I’m new owner of a 182p model after owning the 182n model. At 6’4” and 225lbs the roominess and power are just great for me and my missions!!! The 182 model is truly the best in my books!! Tremendous episode as I just got the replacement p model last week!!
The 182 is the airplane that I firmly want to own one day. Like many day, it is a jack of all trades airplane. It flies reasonably fast, has a great useful load, fairly easy to work on, which helps me since I’ll be getting my A&P license soon. They’re not terribly expensive to maintain, or insure. I use to say I want to own an RG model, but after looking at statistics, because of gear up landing, insurance for complex airplanes is significantly higher. I’ve looked at other airplanes like a Piper Cherokee 235, a Cherokee 6, Cessna Cardinal. My problem with those models, are they have airworthiness directives that relate to the wing spar lower caps. And I don’t want to deal with that problem. Eventually I want to fly for the airlines, either FedEx or Atlas, and after flying with either of those companies for a while, I’ll be looking into a 182, because it is the perfect airplane for me. It won’t be the first airplane I ever own though, for that I’m looking to own a Luscombe 8A.
I have a 182 C 1960 model and wouldn’t trade it for a brand new anything. Love the Johnson bar flaps, one less automated system to fail. Climbs like a rocket winter or summer and at 21” and 2350 RPM I’m averaging 11 gallons per hour around 120 knots indicated. A great aircraft
Hello from Minnesota! I went from a RV6 to a 182J and couldn't be happier. The RV6 was a blast to fly but just didn't haul enough to fit our cross country mission. Great episode!
My dad (Multi-engine CFII, A&P, AI, etc.) said the only way to keep a 182 on the ground is to fill it with concrete. I'm lucky enough to have inherited his 1969 Skylane and will fly it until I can't.
very balanced plane, can fly fast, comfortable and not expensive. I know this plane flew in Siberia at extremely low temperatures, withstood everything.
Dan I just saw your video on the Nine of Nines b-17, you did an outstanding tribute to it, thank you I have seen that airplane years ago and it saddens me for both the loss of it and especially those who lost their lives, BTW I love to watch Christie she is an asset to this great channel.
Excellent episode Dan and Christy thank you. John's knowledge of Cessna's is amazing. He is definitely a wealth of knowledge. Thank you Matt for sharing your experience with us also. Y'all keep up the great work. Safe sky's. 🤘🇺🇸🛩️
I haven’t even seen this video just yet (waiting to get a little time to sit down and enjoy this great content) and I’m going to give it a like! Keep it up guys! Your production quality is top notch!!
@@JustAnumbr I find no reference anywhere that the per 62 182s didn't have this problem or had a different trim system. Besides, it's not the trim. The 182 is nose heavy and lacks elevator authority at landing speeds. Especially with full fuel and two good sized folks in the front with no baggage and empty back seats. In teh flare you'll have the yoke almost all the way back. At the flare, trim plays almost no roll.
Skywagons University has great videos on 180/182 and model year differences. The early trim system moves the entire stabilator rather than just a tab. It changes the pitch characteristics.
@@JustAnumbr I remember that now, and I watch all of Mark's videos. I don't remember him saying anything about the trim system differences and the nose heavy aspect of the 182. I'll go back and watch it again but if that is the case Cessna made a dumb engineering, aerodynamic and design move.
@@JustAnumbr I just watched both of the videos and Mark said nothing about the nose heavy issue while landing and in the flare. In the first video, he mentioned trimming out the nose heaviness in cruse, which you can do in any 182 from any year.
I have owned my C-182B for the better part of 13 years and flown it all over the country. It is an amazing airplane, I did like this video however, when statements are made about "loading it to the roof" or if it "fits it flies" I think is a bit dangerous. These guys must be flying back east at low density altitude airports. The weakest part of my 182 is its relatively limited usefull load. Respect the usefull load and understand density altitude and yes - I cocnur one of the best airplanes ever built!
I have a 1962 182E with Monarch aux fuel tanks with the transfer pumps. 95 gallons is a lot of fuel. I have more fuel capacity than bladder capacity. It is a good airplane, wish I had time to fly it more. My wife wanted two doors and some room. She is comfortable flying with me. She likes to fly 2 to 230 legs then stretch a bit. 60 gallon tanks would be fine for us. Now I need a new panel with GPS, audio, engine monitor, autopilot and glass.
