The New Seiko SNXS - Are Seiko Watches Still Worth the Money? Featuring the Seiko 5 Sports SRPK89.
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Are Seiko Watches Still Worth the Money? Seiko 5 sports SNXS SRPK87 SRPK89 37mm
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A quartz version would be nice for those of us who require accurate timekeeping.
Seiko did a good job. My only complaints are Seiko's watches are too thick and prices are too high. Hopefully, the price will drop over time.
$395 of course is insane for these specifications but with discount like in my location, it costs around $240, it is still worth to buy. 😆😁😄👍👍
240 is still overpriced for a watch that doesn't have sapphire. Sapphire would only cost around 2-10 dollars for Seiko to use. They're just being stingy.
@@rayndown I think it's closer to $10. An aftermarket crystal is $20-30. Even more if you want anti-reflective coating. Figure 50% for the wholesale price.
@kristofferfast112 and it's not even just that. The bracelets aren't very good either.
@@pghj100 Yup. Glad to see other people sharing the same sentiment as me. I'm tired of seeing people mindlessly praising Seiko and recommending them to beginners.
I'm also tired of hearing people say that a brand, like Seiko, being old and having history behind it, somehow makes it superior to similarly-priced watches made by Traska, Proxima, Baltany or San Martin for example, all of which completely knock Seiko out of the park.
@@rayndownWhat watch brand would you recommend to beginners
I think the critisims of Seikos pricing is the dummest thing ever. You are paying for brand. Just like every other overpriced swiss brand. Second, the RRP is never what they actually go for. This will probably sell for $200 just like the dressks. If Seiko stopped selling the NH to 3rd parties the affordable watch market would be devastated.
Regarding your last statement, no it wouldn't. People would be using Miyota movements instead, and Miyota would be all the happier for it. And just because Swiss brands are overpriced, it doesn't give Seiko the excuse to also sell overpriced watches
I still think Seiko makes a great timepiece for the masses , heck anybody can review a Rolex or Breitling , who can afford them ? Seiko is affordable , looks awesome , keeps good time and is kind to the pocketbook ! Great review !
There are other much better watches you can get for that price. San Martin for example. Seiko is absolute trash nowadays. They used to be cool. Back when they still made the SKX007.
@@rayndown Yep, take a look at Citizen watches. I was shocked on how good they are. 👍 IMHO.
@@rayndowneven then, Orient had much better watches available for less money. It’s just undeniably bad value now.
@@rayndownno one wants shitty Chinese homage crap
@@rayndownsan Martin. Snooze. Their only good watches are fake copies and the originals are ugly as hell. gimme a hardlex any day over that unoriginal trash
Yess man, this model is the most durable model that Seiko has ever produced and it is great. There was no 10 bar water resistance in this type of models until now, but this surprises me. Seiko always manages to surprise me. I will definitely own one. I especially want to buy the cream colored dial.
The Seiko 5 range outperforms Bulova, Timex and Citizen primarily because of the design. Micro-brand pricing is creeping up so I think the criticism of Seiko is a bit unfair.
They’re all starting to look the same to me….all watches 😳
I was quite unmoved till I saw it today, and now I want one. It's expensive but not that much more than that Citizen Tsuono, and a damned sight cheaper than the Tissot plastic escapement PRX
I am still content with my snxs79 - the dial is awesome and it was near the $100 mark when I bought it. I don't like the 395 price tag - nearly 4x the price 😮
I particularly enjoy automatic watches, especially those made by Seiko. I have tried Citizen watches and found them to be good, but I always return to Seiko. While Swiss watches are also excellent, I prefer Seiko because the high-end models do not attract as much attention. Additionally, I appreciate Damasko watches for their ability to go unnoticed. I have enjoyed watching your RUclips videos and appreciate your content. Thank you for sharing.
