And I believe the delta in audio is usually produced by flipping the phase between two sources, leaving only the phase difference. Might be wrong or over-simplifying it.
For those interested in buying soothe 2... I've spent thousands and thousands on plugins, vsts, fx etc. Soothe 2 is the best music production tool I've ever bought.
A comprehensive : ) review of the de-harsh-ifyers I use: Soothe2 (Very Good) Gullfoss (Very Good) BX_refinement (Good) SmoothOperator (Good) Smart EQ2 (Very Good) Update (2024 de-harsh-ifyers I own and use) Soothe2 (Still very Good) Gullfoss (Still very Good) BX_refinement (Can be replicated with a simple EQ) SmoothOperator (OK . . . ) Smart EQ4 (Still very Good - even better than Smart EQ2) RESO from MTM (very subtle, often too hard to hear a difference)
I use Soothe on individual tracks and Gullfoss on the mix bus/master. They’re both amazing tools but for me have very different sounds for different purposes. Smooth operator has a great UI but I haven’t really found a use for it, I find it gets way too extreme too quick and it’s hard to dial in subtly.
@@safe Gullfoss and Soothe for me are two of the very few plugins that I think are worth their high price and can’t be replaced with cheaper or free alternatives like most other plugins. Gullfoss and Soothe not only save me heaps of time mixing (which increases my profits) but also made such an improvement to the quality of my mixes that I could up my rates. They literally paid for themselves.
@@safe The UI of Smooth Operator is basically the opposite of Soothe. Rather than boosting the frequency range you want to attenuate, you drag down the curve into the spectrum analyser to attenuate that range. I think it’s a great UI, but I agree even the slightest cut into the frequency range drastically changes the sound of the signal and always sounds too heavy handed.
One way I like to conceptualize the hunt for those 5% improvements is to frame it as the search for all of the problems that each take 5% away from what the song could be. The difference is just semantic in a sense, but framing the editing/mixing/mastering process as removing problems rather than adding more details helps keep that step in focus for me.
A friend and I are so close to finishing our first EP together and we're in the final stages - this video has truly, TRULY changed everything. I immediately downloaded the trial and the changes Soothe2 made to the tracks is... absolutely mind blowing. Oeksound is a saint and Andrew, you are a saviour. Thank you ♥
I bought Soothe and then Soothe 2 and Spiff. These plugins are some of the only ones I've never regretted for a minute. I use them everyday and they never let me down. Absolute must have plugins!
@@HumanBeingWithFeelings Yes... There may have been one in the last two years that I didn't, but that was a piano instrumental. Otherwise, it always finds a place.
One of the best plugins ever. Highly recommended. And don't forget RX-9, the only plugin suite I know of that can restore a unique modular recording you just screwed up by recording it too loud.
RX9 is godly. I use the music rebalance for a live recording i did that i started to mix and realized the vocal mic picked up the acoustic guitar as loud as the vocals. i could have just used that one mic, but instead decided to use the RX9 rebalance to separate the vocal from the guitar to process and treated it like it's own mic. so i had the acoustic guitar mic, the 'vocal' mic, and the 'room' mic. turned out sounding incredible. also the de-noise plugins and dialog isolate are god tier time savers. esp guitar de-noise. I worked in post production at one point and dropped the cash for the advanced version, best money i ever spent. I suggest to everyone i know (who are musicians, podcasters, twitch streamers, etc) to at least get the elements version. oh and the de-clipper tool is pretty badass as well. saved a lot of headaches for me.
RX 9 mouth declick is this dehydrated mofos best friend! lol. I praise the RX suite whenever I can. It's so transparent, and they're all so effective for plugins that require 1 or 2 tweaks to dial in. It's really freaky how effective RX tools are in certain situations. Mouth declick allows me to e so much less concerned with spoken word mic etiquette. Transparent enough for singing as well.
@@niganools1502 advanced is really only worth it if you are getting post production gigs. Standard for everyone else. Worth its weight in gold. I can’t tell you how many sessions were ruined that have been saved years later because of it. The artist would pass on releasing the song and now reconsider it. All depends on how often you have noisy recordings though, but it is a very valuable tool. I work with a lot of artists who do home recordings where I don’t always have the option to re-record it or do it better. Along with podcasts and other stuff. It’s paid for itself for sure. I’d grab it soon while holiday says are happening. (And check the site plugin discounts for a slightly better deal).
Maybe I'm weird but I prefer that guitar sound with Soothe off; the higher pitch frequencies make it feel so much brighter and prettier, whereas with it off it feels muddy and more harsh IMO. Maybe I have weird preferences tho.
