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Just my two penneth, just remember that when you are dealing with folks that have a unique brain like Dom, a true legend, that brain works in ways that might seem weird to other people, and those people that obsessively pursue something, be it music or painting or any art, might not always end up being the easiest folks to deal with. It's often a byproduct of a genius artistic brain, which Dom absolutely has. Big up both Stranjah and Dom :)
This is by far one of the nicest comments around. (And no, FFS, I'm not Dom 😂). I'm not saying the man's a renesssaince one, but he does seem to have that something when it comes to this genre of music. Mind you, he does have a tune named 'DMT', haha. Now, I wonder...
@@testinggrounds484 i've been there since '91 and Dom's tunes have been a massive influence. I'm also baffled how anyone could listen to his hard angry music and not think that he might be a bit of an angry dude sometimes :)
It's disappointing to hear this coming from Dom, he has always been one of my favourite artists. On the other hand i appreciate that you respected his wishes even if i don't agree with them.
LOL. I love the direction this video went in! Definitely not expected, as I thought you were really going to show the tutorial. Too bad you couldn't, a bit ridiculous tbh, as I feel this will hurt Dom's reputation and exposure, more than help it. Oh well, his loss is our gain, as still got a great video out of this! Thanks so much for sharing!
Dom stood his ground and acted on how he felt. You can't blame him. You can't expect producers not to care when you take a tune of theirs and use it to your own purposes. Take the Redeyes and Goldie incident, for example. You think that hurt Goldie's reputation and exposure? Yeah. Dom is a legend of a producer, genre pioneer, still releasing bangers with a style none can touch, like it or not. His views on Twitter and whatnot and his persona are a different discussion for those who know him. Don't like them? Leave them be. You can enjoy the music regardless.
@@STRANJAH It's just a shame he tried to discredit what you're doing. Its like the Winstons having a pop at him for remaking the Amen break to construct his Tramen, that he now sells in his sample pack. Acid_Lab + Icons though bro👊🔥🔥 .. well chuffed with those!!!
He could just teach all the techniques with his own productions but as I have noticed his own tracks get half the views compared to when he uses other peoples intellectual property!!! And I know the tracks use samples that if released on a label and for sale to mainstream market would be cleared and payed for !!!!
Dom was out of line. I've spoken to a few DnB legends about this and they all side with you man. Don't let it get you down... I would be honored to have people remaking my tunes tbh
@@testinggrounds484 I'm not mentioning any names and it doesn't really matter. Personal matters like that should be handled through DM's and not in the public eye. It doesn't give the scene a good look in the long run ;)
Which legends did you speak too ???🤣every legend in this scene has regarded dom as a top producer and a legend himself for 30+ years !!!! Your caping big time !!!!
If I had to pick dom n Roland or this guy I know who I pick ! The guy who has worked on every classic label and released some of the best tracks the genre has saw ! And this guy could teach all these techniques with his own tracks but they get half the views compared to when he recreates other peoples music !!!
Cap !!!!! Dom n Roland’s is a classic dj and producer with 30+ years of respect from all the legends from the scene !!!!this track is derivative wishy woshy and comes no we Where near Dom’s work ! Dom has worked for and been respected buy every classic label like 31 records / metalheadz / no u turn / moving shadow to name a few ! And is still releasing music at a top level and is still highly regarded by all the legends in the scene !!!
Yessss @Stranjah! Choooons a banga mate. Heard about this beef Dom had with you and it's really sad to hear he's the only one who's cried about you making a "tutorial cover version" like he's the first person you've done 🤦🏾♂️ Anyway, big up my guy stranjah 👊🏾
@@STRANJAH I see what you mean but plenty of people remake lots of classic and influential music on yt. There's great ones by point blank music school for example, remaking the tracks of bjork and massive attack to teach producers how it was done. I've got lots out of remaking tunes i like myself in hip hop. But it's a shame some see it as an infringment of their creation. Big ups for atleast trying Stranjah, love your vids. Keep doing what ya do :)
@@oTgNinJAFTW Do you think PBMS haven't approached and discussed the remakes with Björk or Massive Attack / their representatives first? A lot of content on YT is just plain copyright infringement unless the stuff has been put out under creative commons. There seems to be either a huge culture of misunderstanding, ignorance, or just plain not caring, to which, frankly, the whole modern Internet culture is to blame. It's like kids downloading mp3's back in the day and thinking it's OK / fair use / whatever. What you think is fair use or "right/acceptable" is not the same as what it is from a legal or even respectful pov.