It is very nice watch but because he has Hardlex crystal I don’t buy this watch. Very expensive for this watch I think
I was sceptical too , but compared to this new version the older models look like cheap toys , this is a real upgrade to the "SNXS" line type of Seiko 5 Sports watches .
I wish the would’ve put the old 5 on the dial, I think I’ll just buy the old version and put an uncle Seiko bracelet on it.
have done it.
would use the og seiko 5 clasp and the endlinks.
for some reason uncles don't fit exactly.
230€ for watch and bracelet.
No sapphire no deal.
Luckily they can be modded with a sapphire.
Worth it! And we all know that the price will come down
Nice review. I wish the 5 line stayed well under $300 and competed more with G-shock pricing cause I would def buy more Seiko 5’s to add up in the mix. Either way I’m still interested in this SNXS recreate. I’m waiting for the price to go down to cop.
How likely will the price of this seiko 5 go down? And around how much will this go down to? Was hoping for the price drop as well.
@@wanderer1125 I bet this snxs will come down a little bit when the street price sets in
Bracelet looks sooo unconnected with the case.
The Islander watches are great values (I have a couple) but, like many microbrands, their better designs are the ones that are essentially homages or slight riffs on well known watches (e.g., Seiko SKX and SARB, the generic flieger design). The more they stray from those and try to come up with original designs, the less successful their designs tend to be (in my opinion). It's so hard to design a good looking, balanced, and harmonious dial and case. Seiko and the establish players have decades (even a centuries) worth of experience in this. I still love Seiko, despite their price increases and occasional minor QC issues. I wish their bracelets were better. I wish they used sapphire crystals more. People pine for the days when Seiko lost control over their distribution channels and grey market JDM models could be had for cheap. They've definitely raised prices and are not as great a value, but you also have to factor in the common 25-35% discounts. And they are still masters of dial design, from the Seiko 5 to the Grand Seikos.
There are definitely microbrands with really good design chops--Baltic and Lorier come to mind. Fact is the big watch manufacturers who distribute their watches via retailers can never compete on price with microbrands that sell direct online. They need to provide their ADs with lots of margin (wholesale price probably around 50% of MSRP/RRP), whereas the microbrands don't have to do that. So, they can set their MSRP's much lower and still make decent profit. And the Chinese Aliexpress companies are likely making very little off of each watch.
@@catlike1 It would cost Seiko 2-10 dollars to implement sapphire glass on their cheaper automatic models. I don't think that margins can be used as an excuse for using mineral glass over sapphire. But I totally get where you're coming from.
I bought the blue version several weeks ago. It’s way better in the flesh. Love it.
In Australia they hit the market for $625. I waited till the price came down and got mine for $440.
In Italia si trova a 320 euro ,appena preso
I started with Seikos srpe03 King Turtle, srpg27 Seiko 5 Field and snk381k1 field watch. The snk381k1 is the most recent. I focus more on Hamilton Khaki Field. The new release opens the possibility of an update snk381k1 with lumed numerals. I might buy if Seiko releases one.
The snk381k1 is the MAC V SOG one? That would be nice.
@chosearmandoarmando3864 Yes, the Snk381k1 is the reissue of the MAC V SOG. It's a great field watch that is still sold today. Jomashop has it for $105 USD.
Seiko is smoking crack with those prices. At $200 it’s a banger of watch but at retail they can shove it where the sun don’t shine. It really sucks what Seiko has turned into. $400 for a folded link bracelet, hardlex, and 2 micro adjustments is strait criminal.
400 bucks is cheap af for a watch. I saw that watch on a mall and it's actually so much of a watch for around that price. Those saying it should be a hundred bucks well obviously it's either you're broke or doesn't really know what's good, (coming from a person that mostly buys three thousand plus watches)
That seiko watch is nice. But it ain't $400 nice. Micro brands and chinese brands like san martin out perform seiko by a large margin. Seiko still makes beautiful watches. But when it comes to doller for quality, it falls too short to compete with micro brands.
