 in 2020 from first owner and it still had the original tires. Owner: yeah but it only has 11.000km! but your car feels like WOOD man!!. I put the michelin PS4S and it changed the game completely. Then I bought a Manual modena which had pirellis from 2010. Then I bought the 599 which had pirellis from 2013. What the f--- is wrong with ferrari owners! The cost of new tires compared to the safety and the feeling at the wheel, I just don't get it.
@@minatormyth so they don't exist then...? Anybody that is actually into cars wouldn't run years-old tyres on their snotter let alone a top-end sports car with +400bhp.
@@isthatujeebusey simpleton , were did I say no owner exists. I said no owner I have met or even know bought a ferrari just to brag about instead of driving. Don't give a f cuk about your rambling on about tyres, I responded to your assumption.
Thanks for this great video. I have been the owner of one those ( with the factiory carbone race seats option) for 8 years now, she gives me the same smile each time ! Can t decide to sale it
8:15 I have the ceramics (which was standard in Japan in 2008 along with the shield emblem). Remember they take an incredible 30kg+ off the unsprung weight, and while I've never driven one with steel socks I cannot imagine it doesn't make an improvement in ride. The brake pedal does however take some time to master: you push down to apply brakes, but merely relieve pressure (without actual motion, it seems) to modulate them. Its just tricky enough to learn that one feels smug for having done so.
You are correct it makes a massive difference. All the springs and damper rates along with the calibration for the e-diff and mannetino settings were developed for CCM’s. It is now known that they put the old steel brakes on in some markets to keep the MSRP down. I bought my car New and then when the steel discs and pads needed replacing I had the factory upgrade. Could not believe the difference. Until you have driven one on CCM’s you have a different car.
Get the Ferrari free-flow exhaust, specifically designed for the 430 and the car comes alive. Much better sound & the engine seems more responsive. Haven’t looked back!
Honestly? I prefer the 430. It looks better than the 458 in my opinion it doesn't have such I dunno a smiley face the 458 looks too clean too safe, it's not the 488 gtb which looks aggressive and angry! I like that, but the 458 I dunno I'm not a huge fan. Plus the 430 is the car that flew past me on the M1 when I was 5 and made me obsessed with fast cars, so there's nostalgia too. Would love to own a 430 hardtop but a spyder would be a dream.
If bullet points and comma splices were personified this is the guy. None the less hes raw, to the point and easy to watch compared to todays roadman 1000bhp civic reviewers. Ive watched his videos before buying cars.
If you prefer the feel of the metal paddles over the carbon ones in the Scud, you can always buy a set of OEM extended metal ones from the Challenge cars.
I'm so happy to have driven one of these on the Autobahn a few days ago 😁it may have been a coupe with an automatic, but driving it for an hour was worth every penny. Really glad the road was free with little to no traffic on that day. I'm actually surprised I could fit in at 6'4 or 194cm height and still had room for more.
I recall when the F430 was released. The energy and essence of the time with this car was one of amazement. It truly was a game changer for ferrari. Just go an watch Jeremy Clarkson review of it from back then. This was the ultimate mix of looks, ferrari dna and modern technology at a new level. I guess that's why it's still has this certain mystique for being an older ferrari.
"When this was made they were still a winning team" What a way to remind us tifosi how good they were and how horrid they are now, just before Monaco race week.
Fantastic review! Can confirm everything you said, though I own a Coupe. Have a Tubi exhaust which makes it a totally different car in terms of responsiveness. Got it installed after the “usual” header cracks and wanted to fix the issue for good. Also the sound improves quite a bit when valves are open. And imho it remains the most beautiful V8 to this day.
Such a great car, I loved both my 360 spider and 430 spider and value for money they were amazing compared with the later 458. Don’t get me wrong I loved my 458 but these are spot on. Go get one and put a smile on your face, don’t worry about the running costs they aren’t too bad. Just make your it’s been looked after and sort any little issues immediately and it will see you right. 🤟
Great video JAYEMM. I was almost tempted to laugh at the image of you,in the opening scene, and a few scattered throughout the video.With reflections bouncing off the windscreen,the cars engine revving,and you rocking about in the driver’s seat with the wind in your hair.You looked so animated.You seemed to be having so much fun,having a ball.You looked like a CGI of someone enjoying themselves in a Ferrari.I was tempted to chuckle a few times.Great video.I was surprised at how I never tired of your chatter,you were always pertinent and informative.And the sound of the Ferrari was something else.The way the countryside threatened to engulf the whole car,just from a view from the side panels,or mirrors was something I’ve never seen before.Congratulations on your video.Excellent job.Just even more footage of the Ferrari tearing up the countryside from the outside.