The 172 is absolutely a 4 person airplane. Just not a 4 fat person airplane. It was designed in the 1950s when the average person weighed 170 lbs and if you plug in the numbers with full fuel you are just under gross with 4 average people (density altitude allowing, of course). I just had 4 people (3 adults and one teen) in my 145hp G with temps in the 80s and it performed as advertised. You just need to be on point about computing weight and balance and factoring in density altitude. If you haul fatbodies, don't understand weight and balance or density altitude, then yes the safe thing for you to do is consider it a 2 place.
@@eugeneweaver3199 There are several others, like the 150 that really gets picked on by people that do not understand them. It amuses TF out of me to listen to a fatbody tell me how "underpowered" a 150 is because it won't fly with him and his titanic instructor. Yea, it's the airplane's fault....go have another doughnut.
100% - I fly a 172S regularly with 4 people. Everyone's fit or relatively fit, but recently took around 15 work peeps for a flight over the course of an afternoon with weights way above what I'm used to. Little planning for group order versus fuel burn over the day. With 180hp, it just feels super comfortable in the 172 for bopping around northern california with friends - Diamond and Cirrus just feel so different for single day touring with a group.
i have a 1972 182 i wqwont sell for love or money it is how i want it.i do have a glass panel and all the upgrades over the years. i was offered which shocked me for a 1972 225000 hell my 76 210 is not worth that much and it is a p model, i had it flown to italy last year since i am moving there the 182 has had a new wiring harnessss put in, last year not sure if i am gonna have it flown there or shipped in a container,
“Oh, so if you see a 2-bladed 182, it was pre-restart” - Dan. Lol, what?? How in the world does Dan take that away from what he’s hearing?? No, that’s how they LEFT the factory. Nevermind the option to change from a 2-blade to a 3-blade, which any CFI should know, especially a 210 owner.
The motor is so underpowered, is there an STC that would allow us to increase the RPM up to $2,600 in the fuel pressure up a little bit so that we'd get the full 260 horsepower? And of course the same tactic only 235 horsepower turbo motor would give us 265 horsepower. Can we legally do this? If we bought a new plane would they legally do this right from Cessna? What engine does the guy on the right have in his plane right now, he said he has the same motor as Lola does
The 182 is definitely not underpowered, although the earlier models with the Continental IO470 engine, had an STC for upgrading to the IO 520 Continental. The restart models have the Lycoming IO 540, but I don’t know what upgrades or STC are available for this model.
ITS UNFORTUNATE that Cessna has NOT updated their wing design to make this airplane FASTER after more than 40 years. With ALL that horsepower and constant speed prop it should top More than 200 Knots at 8,000 Ft ! for the today's prices at over $750,000!
I’m new owner of a 182p model after owning the 182n model. At 6’4” and 225lbs the roominess and power are just great for me and my missions!!! The 182 model is truly the best in my books!! Tremendous episode as I just got the replacement p model last week!!
The 182 is the airplane that I firmly want to own one day. Like many day, it is a jack of all trades airplane. It flies reasonably fast, has a great useful load, fairly easy to work on, which helps me since I’ll be getting my A&P license soon. They’re not terribly expensive to maintain, or insure. I use to say I want to own an RG model, but after looking at statistics, because of gear up landing, insurance for complex airplanes is significantly higher.
I’ve looked at other airplanes like a Piper Cherokee 235, a Cherokee 6, Cessna Cardinal. My problem with those models, are they have airworthiness directives that relate to the wing spar lower caps. And I don’t want to deal with that problem.
Eventually I want to fly for the airlines, either FedEx or Atlas, and after flying with either of those companies for a while, I’ll be looking into a 182, because it is the perfect airplane for me. It won’t be the first airplane I ever own though, for that I’m looking to own a Luscombe 8A.
I have a 182 C 1960 model and wouldn’t trade it for a brand new anything. Love the Johnson bar flaps, one less automated system to fail. Climbs like a rocket winter or summer and at 21” and 2350 RPM I’m averaging 11 gallons per hour around 120 knots indicated. A great aircraft
I have hundreds of skydives from a c182. I love that plane. Good episode!
