Did you know that some species of frog can survive freezing? When the wood frog, found in North America, begins to freeze it releases sugar--from its liver--into its bloodstream. That sugar travels to its tissues where it helps keep cells from dehydrating and shrinking. Cool, right? Sadly, we humans don’t have this adaptation and with cryonics we’d be frozen AFTER we’re already dead (these incredible frogs are still alive!). So, no dice.
Why does the person have to be dead though? As we get better at sequencing and modifying genes we should be able to adapt similar traits to the frogs. Then medically induce a coma and start to slowly freeze a live person
What about the freezing of animals CHOOSER to us though? I thought there were some done with rabbits or something that survived for 43 days or something along those lines?
how about putting another preparation for injecting something along with defreezing process ? assisted adaptation/augmented adaptation or something ? how about a dog, or cats instead of euthanase it ask for it as donor, or cat or fish..., elephant, dinosaurus.... hmm maybe its already working already, but the school just want to keep ppl paying for this research... ill name it chambers of solitude, and we'll get out like prometheus...
Eh. I know people act like it’s instant when they pass out for a few moments or something. But even tho your not conscious I was passed out for 24 hours and dead for 5 minutes after a OD. I wasn’t conscious to experience time, but it didn’t feel instant at all. It just felt like how you feel after you went to sleep and woke up. Not instant. From my personal experience
@@brycew7731 Sure but your brain isn't off when you're unconscious. If everything in your brain is perfectly preserved, it should feel just an instant.
@Walter White Actually more than likely you’d be treated like a virus...Imagine all the sickness/disease we could cure over those 1000 years (3021). All those cures and such would make our immune system weaker over time. So if you time traveled 1000 years forward, let’s say with a cold...You could potentially destroy their society
I think preserving the connections between neurons is more important than keeping the cells alive. It's possible that the cells could be repaired after dying in the future.
I think you are very right. I'm very sure the people who have been frozen now aren't going to be alive ever again. Our technology isn't up there *yet*. The neurons need to be sustained pretty much perfectly which isn't the case at all right now. Besides that, if you want to have an actual chance (in the future), you should be frozen alive. However, this isn't legalized yet. At the moment cryogenic freezing is basically a waste of money.
@@JH-ed4mm Don't make sense to me You are just building a clone not reviving about you if cells are damage But this leads to question what you consider you and what not
I would rather have my dead body in a cryonic tube with a nearly impossible chance of coming back, then be permanently burnt to dust, or having my bones discarded once my grave lease has expired.
The whole point of cryonics is a bet on technologies of the FUTURE, not the capabilities of the past or present, which is why most of this video isn't relevant. As long as the neurons can be successfully preserved, that's all that's important for now. If advanced molecular nanotechnology comes to pass within the next couple of decades (as predicted), we should have a pathway for either repairing all the damage and reviving the "corpsicle," or copying the brain pattern to reconstruct it in a computer architecture (which could "live" in a virtual world or be downloaded to an advanced robotic form that is perhaps indistinguishable from humans). So what are the odds of this occurring and people being revived? 50%? 10%? 1%? Well, if you DON'T get cryogenically frozen, the odds of being revived are exactly 0%. So if you have the money, what do you have to lose? You can't take it with you....
Thank you! This video was such bullshit! Only thing I think u got wrong is that a copy of someone's brain isn't them. Copying ur mind doesn't save ur life since there's no continuity of consciousness.
@@janek8195 That is a debate that lots of philosophers have had arguments about in both directions. I personally tend to the other side. For a start, in deep sleep and especially anaesthesia, the neurons aren't doing much, so continuity is already lost.
@@janek8195 No. I think continuity of consciousness is a silly way to define personal identity. So long as I have the same memories, personality etc I'm still me. Discontinuities from being asleep don't matter.
I am signed up for Cryonics so I have read this stuff .. You CAN NOT legally get frozen before CERTIFIED death, to do so would be as the law is currently murder.
Am I the only one who reads these comments and thinks about someone reading them and laughing at them 200 years later? btw if you are from the future feel free to revive me somehow, we can have a fun conversation :D
Because, think about how vastly our bodily functions differ from any other organism vic versa. Sure there are similarities we can find here and there, but when discussing Cryogenics is an extremely sensitive process that would require the utmost detailed solutions within and throughout. From what happens when we die on a cellular level, to what happens during the time our cells remain frozen. Our bodies are an incredibly complex powerhouse of chemicals and functions flowing in all kinds of specified directions. Also include other variable like , avg rate humans decompose at, normally and while frozen, the time frozen, specific cause of death, the fact the subject has died already so we’d also have to pretty much bring a mummy to life based on the knowledge of how they died, technically a cure to that illness plus some resuscitation. And an infinite number of other variables. I feel freezing and unfreezing will do nothing but just preserve a dead body. Maybe a scam, and maybe one day they’ll have to throw all their customers out. Literally
How I see it. It doesn't matter how damaged the body is now when you freeze it. It only matters how advanced technology we have to resurrect these people. I think that most even damaged people can be resurrected in perfect condition given time. It might take 1000 years to get that point, but it doesn't matter. For me if I got money and I was close to death I would choose to freeze myself. It is risks but better than to be dead for sure.
@@Never-mind1960 Chance of reanimation with cryonics - fairly small Chance of reanimation without cryonics - a bit smaller. (I don't want to say with confidence that future tech can't pull this off somehow. The future may have some Very advanced tech.)
Look, at liquid nitrogen temperatures, the atoms aren't doing anything. They are pretty messed up, but they aren't getting any more messed up. It isn't truely indefinite, some things are happening very slowly. But those things take 100's of years.
I read a book once, about an old man who did this to himself and was very rich obviously, and when he woke up his body was on display in a museum with all his memories being shown up on tvs, there were wires coursing through his veins, and he was stuck inside the glass chamber, while people looked at him, unable to move. I felt bad for him if he had social anxiety that must have been a nightmare.