Usually the issue with the high pitched frequencies that poke out isn't at lower volumes... it's when the mix is cranked up that those peaks can feel like ice picks in your ears. That's what Soothe 2 is best at - getting rid of those. Of course, you can go too far and kill the life of the thing.
That's the only reason neither I nor anybody that I know has bought this plug-in. I'd give them my 200 dollars, but I'm not going to throw in my dignity also. Side note: the trade-off for making paying customers jump through hoops to do the work of protecting the company's IP doesn't seem to work, since this is one of the most pirated softwares in music production. 😂
Oooh noo industry standard verification 😮 come on dude any self respecting studio engineer couldn’t give a flying monkeys hoot about iLok it’s just something that is necessary to use if you work in the industry, like labour workers have to wear a hard hat when they don’t want to, just got to do what you got to do, it’s not anti anything. Time to take the tinfoil hat off 😂 if you can come up with a ‘consumer friendly’ alternative feel free to roll that out industry wide
It's not a tin foil hat. It's project's not opening at a lice set or on the road where WiFi is spotty. It's having to buy USB dongles and hubs as workarounds. It's crashing projects when ilok servers are down and it's trying to connect to them. It's jumping through hoops to use something you paid for. And considering people srill use pirated versions of some of these plugins means that ilok is basically selling snake oil to these developers and the recoup for the cost of "protecting" the IP gets pushed onto the consumer. Also, ticketmaster is an industry standard, if that says anything about the value of that tag line. But to each their own I suppose. I'll stick to buying a serial or license from the devs that didn't get suckered. Lol
Been using Soothe2 especally for the sidechain for some time now. It really is amazing how much it helps with getting the right focus in a soundfield. One thing you didn't mention (i think) is the stereo mode down on the left. By clicking on it you can also choose from side/mid and and i've been using that to make sure that the vocal has space in the middle without processing the sides. It really works well to kinda "glue" everything together.
so you sidechain the voice Bus insert to your instrumental bus insert, then drop soothe 2 on the bus instrumental to curve space for the voices is that right? what range of frequencies are you targetin please ? find this video and the range targeted seems to be the whole spectrum for that guy. your advice? ruclips.net/video/2J8h3Sx_65I/видео.html
Side chain function adds latency upon export. It doesnt in the daw though. Very frustrating. Also the cracked version is more stable and doesnt need ilok. I think they should update this plugin a bit to be a bit more like Fuser and update the side chain function
@dom anca it is definitely _not worse,_ but costs more than three times(!) cheaper (€79 vs $263). Also it allows me do way more fine-graining manipulation than Soothe2, which is using Apple-like-one-big-knob paradigm.
Ive seen a lot of people compare Soothe2 to Gullfoss, but its getting clear to me that while they are in the same niche they can do different things. Ive been using both with Soothe2 first in the signal line, having Gullfoss do minor changes to its output (sometimes on individual tracks and sometimes on the master). Anyone having input on how you use the two in combination?
Soothe 2 was a game changer for me (esp on electric guitar), but this freaking video allowed me to understand the plugin way more along with some issues i have sometimes that this can fix too. Soothe 2 is OP and so necessary. Machine learning plugins are speeding up my workflow so much. gulfoss, smart EQ, soothe 2, etc. all incredible time savers.
yeah, I'm using do dees Polish vocals... the sibilants in this language are my nightmare, especially when almost all condenser mics have little bump in that area 🥶
I LOVE the effect Soothe2 gives you with so little effort. I would highly recommend the NOVA TDR EQ which is a free alternative until you are able to afford Soothe and it's upgrade.
I love soothe, but I'm actually listening to it's effect too much on mixes nowadays, I think that the best mixers know when something have a really bad ringing that needs to be dealt with and when that resonance is the actual sound that defines that element in the context of the production/mix.
Yea, i can see it as a problem solver, but to my ear it also quickly is taking away the body of an instrument. I think if you use it everywhere or too much you quickly end up with a mix that is hollow and has unclear/undefinable instruments
Thanks Editing Andrew for explaining why the difference was underwhelming compared to expectations (first example was incredible and set the bar high).
been using soothe 2 forever, it has saved my mixes more times than I can count now. I have a habit of instinctively making music with lots of upper mid buildup, this is a blessing if you tend to let your frequencies run rampant in production stage, just calmly tames everything after the fact, mixes sound better than you could have ever imagined.
Hi Andrew, I've learned a ton from your channel over the years, but a lot of the time lately it does feel like just a high quality ad. I understand that this is your job, but I'd find it easier to trust if you would also discuss cheaper/free alternatives or workarounds using stock plugins that you would apply to the same mixing situation.That would probably make the videos longer, but it would also provide more value to your audience instead of predominantly functioning to encourage sales of a product. I've considered purchasing Soothe before this video, looked at it last week actually, but held off because it seems pretty hyped. Understanding how it works under the hood, and what it takes to apply those effects with other plugins, would enable your viewers to make a more informed decision about what these products are actually worth.