I have the black (very inky) and the champagne. I have the JDM models and paid considerably less than retail. ($267)I think they’re pretty great but overpriced at $400.
Incidentally I also just purchased 2 Islander Manhassets and those are pretty awesome too!
I think these are a great design. I'm not sure if it's quite up to the size I prefer, but it's pretty close. I would like to try one on at some point. I think they absolutely nailed the aesthetics. I literally have no complaints. The black and tan with the reddish orange seconds hand is a great combination. I think the blue one looks great as well. I've seen these available at a discount, so you're definitely not paying full price. Can you get some homage Chinese brand for cheaper? Sure, but you're likely not getting much in the way of original design for this style of watch.
Although Seiko has definitely moved up in their pricing in the Prospex line (see 62MAS from 2017 vs. 2020 vs. 2024), but they are also upgrading things in the process. This watch is certainly upgraded from the old models with the movement and sounds like the bracelet and such too. Once you realize that Seiko has done a lot of cleaning up of the gray market (as Marc from Long Island Watches has mentioned), you realize that it's not a dramatic leap in price, accounting for inflation. Those
You want on par craftsmanship, finishing, a sapphire crystal and the heritage? For 300$? Then the answer is the Citizen Tsuyosa! I like this new Seiko 5 but I will wait for the price to go down to the level of the 5KX.
Nope
Seiko need to change things up, but here's my idea, if seiko still want to use their hardlex keep it for their 5 line and sapphire for ALL their prospex and the presage line, i dont mind pressed clasp if they want to keep the price down but big no for hollow end link
Comes in blue and champagne/creamy dial... And the old snxs Do come with days..
Like all new Seiko releases, just wait a few months and the retailers mark down the prices. This watch will be selling for $250 next summer
People complaining about seiko in 5, 4,3,2,1...👇👇👇
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Only if they add sapphire, then hardly a handful people will point fingers
Holy Crap! $395 dollars now? Ooof. You can't deny Seiko's history and innovative and classic designs but because of the insane pricing I discovered Citizen watches which have stepped up their game. I'd dare say that Citizen has at least matched Seiko and still have the bang for the buck that Seiko used to have....... IMHO, Btw I'm not a Seiko Hater I own several of them.
Just Sayin.
@ajbones4207
What Citizen automatic is better value ?
@@pokie6087nessuno
citizen tsuyosa
Love Islander watches! Marc is such a great guy. This watch is pretty cheap in Japan. I think it was around 250 or so
Has the Rolex Milgauss 116400 black feel
A bit meh for the price… 🤷♂️
Would a nato strap suit this type of watch or no ?
For price i hace many alternaties
no never was
Absolutely love this watch!
I actually (usually) prefer Hardlex, but at this msrp, sapphire should be standard.
May I ask why you prefer hardlex
@@dhruvd8953, because it cracks, kind of spiderwebs, when it fails. It doesn’t shatter.
Twice so far it’s been the difference between an inconvenience and a wrecked dial, even movement.
A rare scenario to be sure, but Hardlex has proven its merit, to me at least.
Nope, I tried to replace my skx007j to a srpd , its bad. Now we got chiness brand with nh35 like san martin or other
Hey, San Martin is not so bad. 😂 Their QC is pretty spot on BUT!!!!!!! Their prices as of recently skyrocketed too. They can eat balls too. Lol
Except san martin have 0 history and make copied watches
@@ahsan101 muh history
@@ahsan101 yeah they literally her praised by these morons for making fakes that they mentally justify by forcing themselves to say the word "homage".
For a Seiko-path the prices are definitely a punch in the gut. But, I just cannot get away from those dials and that lume. No one else can do what Seiko does with those two aspects. Sorry. 🤷🏻♂️
Orient Kamasu has better lume than a Seiko SRPD. There's tons of watches with great dials and lume that aren't insanely overpriced.
@@rayndown I'm gonna disagree. But to be fair; I own 4 Seiko, none under 43mm, and 0 Orient.