I would pay $400,000 to be reanimated in 200 years. That seems a pretty solid investment. Because cryonics has more uses than giving hope to the dying, it has implications for space travel, and preservation, its slowly building into an industry all it’s own. It wont be long before before SpaceX or Google buys up some of these smaller companies. We are at the very start of a snowball effect and in the next 30 years we will see cryogenics boom as an industry. I see real hope in the future. Even if it dosnt work, its not like you’ll miss the money.
exactly. if you don't have any heritage or have enough money to invest in cryonics, i think it won't an extra 400k that your family would be missing. personally, this is the best close scenario right now and i think it's worth taking a shot if you have that desire of coming back...
jonas90 AND! Life insurance can pay for a huge portion of the costs as well. Some of the cryonics companies out there work with your insurance and don’t need much, or, any out of pocket money.
Not that much related, but on a side note, i think it's more possible that science in the next 100 years helps our life expectancy increases to double (~160-170 years old) that our actual amount than to restore dead frozen people. Still, i think it's worth taking a shot if you have the money and still scientifically possible (but remote) if you believe.
As a nursing home nurse, I can tell you right now that nobody wants to live that long. We had a patient who was 106 and all she wanted was to die, she was in good health and sound mounded too, many of our patients are over 100 and none of them wants to live longer, for some is actually a torture, many of them pray and beg everyday to just die.
@@MeganVictoriaKearns not everyone but most of them, the ones that don’t want to die are just scared of death and they get anxious about it, but the rest they come to terms with it and just wait for it, many are eager to die, they are fed up with life, before working in a nursing home I didn’t know how normal it was for the elderly to say that they want to die, now I’m amazed how many times they say it just in a day very common behavior.
@@HAIRHOLIC_1 Wow. That's so sad but somehow fascinating to me for some reason. I was only close to my grandparents on my Mom's side, and they died at age 63 and 68. So I don't have much experience talking with elderly people or people with their health in a poor enough condition to necessitate living in a nursing home or assisted living. Anyway, thank you for the reply. As I said, I was very curious about what you had to say on this subject. Thanks again! 😊💜💜💜
@@Random_userr Does she talk about it like she is just discussing an inevitable event in her life? Given her age, I mean, she knows it's going to happen one day. Or is she talking about it like she's ready to go? Like she's looking forward to passing on?
It would be just my luck for my brain to wake up, and realize I was cryogenically frozen, but be unable to move, or speak, or even let anyone know that I was alive! Can you imagine spending hundreds of years in that state? It is like surgical awareness that sometimes occurs to a patient under anesthesia, who is undergoing surgery. They are aware of what is going on, but paralyzed, and cannot let anyone know.
She's a hater! At the end she said you can literally spend your money on anything else. Cryogenics gives people hope! I'm fighting to live, not living to die.
This video would have been better if you had discussed the topic with cryonics proponents to get a clear picture of their actual claims and positions. It's generally assumed that some form of molecular repair, or something equivalent, will be needed *before* the cells are thawed, so all the talk about cells surviving thawing or not is irrelevant. Cryonicists don't mainly fear ice crystals because they kill cells, but because ice crystals mechanically displace and scramble tissues in ways which are not fully understood, and there's a risk that the healthy state of the neuron can't be inferred from its damaged state, so even molecular repair would be useless. It may well be that the information is preserved after all, even in straight frozen brains, but vitrified brains look much better under the microscope, with our limited observation technologies, so it seems a safer bet. It's true that cell viability is emphasized as a convenient and useful proxy to measure the general quality of the cryopreservation, but the growing interest among many cronicists in effective but very lethal techniques such as ASC (aldehyde-stabilized cryopreservation) goes to show that for them it's ultimately about preserving information, not cell viability as such. The way ice crystals damage cells is not accurately portrayed either. For starters, the cooling process in cryonics (at least in the old protocols that invoved significant ice formation) is very slow, to avoid the formation of intracellular ice. Again, not because intracellular ice takes up more space than liquid water, but because it tends to displace, crush (not burst) and otherwise damage organelles, membranes and other vital parts of the cell. Now, extracellular ice tends to remove water from cells, IOW cells are dehydrated to the point they collapse (not burst) and are chemically damaged by the rising ion concentration. This ice can also displace and mechanically damage the extracellular matrix, and dislodge cells from their original spots. The point of the worm experiment is to show that memories can survive LN2 temperatures. We already knew they survive a flat EEG and near-freezing temperatures in humans, and we already knew that some relatively large animals like frogs survive freezing (but not to LN2 temperatures) and that tiny animals like C elegans survive freezing to LN2 temperatures, but we didn't know whether these remember anything after behing thawed. Now we do.
I feel like even if you were frozen with Cryogenics, you wouldn't wake up how you would expect it. For all we know, their opinions on human rights could even be a lot different from now. They might throw us into a simulation, and make us replay our past lives over and over again to obtain information about the past. (I would hate it, but its still a possibility.) Or we might already be revived, and are recuperating in some kind of "Past Generator" that helps our brains recall our memories so we don't go into shock when our minds are revived. You know, I've had some vivid and short dreams of the future since I was young. I would have short visions then they would occur in real life out of nowhere. As if it was replaying something that had already happened. However, I usually immediately forget about these visions after waking up, and they only come back to me when I experience them in real life. It just clicks like: "Ah, this is that dream I had back then..." I've actually managed to make a few small changes, but the butterfly effect doesn't really do what we expect it to. Its like the past and future try to patch things together to conserve energy. The other dreams that I had before still pop up as well. If you're wondering, there isn't a set sequence in which these dreams happen. Dream 1 could happen after Dream 2, and vice versa. Still, these dreams happen anyway. Despite the small changes I make. Recently however, its become more difficult to make any changes. As if I were being monitored and forced to follow the timeline. By the time I remember something, its already happened, or I remember in that moment and end up following the set path anyway. I've also had moments where in those dreams I realize that its a future vision, and tell myself to try and change it. Like sitting down at a computer screen, then getting up as if someone was coming. Trying to open the door and catch them to prove the future. I proceed to then follow the dream exactly without a single change like I realize its that vision dream, and I get up from the computer thinking someone is coming and open the door. But no one comes. By the time all of this ends, I realize that I just followed some kind of set determined path despite realizing it was going to happen. Believe me or not about this, but I feel like I may not be the only person in this world this happens to. There must be something more than what we humans know about reality and how it works. Perhaps science is just a way of satisfying our doubts and preventing us from finding out the truth. Or maybe science is something that is built along the way, and appears out of thin air to fill in the holes that get left behind in our reality. Does anyone else happen to get the same kind of vision dreams by any chance?