Some plugins are just THAT good and essential. If you are doing this as a career you should own it, and if you are doing this as a hobby you should use a cracked version. This is industry standard right now. Just like there is no vocal without melodyne/autotune on it, there are probably few tracks without soothe.
Earlier this morning I was thinking about Sooth and if I should buy it or not and thought that before I should check some videos and out of the blue Andrew cones up with this video now I not only know what I needed to know but I know I can try it for free which is always a nice thing.
omg andrew for the rescue AGAIN! thank you so much!!! you've saved my life! i'm releasing my old music soon and it's ear bleedingly bad mixes. but they're from 13 years ago and performed live before i knew what DAWs were, stuff i made with standalone VSTs recorded onto virtual dj and mixed like i'm in a 60s studio or something XD now with soothe i can finally make that stuff release worthy and ppl wont have to go to the doctors after listening. thank youuuuuuuu
I've seen this popping in and out of your videos for a while and it seems a bit like a multiband compressor without the compression? Like, muted textures can become clear but even when adding shimmer it doesn't get harsh
@@andrewhuang If we’re being technical it’s more like a dynamic EQ with hundreds of really narrow bells. MB compressors split the frequency response with crossovers and applies compression to each band, whereas dynamic EQ is an EQ band (bell or shelf) that dynamically cuts or boosts as the signal exceeds the threshold. I’m sure their algorithm is more advanced than that, but that’s essentially how it works. The curve you draw in with the ‘EQ’ is the sidechain listen circuit, the sharpness control is how narrow the bands are and the depth control is the threshold. You could probably make a crude recreation with two instances of Pro-Q 3 and a bunch of dynamic bands.
Copied my existing comment: Another problem with multiband is every crossover is always active, meaning you get a constant phase shift at every crossover point. With dynamic EQ and Soothe-type plugins, the crossovers are only active when the compression or expansion is happening, meaning less phase shift overall.
so i've watched this about 1,5 years ago, inbetween got dt 1990s from beyerdynamics. back then i didn't get it at all, but now that i have the headphones fuck me does this plugin make a difference
Yeah, I agree here. Especially if your ears are fatigued after a long session, it's way too easy to overcook. I use it, then go back a few days later, take it off and A-B the results. It usually results in me backing the effect off considerably.
do you use this to edit your videos the s in your sound amazing naturaul youtubers are terrible at this but you are like one of the best when it comes to quality
Would using soothe2 as apart of your stereo out chain towards the end of the mixing process be a viable option? Kinda like using soothe on the track as a whole?
Have my ears gone rancid? It kinda sounds a good deal worse with the plugin until it comes together in the sidechain section. I would probably have a hard time using this, as it sounds better with those harsh tones individually, but the whole track benefits from the chunks you take out. Not sure how I would get past that hurdle. Cool plugin, though.
Soothe2 is an amazing mix or bus fixer, used it for long time,but is usually pretty cpu intensive and has big time latency, what cpu are u using with this amount of soothe2 without even sweeting???😂 thanks for the tips🙏🏻
2 years later newbie here I bought RESO as it was way cheaper and was told it was good have you tried this or other plugins that do a similar thing. Cheers your awesome 👍😊
Great overview! Thanks for the tips. Have been experimenting with the side chain on all sorts of things, and also really love it on kick/bass relation. Word of caution to only use what you’re really needing - otherwise the “life” of the sound may degrade and fall more flat.
Example: 1. I wanna reduce harsh frequencies of my Guitar recording 2. I wanna sidechain soothe to my Vocals to lift the presence of my vocal. Question: Do i have to put soothe2 2 times on the guitar track? Thank you! Great video by the way
a tutorial AND a review in one. dope! too bad this thing is $200. worth it though. need it right meow. go go gadget wallet! nothing happened. payday awaits.
The amazing thing is Au5 actually showed how Soothe 2 can used as a frequency mask by using the sidechain method which can lead to some cool sound design.
Popping in to feed engagemometrics and say: NO soothe! Only harsh abrasions here. Maybe loud, crunchy blast beats. Some donk. Y'alls go ahead and soothe though. I don’t want to tell anyone else how to make art. Cheers and have a lovely day.
HEY ANDREW! thanks for the vid. I have soothe and it's great but I've been wondering if there is anywhere that gives information on what all of the presets do. They have weird names like "take grandma to the coffee shop" is there info out that that goes through and explains each preset and the purpose for the preset?