You are like the modern toad of toad hall blipping that throttle. I am not sure where you drive these cars but you must be a local legend. That why we love you
Fantastic cars which these days offer very good value for money when you look at the prices of classic Fords, BMW's and certain 911's. Harry Metcalf reviewed a lovely blue 430 Spyder with a manual gearbox a couple of years back which I loved the look of though the F1 box in the 430 seems to be a bit improvement on the one in the 360. I loved the looks of the 458 but not a fan of the steering wheel with all the buttons and controls on.
A friend of mine had one of these. It cost him $1/mile in maintenance not counting fuel, oil, tires, or insurance. When he sold it it had 32,000 miles (he put 16k on it in 3 years) and it needed the whole roof assembly replaced because all the joint pins were worn out, the parts for the roof replacement cost $30,000. Fortunately the dealer he traded it in to didn't notice. If he fixed the roof himself he would have spent about $50,000 in maintenance to run the car for 3 years and 16,000 miles. It really turned me off of Ferrari.
They see him coming and mugged him off, I’ve had mine nearly 2 years. It went in for an annual service just before Xmas, mot and needed 2 tyres (p zeros) total just under £1900 (approx $2340)
Agree great driving experience which I guess is why you buy any Ferrari, F1 box is totally fine ball joints not so much upgrade the manifolds challenge wheels with ceramic brakes help c/w current values in the upwards direction what’s not to like 😊
This is @JayEmm in his element - the little chuckle to camera. Still too pricey for me - my Maserati Coupe with the forerunner of this engine and gearbox will have to suffice.
IMO the perfect spec for a F430..... Rosso Corsa, Crema, and a bit of carbon...... JayEmm, talk some sense to me. Big Ferrari fan, I've also got a S1 Elise. With inflation at 10% and poor interest returns surely it's better to put my money in one of these, and enjoy life instead of thinking "what if".
You mention around @24:30 that there ain't no Boxster that does that (referring to the sound), but that's one of the places where I think the (right) Boxster actually does. I was reminded of your 981 GTS review and went back and listened to it, and while yes, it's different, I think it holds up in the sound department. The one thing holding that Boxster back would be the stupid gearing, though. I also personally think the F430 looks significantly nicer than the Boxster, which reminds me how subjective looks and sounds are! Anyway, I loved both of these reviews (and cars), and I think this F430 Spyder might be the goldilocks Ferrari. What a stunning experience!
When summer comes, we have an Italian Car breakfast near Alton, just south of Basingstoke. Happens every other month between April and October on the first Saturday of the month. Absolutely unofficial with no tickets or anything. At the Departure Lounge Cafe. The next meeting is on 3rd April (morning). James, it might be a bit far from you, but you would be welcome! And anyone else who owns an Italian car and don't mind to buy a breakfast (or not).
@@eze8970 😅 Next thing you will say October is autumn. It is always summer for Italian Car breakfast. Even if the weather is bad, you look at those cars and feel gooooooood! Especially if some rarities come up like Diablo or Pantera. Or even Pantera 2 as happened before.
@@bobmcthran215 this Saturday, 3rd June. Usually there was a small gathering at McDonald's, retail park with leaving as a convoy at 9am towards Alton. Don't know if a convoy thing is happening these days (without an Italian car I go 'solo') . I usually aim to be at the cafe by 10am, otherwise a queue for food is hopeless 😂.
JayEmm, please buy cars for me. I can find no 430s in the USA for sale anywhere close to the equivalent of 70,000. Our USA prices are always much more? That said, I am a constant follower of your reviews. They are Awesome. Please keep them coming for us. Thank you. R
This. I just checked nationwide in the US and the highest mileage berlinetta was around $120K, or GBP96K with an average of $150K for a low mileage coupe. Consider yourselves lucky if you can acquire one of these for 70K in the UK. That said, amazing review and had me looking at pricing almost immediately.
Fantastic review and what a great car. I almost want a coupe F430, but I just can’t get into the looks. At all. I have and love my Challenge Stradale. To me that’s the pinnacle Ferrari personally. The F430 and Scud ARE better cars, but there is just something I can’t get into about them. It might honestly just be the looks, as dumb as that is. For some odd reason too, I actually like the archaic F1 transmission in the CS. It keeps you involved IMO. And the interior in the Scud, it is a million times nicer than the CS, freaking beautiful, but again, there is just something about the simplicity of the CS I prefer. I guess this is just an example of us all having our own taste. LOL
Absolutely agreed about suspension feeling harsh depending on tyres. I have the Pilot 4S on my Audi A5 Black Edition. When I first put them on the car felt very hard, but when lowered to their 'lowest recommended' pressure the suspension felt pleasant again. Not standard S-line suspension pleasant on B-roads, but far better than they did before I took the pressure down.