I remember some thing like this when I was a kid. I would have visions of something literally happening a minute after or somewhere in the future. I was very lucky alot and would know and be confident at certain things. For example if Ihad to choose a number between 1-100 and if you choose the right number you would win a prize. I would just know what the number was (I don't know why). But stuff like this sadly doesn't happen anymore.
Science is following the scientific model, which can not describe the supernatural. You need religion for that. Edit: lol I didn't even know I already commented 6 months ago.
I do believe that someday maybe in the near future humans will be able to live forever or for a long time at least, i think it’s easier for scientists to make a human being keep living than bringing back a frozen corpse
Some time ago i saw a post telling about a young girl with deasease that couldnt be cured nowadays. She wished to be frozen so she would be revived many years later when it would be possible to cure her. Not sure about more details.
Sure. So the frozen corpses only get brought back 100 years after immortality is invented. So what? (Or actually 5 minutes after, because once superhuman AI starts inventing stuff, science progress happens FAST!)
If you freeze yourself hoping to come back to life in the future.. what about the cycle of once you die you are reborn again.. would that still happened if you are frozen for years?
It would feel like an instant to you probably. I think your soul would be frozen in time trapped in the body, then instantly wake up when its revived. Souls don't have the concept of time. They are eternal, and travel through time freely at their own pace. Whether slow or fast. To our souls it would just be like blinking then opening their eyes. Think of it this way: When people talk about reincarnation after death, when does it happen? Instantly after death, or 100 years later? Even a 1000 years later? Like the reincarnation of Leonidas from the BC Greek Spartan ages. The soul doesn't really care about the concept of time most likely. I'm guessing it chooses what it wants to do on a whim, or when it feels right. The soul isn't really something we can grasp or even explain. When people talk about "Spiritual" things its usually something we cannot grasp with our human minds. We can only "Feel" and "Experience" it. Interesting question though. While my answer has a ton of holes, these are my thoughts. Still, there are plenty of times when people talk about reincarnation. While not proven true at all, there are some people who claim to have been "Reincarnated" like a grandson having memories of his grandfather's life despite never being told about them.
Hope is slim sure, especially looking through a Lense of our current understanding. My thought is if you have the expendable money (which already rules out a lot of people unfortunately) and you are not frozen until you actually are declared dead, you really have nothing to lose. You either just remain dead or you get revived at some point. Only downside is attempting to acclimate to whatever era you are brought into. Also fun tangent, lots of people bring up “what if you are brought back and the world is waring/diseased/collapsing” ie: ‘the world is not a good place to be’. I can’t help but think if it was really that bad, they wouldn’t bring you back
The thing is, if you know you are dying, what do you have to LOSE by trying cryonics? If they are unable to bring you back, well, then you just stay dead, which is what would happen anyway. If they can bring you back, well, you get another chance. Suppose we could measure the likelihood of science learning to reanimate the cryonically frozen. Suppose the likelihood was one tenth of one percent. You're dying. If you don't do it, you have no chance of coming back. If you do cryonic freezing, you have one tenth of one percent chance of coming back. It is a small chance, but, isn't that better than nothing? And, since you're dying, you know what they say about money, you cannot take it with you. Why NOT spend the last of your money on creating this wild one tenth of one percent chance?
what if the technology is so advance it wont work on the outdated cryonic they were preserved in ? ... like trying to run ios14 on iPhone 3gs .... no chance
Cryogenics is the general term for freezing something to preserve it, while cryonics is freezing a dead body or body part part with the intention of bringing it back to life later.
Honestly cryofrezing is scary like when I think about it it makes me cry a bit like on one hand ur practically immortal but on the other hand everyone and everything u once known or loved is dead so it’s a double edged sword
Not to mention that it would pretty much just be like being on a coma for years while you are still alive for the chances of being woken up god knows if it’s just black with a few noises here and there unable to speak
We don't have the technology yet to bring them back from the dead... that's the main point of cryonics. To preserve their body until technology advances to the point where they can be revived.
@@chadmendiola9833magine getting frozen just to be unfrozen in the next 50 years just to die 5 months later to cancer cus cancer makes too much money to cure
Wait what, if dead body is already almost impossible to ressurect then why the hell freezing it and thawing it make it better? I mean, you're dead in the first place and before freezing someone, one have to revive someone back to life just after his death. Rather than damaging more cells when freezing. 🤦🏽♂️
Imagine having the tech to bring people back but not being able to fix that. I'd leave them frozen for a bit longer until I could fix all those diseases too.
wouldt it make more sense to cause an intense metabolic decrease and a coma, so basically put them in hibernation where as we could probably last 200 years if done correctly and its in our scientific grasp as it literally already exists in nature. also coma patient after a while become retarted but hopefully in 50 years time we could prevent this.
I want to do this, it would be cool but I wanna tell ‘em don’t bring me back till we can reverse age, I don’t wanna be frozen early in life, I wanna be frozen after I die so I can live my life normally then be revived and reverse my age a bit
This video misses the point. Getting frozen with current tech makes sense, if you think future medicine will be Crazy advanced, and able to fix the messed up state that current freezing leaves you in.
So... I'm not allowed to be turned into a robot with miniguns that is able to fly and doesn't need to breath with a human brain inside that always regenerates? AWWWW MANNNNN
Because we don't have the luxury of time to wait and see if cryonics will work. Hell we don't even want to be cryopreserved, it's still one of the worst things that can happen to you or a loved one. It's just better than being buried or burned. When your time is up, you've got to make that choice. Everyone, even cryonicists would rather remain living until cryonics can be proven to work (or not).
You are not supposed to cryogenically freeze people alive and thaw out and serve the body as food and clone and let identical twins take credit and steal everything.
First of all, cryogenics is wayy too expensive as of right now. Also, I don't think revival is happening anytime soon as it will take more effort and money to revive you than it took to freeze you. If we found a cheat code then that's another thing. We don't even know if humans are gonna survive that long or not. So, even tho this is the safest way to die, it is the most riskiest as well. Also, what will you do after being revived? You'll just have the knowledge of the very very old tech and won't know a thing about new laws and stuff. It's hard to tell if the revivors will survive in that new world.