@@testinggrounds484 I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree there chief. All art deserves to be free and all art comes from taking what came before it in order to learn the building blocks into making something new. One of the best ways to do this is by remaking tracks you like and just because someone posts their method as a yt video shouldn't mean it gets taken down. The laws of copyright and intellectual property are becoming so strict that soon you won't even be able to play a melody somebody else has played or be inspired by other artists (literally has happened in court numerous times already). Not saying art shouldn't be original but people dissecting a track to learn something about creation shouldn't be discouraged, it's not the same as claiming something is your own. But this is the pathetic state of copyright in 2023, and it's only going to get worse.
@@oTgNinJAFTW I'm not saying art does not deserve to be free nor denying how previous art influences the newer generations of makers nor that it should not influence. What I am saying is that artists and their works should be respected. While one can argue that copying, imitation, or even stealing, is the highest form of flattery, there seems to be this growing culture of plain lazyness where everything needs to be quick and free, without the sweat, blood, and tears - to slightly exaggerate. People are more than free to dissect any track for learning purposes in the privacy of their own home / studios, but as soon as you take a remake of a track like this online, especially linked with some marketing, it shouldn't come as a surprise that it might result in negative reactions, and most likely from the original artist if you have followed what's been up in the last few years. Now, if Dom & Roland does not want his track to be used in this kind of way, or if he should get a wee mad when he is not asked first, he has every right to do so. Do people have the right to be disappointed? Of course. I am not defending the way he reacted. I do however think I understand well why he reacted so strongly although would've been great to see the track (or any of his other tracks, for that matter) dissected by the man himself.
Caught my attention with Stevie Ray Vaughan. That was who got me into music on a deeper level and loving blues and jazz before discovering DnB and its heavy sampling of those genres. I totally forgot about that collab with David Bowie. Very cool. Would be cool if you did a video on the history of call and response blues and its effect on DnB.
Salute for this one! Dom played here in Sacramento California in 1999 and fell out after hitting our Cali weed after the show (those UK spliffs just don't hit the same haha)! He was reportedly super nice to the promoters and crew and killed it at show. Shoutout to 916 Junglist crew and Billy Lane.
Word up. Especially when considering that the the original Can't Punish Me is all stolen samples, with zero money given to Bowie or anyone else Dom stole from. He's made a whole career off that one hit, and it's ALL samples used without permission.
@@Positive_Tea And you know about how things went back in the day - how? And who else did Dom "steal" from? If you're referring to The Winstons, then point out your finger to the whole damn industry (pun not intended). The whole topic of sampling both in hip hop and edm has been going ad infinitum, so either you're a kid without any knowledge of street and dance music history, or just picking up low hanging fruits for internet points. Either way, not very convincing arguments. Bowie wasn't unaware of his track being sampled by Dom. You don't have any knowledge of their possible mutual agreements nor aggreements between Moving Shadow and Bowie/his label back in the day.
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Ha, this is funny! Ok, lets show everyone how D&R sampled Bowie instead 😂 D&R didnt have a leg to stand on, but fair play for making the nost of the situation! Keep up the good work. Dont get old and salty!
I love Dom + Roland in general and Can't Punish Me and it's various remixes are some of my favorite dnb tracks of all time, but I can't think of any legitimate reason why an artist would discourage this type of tutorial on a 20+ year old track. Assuming Stranjah is telling the truth and not just trying to avoid RUclips algorithm censorship (possible), Dom comes off as kind of a jerk here (I don't think it would be an issue with his label making decisions against Dom's wishes since I think he has controlled his own label for quite a while now).
Yeah we’ve gone back and forth and I’ve heard him out and he has his reasons not to be happy. And to be fair I have done some research and this whole RUclips covers thing is a bit of a grey area. Technically from what I understand you do require permissions granted from labels or artists. But most labels don’t bother taking the videos down because it’s a net positive in terms of promo for them. So it really comes down to the artists preferences. It’s a learning experience and I’m still trying to figure out how to navigate it in the future as not all artist are reachable, if I wanted to ask for their blessing.