You need to review my BMW 325 E93 convertible. All very mainstream, but at the price of the bang average dross (£6k in my case with low mileage). Plus it is a proper four seater. No way near as good as a Ferrari convertible but IS affordable and can be used every day.
Not quite Boxster money in the States. A sorted F430 is more like GT4 money and GT4RS money for the rare final 2009 non-scud ones with all the upgrades.
The 430 and 599 are that single generation of Ferrari where both the flappy paddle gearbox and the interior were usable and easy to operate as well. If I had modern Ferrari money I'd pass simply because of the damn interior
Ahh jeez... my parents old F Astra comes into my mind when I see a silver car. Probably the most overdone color, which dominates the traffic everywhere. I would rather buy a car in actual color than doing it with silver or grey...
As a bi-product, selecting the Icy Road setting also stops the exhaust valves from opening above 3000 RPM. Very useful for the noise check before track days. On the ceramic brake thing, yes they are great on track but they also keep the wheels almost completely free of brake dust; just a wipe and they're clean. Contrary to urban legend, the discs should last the life of the car. And yes some cars do see a track occasionally: ruclips.net/video/xhI9wurSfNc/видео.html
I was a complete Petrol Head for decades…… Nature over nurture, Eton educated Grandfather spent his life building engines and racing motorcycle speedway, a national pastime from the 1920’s to 1980 now almost having dropped from a media profile.
Yeah nice car but in the us they trade at about 105000 - 120000 pounds (125k-140k). While like you said you can get a new boxer for about 70k pounds if you want a convertible.
Lovely car……. Much improvement over the gopping 360 🙂 (IMHO) However, the 180’ flat plane sounds flat to me……. never a fan of flat plane V8’s. The 90’ cross plane derivative in the Alfa and Maserati, sound heaps better, although I don’t know how they compare in power and torque…….. it sounds like a pushed four pot with a lot of artificial sound effects. I’m sure it is a joy to drive and I would certainly change my tune on a good road in good weather 🥳🇬🇧
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Brilliant content Jayem
What is old F129?
And please speak a bit slowly Jayem you have an international following, some of us from Asia who are not English native may not understand if you speak so fast like this video
Thank you for another spectacular series on the F430
@@alimuzhussain8394 f129 is the engine in the 355/360.
Sorry for speaking quickly, my English and American audience complain I speak too slow!
Thank you for clarifying Jayem
Always remember there’s more of us in Asia who are you followers than UK and USA, of course it’s not a competition 😜
Can’t wait to see your next episode
@@JayEmmOnCarsI noticed that when I hold my finger down on the screen, you start talking much faster.
Jay I worked for Ferrari in Sydney and can assure you that the "snow/ice" button does get used even in the Australian climate. It's used as follows. When a Ferrari owning couple got to dinner or a function involving liquid refreshments and the male Ferrari owner has over indulged he would ask his good lady to drive home. He would then press the snow/ice button. It starts the car off from rest in 2nd gear and upshifts before things get hectic. In essence turning it into a low powered car. None the wiser the good lady would be proud of her management of the Ferrari. This practice was so common that the snow/ice button is known in the Ferrari owners club as the "wife button".
Uh-oh....
Nice
Hilarious :-)!
A really good fact!
LOL
Still a stunner 15 years later
This was the car for me then & it still is now. Probably the one that got me into cars in the first place - being 24 now, I was 10 when these were in their prime. The F430 spyder epitomises Ferrari for me; screaming V8, modern yet timeless style - finished in red with the cream interior is just 10/10.
its not the F355 tho. epitome of Ferrari!
Same for me!
@@usman1alam I owned a 355 for about 10 years, a spider. While gorgeous, they have the build quality of a Yugo, so you need to temper your fantasies as they are very highly strung and a handful to deal with.
Great cars, loved my F430 coupe, more so than the 458 Italia I had subsequently. More mechanical, more visceral and more fun. Brilliant video, sums up the car brilliantly.
Was it the F1 or the manual box? Manual 430s are exceedingly rare, but there are some out there I hear!
Are they just more expensive now or something? Description mentions 70 thousand pound but I can only find recent sales in the range of over 100 thousand. Big gap
@@paulbrown3302 where are you looking? There's a black F430 at Romans of St Albans up for 70,995 and Autotrader has 10 F430s listed for under 75,000
I own a similar F430 Spider F1 in Blue Pozzi and I adore it. Indeed the last analoge car Ferrari built, superb handling and ride. Brakes (ceramic though) are excellent. Steering is great, not the best attribute though. But the F430 exceeds in daily practice in every circumstance. Highway, city driving, cross-country or the Alps. We drove it many times from The Netherlands to Southern France or Italy on holiday and it can manage every situation. Just super!!!