How can it work when your spirit leaves your body when you die so if your body comes back to life there’s not gonna be any spirit or soul in there you’re going to be a zombie
the quick answer is yes , the lung answer is yes but you need to wait froz as any one dead in the soil until the loud trumoet bliwn by mighty angel from the earth sky.
Just to be clear, price and procedures reported are not correct... Cost is over $500k/body and it requires to get "frozen" at maximum 70YO and without any illness "like cancer, HIV etc" and in perfect condition... Please provide real informations 💁♀️
I would rather have my body suspended in a cryonic tube with a chance of revival, than being permanently dead when burnt into ashes or having my bones discarded after the grave lease expired. F going traditional.
I love how they want to be revived in the future meanwhile the way humanity is going is left uncertain if the earth will still be standing few decades from now Lmao
Did you know that some species of frog can survive freezing? When the wood frog, found in North America, begins to freeze it releases sugar--from its liver--into its bloodstream. That sugar travels to its tissues where it helps keep cells from dehydrating and shrinking. Cool, right? Sadly, we humans don’t have this adaptation and with cryonics we’d be frozen AFTER we’re already dead (these incredible frogs are still alive!). So, no dice.
Why does the person have to be dead though? As we get better at sequencing and modifying genes we should be able to adapt similar traits to the frogs. Then medically induce a coma and start to slowly freeze a live person
@@parkerflorence5332 My thoughts exactly. Maybe it is forbidden or laws against it? It technically would mean "killing" a person.
What about the freezing of animals CHOOSER to us though? I thought there were some done with rabbits or something that survived for 43 days or something along those lines?
how about putting another preparation for injecting something
along with defreezing process ? assisted adaptation/augmented adaptation or something ?
how about a dog, or cats instead of euthanase it ask for it as donor,
or cat or fish..., elephant, dinosaurus....
hmm maybe its already working already, but the school just want to keep ppl paying for this research...
ill name it chambers of solitude, and we'll get out like prometheus...
do you want to be frozen in time?, if you did not die before you were frozen, research the options. I live here 😙
If this actually worked. Imagine basically going to sleep and instantly (from your perspective) wake up hundreds of years into the future.
Eh. I know people act like it’s instant when they pass out for a few moments or something. But even tho your not conscious I was passed out for 24 hours and dead for 5 minutes after a OD. I wasn’t conscious to experience time, but it didn’t feel instant at all. It just felt like how you feel after you went to sleep and woke up. Not instant. From my personal experience
It was verrrrrrry peaceful tho death doesn’t seem that bad
@@brycew7731 Sure but your brain isn't off when you're unconscious. If everything in your brain is perfectly preserved, it should feel just an instant.
honestly your mind would go into a state of shock..
PeXis that’s a good point. I agree
So I can't get frozen for 1,000 years and get thawed out and have a robot best friend and get married to a mutant cyclops?
bigghoss762 Futurama in a nutshell
@bigghoss762 I mean yeah, but you’ll be a delivery boy
@Walter White We should use it as a way to travel space
@Walter White Actually more than likely you’d be treated like a virus...Imagine all the sickness/disease we could cure over those 1000 years (3021). All those cures and such would make our immune system weaker over time. So if you time traveled 1000 years forward, let’s say with a cold...You could potentially destroy their society
@@johnniemurphy2150 what?
I think preserving the connections between neurons is more important than keeping the cells alive. It's possible that the cells could be repaired after dying in the future.
I think you are very right. I'm very sure the people who have been frozen now aren't going to be alive ever again. Our technology isn't up there *yet*. The neurons need to be sustained pretty much perfectly which isn't the case at all right now. Besides that, if you want to have an actual chance (in the future), you should be frozen alive. However, this isn't legalized yet. At the moment cryogenic freezing is basically a waste of money.
@@JH-ed4mm yeah but still in about 50yrs we should be able to freeze (and unfreeze) brains and bodys.
@@jimhoffman4766 Keep in mind that aging is still a thing. If we could somehow manipulate gen p53 it would be useful.
@@JH-ed4mm
Don't make sense to me
You are just building a clone not reviving about you if cells are damage
But this leads to question what you consider you and what not
Yesss I agree
I am up for it. The less people who are interested at this point the better it is for me and other time travelers.
I feel exactly the same way. Exactly. Time travelers. So awesome!
Count me in
I would rather have my dead body in a cryonic tube with a nearly impossible chance of coming back, then be permanently burnt to dust, or having my bones discarded once my grave lease has expired.
There’s a Netflix documentary about this. An Asian family did this with their little girl who had the world’s deadliest brain tumor. 😔
What's the series name
Name
@@prachetmohare8841 It’s called “Hope Frozen”
@@sammiemodeste4291 “Hope Frozen”
I just watched this documentary.
If anyone is watching this from the future please revive me lol
Lol
No
@@chikin_butt you are truly, that one commenter.
@wylime 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Me too (if i die)
The whole point of cryonics is a bet on technologies of the FUTURE, not the capabilities of the past or present, which is why most of this video isn't relevant. As long as the neurons can be successfully preserved, that's all that's important for now. If advanced molecular nanotechnology comes to pass within the next couple of decades (as predicted), we should have a pathway for either repairing all the damage and reviving the "corpsicle," or copying the brain pattern to reconstruct it in a computer architecture (which could "live" in a virtual world or be downloaded to an advanced robotic form that is perhaps indistinguishable from humans). So what are the odds of this occurring and people being revived? 50%? 10%? 1%? Well, if you DON'T get cryogenically frozen, the odds of being revived are exactly 0%. So if you have the money, what do you have to lose? You can't take it with you....
Thank you! This video was such bullshit! Only thing I think u got wrong is that a copy of someone's brain isn't them. Copying ur mind doesn't save ur life since there's no continuity of consciousness.
@@janek8195
That is a debate that lots of philosophers have had arguments about in both directions.
I personally tend to the other side.
For a start, in deep sleep and especially anaesthesia, the neurons aren't doing much, so continuity is already lost.
@@donaldhobson8873 So you think you die every time you go to sleep?