@@STRANJAH Legal debates about intellectual property aside, I wonder what, in Dom's own mind, he considers proprietary about the track. And if he were Daft Punk, would be object to the same treatment being done to Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger showing how it's essentially Coke Bottle Baby sped up with some FX. Especially in the case of dnb, where I imagine a large percent of the track is sampled from music Dom didn't create himself. What specific filter sweeps or bass EQ settings does he think are State Secrets, that you unlocked by pure happenstance but is too dangerous to unleash upon the world at large? I don't see what justification he has to try to prevent you from showing the world what techniques he used decades ago to make music. You'd think he would welcome this type of thing to not only show how ahead of the game he was back then, but also bring his music to a new generation of listeners. Compare that to guys like Sub Focus or yourself (and many other dnb pioneers who were in the forums since back in the old days) who painstakingly try to teach the craft to anyone interested. All of my music (admittedly nothing as good as Can't Punish Me) I consider free for the world, and I'd happily send DAW project files to anyone interested enough to want to remix. This situation feels like Lars Ulrich circa 1998 and makes me lose a lot of respect for Dom, unfortunately.
@@chadwilson2528every sound on Can't Punish Me is samples used without permission! Dom is on some bullshit with this one. He's made his whole career with that tune, all stolen sounds from others.
I can understand an artist not wanting their methods being disclosed. Maybe it’s not a possessive gesture as much as it is a privacy thing. Some artists have an intimate relationship with their art and this type of exposure may corrupt or impurify the process, in their eyes.
Honestly, i always liked his music and we've booked him at a couple fo events in the past. Unfortunately it's a caee of don't meet your heros! The guy is just a grumpy, self entitled, arrogant bell end! Really unfriendly and just thinks of himself as a better person than anyone else... so, long story short, I'm not at all surprised he reacted like that! 🤦 don't sweat it man!
my god dom and roland are such clowns, cant believe that this has come to. production classes being removed, do you man and dont let these stains ruin it for everybody
The karen of drum and bass. On a serious note I can understand it. Tracks are being uploaded to UKF where a copycat has just youtubed 'sound like' tutorials and just robbed the foruma that the original creator put the time into creating (sub focus, dimensions etc...) . UKF and other labels / youtube channels should stop promoting copycats. Learning other peoples techniques is probably the best tool one can use to become a better producer but shouldn't just rip people off
I don't think it would have been a problem if you didn't plaster the video with your sample pack. It didn't look like a tutorial, it looked like an ad that you were using someone else's music to promote.
Oh, it seems like I might have gone a bit overboard with the self-promotion, hasn't it? Like turning a cooking show into a non-stop infomercial for a set of pans. I appreciate your perspective and will definitely aim for more tutorial and less QVC in future videos. Cheers for the feedback!
The irony of Dom & Roland complaining about you disclosing his "production secrets" when the track in question has a highly recognizable sample of another artist as it's centerpiece... Either you're comfortable with artists leaning on each other's work and techniques or you aren't. Pick a lane.
Great decision, Stranjah, but what's with this thumbnail and the word banned in all caps? To my understanding, you did not reach to Dom & Roland before doing a video and remake of one of his most classic and well-known tunes. Do correct me if I'm wrong here. Frankly, I don't quite fathom how you did not come to think how taking a tune like that and including a sample pack with the purpose of marketing it could lead to this kind of result, especially with someone like Dom. Don't get me wrong, I think you're doing a great thing with your channel and the tutorials and all, but this one was just handled badly, plain and simple. It does not help that this current vid, especially the thumbnails and scrutinizing the Bowie sound, comes off as passive-aggressive, especially when you talk about Dom in past tense at the beginning. He's been putting out quality stuff to this day as you later on mention as well. Dom could have definitely handled his reaction much better in many ways, but I am still surprised how so many people do not seem to understand what caused his reaction and where it stems from. Instead, they just attack him with ad hominem taking things to the discussion which have nothing to do with the whole remake shutdown. To add, anyone trying to explain how the Doc was cool with the 'Shadow Boxing' tutorial so Dom should've this and that - no. Two different geezers with two different mentalities. Doesn't work that way.
@@testinggrounds484 Nobody is being bullied here. Dom made a choice to take a certain stance on this issue and people are well within their rights to have an opinion about it. All of your many replies to everyone here seem like you are taking this way too personally for someone who isn't Dom or directly connected to Dom. Stranjah was asked not to do the tutorial, and he didn't. But you are still mad. Stranjah was respectful, he spent the first minute of the video telling everyone what a great artist and technical producer Dom is. But you are still mad. Stranjah pinned a comment asking everyone to be positive and respectful to Dom. But you are still mad. Honestly you seem a bit unhinged Dom.