Possibly my favourite Ferrari. I know people moan about the F430 styling. But I love it!
I never liked it but it is aging well.
For me it's the sound. I don't know what the setup is to the 355 & 360, but those 2 especially the F355 have such a much nicer and legendary sound.
Probably still my favorite V8 Ferrari to this date, it was brand new when I was just hitting my teens and sounds and looks stunning and you can get manual. A grail
My fav Ferrari V8 is the Maserati GranTurismo
@@greathey1234 favourite sounding right ? It’s ass outside of that lol
I took my Spider to the Alps last year and to my absolute surprise it started rev matching on the downshifts when I was 'on it' and it's not done it since. You can do it manually and I frequently do but the Alps - what an experience. I test drove a California T a few months ago and whilst I didn't hate it, it was an absolute relief to get back into my F430 with all the noise, the connection and the feel of a Ferrari. Every time I think of selling mine, I take it out for a drive...
The 360 would rev match above 4.5k rpm I think as well. These cars really liven up once you get on it.
Great video ... agree the F1 box on the F430 is decent ... and the F430 is underrated and really not that bad to run. The only issue I've had (other than eating ball joints) is a starter motor failure (which was a DENSO Japanese part) other than that it's been very reliable and thoroughly enjoyable.
12k miles in 5 years ...
Longer journeys include, Le Mans x3, NC500 and this year Alps and various museums planned
Cayman 987.2 for daily
F430 for weekend
340R for special occasions
Great review on my hubbys car 😜 glad you enjoyed it Jay!
Oh so your the wife are you🤔
Its half your girl, don't forget that😂😂
What a lovely example of the car top of my shopping list - might your husband (or you!) like to star in a driving video in it? Just give me a shout 😎
Your Ferrari reviews are second to none mate! The owners insight is awesome & it's refreshing to see REAL Pros & Cons.
😊🤘🏻
Jay - I test drove one of these yesterday and bought it on the spot. 2007 F430 Coupe in red. What a fantastic car. So much raw emotion when you get behind the wheel. I imagine this is every millennials dream car. Thanks for making this video. It helped with my decision :)
Awesome video as always. Apologies if someone else has already commented on this but I suspect the requirement to have the ignition on to be able to use the boot release toggle switch will have been a security thing, as opposed to being something they hadn’t revised/updated yet, as with your scuderia. If you left the car unattended with the roof down, and didn’t require the ignition to be on for the boot release, anyone would be able to help themselves to the release button and then the contents of the boot. 😊
I've owned a red F430 for over a year now and I absolutely love it! Maintenance costs are quite high, but this car is my best friend😊
What issues did you have?
@Patryk Kaziow 1 rubber line that controls the f1 pump failed, they are $1200 each to replace not including labor and you need 5 of them.
Great Car. Sold mine a few months ago after 4 years. Really good mix of old and new Ferrari. Can still throw a big bill like older Ferrari’s so do your homework but very useable/exploitable as a road car and all the performance you will really need. Gearbox not as bad as people say, not great at slow speeds/manoeuvring no but works just fine once you’re moving. Running costs not crazy as long as you find a good one and stay on top of it. 🥰👌
One of the most beautiful cars ever made. Absolutely beautiful
One of these in a manual RHD are a bit of a unicorn. What a great summer car perfect for western australia with our world class level of sunny days. An absolute dream. Ripping mid engined ferrari v8...
What a beautiful example, full credit to it owner👍
Still driving my '08 manual spider F430 bought new. They were making only 16M's after my car so I probably have one of the newest plain spiders. I love it still. The 360's chassis was known internally as the 131 and the 430 as the 131Evo. Naturally my GT-R's number plate was 35 and my Ferrari's is 131. (The Bimmer is 39.) The key thing is that previous Ferraris needed timing belts changed every two years regardless of mileage, an engine-out ordeal, while the 430 has a chain. Likewise every other aspect is finally suitable for daily driving, including reliability. Only issue in 15 years was a wire harness line breaking, between the ECU and ignition switch unfortunately, but otherwise it's very durable and utterly reliable. You refer to it as fragile but I don't think so.
Awesome! Sounds like an amazing car! I must admit this was my worry (relative to the boxster!)
I've read very mixed comments on reliability from owners, some straight up saying they experienced "maintenance nightmares" with their F430s. Glad you were spared. I'm very intrigued by the Spider and would love to buy one over a Boxter GTS (new) but F1 versions are well over $100K in the States now and converted manuals are $125K and up. Unwanted attention aside, $3K minimum for services a year is also a bit of a deterrent. The noise is certainly beautiful though. Curious how firm the ride in these is?