@@janek8195 No. I think continuity of consciousness is a silly way to define personal identity.
So long as I have the same memories, personality etc I'm still me. Discontinuities from being asleep don't matter.
I would be frozen alive just makes more sense than dying and then being frozen
That's what I thought I would figure that l would live near the facility and then when I'm ready I would go to the facility and let it happen
I am signed up for Cryonics so I have read this stuff .. You CAN NOT legally get frozen before CERTIFIED death, to do so would be as the law is currently murder.
@@steve.k4735 exactly its not legally possible for them to do so
Steve.K47 Really? What was the process of signing up for it?
@@blackandproud83 I'm also signed up.
Am I the only one who reads these comments and thinks about someone reading them and laughing at them 200 years later?
btw if you are from the future feel free to revive me somehow, we can have a fun conversation :D
Not the future person you hoped for but the future person you get, Its 2021 and we cant revive you at the moment.
New update it’s pretty shitty rn I think everyone is sick of living being frozen for sometime wouldn’t be bad
It's been a year lol
I wonder if RUclips will still even be a thing by that time or if it'll evolve or maybe just disappear entirely lol.
Why not just freeze a pig or something?
Say... 6 months? A year?
Then take it out.
Also have 2 tests, one with Cryoprotectants, one without.
Because no one is funding these experiments...
They probably already did, but failed? Haha we don’t know
Well we can’t just revive the pig with our technology right now the first man who was frozen hasn’t been revived
Yea but pig and our human skin really isn’t the same, I’m no expert.
Because, think about how vastly our bodily functions differ from any other organism vic versa. Sure there are similarities we can find here and there, but when discussing Cryogenics is an extremely sensitive process that would require the utmost detailed solutions within and throughout. From what happens when we die on a cellular level, to what happens during the time our cells remain frozen. Our bodies are an incredibly complex powerhouse of chemicals and functions flowing in all kinds of specified directions. Also include other variable like , avg rate humans decompose at, normally and while frozen, the time frozen, specific cause of death, the fact the subject has died already so we’d also have to pretty much bring a mummy to life based on the knowledge of how they died, technically a cure to that illness plus some resuscitation. And an infinite number of other variables.
I feel freezing and unfreezing will do nothing but just preserve a dead body. Maybe a scam, and maybe one day they’ll have to throw all their customers out. Literally
How I see it. It doesn't matter how damaged the body is now when you freeze it. It only matters how advanced technology we have to resurrect these people. I think that most even damaged people can be resurrected in perfect condition given time. It might take 1000 years to get that point, but it doesn't matter. For me if I got money and I was close to death I would choose to freeze myself. It is risks but better than to be dead for sure.
Then you wake up to evil robots who hook you up to a virtual reality world of hell where they torture you for an eternity or until the universe dies
Tell me more of what you believed on freezing peoples and bringing them back to life , if you don"t mind tell me.
Try to revive a pile of bones in the future, damage is irreparable because information is lost and there is no way to recover it
Chance of reanimation with cryonics - tiny
Chance of reanimation without cryonics - zero
@@Never-mind1960
Chance of reanimation with cryonics - fairly small
Chance of reanimation without cryonics - a bit smaller. (I don't want to say with confidence that future tech can't pull this off somehow. The future may have some Very advanced tech.)
Imagine being the one guy that drops the dead body after its frozen so it just shatters, that would be a fun trip to the boss's office
That has happened, it’s sad.
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@@BA-ro6rlno it hasn’t
LOL
If we had the technology to properly store someone indefinitely, we'd have the technology to keep them from dying in the first place
Right make it make sense
Exactly
Look, at liquid nitrogen temperatures, the atoms aren't doing anything. They are pretty messed up, but they aren't getting any more messed up.
It isn't truely indefinite, some things are happening very slowly. But those things take 100's of years.
Imagine how much therapy you'll need to wrap your head around living, dying, & returning...
Interesting story, but I wish I hadn't watched it over breakfast, with our Thanksgiving turkey thawing in the refrigerator....! 🙊
😂
Then don't eat turkey.
Congrats, you had a dead bird in your freezer. At least you acknowledge what it is; a corpse.
🤣
Everybody gangsta till the turkey start cluckin
I read a book once, about an old man who did this to himself and was very rich obviously, and when he woke up his body was on display in a museum with all his memories being shown up on tvs, there were wires coursing through his veins, and he was stuck inside the glass chamber, while people looked at him, unable to move. I felt bad for him if he had social anxiety that must have been a nightmare.
You know, people are wondering about the success of this thing. What I'm wondering is how long will they live after being "reborn".
1000 maybe
@@josefrybar5991 damn ya'll really living in a fairytale dream lol
@@Ikhlashasib10 I thinking along the lines of 1 million years
Well.. I think they wouldn't unfeeze a person unless they had a good life expectancy anyways..
@@luc8254 They wouldn’t be able to know until they do it.
I would pay $400,000 to be reanimated in 200 years. That seems a pretty solid investment.
Because cryonics has more uses than giving hope to the dying, it has implications for space travel, and preservation, its slowly building into an industry all it’s own. It wont be long before before SpaceX or Google buys up some of these smaller companies. We are at the very start of a snowball effect and in the next 30 years we will see cryogenics boom as an industry. I see real hope in the future.
Even if it dosnt work, its not like you’ll miss the money.
exactly. if you don't have any heritage or have enough money to invest in cryonics, i think it won't an extra 400k that your family would be missing. personally, this is the best close scenario right now and i think it's worth taking a shot if you have that desire of coming back...
jonas90 AND! Life insurance can pay for a huge portion of the costs as well. Some of the cryonics companies out there work with your insurance and don’t need much, or, any out of pocket money.
It gives people hope for their greatest fear. It's going to be a money maker.
4:29 This is where she essentially says no, no you can not.
Imagine fooling someone they time traveled with this
If this ever becomes possible it might be possible to meet your great grandparents great grandparents.
Not that much related, but on a side note, i think it's more possible that science in the next 100 years helps our life expectancy increases to double (~160-170 years old) that our actual amount than to restore dead frozen people. Still, i think it's worth taking a shot if you have the money and still scientifically possible (but remote) if you believe.