The guitar example in the beginning was amazing. The deessed vox, less so (prolly yt compression and my cheap phones), but the control in the dips seems like a solid use case!
As soon as you said "you don't have to have that ducking" I added this to my shopping list. Pretty impressive! I have an annoying nasal click when I record my speaking voice, around 4kHz - do you think it would remove that? the problem is that it's a very brief sound, so I guess it would need a super fast attack and release?
Sorry, but the sidechain chapter is absolutely misleading if you're talking about using your voice as a sidechain in Soothe 2 for any instrument (it doesn't matter). Using your voice as a sidechain will only duck the harsh sounds of the chosen instruments and won't address the important frequencies that make the vocal stand out. Soothe 2 is a plugin designed to find and reduce only the harsh frequencies within the selected instrument or vocal. When used with vocals as a sidechain, it essentially does the same thing, reacting only when your voice is played, but still neglects the reduction of important frequencies that enhance the vocal's presence. If you want to reduce the important frequencies using sidechain, you can achieve this with any regular equalizer that has the sidechain option available.
I actually think every example sounded better without soothe, especially the sidechaining one. It just kind of takes the excitement away. I own the plugin and I pretty much always end up taking it off when I try it. Been hoping someone could show me an example where it really helps.
I absolutely love soothe and currently use a pretty much on all of my projects. I really love the sidechain function to make some space for one instrument without carving out too much on the other instruments
"delta" in math means "difference". So the plugin is playing the difference between the input and the output, ie the bit that it is removing.
And I believe the delta in audio is usually produced by flipping the phase between two sources, leaving only the phase difference. Might be wrong or over-simplifying it.
@@bananermat3798 Nope, that is most definitely exactly what the switch does!
Reaper DAW has this built in for every plug-in now :)
@@NickScottProducer what?! same precision?
@@crookdfinga yeah !
It's incredible. I find it's also great when taming huge reverb sends. It can keep them massive but without sounding too messy.
Nice tip!
MixedbyAli does this
Where do you place it in the send chain
Where to Place it ? Bus or direct in Chanel?
I second kennedys question. When doing this, do you place it before or after the reverb in the aux track?
For those interested in buying soothe 2... I've spent thousands and thousands on plugins, vsts, fx etc. Soothe 2 is the best music production tool I've ever bought.
So how would it compare to something like the god particle?
Would you still consider fab pro 3 too
Just crack it fellas works the same
Yeah, it's 180 at mo, fuck that. Cracked works fine
A comprehensive : ) review of the de-harsh-ifyers I use:
Soothe2 (Very Good)
Gullfoss (Very Good)
BX_refinement (Good)
SmoothOperator (Good)
Smart EQ2 (Very Good)
Update (2024 de-harsh-ifyers I own and use)
Soothe2 (Still very Good)
Gullfoss (Still very Good)
BX_refinement (Can be replicated with a simple EQ)
SmoothOperator (OK . . . )
Smart EQ4 (Still very Good - even better than Smart EQ2)
RESO from MTM (very subtle, often too hard to hear a difference)
I use Soothe on individual tracks and Gullfoss on the mix bus/master. They’re both amazing tools but for me have very different sounds for different purposes.
Smooth operator has a great UI but I haven’t really found a use for it, I find it gets way too extreme too quick and it’s hard to dial in subtly.
Smooth operator is good because it's tye cheapest option I think
@@safe Gullfoss and Soothe for me are two of the very few plugins that I think are worth their high price and can’t be replaced with cheaper or free alternatives like most other plugins.
Gullfoss and Soothe not only save me heaps of time mixing (which increases my profits) but also made such an improvement to the quality of my mixes that I could up my rates. They literally paid for themselves.
@@safe The UI of Smooth Operator is basically the opposite of Soothe. Rather than boosting the frequency range you want to attenuate, you drag down the curve into the spectrum analyser to attenuate that range.
I think it’s a great UI, but I agree even the slightest cut into the frequency range drastically changes the sound of the signal and always sounds too heavy handed.
Check out Vastaus by Wavegrove (free).
One way I like to conceptualize the hunt for those 5% improvements is to frame it as the search for all of the problems that each take 5% away from what the song could be. The difference is just semantic in a sense, but framing the editing/mixing/mastering process as removing problems rather than adding more details helps keep that step in focus for me.
A friend and I are so close to finishing our first EP together and we're in the final stages - this video has truly, TRULY changed everything. I immediately downloaded the trial and the changes Soothe2 made to the tracks is... absolutely mind blowing. Oeksound is a saint and Andrew, you are a saviour. Thank you ♥
Oh what I love hearing that! Yeah Soothe really helps with the mix process, especially the parts that are usually not fun. :) Good luck with the EP!