360 did not require an engine out nor did they require changing every 2 years. Belts are accessible through small hatch behind centre console.
@@gtsspeed2619 I'm almost positive about the two years thing: how long do you think the service interval was if not two years?? If it could be done through a hatch I stand corrected. I'm almost positive the 355 required an engine out for that, though, so maybe I'm just misremembering the 360.
@@lqr824355 yes engine out. Belts could be done at 3 years. Albeit this would be predicated on mileage. I owned a 360 spider manual. Enjoyed owning one of the best sounding cars ever. It was a great occasion car. I moved on to another great Spyder. But very few cars sound as good - at least with 8 cylinders or less.
I adore the F430, never understood the gripes about the looks, I think it looks stunning. For me, it looks exactly how the ‘baby’ Ferrari should; low, light, sleek but simple and understated.
Couldnt agree more and sometimes referenced as the baby Enzo as they share parts.
Spot on review. I agree on the F1 box, the leather, and that this is an extremely attractive car at the price given you’ve got the cash to maintain it. Met one of my best friends in life on a ride in one of these. The F430 spider will always be one of my favorites!
Absolutely love it. Just got my 2006 F430 Spider from the Ferrari dealer in Boston with 15,000 miles on it two days ago and its absolutely amazing. I have a 2014 Bentley Continental V8S GTC and Aston Martin 2006 DB9 Volante and neither one of them are happy at the moment 🙂
Had mine 9.5 years now...still luv her
For a road car, and not a competition car, the ability to drop the roof will always, always be preferable to any perceived benefit in rigidity gained by the coupe version - and I will die on that hill! Of course its as much fun as a Coupe...!
This is my favorite Ferrari, JayEmm. I was a kid when these premiered, and I always loved them. Everything you said is why I love it, and I’m so glad you did a vid on one. Greetings from Pennsylvania! 👍
Hi jay somedays ago i found your channel. This is the best car review channel i have ever seen. And your explaining voice is so smooth. It is just part of the experience for us and by the way neither i am a car enthusiast nor a journalist. I just really love sports car and supercars, these machines just make our day. Keep up the good work❤🎉
One of my favorite Ferrari, along with the Testarossa, F40, F355 and F60.
Still one of my dream cars - now affordable - thank you JayEmm mate!
Driven this car myself it’s a stunning example and Paul’s a top fella
Another brilliant review, James. What a fabulous car! For some reason cars from the 90’s and early 00’s are just nicer than the modern varieties. You summed it up perfectly: Class.
One of my modern favorites. I think the Roma is gonna age really well too
If you want sound, take the precats out (which you should really do anyway). My advice is don't heel-toe the TCU won't have a clue what you're doing. The lack of downshift blip (at low revs) is due to a couple of things:
- they are programmed to be smoother as the TCU (rightly, generally) thinks you're driving more leisurely
- the exhaust valves will be closed. If you keep the valves open all the time, you'll probably hear more of a downshift blip even at lowish revs
The 430 was designed to do both quiet and loud, which when it drones like a bitch with the valves left open, is a very welcome thing (imho)
Also my first Ferrari, what a great looking and sounding car
A quiet masterpiece of a car...and a wonderful video which neutralizes the negative back-talk against the model number and the transmission.
The F430 is still the most beautiful modern Ferrari berlinetta, hands down.
And what a sound!
I had the same concerns when I bought my 2008 599 but joined the FCA here in California and its a great club with awesome downs earth members!
You're so right about the tires. I bought my F430 in 2020 from first owner and it still had the original tires. Owner: yeah but it only has 11.000km! but your car feels like WOOD man!!. I put the michelin PS4S and it changed the game completely. Then I bought a Manual modena which had pirellis from 2010. Then I bought the 599 which had pirellis from 2013. What the f--- is wrong with ferrari owners! The cost of new tires compared to the safety and the feeling at the wheel, I just don't get it.
I would imagine a lot of Ferraris aren't bought for the way they drive as much as the bragging rights...
@@isthatujeebusnot met an owner yet who thinks like that
you'll probably find alot of ferrari owners can afford the car payments but not the running, so they are run on a shoe string budget.
@@minatormyth so they don't exist then...? Anybody that is actually into cars wouldn't run years-old tyres on their snotter let alone a top-end sports car with +400bhp.
@@isthatujeebusey simpleton , were did I say no owner exists. I said no owner I have met or even know bought a ferrari just to brag about instead of driving.
Don't give a f cuk about your rambling on about tyres, I responded to your assumption.