As a nursing home nurse, I can tell you right now that nobody wants to live that long. We had a patient who was 106 and all she wanted was to die, she was in good health and sound mounded too, many of our patients are over 100 and none of them wants to live longer, for some is actually a torture, many of them pray and beg everyday to just die.
@@HAIRHOLIC_1 oh my God are you serious? Is this literally everyone aged 100+ or just some? Please reply I'm so curious.
@@MeganVictoriaKearns not everyone but most of them, the ones that don’t want to die are just scared of death and they get anxious about it, but the rest they come to terms with it and just wait for it, many are eager to die, they are fed up with life, before working in a nursing home I didn’t know how normal it was for the elderly to say that they want to die, now I’m amazed how many times they say it just in a day very common behavior.
@@HAIRHOLIC_1 Wow. That's so sad but somehow fascinating to me for some reason. I was only close to my grandparents on my Mom's side, and they died at age 63 and 68. So I don't have much experience talking with elderly people or people with their health in a poor enough condition to necessitate living in a nursing home or assisted living.
Anyway, thank you for the reply. As I said, I was very curious about what you had to say on this subject.
Thanks again! 😊💜💜💜
@@Random_userr Does she talk about it like she is just discussing an inevitable event in her life? Given her age, I mean, she knows it's going to happen one day. Or is she talking about it like she's ready to go? Like she's looking forward to passing on?
It would be just my luck for my brain to wake up, and realize I was cryogenically frozen, but be unable to move, or speak, or even let anyone know that I was alive! Can you imagine spending hundreds of years in that state? It is like surgical awareness that sometimes occurs to a patient under anesthesia, who is undergoing surgery. They are aware of what is going on, but paralyzed, and cannot let anyone know.
you would be very lucky to wake up from death 400 years later
That is not a thing that can happen.
What if We build an Space Cemeteries on the Moon to preserve our corpse without Chemicals?
She's a hater! At the end she said you can literally spend your money on anything else. Cryogenics gives people hope! I'm fighting to live, not living to die.
i like you bro
Straight up 💯
I'm already dead inside, can i get frozen to be revived in the future?
I’m terrified of death just nearly had a panic attack thinking about it
Just accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior 😇
Would your skin be all wrinkly and weird after being frozen for so long?
Will you get freezer burn?
Is it more easier to lose a limb while frozen?
I WANT TO BE CRYOGENICALLY FROZEN I WANT TO LIVE FOREVER
i personally dont think its possible to fully freeze a human and bring them back no matter how you do it
They are supposed to take out the blood because when it's unthawed, it can turn into tiny ice shards and tear apart your blood vessels.
This video would have been better if you had discussed the topic with cryonics proponents to get a clear picture of their actual claims and positions. It's generally assumed that some form of molecular repair, or something equivalent, will be needed *before* the cells are thawed, so all the talk about cells surviving thawing or not is irrelevant. Cryonicists don't mainly fear ice crystals because they kill cells, but because ice crystals mechanically displace and scramble tissues in ways which are not fully understood, and there's a risk that the healthy state of the neuron can't be inferred from its damaged state, so even molecular repair would be useless. It may well be that the information is preserved after all, even in straight frozen brains, but vitrified brains look much better under the microscope, with our limited observation technologies, so it seems a safer bet. It's true that cell viability is emphasized as a convenient and useful proxy to measure the general quality of the cryopreservation, but the growing interest among many cronicists in effective but very lethal techniques such as ASC (aldehyde-stabilized cryopreservation) goes to show that for them it's ultimately about preserving information, not cell viability as such.
The way ice crystals damage cells is not accurately portrayed either. For starters, the cooling process in cryonics (at least in the old protocols that invoved significant ice formation) is very slow, to avoid the formation of intracellular ice. Again, not because intracellular ice takes up more space than liquid water, but because it tends to displace, crush (not burst) and otherwise damage organelles, membranes and other vital parts of the cell. Now, extracellular ice tends to remove water from cells, IOW cells are dehydrated to the point they collapse (not burst) and are chemically damaged by the rising ion concentration. This ice can also displace and mechanically damage the extracellular matrix, and dislodge cells from their original spots.
The point of the worm experiment is to show that memories can survive LN2 temperatures. We already knew they survive a flat EEG and near-freezing temperatures in humans, and we already knew that some relatively large animals like frogs survive freezing (but not to LN2 temperatures) and that tiny animals like C elegans survive freezing to LN2 temperatures, but we didn't know whether these remember anything after behing thawed. Now we do.
I don't know what's more scary the thought of dying or living forever
There is a device that can freeze your body but not have your cells damaged . Used to transport transplants
Very good info. This Channel deserves a lot of views and likes. 👌👍
Korean drama melting me softly
I feel like even if you were frozen with Cryogenics, you wouldn't wake up how you would expect it.
For all we know, their opinions on human rights could even be a lot different from now.
They might throw us into a simulation, and make us replay our past lives over and over again to obtain information about the past. (I would hate it, but its still a possibility.)
Or we might already be revived, and are recuperating in some kind of "Past Generator" that helps our brains recall our memories so we don't go into shock when our minds are revived.
You know, I've had some vivid and short dreams of the future since I was young. I would have short visions then they would occur in real life out of nowhere.
As if it was replaying something that had already happened. However, I usually immediately forget about these visions after waking up, and they only come back to me when I experience them in real life. It just clicks like: "Ah, this is that dream I had back then..."
I've actually managed to make a few small changes, but the butterfly effect doesn't really do what we expect it to.
Its like the past and future try to patch things together to conserve energy. The other dreams that I had before still pop up as well.
If you're wondering, there isn't a set sequence in which these dreams happen. Dream 1 could happen after Dream 2, and vice versa.
Still, these dreams happen anyway. Despite the small changes I make. Recently however, its become more difficult to make any changes.
As if I were being monitored and forced to follow the timeline. By the time I remember something, its already happened, or I remember in that moment and end up following the set path anyway.
I've also had moments where in those dreams I realize that its a future vision, and tell myself to try and change it.
Like sitting down at a computer screen, then getting up as if someone was coming. Trying to open the door and catch them to prove the future.