@@jeffsymons7084 Jeff, please - spare me of the trolling, will you? "Mad", "unhinged"... come on. I'm not referring to comments just in this YT video's comment section, but to people's reactions in general regarding this effing storm in a teacup. Neither am I denying that people cannot have an opinion about this, whatever it might be, of course they can. If you're civil and respectful about it, great, but if not - in kind. A lot of comments have not been that. Talking about taking things personally, you might want to look again at people's responses here and there if this comment section is your only source of reference. Yeah, sure, there is Dom's initial reaction which was a full on knee-jerk emotional backlash, but that can be understood to some extent (except for the unnecessary dis towards Stranjah and their samples). But then there's a lot of Stranjah's fans going apeshit and start attacking Dom - over what? His initial reaction, regardless of his posts afterwards where he explained his response and apologized his primal reaction? Over him not wanting his track being used in the context he explained? Asking Strahjah not to do the remake? Yeah... Stranjah did not proceed with the tutorial. Great move from his side, kudos. Of course it would've been cool to see the end result but, at least in my opinion, his approach was wrong to begin with. The aspects in his video I was referring to still do give a slightly vindictive, p-a vibe. During the first minute you're referring it slightly feels he talks about Dom as he's some has-been but might be that's just me, then. I do hope it's unintentional and he does talk about him later on as well with praise (not that he would need to). That's why I asked him about it above. Well in my rights, wouldn’t you say? I admit I could've had a less pressing tone, perhaps. Still, seems like if one's not in the bandwagon of rolling one's eyes over the remake being cancelled, harshly dissing Dom, and not giving critical feedback to Stranjah about this, one's not in the group for popular kids. Anyway, taking part in this whole topic has been a complete waste of time. Nevertheless thought I'd reply to you out of courtesy. Going to leave it here.
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STRANJAH: Can't Punish Me
Dom And Roland: I can lol
Dom is such a salty boi lol
Just my two penneth, just remember that when you are dealing with folks that have a unique brain like Dom, a true legend, that brain works in ways that might seem weird to other people, and those people that obsessively pursue something, be it music or painting or any art, might not always end up being the easiest folks to deal with. It's often a byproduct of a genius artistic brain, which Dom absolutely has.
Big up both Stranjah and Dom :)
This is by far one of the nicest comments around. (And no, FFS, I'm not Dom 😂). I'm not saying the man's a renesssaince one, but he does seem to have that something when it comes to this genre of music. Mind you, he does have a tune named 'DMT', haha. Now, I wonder...
@@testinggrounds484 i've been there since '91 and Dom's tunes have been a massive influence. I'm also baffled how anyone could listen to his hard angry music and not think that he might be a bit of an angry dude sometimes :)
Stop worshipping humans
Good on you for extending that "professional courtesy" and respect (despite the disappointment)!
And that, folks, is how you bounce back from criticism - big up Stranjah!
Dom is punching the air right now
...while all you guys are punching in the dark hoping to hit below belt like it's no thang.
He is probably just consenting on making great tunes like he has for over 30 years !!
It's disappointing to hear this coming from Dom, he has always been one of my favourite artists. On the other hand i appreciate that you respected his wishes even if i don't agree with them.
LOL. I love the direction this video went in! Definitely not expected, as I thought you were really going to show the tutorial. Too bad you couldn't, a bit ridiculous tbh, as I feel this will hurt Dom's reputation and exposure, more than help it. Oh well, his loss is our gain, as still got a great video out of this! Thanks so much for sharing!
Glad you like it, thx for the shout
Dom will be fine. It sucks how this was resolved but it is what it is.
Onwards and upwards.
Dom stood his ground and acted on how he felt. You can't blame him. You can't expect producers not to care when you take a tune of theirs and use it to your own purposes. Take the Redeyes and Goldie incident, for example. You think that hurt Goldie's reputation and exposure? Yeah. Dom is a legend of a producer, genre pioneer, still releasing bangers with a style none can touch, like it or not. His views on Twitter and whatnot and his persona are a different discussion for those who know him. Don't like them? Leave them be. You can enjoy the music regardless.
It is a bit mad really.. I'm surprised Crystl's not pulled D&R to one side and sorted him with a snickers. You're not you when you're hungry mate!
;)
It's all good, I have to respect the artist's wishes. We are all individuals and have own own preferences!
:D Good one.
@@STRANJAH It's just a shame he tried to discredit what you're doing. Its like the Winstons having a pop at him for remaking the Amen break to construct his Tramen, that he now sells in his sample pack.
Acid_Lab + Icons though bro👊🔥🔥 .. well chuffed with those!!!
All my homies hate gatekeeping.
Summon Fresh.
