Make the walk ways Cement and water Proof it if you can and make it where it's wide enough you can use a golf cart to travel it. And why don't why have technology where it can show where there maybe a break in the line like out I don't know Sensors in the in the line so many miles I don't know maybe I'm thinking to deep but thing lines above the ground is stupid
@@PahotamIt's not stupid, it's cheaper. It's also easier to make repairs and find faults. We can put sensors and things to pinpoint faults more easily, but that adds even more complexity and cost.
Good idea plus during storms winter ice or severe winds they be protected and we won't leave us without power some countries in Pennsylvania have underground power lines
The arguments against not burying power lines are mostly bogus, because they lines have to be replaced about every 40 years, and they can simply be installed underground at that replacement time. About 25 years ago Arvada, Colorado, passed a simply local ordinance. It permanently froze the number of utility poles at the number then existing. This forced all new utility services underground. It also indirectly gave an incentive to the power company to facilitate individual homeowner decisions in favor of underground service when it reduced the need for a pole, so that pole authority could be used elsewhere in the city. Seeing how easily Russia has disrupted Ukraine's electric service, the issue should also be approached as one of national security. It is much harder to disrupt underground line. New York City even has underground substations. Cities with above ground utility lines are ugly is also a tourism consideration, besides one of local views. Anymore people can preview any city they want to visit by just using Google Street View when trip planning. High voltage transmission lines are a different case. Utilities resist moving those underground because the overhead wires are bare, uninsulated wires kept from grounding by ceramic insulators on poles and towers. Buried they would need to be insulated, and for pragmatic reasons also run in continuous conduits to make line repairs and replacements easier. When we converted the electric service of our previous home (which was served by the last power pole on the line), we had to pay the undepreciated cost of the wire removed and exactly $1 more a month for wire maintenance (the extra cost of digging up a line to repair an electrical short, before splicing the line).
Well if you do it right you want have to dig it up if you make it deep enough where you can stand and ever 10 miles or so put a point where you can go and walk it be like a big long walk way and if you want make it wide enough where you can use a Golf cart. To travel it
Why all these excuses? I live in a PUC and electrical infrastructure is all underground, makes the neighbor look nicer and really, no problem with outages. The outages happen when a tree falls on power lines outside my community.
The money given to Ukraine is in the here and now. No utilities will even consider a let us bury all power lines this year plan, ever. Power lines are depreciated over 40 years and then replaced with new wire. Putting all the lines underground over the service life of the wires (40 years) only adds the cost of burying the lines to existing costs minus the money saved with few power poles. The monthly add to utility bills would be from $1 to $3 per month for a residence. In return your entire neighborhood will look better and the value of the homes will rise, because part of the assessed value is the view component.
In my city the 10 feet from the curb toward the building is a right of way easement. That is where utility lines usually run, although for replacement service is can be easier to remove a narrow strip of asphalt to bury the lines, like to relocate transformers for home services. There are machines to tunnel under sidewalks and driveways for line installation or replacement. The replacement asphalt when that was done in front of our current home was in mint condition and seamless with the other asphalt. The work is obviously easier where cobblestones are used and free floating cement blocks, as in parts of Boston. I have yet to see water, dirt, cement, or trees disrupt buried electrical service. The lines for streets are either under the street protected by the paving material, or buried 6 feet deep. In fact when I ran provision for future utilities and electric lines I simply installed empty electrical and gas conduits. The gas one is 18 inches deep, per the gas company, and the others are 24 inches deep. Line location is a free service so you have that done before digging to avoid being charged if you cut into a line by accident.
I've been saying this for 30 years but the energy companies won't pay the cost,dispite the shit of no power they won't put them under ground
Finding faults is challenging, especially when you have dozens of manholes under water and half to be pumped.
Make the walk ways Cement and water Proof it if you can and make it where it's wide enough you can use a golf cart to travel it. And why don't why have technology where it can show where there maybe a break in the line like out I don't know Sensors in the in the line so many miles I don't know maybe I'm thinking to deep but thing lines above the ground is stupid
@@PahotamIt's not stupid, it's cheaper. It's also easier to make repairs and find faults. We can put sensors and things to pinpoint faults more easily, but that adds even more complexity and cost.