Yo where is the EP bro
I bought Soothe and then Soothe 2 and Spiff. These plugins are some of the only ones I've never regretted for a minute. I use them everyday and they never let me down. Absolute must have plugins!
do you use spiff on every mix?
@@HumanBeingWithFeelings Yes... There may have been one in the last two years that I didn't, but that was a piano instrumental. Otherwise, it always finds a place.
One of the best plugins ever. Highly recommended. And don't forget RX-9, the only plugin suite I know of that can restore a unique modular recording you just screwed up by recording it too loud.
RX9 is godly. I use the music rebalance for a live recording i did that i started to mix and realized the vocal mic picked up the acoustic guitar as loud as the vocals. i could have just used that one mic, but instead decided to use the RX9 rebalance to separate the vocal from the guitar to process and treated it like it's own mic. so i had the acoustic guitar mic, the 'vocal' mic, and the 'room' mic. turned out sounding incredible. also the de-noise plugins and dialog isolate are god tier time savers. esp guitar de-noise. I worked in post production at one point and dropped the cash for the advanced version, best money i ever spent. I suggest to everyone i know (who are musicians, podcasters, twitch streamers, etc) to at least get the elements version.
oh and the de-clipper tool is pretty badass as well. saved a lot of headaches for me.
RX 9 mouth declick is this dehydrated mofos best friend! lol. I praise the RX suite whenever I can. It's so transparent, and they're all so effective for plugins that require 1 or 2 tweaks to dial in. It's really freaky how effective RX tools are in certain situations. Mouth declick allows me to e so much less concerned with spoken word mic etiquette. Transparent enough for singing as well.
@@CreativeMindsAudio It’s so expensive tho 🥲, is it worth it frfr??
@@niganools1502 advanced is really only worth it if you are getting post production gigs. Standard for everyone else. Worth its weight in gold. I can’t tell you how many sessions were ruined that have been saved years later because of it. The artist would pass on releasing the song and now reconsider it. All depends on how often you have noisy recordings though, but it is a very valuable tool. I work with a lot of artists who do home recordings where I don’t always have the option to re-record it or do it better. Along with podcasts and other stuff. It’s paid for itself for sure. I’d grab it soon while holiday says are happening. (And check the site plugin discounts for a slightly better deal).
What do you use in RX9 that’s different to RX8 that you used to repair overly loud modular recordings
Maybe I'm weird but I prefer that guitar sound with Soothe off; the higher pitch frequencies make it feel so much brighter and prettier, whereas with it off it feels muddy and more harsh IMO. Maybe I have weird preferences tho.
Yes, especially in a mix cutting out the “harshness” may lead to it losing clarity. I think it was used too extremely in that example.
same at 8:20 he smears the "f"s - if you up the quality settinh this helps with phasey comb filtering
Usually the issue with the high pitched frequencies that poke out isn't at lower volumes... it's when the mix is cranked up that those peaks can feel like ice picks in your ears. That's what Soothe 2 is best at - getting rid of those. Of course, you can go too far and kill the life of the thing.
You're not weird. You're right. THEY are the weird ones - who wants such weak electric guitar? He ruined it.
If only it wouldn‘t force this anti-consumer DRM that is iLok on you…
That's the only reason neither I nor anybody that I know has bought this plug-in. I'd give them my 200 dollars, but I'm not going to throw in my dignity also.
Side note: the trade-off for making paying customers jump through hoops to do the work of protecting the company's IP doesn't seem to work, since this is one of the most pirated softwares in music production. 😂
Oooh noo industry standard verification 😮 come on dude any self respecting studio engineer couldn’t give a flying monkeys hoot about iLok it’s just something that is necessary to use if you work in the industry, like labour workers have to wear a hard hat when they don’t want to, just got to do what you got to do, it’s not anti anything. Time to take the tinfoil hat off 😂 if you can come up with a ‘consumer friendly’ alternative feel free to roll that out industry wide
It's not a tin foil hat. It's project's not opening at a lice set or on the road where WiFi is spotty. It's having to buy USB dongles and hubs as workarounds. It's crashing projects when ilok servers are down and it's trying to connect to them. It's jumping through hoops to use something you paid for.
And considering people srill use pirated versions of some of these plugins means that ilok is basically selling snake oil to these developers and the recoup for the cost of "protecting" the IP gets pushed onto the consumer.
Also, ticketmaster is an industry standard, if that says anything about the value of that tag line.