@@testinggrounds484 Can't punish m... Oh 😂
He could just teach all the techniques with his own productions but as I have noticed his own tracks get half the views compared to when he uses other peoples intellectual property!!! And I know the tracks use samples that if released on a label and for sale to mainstream market would be cleared and payed for !!!!
Dom was out of line. I've spoken to a few DnB legends about this and they all side with you man. Don't let it get you down... I would be honored to have people remaking my tunes tbh
Who've you spoken with? And how was Dom out of line?
@@testinggrounds484 I'm not mentioning any names and it doesn't really matter. Personal matters like that should be handled through DM's and not in the public eye. It doesn't give the scene a good look in the long run ;)
@@stevezac_cptlpnshmnt Fair enough. Fully agree on the taking taking things through DM, at least if possible.
Which legends did you speak too ???🤣every legend in this scene has regarded dom as a top producer and a legend himself for 30+ years !!!! Your caping big time !!!!
More cap ! You won’t name them because I doubt you spoke to any one !!!
Dom Tweets "Guess what…I woke up annoyed 😂" LMAO get some fiber in your diet
If I had to pick dom n Roland or this guy I know who I pick ! The guy who has worked on every classic label and released some of the best tracks the genre has saw ! And this guy could teach all these techniques with his own tracks but they get half the views compared to when he recreates other peoples music !!!
This was really good idea to make new track. And this tutorial is better than previous version. So maybe good that this happen.
Glad you think so, appreciate it
Cap !!!!! Dom n Roland’s is a classic dj and producer with 30+ years of respect from all the legends from the scene !!!!this track is derivative wishy woshy and comes no we
Where near Dom’s work ! Dom has worked for and been respected buy every classic label like 31 records / metalheadz / no u turn / moving shadow to name a few ! And is still releasing music at a top level and is still highly regarded by all the legends in the scene !!!
Yessss @Stranjah! Choooons a banga mate.
Heard about this beef Dom had with you and it's really sad to hear he's the only one who's cried about you making a "tutorial cover version" like he's the first person you've done 🤦🏾♂️
Anyway, big up my guy stranjah 👊🏾
Very cool track ! And I'm really surprised of the genius sampling from Dom & Roland. Can't punish me was/is one of my favorite tracks.
I just found out you are part of Vortex, Martini Dub is a banger! A walkthrough of it would be nice!
Yes, we had a good run of tunes together, would be nice to collab with them again
Awesome job. Thanks man!! I'll be picking up both packs.
Bigup Ryan and thank you for your support!
Would love to see a tutorial based around wobbly fog horns, like in the background track of this intro.
This is rediculous. If someone gives a guitar tutorial on yt, would the original guitar player tell the youtuber to take it down?? 🤔😂
It is an interesting debate, perhaps the nuances are different with music production, idk...
@@STRANJAH I see what you mean but plenty of people remake lots of classic and influential music on yt. There's great ones by point blank music school for example, remaking the tracks of bjork and massive attack to teach producers how it was done. I've got lots out of remaking tunes i like myself in hip hop. But it's a shame some see it as an infringment of their creation. Big ups for atleast trying Stranjah, love your vids. Keep doing what ya do :)
@@oTgNinJAFTW Do you think PBMS haven't approached and discussed the remakes with Björk or Massive Attack / their representatives first? A lot of content on YT is just plain copyright infringement unless the stuff has been put out under creative commons. There seems to be either a huge culture of misunderstanding, ignorance, or just plain not caring, to which, frankly, the whole modern Internet culture is to blame. It's like kids downloading mp3's back in the day and thinking it's OK / fair use / whatever. What you think is fair use or "right/acceptable" is not the same as what it is from a legal or even respectful pov.
@@testinggrounds484 I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree there chief. All art deserves to be free and all art comes from taking what came before it in order to learn the building blocks into making something new. One of the best ways to do this is by remaking tracks you like and just because someone posts their method as a yt video shouldn't mean it gets taken down. The laws of copyright and intellectual property are becoming so strict that soon you won't even be able to play a melody somebody else has played or be inspired by other artists (literally has happened in court numerous times already). Not saying art shouldn't be original but people dissecting a track to learn something about creation shouldn't be discouraged, it's not the same as claiming something is your own. But this is the pathetic state of copyright in 2023, and it's only going to get worse.
@@oTgNinJAFTW I'm not saying art does not deserve to be free nor denying how previous art influences the newer generations of makers nor that it should not influence. What I am saying is that artists and their works should be respected. While one can argue that copying, imitation, or even stealing, is the highest form of flattery, there seems to be this growing culture of plain lazyness where everything needs to be quick and free, without the sweat, blood, and tears - to slightly exaggerate.