I proceed to then follow the dream exactly without a single change like I realize its that vision dream, and I get up from the computer thinking someone is coming and open the door.
But no one comes. By the time all of this ends, I realize that I just followed some kind of set determined path despite realizing it was going to happen.
Believe me or not about this, but I feel like I may not be the only person in this world this happens to.
There must be something more than what we humans know about reality and how it works.
Perhaps science is just a way of satisfying our doubts and preventing us from finding out the truth.
Or maybe science is something that is built along the way, and appears out of thin air to fill in the holes that get left behind in our reality.
Does anyone else happen to get the same kind of vision dreams by any chance?
Man you need a dream journal
that's called a deja vu, and it's just an impression although it feels real
I remember some thing like this when I was a kid. I would have visions of something literally happening a minute after or somewhere in the future. I was very lucky alot and would know and be confident at certain things. For example if Ihad to choose a number between 1-100 and if you choose the right number you would win a prize. I would just know what the number was (I don't know why). But stuff like this sadly doesn't happen anymore.
Science is following the scientific model, which can not describe the supernatural. You need religion for that.
Edit: lol I didn't even know I already commented 6 months ago.
interesting idea thats known by people but i agree the scale up from cells to a human is not that straight forward
I do believe that someday maybe in the near future humans will be able to live forever or for a long time at least, i think it’s easier for scientists to make a human being keep living than bringing back a frozen corpse
Some time ago i saw a post telling about a young girl with deasease that couldnt be cured nowadays. She wished to be frozen so she would be revived many years later when it would be possible to cure her. Not sure about more details.
Man that's sad af
I feel like by 2050 we'll have some technology or things that can bring our life longevity
Sure. So the frozen corpses only get brought back 100 years after immortality is invented. So what?
(Or actually 5 minutes after, because once superhuman AI starts inventing stuff, science progress happens FAST!)
What about Paulys mate he was found in a block of ice ?
I remember hearing about this years ago. I was like man for you, it would be like you went to sleep and wake up in the future. Nice
"giant robotic spider legs"
i see what you did there
Betteridge's law of headlines.
Weird thing is for them if somehow they found a way to bring them back they died then came right back but in the future
Hold on, Are you seriously saying that the crazy scientist from the outer worlds talkin about rapid cellular explosion was telling the truth?!
Hold on, Are you seriously saying that the crazy scientist from the outer worlds talkin about rapid cellular explosion was telling the truth?!
Hold on, Are you seriously saying that the crazy scientist from the outer worlds talkin about rapid cellular explosion was telling the truth?!
Hold on, Are you seriously saying that the crazy scientist from the outer worlds talkin about rapid cellular explosion was telling the truth?!
At that point I'd assume humanity wouldn't even bother reviving dead people, they'd be out conquering the universe
If you freeze yourself hoping to come back to life in the future.. what about the cycle of once you die you are reborn again.. would that still happened if you are frozen for years?
DJ Frozen what
Reincarnation?
It would feel like an instant to you probably.
I think your soul would be frozen in time trapped in the body, then instantly wake up when its revived.
Souls don't have the concept of time. They are eternal, and travel through time freely at their own pace. Whether slow or fast.
To our souls it would just be like blinking then opening their eyes.
Think of it this way:
When people talk about reincarnation after death, when does it happen?
Instantly after death, or 100 years later? Even a 1000 years later? Like the reincarnation of Leonidas from the BC Greek Spartan ages.
The soul doesn't really care about the concept of time most likely. I'm guessing it chooses what it wants to do on a whim, or when it feels right.
The soul isn't really something we can grasp or even explain. When people talk about "Spiritual" things its usually something we cannot grasp with our human minds.
We can only "Feel" and "Experience" it.
Interesting question though. While my answer has a ton of holes, these are my thoughts.
Still, there are plenty of times when people talk about reincarnation.
While not proven true at all, there are some people who claim to have been "Reincarnated" like a grandson having memories of his grandfather's life despite never being told about them.
The only thing I want to know is, will I have to help a settlement
Imagine waking up in a universe court after being frozen
nice for a movie
Hope is slim sure, especially looking through a Lense of our current understanding.
My thought is if you have the expendable money (which already rules out a lot of people unfortunately) and you are not frozen until you actually are declared dead, you really have nothing to lose. You either just remain dead or you get revived at some point. Only downside is attempting to acclimate to whatever era you are brought into.
Also fun tangent, lots of people bring up “what if you are brought back and the world is waring/diseased/collapsing” ie: ‘the world is not a good place to be’. I can’t help but think if it was really that bad, they wouldn’t bring you back
That's why I plan on enlisting in the US army because when you are discharged or retire you get a shit ton of bread (aka money)
I froze ants and bees before and they came back to life. Lol.
The thing is, if you know you are dying, what do you have to LOSE by trying cryonics? If they are unable to bring you back, well, then you just stay dead, which is what would happen anyway. If they can bring you back, well, you get another chance. Suppose we could measure the likelihood of science learning to reanimate the cryonically frozen. Suppose the likelihood was one tenth of one percent. You're dying. If you don't do it, you have no chance of coming back. If you do cryonic freezing, you have one tenth of one percent chance of coming back. It is a small chance, but, isn't that better than nothing? And, since you're dying, you know what they say about money, you cannot take it with you. Why NOT spend the last of your money on creating this wild one tenth of one percent chance?
Kudos on the "Phil" reference :) - Better off Ted - the best TV series EVER that got cancelled after just 2 seasons :(
We could not agree more.
Well if they die they die but if they are lucky and able to come back to life than it’s worth it
I can imagine waking up and ppl being like "wow it actually worked" or "we're literally living with someone fron the past omlll"
Yeah, it'd be exactly like how today's scientists would react if the tech necessary to reanimate Egyptian mummies suddenly existed.
I would love to be frozen inside the capsule and get the best sleep forever
If this did work, the frozen people will not know of any of this like it would be a second and they're in the future
what if the technology is so advance it wont work on the outdated cryonic they were preserved in ? ... like trying to run ios14 on iPhone 3gs .... no chance
That’s true….
At 0:42, did you guys mix up the definition of cryonics and cryogenics?
Cryogenics is the general term for freezing something to preserve it, while cryonics is freezing a dead body or body part part with the intention of bringing it back to life later.