Hello from Minnesota! I went from a RV6 to a 182J and couldn't be happier. The RV6 was a blast to fly but just didn't haul enough to fit our cross country mission. Great episode!
My dad (Multi-engine CFII, A&P, AI, etc.) said the only way to keep a 182 on the ground is to fill it with concrete. I'm lucky enough to have inherited his 1969 Skylane and will fly it until I can't.
very balanced plane, can fly fast, comfortable and not expensive. I know this plane flew in Siberia at extremely low temperatures, withstood everything.
О, Кудри, рад видеть! У меня недавно был первый соло-полет, на Cessna 140, в том числе и благодаря тебе! Так что спасибо!
I started out in a Tecnam Eaglet (2 seater LSA). Got checked out in C172 afterwards. Definitely a cost effective way to do it.
Yep...and yes indeed, go fly a 182 ...love this airplane
I love being in the Cessna 182 when ATC tells a commercial that we are first in the pattern and he should maybe extend downwind for 30 miles. 😆
Dan I just saw your video on the Nine of Nines b-17, you did an outstanding tribute to it, thank you I have seen that airplane years ago and it saddens me for both the loss of it and especially those who lost their lives, BTW I love to watch Christie she is an asset to this great channel.
Thanks for your kind words.
Excellent episode Dan and Christy thank you. John's knowledge of Cessna's is amazing. He is definitely a wealth of knowledge. Thank you Matt for sharing your experience with us also. Y'all keep up the great work. Safe sky's. 🤘🇺🇸🛩️
Best because the best bang for your buck! Easy to fly and good on gas!
Great show. That plane is amazing. I had one for about 5y. Btw Matt I’m liking the “ I’m really not homeless look” 😎
Lol, so the long hair meant homeless?
@@TheFlyingController yea he kind of trashed his comment on the back end.
@@TheFlyingController ha ha.
In referral to one of your old videos on in the hanger where you said “ I’m really not homeless “ 😎
I haven’t even seen this video just yet (waiting to get a little time to sit down and enjoy this great content) and I’m going to give it a like! Keep it up guys! Your production quality is top notch!!
Got some time in 182s. No one’s talking about the nose heavy aspect of the plane. It’s why they are known for wrinkled firewalls.
The early model, pre 62 don’t have that problem. Different trim system.
@@JustAnumbr I find no reference anywhere that the per 62 182s didn't have this problem or had a different trim system. Besides, it's not the trim. The 182 is nose heavy and lacks elevator authority at landing speeds. Especially with full fuel and two good sized folks in the front with no baggage and empty back seats. In teh flare you'll have the yoke almost all the way back. At the flare, trim plays almost no roll.
Skywagons University has great videos on 180/182 and model year differences.
The early trim system moves the entire stabilator rather than just a tab.
It changes the pitch characteristics.
@@JustAnumbr I remember that now, and I watch all of Mark's videos. I don't remember him saying anything about the trim system differences and the nose heavy aspect of the 182. I'll go back and watch it again but if that is the case Cessna made a dumb engineering, aerodynamic and design move.
@@JustAnumbr I just watched both of the videos and Mark said nothing about the nose heavy issue while landing and in the flare. In the first video, he mentioned trimming out the nose heaviness in cruse, which you can do in any 182 from any year.
My first lessons were in a G1000 T182T in 2004.
I have owned my C-182B for the better part of 13 years and flown it all over the country. It is an amazing airplane, I did like this video however, when statements are made about "loading it to the roof" or if it "fits it flies" I think is a bit dangerous. These guys must be flying back east at low density altitude airports. The weakest part of my 182 is its relatively limited usefull load. Respect the usefull load and understand density altitude and yes - I cocnur one of the best airplanes ever built!
Excellent stuff bro
I have a 1962 182E with Monarch aux fuel tanks with the transfer pumps. 95 gallons is a lot of fuel. I have more fuel capacity than bladder capacity. It is a good airplane, wish I had time to fly it more. My wife wanted two doors and some room. She is comfortable flying with me. She likes to fly 2 to 230 legs then stretch a bit. 60 gallon tanks would be fine for us. Now I need a new panel with GPS, audio, engine monitor, autopilot and glass.