But to each their own I suppose. I'll stick to buying a serial or license from the devs that didn't get suckered. Lol
Been using Soothe2 especally for the sidechain for some time now. It really is amazing how much it helps with getting the right focus in a soundfield. One thing you didn't mention (i think) is the stereo mode down on the left. By clicking on it you can also choose from side/mid and and i've been using that to make sure that the vocal has space in the middle without processing the sides. It really works well to kinda "glue" everything together.
so you sidechain the voice Bus insert to your instrumental bus insert, then drop soothe 2 on the bus instrumental to curve space for the voices is that right? what range of frequencies are you targetin please ? find this video and the range targeted seems to be the whole spectrum for that guy. your advice? ruclips.net/video/2J8h3Sx_65I/видео.html
Side chain function adds latency upon export. It doesnt in the daw though. Very frustrating. Also the cracked version is more stable and doesnt need ilok. I think they should update this plugin a bit to be a bit more like Fuser and update the side chain function
this must be insane on crash cymbals!!
shut up stefevr
I ABSOLUTELY LOST IT AT 4:17 HI EDITING, I'M DAD. brilliant. 5/5 comedies
Why does nobody mention DSEQ from TBProAudio?
soothe2 is pretty solid, but DSEQ which does nearly the same job is so much better on many materials.
@dom anca it is definitely _not worse,_ but costs more than three times(!) cheaper (€79 vs $263). Also it allows me do way more fine-graining manipulation than Soothe2, which is using Apple-like-one-big-knob paradigm.
i knew this plugins rocks andrew. the only problem is the price
for that amount of money you could pay for some courses on ear training...
@@noahporter4487 Soothe will save you lots of time, no matter how great your ears are.
Source: has good ears.
I finally bought this, and I'm glad I did
hey there buddy, love your videos!
Ive seen a lot of people compare Soothe2 to Gullfoss, but its getting clear to me that while they are in the same niche they can do different things. Ive been using both with Soothe2 first in the signal line, having Gullfoss do minor changes to its output (sometimes on individual tracks and sometimes on the master). Anyone having input on how you use the two in combination?
first!!!!
Is there any analog equipment in existence that functions just like smoothe2?
Soothe 2 was a game changer for me (esp on electric guitar), but this freaking video allowed me to understand the plugin way more along with some issues i have sometimes that this can fix too. Soothe 2 is OP and so necessary. Machine learning plugins are speeding up my workflow so much. gulfoss, smart EQ, soothe 2, etc. all incredible time savers.
yeah, I'm using do dees Polish vocals... the sibilants in this language are my nightmare, especially when almost all condenser mics have little bump in that area 🥶
I LOVE the effect Soothe2 gives you with so little effort. I would highly recommend the NOVA TDR EQ which is a free alternative until you are able to afford Soothe and it's upgrade.
Does nova remove harshness automatically or do you have to manually set all the frequencies?
@@fabbemark5686 it’s got an auto de-resonate feature that’s a great starting point. I prefer TDR spot treatment to soothe these days
@@banyanmusicofficial8899 Nice!!!
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I love soothe, but I'm actually listening to it's effect too much on mixes nowadays, I think that the best mixers know when something have a really bad ringing that needs to be dealt with and when that resonance is the actual sound that defines that element in the context of the production/mix.
Yea, i can see it as a problem solver, but to my ear it also quickly is taking away the body of an instrument. I think if you use it everywhere or too much you quickly end up with a mix that is hollow and has unclear/undefinable instruments
I sometimes think its kinda sad that these plugins are getting so good at fixing bad recordings.
Thanks Editing Andrew for explaining why the difference was underwhelming compared to expectations (first example was incredible and set the bar high).
been using soothe 2 forever, it has saved my mixes more times than I can count now. I have a habit of instinctively making music with lots of upper mid buildup, this is a blessing if you tend to let your frequencies run rampant in production stage, just calmly tames everything after the fact, mixes sound better than you could have ever imagined.
I'm a dj and voice over artist who edit and master on Audacity. Is Soothe 2 applicable in my case?
@@jackedkerouac4414 Can only help, won’t hurt unless you go insane with the settings
Hi Andrew,
I've learned a ton from your channel over the years, but a lot of the time lately it does feel like just a high quality ad. I understand that this is your job, but I'd find it easier to trust if you would also discuss cheaper/free alternatives or workarounds using stock plugins that you would apply to the same mixing situation.That would probably make the videos longer, but it would also provide more value to your audience instead of predominantly functioning to encourage sales of a product. I've considered purchasing Soothe before this video, looked at it last week actually, but held off because it seems pretty hyped. Understanding how it works under the hood, and what it takes to apply those effects with other plugins, would enable your viewers to make a more informed decision about what these products are actually worth.
Some plugins are just THAT good and essential. If you are doing this as a career you should own it, and if you are doing this as a hobby you should use a cracked version. This is industry standard right now. Just like there is no vocal without melodyne/autotune on it, there are probably few tracks without soothe.