Thanks for this great video. I have been the owner of one those ( with the factiory carbone race seats option) for 8 years now, she gives me the same smile each time ! Can t decide to sale it
F430 spider design and look I prefer it over the 458.
Paul's a lucky guy...that's a nice Spyder.
The rear view pic of the yellow 16M @18.24 is cool and stylish.
Thanks for posting, James
8:15 I have the ceramics (which was standard in Japan in 2008 along with the shield emblem). Remember they take an incredible 30kg+ off the unsprung weight, and while I've never driven one with steel socks I cannot imagine it doesn't make an improvement in ride. The brake pedal does however take some time to master: you push down to apply brakes, but merely relieve pressure (without actual motion, it seems) to modulate them. Its just tricky enough to learn that one feels smug for having done so.
You are correct it makes a massive difference. All the springs and damper rates along with the calibration for the e-diff and mannetino settings were developed for CCM’s. It is now known that they put the old steel brakes on in some markets to keep the MSRP down. I bought my car New and then when the steel discs and pads needed replacing I had the factory upgrade. Could not believe the difference. Until you have driven one on CCM’s you have a different car.
Get the Ferrari free-flow exhaust, specifically designed for the 430 and the car comes alive. Much better sound & the engine seems more responsive. Haven’t looked back!
Honestly? I prefer the 430. It looks better than the 458 in my opinion it doesn't have such I dunno a smiley face the 458 looks too clean too safe, it's not the 488 gtb which looks aggressive and angry! I like that, but the 458 I dunno I'm not a huge fan.
Plus the 430 is the car that flew past me on the M1 when I was 5 and made me obsessed with fast cars, so there's nostalgia too. Would love to own a 430 hardtop but a spyder would be a dream.
Love your reviews. Takes me back to my childhood watching Top Gear! Good bloke
California's with the manual: 8 or 9 in total, but only 2 rhd! Extremely rare!
If bullet points and comma splices were personified this is the guy.
None the less hes raw, to the point and easy to watch compared to todays roadman 1000bhp civic reviewers. Ive watched his videos before buying cars.
If you prefer the feel of the metal paddles over the carbon ones in the Scud, you can always buy a set of OEM extended metal ones from the Challenge cars.
I'm so happy to have driven one of these on the Autobahn a few days ago 😁it may have been a coupe with an automatic, but driving it for an hour was worth every penny. Really glad the road was free with little to no traffic on that day. I'm actually surprised I could fit in at 6'4 or 194cm height and still had room for more.
Loved the ‘evil’ laugh towards the end of the video! Fantastic. Another great video. Thank you, James!
I recall when the F430 was released. The energy and essence of the time with this car was one of amazement. It truly was a game changer for ferrari.
Just go an watch Jeremy Clarkson review of it from back then.
This was the ultimate mix of looks, ferrari dna and modern technology at a new level. I guess that's why it's still has this certain mystique for being an older ferrari.
"When this was made they were still a winning team"
What a way to remind us tifosi how good they were and how horrid they are now, just before Monaco race week.
At least it was Checo nudging the wall in quali this year so they can't screw that up again. Probably.
I didn't like the look of the F430 when it came out, but boy has it aged well. Probably one of the prettiest cars from that period.
Fantastic review! Can confirm everything you said, though I own a Coupe. Have a Tubi exhaust which makes it a totally different car in terms of responsiveness. Got it installed after the “usual” header cracks and wanted to fix the issue for good. Also the sound improves quite a bit when valves are open. And imho it remains the most beautiful V8 to this day.
Such a great car, I loved both my 360 spider and 430 spider and value for money they were amazing compared with the later 458. Don’t get me wrong I loved my 458 but these are spot on. Go get one and put a smile on your face, don’t worry about the running costs they aren’t too bad. Just make your it’s been looked after and sort any little issues immediately and it will see you right. 🤟
Always loved the look of the F430!! Still have 2 1/18 Hotwheels scale version of both the spider and the coupé from my childhood
Thanks J, a Ferrari review is always a good one! 🙏🙏
In Europe they maybe boxster money but in the states they are quite a bit more boxsters start around 65kish
Always love your content jay, especially the ferrari stuff. Probably watched 99% of it, the other 1% is EVs content 😂
Great video JAYEMM. I was almost tempted to laugh at the image of you,in the opening scene, and a few scattered throughout the video.With reflections bouncing off the windscreen,the cars engine revving,and you rocking about in the driver’s seat with the wind in your hair.You looked so animated.You seemed to be having so much fun,having a ball.You looked like a CGI of someone enjoying themselves in a Ferrari.I was tempted to chuckle a few times.Great video.I was surprised at how I never tired of your chatter,you were always pertinent and informative.And the sound of the Ferrari was something else.The way the countryside threatened to engulf the whole car,just from a view from the side panels,or mirrors was something I’ve never seen before.Congratulations on your video.Excellent job.Just even more footage of the Ferrari tearing up the countryside from the outside.