I'm 6'2" was 210lbs at the time and learned and soloed in a 150 but had to give up flying sadly after that for money reasons... :(
The 172 is absolutely a 4 person airplane. Just not a 4 fat person airplane. It was designed in the 1950s when the average person weighed 170 lbs and if you plug in the numbers with full fuel you are just under gross with 4 average people (density altitude allowing, of course). I just had 4 people (3 adults and one teen) in my 145hp G with temps in the 80s and it performed as advertised. You just need to be on point about computing weight and balance and factoring in density altitude. If you haul fatbodies, don't understand weight and balance or density altitude, then yes the safe thing for you to do is consider it a 2 place.
😲 You said it out loud! 🤣
Same goes for the Cardinal, which is my personal favorite.
@@eugeneweaver3199 There are several others, like the 150 that really gets picked on by people that do not understand them. It amuses TF out of me to listen to a fatbody tell me how "underpowered" a 150 is because it won't fly with him and his titanic instructor. Yea, it's the airplane's fault....go have another doughnut.
Let's face it, you're just poor.
@@Alyeska907 I own airplanes, of course I'm poor. And you're triggered by a fat comment which tells us all we need to know.
100% - I fly a 172S regularly with 4 people. Everyone's fit or relatively fit, but recently took around 15 work peeps for a flight over the course of an afternoon with weights way above what I'm used to. Little planning for group order versus fuel burn over the day. With 180hp, it just feels super comfortable in the 172 for bopping around northern california with friends - Diamond and Cirrus just feel so different for single day touring with a group.
I wonder if anybody every has ever attempted to transformed a newer 182 into a taildragger to essentially make it a modern 180?
Should do a similar episode on the Piper Archers but then unfortunately we lose the venerable John who is the appeal of these episodes.
I just bought a share into one!! 😍
182RGs were made all the way till the end 1986/87 like the 210s, so I don’t know what he says about stopping the 182RG in favor of the 210. 🤷🏻♂️
i have a 1972 182 i wqwont sell for love or money it is how i want it.i do have a glass panel and all the upgrades over the years. i was offered which shocked me for a 1972 225000 hell my 76 210 is not worth that much and it is a p model, i had it flown to italy last year since i am moving there the 182 has had a new wiring harnessss put in, last year not sure if i am gonna have it flown there or shipped in a container,
“Oh, so if you see a 2-bladed 182, it was pre-restart” - Dan. Lol, what?? How in the world does Dan take that away from what he’s hearing?? No, that’s how they LEFT the factory. Nevermind the option to change from a 2-blade to a 3-blade, which any CFI should know, especially a 210 owner.
I will admit to deficiencies in some (most) areas. Im still learning.
The motor is so underpowered, is there an STC that would allow us to increase the RPM up to $2,600 in the fuel pressure up a little bit so that we'd get the full 260 horsepower? And of course the same tactic only 235 horsepower turbo motor would give us 265 horsepower. Can we legally do this? If we bought a new plane would they legally do this right from Cessna? What engine does the guy on the right have in his plane right now, he said he has the same motor as Lola does
The 182 is definitely not underpowered, although the earlier models with the Continental IO470 engine, had an STC for upgrading to the IO 520 Continental. The restart models have the Lycoming IO 540, but I don’t know what upgrades or STC are available for this model.
If you’re flying a 182 and it’s underpowered get it checked ASAP because something is definitely very wrong.
Hourly rates without telling the hours flown is meaningless. At 200$ per hr you must fly A LOT (which is good) like hundreds of hours.
ITS UNFORTUNATE that Cessna has NOT updated their wing design to make this airplane FASTER after more than 40 years. With ALL that horsepower and constant speed prop it should top More than 200 Knots at 8,000 Ft ! for the today's prices at over $750,000!
White hair guy says you know alot
Have you ever seen a low wing robin? God made birds the correct way!
Video coming in a week or so of a Robin.
A blue lever is not rocket science, stop acting like it can't be a trainer. Terrible gatekeeping mindset.
Little difference???😂😂😂😂😂. He clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Avionics suites drove prices up. Not sure why an analog instrumented airplane increased in price.
Cessna went to a Lycoming engine because Textron bought them out and made business sense to use their own product as opposed to Continental.