(this will kill your cpu)
Earlier this morning I was thinking about Sooth and if I should buy it or not and thought that before I should check some videos and out of the blue Andrew cones up with this video now I not only know what I needed to know but I know I can try it for free which is always a nice thing.
omg andrew for the rescue AGAIN! thank you so much!!! you've saved my life! i'm releasing my old music soon and it's ear bleedingly bad mixes. but they're from 13 years ago and performed live before i knew what DAWs were, stuff i made with standalone VSTs recorded onto virtual dj and mixed like i'm in a 60s studio or something XD now with soothe i can finally make that stuff release worthy and ppl wont have to go to the doctors after listening. thank youuuuuuuu
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I've seen this popping in and out of your videos for a while and it seems a bit like a multiband compressor without the compression? Like, muted textures can become clear but even when adding shimmer it doesn't get harsh
It pretty much is a multiband compressor but with thousands of bands and really good automatic detection
@@andrewhuang If we’re being technical it’s more like a dynamic EQ with hundreds of really narrow bells. MB compressors split the frequency response with crossovers and applies compression to each band, whereas dynamic EQ is an EQ band (bell or shelf) that dynamically cuts or boosts as the signal exceeds the threshold.
I’m sure their algorithm is more advanced than that, but that’s essentially how it works. The curve you draw in with the ‘EQ’ is the sidechain listen circuit, the sharpness control is how narrow the bands are and the depth control is the threshold.
You could probably make a crude recreation with two instances of Pro-Q 3 and a bunch of dynamic bands.
@@kebbinator so basically it's just a precise EQ
Copied my existing comment: Another problem with multiband is every crossover is always active, meaning you get a constant phase shift at every crossover point. With dynamic EQ and Soothe-type plugins, the crossovers are only active when the compression or expansion is happening, meaning less phase shift overall.
so i've watched this about 1,5 years ago, inbetween got dt 1990s from beyerdynamics. back then i didn't get it at all, but now that i have the headphones fuck me does this plugin make a difference
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It’s really a great tool but quite easy to overdo and alter the sound too much and potentially take too much life out of it . Use in moderation.
Yeah, I agree here. Especially if your ears are fatigued after a long session, it's way too easy to overcook.
I use it, then go back a few days later, take it off and A-B the results. It usually results in me backing the effect off considerably.
@@billB101 Agreed, in fresh ears we trust. 🙂
do you use this to edit your videos the s in your sound amazing naturaul youtubers are terrible at this but you are like one of the best when it comes to quality
Would using soothe2 as apart of your stereo out chain towards the end of the mixing process be a viable option? Kinda like using soothe on the track as a whole?
Works well for mastering/mix chain stuff, just got to mess with it a bit to get it to the right spot.
Have my ears gone rancid? It kinda sounds a good deal worse with the plugin until it comes together in the sidechain section. I would probably have a hard time using this, as it sounds better with those harsh tones individually, but the whole track benefits from the chunks you take out. Not sure how I would get past that hurdle. Cool plugin, though.
Wow, thanks! The first and last examples especially were amazing!
Can you do this with pro q 3?
Soothe2 is an amazing mix or bus fixer, used it for long time,but is usually pretty cpu intensive and has big time latency, what cpu are u using with this amount of soothe2 without even sweeting???😂 thanks for the tips🙏🏻
Holding Alt as a key command to isolate is a great tip!
This is an excellent all around tutorial on Soothe. Nice job
2 years later newbie here I bought RESO as it was way cheaper and was told it was good have you tried this or other plugins that do a similar thing. Cheers your awesome 👍😊
10/10 a plugin worth doing paid promotion for
That song you play here is FIRE.
When you use sidechain on soothe, is it basically the same as using trackspacer?
Yes, but Soothe can be much more precise as it has several individual bands, and various features to change resonance suppression.
Great overview! Thanks for the tips. Have been experimenting with the side chain on all sorts of things, and also really love it on kick/bass relation. Word of caution to only use what you’re really needing - otherwise the “life” of the sound may degrade and fall more flat.
Instead of soother you could try a multiband compressor, as I reckon a wider band probably would help to make things punchier.
Can you make a video demonstrating how you setup the sidechain to work?
this or gulfoss?
Been watching ur vids for almost a decade and I have the make music everywhere hoodie. Keep doing your thing ❤️
Example:
1. I wanna reduce harsh frequencies of my Guitar recording
2. I wanna sidechain soothe to my Vocals to lift the presence of my vocal.
Question:
Do i have to put soothe2
2 times on the guitar track?
Thank you!
