Greetings, just found your channel. I have 2 mini bikes, one is a Massimo Warrior mb200 (which is a rebranded baja warrior) it has a predator non hemi 212cc wit a billet flywheel, +.020 billet rod, hot265 cam, thin head gasket, stainless steel valves with 26lb valve springs, and a vm22 carb. My other is a trailmaster mb200-2 with the factory 196cc with the billet rod and billet flywheel, cm cam, 26lb valve springs, and a vm22 carb. These are great little engines with a few mods
The choke lever to the left is choked. Moved to the right is choke off. Pulling the governor is never a good idea unless you do not care about shortened engine life and the possibility of catastrophic failure. Governor removal should only be done at the time of an engine build. There's nothing wrong with the governor/throttle linkage. It's a 30 year old Honda design that is still used to this day. The only negative is the Coleman return spring which is too long and can bind. I shorten the spring and use a small spring like you used here. I run built engines with the stock linkage and governor. Both bikes are 45 MPH plus. One of my bikes runs to more than 50 MPH at 5600 RPM. The Hisun 196 is a good quality clone engine. Easily a better quality engine than the 196's that Harbor Freight sold prior to the Predator coming out. It's too bad so many of them have been abused and ruined then called junk by those who ruin them.
also instead of drillin and tappin that old governor hole you could have just cut the arm off the shaft and put it back in the case. that way if a governor is ever wanted to be reinstalled the hole isnt all messed up. just sayin
@ I notice small shaving in the oil so I open it And was in the engine I clean it up and put back together So the question is will oil still be able to circulate without it
Hello I have the same problem of when I turn it on it was to go but what happend was when I was riding I found the throttle return spring on the ground bent it a little then put it back on and the. It stated making the problem
That Fly Wheel Is Weighted For A Governed Engine , It Needs A Aluminum Billet Fly Wheel, A Much Lighter One Because Of The RPMs It Will Be Doing. That Heavy Fly Wheel Doing Those Kinds Of New RPMs Will Get Destroyed & Do Major Damage To That Engine. That Old Fly Wheel Is Not Designed For That.
Jon I have to disagree. I’ve seen lots of ungoverned engines run with their original flywheels and never cause damage. You’re not in the business of selling aluminum flywheels are you?
@user-ru7he6qj2w Not only that. With enough run time above 5K RPM he's going to ruin the rod. And what they do is run it right into valve float then find out from youtube videos that they need 18 lb valve springs which makes matters worse. It's a shame because the Hisun 196 is a pretty good engine. I just opened my nearly 7 year old Hisun for a mild performance build and it looks great. It will get a billet rod and cast aluminum flywheel.
Lots of sketchy stuff here good idea to put a couple sizes bigger pilot jet in while working on carb. These engines are notoriously lean from factory for epa reasons and they start much easier with less choking.
How are you going to repair anything when you don't understand the mechanics of the choke?! You now have it in the on position which helps you start it and then you move it right to the off position to see if it stay running! It will not go nor sound right when you give it gas! 😂😭🤣😭😂😭🤣
That's an incorrect assumption and not surprising. It's clear that the owner of the bike worked on it trying to get more speed. And then gives the bike to a guy who doesn't know what he's doing troubleshooting with the choke on. That's a 15 minute fix and a faster bike when done, if you know what you're doing.
Nice watching you trouble shoot the problem. I hope you removed the washer on the governor it just setting behind the weights. Iv’e watched a few and just my observation. Carry on
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Greetings, just found your channel. I have 2 mini bikes, one is a Massimo Warrior mb200 (which is a rebranded baja warrior) it has a predator non hemi 212cc wit a billet flywheel, +.020 billet rod, hot265 cam, thin head gasket, stainless steel valves with 26lb valve springs, and a vm22 carb. My other is a trailmaster mb200-2 with the factory 196cc with the billet rod and billet flywheel, cm cam, 26lb valve springs, and a vm22 carb. These are great little engines with a few mods
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I’m sure people have already said this but you know you still have it on choke it runs better with choke off
I am building a Ducar 212 and I will be doing all of this tonight. 275 cam, billet Rod, 24mm carb and exhaust, should run pretty good for my needs.
That is exciting! Is it for a minibike?
The choke lever to the left is choked. Moved to the right is choke off.
Pulling the governor is never a good idea unless you do not care about shortened engine life and the possibility of catastrophic failure. Governor removal should only be done at the time of an engine build.