It's too scary to die, I'll have to be carried inside a cemetery, and buried alive
Her hands are looking mighty red at the bottom of the frame! What is happening there?
Honestly cryofrezing is scary like when I think about it it makes me cry a bit like on one hand ur practically immortal but on the other hand everyone and everything u once known or loved is dead so it’s a double edged sword
Not to mention that it would pretty much just be like being on a coma for years while you are still alive for the chances of being woken up god knows if it’s just black with a few noises here and there unable to speak
Why don't they try to Un Cryo someone who has already been croyo to see if its possible?
We don't have the technology yet to bring them back from the dead... that's the main point of cryonics. To preserve their body until technology advances to the point where they can be revived.
@@chadmendiola9833magine getting frozen just to be unfrozen in the next 50 years just to die 5 months later to cancer cus cancer makes too much money to cure
Either way guys you have only one life love it to the fullest and enjoy it
I wanna live forever
I don’t care about the “immortality” aspect of this. But, this technology would be a game changer for interstellar space travel
Wait what, if dead body is already almost impossible to ressurect then why the hell freezing it and thawing it make it better? I mean, you're dead in the first place and before freezing someone, one have to revive someone back to life just after his death. Rather than damaging more cells when freezing. 🤦🏽♂️
So basically futeruma in a nutshell
Imagine coming back all messed up with no eye sight, no hearing, chronic pain everywhere and cancer or something worse, I’d want to die immediately.
Imagine having the tech to bring people back but not being able to fix that. I'd leave them frozen for a bit longer until I could fix all those diseases too.
If I ever get terminally ill, freeze my head Less than most of my body to protect it
wouldt it make more sense to cause an intense metabolic decrease and a coma, so basically put them in hibernation where as we could probably last 200 years if done correctly and its in our scientific grasp as it literally already exists in nature. also coma patient after a while become retarted but hopefully in 50 years time we could prevent this.
I think that may evoke a legal grey area, since it could be seen as a medically induced suicide.
@@wij8044 euthanasia
@@lynxafrica958 but this isn’t euthanasia
I want to do this, it would be cool but I wanna tell ‘em don’t bring me back till we can reverse age, I don’t wanna be frozen early in life, I wanna be frozen after I die so I can live my life normally then be revived and reverse my age a bit
"...have your ashes loaded into fireworks so you can rain down on people on the 4th of July..."
Wait a minute...that's an option??
is it possible to store a living body theoretically. pls answer
Yes
How to contact the company for freezing?
Well, so much for having myself frozen after death and coming back in a few hundred years. This vid sucked the fun right out of that plan. Lol!
This video misses the point.
Getting frozen with current tech makes sense, if you think future medicine will be Crazy advanced, and able to fix the messed up state that current freezing leaves you in.
So that is how the head museum works
Can I get frozen while alive in 1000 years and go to the future and meet a robot? And a purple haired one eyed mutant?
So... I'm not allowed to be turned into a robot with miniguns that is able to fly and doesn't need to breath with a human brain inside that always regenerates? AWWWW MANNNNN
How can a hypothesis with no further evidence make sense to push foward
Because we don't have the luxury of time to wait and see if cryonics will work. Hell we don't even want to be cryopreserved, it's still one of the worst things that can happen to you or a loved one. It's just better than being buried or burned.
When your time is up, you've got to make that choice. Everyone, even cryonicists would rather remain living until cryonics can be proven to work (or not).
Everybody holds on to the belief of hope and they hold on to your money 😄
How about if someone is given the cryopreservation chemicals while alive as a means of assisted suicide in a place where AS is legal?
Imagine waking up 100 years later and have to catch up 😮
Hopefully we’re almost near a breakthrough of human Torpor
Never.ever only GOD can give life back and he promise that in the bible he will come back again we living in the last period stay ready
Chance of reanimation with cryonics - tiny
Chance of reanimation without cryonics - zero
You are not supposed to cryogenically freeze people alive and thaw out and serve the body as food and clone and let identical twins take credit and steal everything.
First of all, cryogenics is wayy too expensive as of right now. Also, I don't think revival is happening anytime soon as it will take more effort and money to revive you than it took to freeze you. If we found a cheat code then that's another thing. We don't even know if humans are gonna survive that long or not. So, even tho this is the safest way to die, it is the most riskiest as well. Also, what will you do after being revived? You'll just have the knowledge of the very very old tech and won't know a thing about new laws and stuff. It's hard to tell if the revivors will survive in that new world.
I need to be revived one day, even if 90% of my body becomes metal
Lol all you have to do is use the reanimation jutsu
How can it work when your spirit leaves your body when you die so if your body comes back to life there’s not gonna be any spirit or soul in there you’re going to be a zombie
This process is making them unable to go through the whole “death process” this is pretty much acoma
the quick answer is yes , the lung answer is yes but you need to wait froz as any one dead in the soil until the loud trumoet bliwn by mighty angel from the earth sky.
Death. cannot be cheated.
Haha, depressing!
Until we get advanced enough ;)
IzRalsei } you can’t cheat death though once your time is done you time done
You're right it can't be cheated but it can be prolonged 😉
WE ALL WANNA LIVE FOR EVER
Not me. It’s scary
@@Ajwad99 nah living forever sounds sick. Who tf wants to die. By 2050 we'll probably have technology or things that'll make us somewhat immortal
@@ZZ-rc1yw hopefully
Just to be clear, price and procedures reported are not correct...
Cost is over $500k/body and it requires to get "frozen" at maximum 70YO and without any illness "like cancer, HIV etc" and in perfect condition...
Please provide real informations 💁♀️
Well i mean i respect people who do this despite the truth if it's for contributing science
I would rather have my body suspended in a cryonic tube with a chance of revival, than being permanently dead when burnt into ashes or having my bones discarded after the grave lease expired. F going traditional.
I want this to be possible
The answer is we don’t know
I love how they want to be revived in the future meanwhile the way humanity is going is left uncertain if the earth will still be standing few decades from now Lmao
I wanna wake up when we’re at least a 1.7 type civilization
you've also been watching kurzgesagt
I'd settle for 1.3, but you do you!😉💜