Great video by the way
a tutorial AND a review in one. dope! too bad this thing is $200. worth it though. need it right meow. go go gadget wallet!
nothing happened. payday awaits.
So it's kinda like Soundgoodizer with some more control?
Seems like a great plugin. Too bad it also seems that iLok is a requirement.
The amazing thing is Au5 actually showed how Soothe 2 can used as a frequency mask by using the sidechain method which can lead to some cool sound design.
This does look handy as a shortcut instead of spending time hunting down bands in dynamic EQ.
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sounds great but... CLIP DEACTIVATED?!? DUN DUN DUN.
Popping in to feed engagemometrics and say:
NO soothe! Only harsh abrasions here. Maybe loud, crunchy blast beats. Some donk.
Y'alls go ahead and soothe though. I don’t want to tell anyone else how to make art.
Cheers and have a lovely day.
Guy from Disclosure calls it the best plugin ever.
HEY ANDREW! thanks for the vid. I have soothe and it's great but I've been wondering if there is anywhere that gives information on what all of the presets do. They have weird names like "take grandma to the coffee shop" is there info out that that goes through and explains each preset and the purpose for the preset?
Soothe is the GOAT
YES! I love soothe. ever since I found it I put it almost everywhere especially vocals. It's amazing for vocals.
Gamechanger! use it all the time to knock those harsh frequencies you don't want!!! you know I'm sayin ;-)
This would be so cool- if it didn’t cost more than my DAW.
So that's why so many new artists s's sounds like coarse sandpaper 🤔 @5:23 The new comic sans of voice processing.
Idk, I have fab filter 🤷🏼♂️, I’m not super impressed tbh
The guitar example in the beginning was amazing. The deessed vox, less so (prolly yt compression and my cheap phones), but the control in the dips seems like a solid use case!
I thought the de-essing example was actually worse with the plugin than without.
Soothe2 or Gulffoss? Really.
(Oeksound vs SoundTheory)
sitting those vocals in the mix was basically day and night, damn. Great video of a super plugin!
Does Soothe have an auto clean up function or do we need to always manually figure it out & set the frequencies?
The smooth operator Reverb Trick... I can't seem to get Soothe 2 to do it. Can you show how to do it?
Holy pineapple. You look dope with a mustache Andrew.
As soon as you said "you don't have to have that ducking" I added this to my shopping list. Pretty impressive! I have an annoying nasal click when I record my speaking voice, around 4kHz - do you think it would remove that? the problem is that it's a very brief sound, so I guess it would need a super fast attack and release?
Could always try a Dynamic EQ or a Multiband Compressor as well
.all these years following you and even tried few times some of the things.. but ain't for me. xd singing is my forte.
Sorry, but the sidechain chapter is absolutely misleading if you're talking about using your voice as a sidechain in Soothe 2 for any instrument (it doesn't matter). Using your voice as a sidechain will only duck the harsh sounds of the chosen instruments and won't address the important frequencies that make the vocal stand out. Soothe 2 is a plugin designed to find and reduce only the harsh frequencies within the selected instrument or vocal. When used with vocals as a sidechain, it essentially does the same thing, reacting only when your voice is played, but still neglects the reduction of important frequencies that enhance the vocal's presence.
If you want to reduce the important frequencies using sidechain, you can achieve this with any regular equalizer that has the sidechain option available.
So i would have to use soothe 2times ? One for the harsh frequencies of a guitar in general and one to relate to the vocals?
Thank you!
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I got this plugin for a while now but im not really sure what it does and how use it, this video really help me here thank andrew
Thank you so much, I have it and did not know how to use it this way. :)
DMG audio have been doing this for years i beive the guys names dave gamble.
Wouldn't it be cool if all samples came properly perfectly fixed
Thank you for this! Super cool video! A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Side chaining by frequency 🤯
If I have Nuetron what would I use 1st Soothe 2 or Nuetron??
I actually think every example sounded better without soothe, especially the sidechaining one. It just kind of takes the excitement away. I own the plugin and I pretty much always end up taking it off when I try it. Been hoping someone could show me an example where it really helps.
Ne 1 else get a system error n not able t install proper after downloading ??? On mac!
Personally i would use this very very sparingly
Kinda like a multibass comp
5:45 "guiding it's precision". Great way to put it.
been using this since v1/. A game changer.
Whats that thing in the background with the fan grill and analog tape?
How does this compare to Izotope RX for clean up?
Yeah that whistle sounds Ching ching😂😂
I absolutely love soothe and currently use a pretty much on all of my projects. I really love the sidechain function to make some space for one instrument without carving out too much on the other instruments
I actually want this plugin it’s just a little pricey😂
But why is it so expensive?
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