There's nothing wrong with the governor/throttle linkage. It's a 30 year old Honda design that is still used to this day. The only negative is the Coleman return spring which is too long and can bind. I shorten the spring and use a small spring like you used here. I run built engines with the stock linkage and governor. Both bikes are 45 MPH plus. One of my bikes runs to more than 50 MPH at 5600 RPM.
The Hisun 196 is a good quality clone engine. Easily a better quality engine than the 196's that Harbor Freight sold prior to the Predator coming out. It's too bad so many of them have been abused and ruined then called junk by those who ruin them.
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@@quintinalvarez3922laughing like 🤡
try some carb spray around the intake, you have a gasket leak.
I have the exact bike one ride and the throttle was stuck open. Exact symptoms your was having. Did you ever locate the problem?
That dark inboard spring looks to have too much slack in it as if its in wrong hole
If you do pull the governor , you need to put heavier vavle springs in , i believe 18 lb springs and yes there was nothing wrong with that governor
also instead of drillin and tappin that old governor hole you could have just cut the arm off the shaft and put it back in the case. that way if a governor is ever wanted to be reinstalled the hole isnt all messed up. just sayin
On mine the oil dipper broke is it still safe to ride
Did it fall into the engine? I do not recommend running an engine with a foreign object in it.
@ I notice small shaving in the oil so I open it And was in the engine
I clean it up and put back together
So the question is will oil still be able to circulate without it
The dipper/splashed is there for a reason, I would replace it.
Will the link to that whole pull start mechanism bolt right on to the engine or will I have to just replace the coil
I’m not sure what link to the pull start you are talking about? The pull start will not get in the way of the new throttle set up.
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You need a clutch. A common problem nothing to do with the linkages. As others have said turn the choke off when it warms up.
Hello I have the same problem of when I turn it on it was to go but what happend was when I was riding I found the throttle return spring on the ground bent it a little then put it back on and the. It stated making the problem
You didn’t remove the washer that’s on the govern wheel shaft. It will vibrate and ruin the engine eventually.
That Fly Wheel Is Weighted For A Governed Engine , It Needs A Aluminum Billet Fly Wheel, A Much Lighter One Because Of The RPMs It Will Be Doing. That Heavy Fly Wheel Doing Those Kinds Of New RPMs Will Get Destroyed & Do Major Damage To That Engine. That Old Fly Wheel Is Not Designed For That.
Jon I have to disagree. I’ve seen lots of ungoverned engines run with their original flywheels and never cause damage. You’re not in the business of selling aluminum flywheels are you?
@@MikesGarageShop Ha Ha Ha . your Funny. Ok You Will Find Out Yourself
@user-ru7he6qj2w Not only that. With enough run time above 5K RPM he's going to ruin the rod. And what they do is run it right into valve float then find out from youtube videos that they need 18 lb valve springs which makes matters worse.
It's a shame because the Hisun 196 is a pretty good engine. I just opened my nearly 7 year old Hisun for a mild performance build and it looks great. It will get a billet rod and cast aluminum flywheel.
1/4" hole is smaller than standard for 5/16" tap😂
Lots of sketchy stuff here good idea to put a couple sizes bigger pilot jet in while working on carb. These engines are notoriously lean from factory for epa reasons and they start much easier with less choking.
Great video,keep up the good work
Thanks!
Who is going to tell him
I did
How are you going to repair anything when you don't understand the mechanics of the choke?! You now have it in the on position which helps you start it and then you move it right to the off position to see if it stay running! It will not go nor sound right when you give it gas! 😂😭🤣😭😂😭🤣
Wow no comment
Wrong turn chock off !!!!! It was off ,!!!!! Leave it !!!!;;;
There wasn't anything wrong with that bike the governor was on the whole time. You took that bike apart for no reason. But you live and learn.
That's an incorrect assumption and not surprising. It's clear that the owner of the bike worked on it trying to get more speed. And then gives the bike to a guy who doesn't know what he's doing troubleshooting with the choke on. That's a 15 minute fix and a faster bike when done, if you know what you're doing.
Nice watching you trouble shoot the problem. I hope you removed the washer on the governor it just setting behind the weights. Iv’e watched a few and just my observation. Carry on
Thanks!
Take the choke off
Duh
Slap on a $30 vm22 carb and be done
I can see that as a solution. Some people love diagnosing the problem, some like to use it as a reason to upgrade.