People are more than free to dissect any track for learning purposes in the privacy of their own home / studios, but as soon as you take a remake of a track like this online, especially linked with some marketing, it shouldn't come as a surprise that it might result in negative reactions, and most likely from the original artist if you have followed what's been up in the last few years. Now, if Dom & Roland does not want his track to be used in this kind of way, or if he should get a wee mad when he is not asked first, he has every right to do so. Do people have the right to be disappointed? Of course. I am not defending the way he reacted. I do however think I understand well why he reacted so strongly although would've been great to see the track (or any of his other tracks, for that matter) dissected by the man himself.
Caught my attention with Stevie Ray Vaughan. That was who got me into music on a deeper level and loving blues and jazz before discovering DnB and its heavy sampling of those genres. I totally forgot about that collab with David Bowie. Very cool. Would be cool if you did a video on the history of call and response blues and its effect on DnB.
Salute for this one! Dom played here in Sacramento California in 1999 and fell out after hitting our Cali weed after the show (those UK spliffs just don't hit the same haha)! He was reportedly super nice to the promoters and crew and killed it at show. Shoutout to 916 Junglist crew and Billy Lane.
Banning tuts isn't cool...
Essentially, you're being punished... But that's why we do what we do... ❤️🥁+🎸💪🏾
Word up. Especially when considering that the the original Can't Punish Me is all stolen samples, with zero money given to Bowie or anyone else Dom stole from. He's made a whole career off that one hit, and it's ALL samples used without permission.
@@Positive_Tea And you know about how things went back in the day - how? And who else did Dom "steal" from? If you're referring to The Winstons, then point out your finger to the whole damn industry (pun not intended). The whole topic of sampling both in hip hop and edm has been going ad infinitum, so either you're a kid without any knowledge of street and dance music history, or just picking up low hanging fruits for internet points. Either way, not very convincing arguments. Bowie wasn't unaware of his track being sampled by Dom. You don't have any knowledge of their possible mutual agreements nor aggreements between Moving Shadow and Bowie/his label back in the day.
Unless you're Rob Playford. Then it's my bad.
Man like Stranjah 🔥🔥🔥
Loving the sound of this new pack! You are killing it with the new releases lately! Great value in price for what you get, especially with the free ICONS Pack! Thanks so much!!
Ha, this is funny! Ok, lets show everyone how D&R sampled Bowie instead 😂
D&R didnt have a leg to stand on, but fair play for making the nost of the situation!
Keep up the good work.
Dont get old and salty!
Excellent work here Stranjah. Love it. ❤
wait.. you guys aren't using stock ableton OTT?
damn it, missed another premiere! also - SRV... he's one of my top favs! Goat Texan guitarist!
Teach me without teaching me! Bout it bout it
You should've just stem seperated it with no beats
haha that would be taking the piss.. in the end I wanted to be respectful to the artist 😀
@@STRANJAH I meant with the David Bowie sample😂 yeah that would really have pissed off dom if you stemmed his track lol, vip bootleg special 😂🔥🔥
Thank you for the immense popcorn consumption as of late. Its been good hearing your thoughts. Let those gatekeeping hasbeens stay lonely and bitter 🎉
lol I've been thinking about how to create more popcorn content 😆
it must be the metalheadz producers thing, first commix scamming people and dom just being a dropkick, honestly there crew is so rubbish
Great. Now let's have your troll-ass take this one straight up to Goldie, shall we? #stairs
@@testinggrounds484 oh yeah for sure! see him at the top
@@Niko-us5wu 😄
🤣😂🤣 sure
Holy smoke that’s dope!!!
Do a Cause 4 Concern tutorial!!!!
Yeah fair play man. Its weird because I think you made the right move taking it down but at the same time I don't think you should of had to. 😆
If it contained an uncleared sample, thats the only reason I could think of as to why.
Drama aside; cool vid.
thx!
This track rocks
I love Dom + Roland in general and Can't Punish Me and it's various remixes are some of my favorite dnb tracks of all time, but I can't think of any legitimate reason why an artist would discourage this type of tutorial on a 20+ year old track. Assuming Stranjah is telling the truth and not just trying to avoid RUclips algorithm censorship (possible), Dom comes off as kind of a jerk here (I don't think it would be an issue with his label making decisions against Dom's wishes since I think he has controlled his own label for quite a while now).