@@Tom_H327 How can you disagree if you dont own an Orient though? There's videos showing the lume of the Kamasu and the old SKX007 side-by-side and the Orient is slightly better. Last video I saw of the new SKX007, the SRPD, the lume was terrible compared to the old SKX007. But maybe that was a lemon he got.
Orient... The brand owned by... Seiko... 🤣
@@pk1342 Orient is not owned by Seiko. Orient is owned by S. Epson, who also owns Seiko. Orient does not use anything that Seiko makes.
Seiko still has some watches that is worth the money. Just not this series.
On the other hand, Chris i do not see you asking this question towards those so called "Mainstream Luxury Brands" no?
That’s a legit $100 watch!
Tops!
$125
Nope, tried it and it feels pretty good
@@_RJ_Z same price you buy a superrep explorer 1 with ar coating and swiss eta 2824 ☺️
Show me a 100$ watch with a in house caliber designed and manufactured by the same company with this level of finishing solid end links + solid links insanely reliable movement (4r35 is better than probably any other low grade movements by Far) for a 100$ you barely get a Casio edifice and that's what i call a "toy watch" everything is done to the slowest standard , bro don't complain about the best watch brand on this planet and don't forget that many of the other brands you have in mind are copying from Seiko in one way or another!!! "Nobody does a dial like Seiko"!! Especially at that price point! BTW if you feel this watch in the hand it feels super quality and can't even be compared to watches that cost 3 times as much!
These Seikos are gross, designwise/construction id rather get a pagani design than those.
Yes, Seiko makes all the great designs that everyone else copies. The problem today though is the copies are better and cheaper than the original. I guess we still need Seiko around though to keep making all the great original designs. But don't buy it, but the much better copy.
None of the copies are actually better watches. They are cheaper (and therefore better value for money spec for spec) but they are not better watches by any stretch. The finish is usually significantly worse (steel dive 1970 compared to SPB Willard for example) and even the best copies like san Martin 62mas don't compare in this regard to the execution of the SPB 62mas. They also lack on the small details that actually make these watches special such as case ergonomics and dial execution. The AR coating sucks compared to Seiko's super clear AR. This new snxs may still use a hardlex but it looks like an expensive well designed watch (with diamond cut hands and indices none the less) rather than one of these well specced homages that just looks wrong when you put it on the wrist.
Edit: I say this as an owner of an SD1970 and an SPB265 Willard.
@@pk1342 The steeldive is much cheaper than the Seiko, so I don't think that's a good comparison. And just because something looks wrong to you, doesn't mean it looks wrong to other people.
@pk1342 Oh brother, another Seiko fan boy! You are just 100% wrong. Seiko watches don't even come close to the specs, finishing and quality of the high end Chinese watches like San Martin and Cronos. Aluminum bezels, mineral glass crystals, pressed metal clasps, pin and collar bracelets, misaligned chapter rings. Seiko is joke! But by all means buy them to your hearts content. I'll continue to buy the Chinese version that's twice as good for half the price.
@@sinjinadams2862 oh boy another spec sheet warrior that enjoys buying sapphire and ceramic coated turds. Enjoy!
Probably think McDonald's is the best food in the world too based upon your dollar to calorie value index
@@sinjinadams2862 oh brother, another Chinese spec connoisseur that also probably thinks McDonald's is the best food in the world based on their dollar per calorie index.
Seikos will always have a place in my collection. They are all overpriced at MSRP these days, but if you're buying any Seiko at retail, you're doing it wrong.
$150 watch at most. I personally detest the colour of the lume in the hands and the indices.
Seiko know they can push rediculously overpriced pieces out and people will blindly pay for them because of the 'heritage'.
Heritage counts for nothing against 'what have you done for me lately?'.
I would pay $100 max. Doesn't even have sapphire glass. Glad to see people waking up to Seiko's garbage business practices
SJE101 is my next watch
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