Marvelous!!!! I’m Now Lusting for a 430 Spider!!!!
You are like the modern toad of toad hall blipping that throttle. I am not sure where you drive these cars but you must be a local legend.
That why we love you
The F360 was already a full Aluminium structure, no steel as you mention it in the beginning
I got one in yellow that was one of the best driving experience
Absolutely brilliant car, and absolutely brilliant video.
Fantastic cars which these days offer very good value for money when you look at the prices of classic Fords, BMW's and certain 911's. Harry Metcalf reviewed a lovely blue 430 Spyder with a manual gearbox a couple of years back which I loved the look of though the F1 box in the 430 seems to be a bit improvement on the one in the 360. I loved the looks of the 458 but not a fan of the steering wheel with all the buttons and controls on.
Terrific show mate. I love this car, and I hope it's going to be my starter Ferrari one day.
A friend of mine had one of these. It cost him $1/mile in maintenance not counting fuel, oil, tires, or insurance. When he sold it it had 32,000 miles (he put 16k on it in 3 years) and it needed the whole roof assembly replaced because all the joint pins were worn out, the parts for the roof replacement cost $30,000. Fortunately the dealer he traded it in to didn't notice. If he fixed the roof himself he would have spent about $50,000 in maintenance to run the car for 3 years and 16,000 miles. It really turned me off of Ferrari.
They see him coming and mugged him off, I’ve had mine nearly 2 years. It went in for an annual service just before Xmas, mot and needed 2 tyres (p zeros) total just under £1900 (approx $2340)
I want buy one, but i fear a lot this kind of problems
The F430 is my favorite V8 Ferrari, but there's no other way to say it, its V8 sounds like a Inline 4.
Love love love that car perfect spec and brilliant video sir. Thank you
Love your content, very insightfull.
It's nice to enjoy these cars trough you! Good on ya lad!!! Thank's Paul.
Agree great driving experience which I guess is why you buy any Ferrari, F1 box is totally fine ball joints not so much upgrade the manifolds challenge wheels with ceramic brakes help c/w current values in the upwards direction what’s not to like 😊
This is @JayEmm in his element - the little chuckle to camera. Still too pricey for me - my Maserati Coupe with the forerunner of this engine and gearbox will have to suffice.
So good video, very informative and well narrated.
IMO the perfect spec for a F430..... Rosso Corsa, Crema, and a bit of carbon...... JayEmm, talk some sense to me. Big Ferrari fan, I've also got a S1 Elise. With inflation at 10% and poor interest returns surely it's better to put my money in one of these, and enjoy life instead of thinking "what if".
How do you capture the sound of every car so good?
I haven't heard sound captured that good on any other channel
Ive gone through a gazillion 360-430 videos and am not daunted about maintenance. It isnt cheap but you can do it and do it yourself.
You mention around @24:30 that there ain't no Boxster that does that (referring to the sound), but that's one of the places where I think the (right) Boxster actually does.
I was reminded of your 981 GTS review and went back and listened to it, and while yes, it's different, I think it holds up in the sound department. The one thing holding that Boxster back would be the stupid gearing, though.
I also personally think the F430 looks significantly nicer than the Boxster, which reminds me how subjective looks and sounds are!
Anyway, I loved both of these reviews (and cars), and I think this F430 Spyder might be the goldilocks Ferrari. What a stunning experience!
Britain.
When summer comes, we have an Italian Car breakfast near Alton, just south of Basingstoke. Happens every other month between April and October on the first Saturday of the month. Absolutely unofficial with no tickets or anything. At the Departure Lounge Cafe. The next meeting is on 3rd April (morning). James, it might be a bit far from you, but you would be welcome! And anyone else who owns an Italian car and don't mind to buy a breakfast (or not).
Isn't April in Spring?! You can still get snow in April! Sounds a good event though.
@@eze8970 😅 Next thing you will say October is autumn. It is always summer for Italian Car breakfast. Even if the weather is bad, you look at those cars and feel gooooooood! Especially if some rarities come up like Diablo or Pantera. Or even Pantera 2 as happened before.
@@Barbarian75 Glad you're all getting out & driving them! 👍👍🙏🙏
When is the next one? I'm just north of Newbury.
@@bobmcthran215 this Saturday, 3rd June. Usually there was a small gathering at McDonald's, retail park with leaving as a convoy at 9am towards Alton. Don't know if a convoy thing is happening these days (without an Italian car I go 'solo') . I usually aim to be at the cafe by 10am, otherwise a queue for food is hopeless 😂.