Yeah we’ve gone back and forth and I’ve heard him out and he has his reasons not to be happy. And to be fair I have done some research and this whole RUclips covers thing is a bit of a grey area. Technically from what I understand you do require permissions granted from labels or artists. But most labels don’t bother taking the videos down because it’s a net positive in terms of promo for them. So it really comes down to the artists preferences. It’s a learning experience and I’m still trying to figure out how to navigate it in the future as not all artist are reachable, if I wanted to ask for their blessing.
@@STRANJAH Legal debates about intellectual property aside, I wonder what, in Dom's own mind, he considers proprietary about the track. And if he were Daft Punk, would be object to the same treatment being done to Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger showing how it's essentially Coke Bottle Baby sped up with some FX.
Especially in the case of dnb, where I imagine a large percent of the track is sampled from music Dom didn't create himself. What specific filter sweeps or bass EQ settings does he think are State Secrets, that you unlocked by pure happenstance but is too dangerous to unleash upon the world at large?
I don't see what justification he has to try to prevent you from showing the world what techniques he used decades ago to make music. You'd think he would welcome this type of thing to not only show how ahead of the game he was back then, but also bring his music to a new generation of listeners. Compare that to guys like Sub Focus or yourself (and many other dnb pioneers who were in the forums since back in the old days) who painstakingly try to teach the craft to anyone interested.
All of my music (admittedly nothing as good as Can't Punish Me) I consider free for the world, and I'd happily send DAW project files to anyone interested enough to want to remix. This situation feels like Lars Ulrich circa 1998 and makes me lose a lot of respect for Dom, unfortunately.
@@chadwilson2528every sound on Can't Punish Me is samples used without permission! Dom is on some bullshit with this one. He's made his whole career with that tune, all stolen sounds from others.
@@chadwilson2528 Yes that is a good debate because the music we adore is built on the foundations of sampling
What a stupid move from such respected producer like Dom. 😢
Wonder if he’s still bent outta shape bc of the Tramen break
He is probably just writing and producing great tracks for some of the best labels in this scene like he has been for 30 years +
One of my faves from back in the day…shame :(
I can understand an artist not wanting their methods being disclosed. Maybe it’s not a possessive gesture as much as it is a privacy thing. Some artists have an intimate relationship with their art and this type of exposure may corrupt or impurify the process, in their eyes.
Or show that it was easy to make and not much too it?
@@ASH-ou4cg😂
Honestly, i always liked his music and we've booked him at a couple fo events in the past. Unfortunately it's a caee of don't meet your heros! The guy is just a grumpy, self entitled, arrogant bell end! Really unfriendly and just thinks of himself as a better person than anyone else... so, long story short, I'm not at all surprised he reacted like that! 🤦 don't sweat it man!
You shouldn't talk about Stranjah like that on his own video. Rude!
@@lowrecoil 😂 if that were the case, that would indeed be a bit rude!
my god dom and roland are such clowns, cant believe that this has come to. production classes being removed, do you man and dont let these stains ruin it for everybody
Hey you leave Roland out of this.
Dom and Roland is one guy: Dom, and his Roland. Shouldn’t judge either way tbh- we don’t know the full story. Peace!
Roland did all the work, Dom just gave the orders.
The karen of drum and bass. On a serious note I can understand it. Tracks are being uploaded to UKF where a copycat has just youtubed 'sound like' tutorials and just robbed the foruma that the original creator put the time into creating (sub focus, dimensions etc...) . UKF and other labels / youtube channels should stop promoting copycats. Learning other peoples techniques is probably the best tool one can use to become a better producer but shouldn't just rip people off
Why can’t these guys show all these production techniques with their own tracks ? Because they get about 50% less views
Nice
Way to turn disappointment into a fire tutorial!
yet again another example of professional musicians not understanding music... Still though great video keep up the good work!
I don't think it would have been a problem if you didn't plaster the video with your sample pack. It didn't look like a tutorial, it looked like an ad that you were using someone else's music to promote.
Oh, it seems like I might have gone a bit overboard with the self-promotion, hasn't it? Like turning a cooking show into a non-stop infomercial for a set of pans. I appreciate your perspective and will definitely aim for more tutorial and less QVC in future videos. Cheers for the feedback!
It's not as if anybody has sampled this before🤣😂🤣😂🤣
"politics man fning politics"
Why tf would you f@£k with someone else’s art
bro, you obeyed his orders? you should block and release anyway. Just because he is insecure doesn't mean you can't make music
Dude that’s a hella weak move from dom and Rolland I was really looking forward to it. I’m sorry but you should have gone forward with it who cares
It's called respect bruh...