This is one ugly thing about Boston that I notice every time I go back there to visit, with all the other far more modern cities in which I've lived.
Good idea plus during storms winter ice or severe winds they be protected and we won't leave us without power some countries in Pennsylvania have underground power lines
Save electricity.! Don't replace that lightbulb ! ( vote for the problem to solve itself ) I won't feel so alone voting for that.
The arguments against not burying power lines are mostly bogus, because they lines have to be replaced about every 40 years, and they can simply be installed underground at that replacement time. About 25 years ago Arvada, Colorado, passed a simply local ordinance. It permanently froze the number of utility poles at the number then existing. This forced all new utility services underground. It also indirectly gave an incentive to the power company to facilitate individual homeowner decisions in favor of underground service when it reduced the need for a pole, so that pole authority could be used elsewhere in the city.
Seeing how easily Russia has disrupted Ukraine's electric service, the issue should also be approached as one of national security. It is much harder to disrupt underground line. New York City even has underground substations. Cities with above ground utility lines are ugly is also a tourism consideration, besides one of local views. Anymore people can preview any city they want to visit by just using Google Street View when trip planning.
High voltage transmission lines are a different case. Utilities resist moving those underground because the overhead wires are bare, uninsulated wires kept from grounding by ceramic insulators on poles and towers. Buried they would need to be insulated, and for pragmatic reasons also run in continuous conduits to make line repairs and replacements easier. When we converted the electric service of our previous home (which was served by the last power pole on the line), we had to pay the undepreciated cost of the wire removed and exactly $1 more a month for wire maintenance (the extra cost of digging up a line to repair an electrical short, before splicing the line).
That would add costs to your electric bill
Because the rats would eat them
I am sure that was a retorical question. !! ??
Umm maybe in shithole NYC but not in rural Massachusetts
What about squirrels and birds.
why dont we put all our power lines underground ? The answer is it America 😂😂😂😂😂
Well if you do it right you want have to dig it up if you make it deep enough where you can stand and ever 10 miles or so put a point where you can go and walk it be like a big long walk way and if you want make it wide enough where you can use a Golf cart. To travel it
Why all these excuses? I live in a PUC and electrical infrastructure is all underground, makes the neighbor look nicer and really, no problem with outages. The outages happen when a tree falls on power lines outside my community.
Have fun with higher electric bills if they do put lines underground
according to cbs boston cost 22-55 billion to undergrounds which is no common sense estimate.
Mean while both Texas and New York want 50+ billion to make a wall in the ocean instead of just not building near the coast. Smdh.
Because they don't want to lose money 😅
Its impossible
That’s an idea…I mean, it is the 21st century (will never happen)
😄😄😄
That's more money than we gave to ukraine
Ukraine has definitely gotten enough from us as we should worry more about our own starving vets and homeless but that's just my opinion
The money given to Ukraine is in the here and now. No utilities will even consider a let us bury all power lines this year plan, ever. Power lines are depreciated over 40 years and then replaced with new wire. Putting all the lines underground over the service life of the wires (40 years) only adds the cost of burying the lines to existing costs minus the money saved with few power poles. The monthly add to utility bills would be from $1 to $3 per month for a residence. In return your entire neighborhood will look better and the value of the homes will rise, because part of the assessed value is the view component.
Nikola Tesla had a solution 😊
Underground, so u will deal with water flow and dirt and cement and tree come on, man
In my city the 10 feet from the curb toward the building is a right of way easement. That is where utility lines usually run, although for replacement service is can be easier to remove a narrow strip of asphalt to bury the lines, like to relocate transformers for home services. There are machines to tunnel under sidewalks and driveways for line installation or replacement. The replacement asphalt when that was done in front of our current home was in mint condition and seamless with the other asphalt. The work is obviously easier where cobblestones are used and free floating cement blocks, as in parts of Boston. I have yet to see water, dirt, cement, or trees disrupt buried electrical service. The lines for streets are either under the street protected by the paving material, or buried 6 feet deep. In fact when I ran provision for future utilities and electric lines I simply installed empty electrical and gas conduits. The gas one is 18 inches deep, per the gas company, and the others are 24 inches deep. Line location is a free service so you have that done before digging to avoid being charged if you cut into a line by accident.
Sounds like he has common sense.