JayEmm, please buy cars for me. I can find no 430s in the USA for sale anywhere close to the equivalent of 70,000. Our USA prices are always much more? That said, I am a constant follower of your reviews. They are Awesome. Please keep them coming for us. Thank you. R
This. I just checked nationwide in the US and the highest mileage berlinetta was around $120K, or GBP96K with an average of $150K for a low mileage coupe. Consider yourselves lucky if you can acquire one of these for 70K in the UK. That said, amazing review and had me looking at pricing almost immediately.
Own a F430 spider, love it
12:51 yeah…I’m DEFINITELY subscribing to your channel. 👍🏽 ✅ Thank you 🙏🏽 for this EXCELLENT VIDEO. I’M EXCITED FROM BEGINNING TO END! 😅
Fantastic review and what a great car. I almost want a coupe F430, but I just can’t get into the looks. At all. I have and love my Challenge Stradale. To me that’s the pinnacle Ferrari personally. The F430 and Scud ARE better cars, but there is just something I can’t get into about them. It might honestly just be the looks, as dumb as that is. For some odd reason too, I actually like the archaic F1 transmission in the CS. It keeps you involved IMO. And the interior in the Scud, it is a million times nicer than the CS, freaking beautiful, but again, there is just something about the simplicity of the CS I prefer. I guess this is just an example of us all having our own taste. LOL
Absolutely agreed about suspension feeling harsh depending on tyres. I have the Pilot 4S on my Audi A5 Black Edition. When I first put them on the car felt very hard, but when lowered to their 'lowest recommended' pressure the suspension felt pleasant again. Not standard S-line suspension pleasant on B-roads, but far better than they did before I took the pressure down.
Yeah same with my diesel A2.
Porsche are very capable cars no doubt, but Ferraris all day every day. I am somewhat biased tho, tdf blue Cali owner here. Yes I’ve owned Porsches
You need to review my BMW 325 E93 convertible. All very mainstream, but at the price of the bang average dross (£6k in my case with low mileage). Plus it is a proper four seater. No way near as good as a Ferrari convertible but IS affordable and can be used every day.
❤ really nice Ferrari,one day if I find the Money, thanks for the clip
Such a shame this car has never been driven.
Not quite Boxster money in the States. A sorted F430 is more like GT4 money and GT4RS money for the rare final 2009 non-scud ones with all the upgrades.
The 430 and 599 are that single generation of Ferrari where both the flappy paddle gearbox and the interior were usable and easy to operate as well.
If I had modern Ferrari money I'd pass simply because of the damn interior
A sliver F430 convertible for me is the perfect spec
Ahh jeez... my parents old F Astra comes into my mind when I see a silver car. Probably the most overdone color, which dominates the traffic everywhere. I would rather buy a car in actual color than doing it with silver or grey...
As a bi-product, selecting the Icy Road setting also stops the exhaust valves from opening above 3000 RPM. Very useful for the noise check before track days.
On the ceramic brake thing, yes they are great on track but they also keep the wheels almost completely free of brake dust; just a wipe and they're clean. Contrary to urban legend, the discs should last the life of the car. And yes some cars do see a track occasionally: ruclips.net/video/xhI9wurSfNc/видео.html
Great car great video as always pal. Wouldn’t pay 70k for a boxster if they held my kids captive 😂
I could almost buy this car but I couldn’t justify the money to maintain it 😢 the gas cap could be over 100 bucks lol 😂
I test drove a 2019 Ferrari Portifino before buying the 2006 F430 Spider last weekr. No comparrison. Full stop.
I was a complete Petrol Head for decades…… Nature over nurture, Eton educated Grandfather spent his life building engines and racing motorcycle speedway, a national pastime from the 1920’s to 1980 now almost having dropped from a media profile.
Yeah nice car but in the us they trade at about 105000 - 120000 pounds (125k-140k). While like you said you can get a new boxer for about 70k pounds if you want a convertible.
Great video, when are we going to see an update on the 430 Scud suspension?
Lovely car……. Much improvement over the gopping 360 🙂 (IMHO)
However, the 180’ flat plane sounds flat to me……. never a fan of flat plane V8’s. The 90’ cross plane derivative in the Alfa and Maserati, sound heaps better, although I don’t know how they compare in power and torque…….. it sounds like a pushed four pot with a lot of artificial sound effects.
I’m sure it is a joy to drive and I would certainly change my tune on a good road in good weather 🥳🇬🇧
The 430 is cool. The rides a little firm but it’s so pretty who cares.