@@lowrecoil You are assuming anyone using a line like "hella weak" would understand. MFing kids these days, damn...
removing comments ?
Did not mayne RUclips’s algo
The irony of Dom & Roland complaining about you disclosing his "production secrets" when the track in question has a highly recognizable sample of another artist as it's centerpiece... Either you're comfortable with artists leaning on each other's work and techniques or you aren't. Pick a lane.
Oh you know what went on with Moving Shadow, Dom, and David Bowie? Do tell.
Wow. Lame dom. Would of thought he'd respect the love.
Hahahaha sorry had to!
ffs this is really disappointing 😢
1st
Great decision, Stranjah, but what's with this thumbnail and the word banned in all caps? To my understanding, you did not reach to Dom & Roland before doing a video and remake of one of his most classic and well-known tunes. Do correct me if I'm wrong here. Frankly, I don't quite fathom how you did not come to think how taking a tune like that and including a sample pack with the purpose of marketing it could lead to this kind of result, especially with someone like Dom. Don't get me wrong, I think you're doing a great thing with your channel and the tutorials and all, but this one was just handled badly, plain and simple. It does not help that this current vid, especially the thumbnails and scrutinizing the Bowie sound, comes off as passive-aggressive, especially when you talk about Dom in past tense at the beginning. He's been putting out quality stuff to this day as you later on mention as well. Dom could have definitely handled his reaction much better in many ways, but I am still surprised how so many people do not seem to understand what caused his reaction and where it stems from. Instead, they just attack him with ad hominem taking things to the discussion which have nothing to do with the whole remake shutdown.
To add, anyone trying to explain how the Doc was cool with the 'Shadow Boxing' tutorial so Dom should've this and that - no. Two different geezers with two different mentalities. Doesn't work that way.
Hi Dom.
@@jeffsymons7084 Oh yes - because if you do not join the bully bandwagon you must be the man himself. FFS...
@@testinggrounds484 Nobody is being bullied here. Dom made a choice to take a certain stance on this issue and people are well within their rights to have an opinion about it. All of your many replies to everyone here seem like you are taking this way too personally for someone who isn't Dom or directly connected to Dom.
Stranjah was asked not to do the tutorial, and he didn't. But you are still mad. Stranjah was respectful, he spent the first minute of the video telling everyone what a great artist and technical producer Dom is. But you are still mad. Stranjah pinned a comment asking everyone to be positive and respectful to Dom. But you are still mad.
Honestly you seem a bit unhinged Dom.
@@jeffsymons7084 Jeff, please - spare me of the trolling, will you? "Mad", "unhinged"... come on.
I'm not referring to comments just in this YT video's comment section, but to people's reactions in general regarding this effing storm in a teacup. Neither am I denying that people cannot have an opinion about this, whatever it might be, of course they can. If you're civil and respectful about it, great, but if not - in kind. A lot of comments have not been that.
Talking about taking things personally, you might want to look again at people's responses here and there if this comment section is your only source of reference. Yeah, sure, there is Dom's initial reaction which was a full on knee-jerk emotional backlash, but that can be understood to some extent (except for the unnecessary dis towards Stranjah and their samples). But then there's a lot of Stranjah's fans going apeshit and start attacking Dom - over what? His initial reaction, regardless of his posts afterwards where he explained his response and apologized his primal reaction? Over him not wanting his track being used in the context he explained? Asking Strahjah not to do the remake? Yeah...
Stranjah did not proceed with the tutorial. Great move from his side, kudos. Of course it would've been cool to see the end result but, at least in my opinion, his approach was wrong to begin with. The aspects in his video I was referring to still do give a slightly vindictive, p-a vibe. During the first minute you're referring it slightly feels he talks about Dom as he's some has-been but might be that's just me, then. I do hope it's unintentional and he does talk about him later on as well with praise (not that he would need to). That's why I asked him about it above. Well in my rights, wouldn’t you say? I admit I could've had a less pressing tone, perhaps. Still, seems like if one's not in the bandwagon of rolling one's eyes over the remake being cancelled, harshly dissing Dom, and not giving critical feedback to Stranjah about this, one's not in the group for popular kids.
Anyway, taking part in this whole topic has been a complete waste of time. Nevertheless thought I'd reply to you out of courtesy. Going to leave it here.
@@testinggrounds484 Ok Dom
LEAVE DOM & ROLAND ALONE!!!!!
This. :D