Isuzu MU-X vs Toyota Fortuner: which 4WD wagon is BEST? (Fortuner vs MU-X 2022 comparison)

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июн 2022
  • Fortuner vs MU-X: which 4WD is best? Both of these vehicles are designed to tow heavy loads, go off-road and fit the whole family in. Both the Isuzu MU-X and Toyota Fortuner are based on utes, though they are a fair bit more refined than their pick-up siblings. Neither is as expensive as the new Ford Everest, but the Mitsubishi Pajero Sport is even cheaper than this pair.
    So, if you’re looking for a rugged 4WD wagon with seven seats and at least 3000kg towing capacity, should you buy the Toyota Fortner, the Isuzu D-Max, or something else entirely? Let’s explore.
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  • @umartanwir
    @umartanwir Год назад +2

    excellent review detailed and answers all the questions

  • @adrianjarvis8410
    @adrianjarvis8410 2 года назад +1

    Great review. Nice job.

  • @thenorthwatch777
    @thenorthwatch777 2 года назад +40

    I think a comparison by top specs and not price would also be welcomed. I struggle to see practicality in your soccer balls test really. I noticed space in which you did not load balls in the Isuzu. If this was about price then Pajero Sport Exceed should have been here as well.

  • @kennylim5773
    @kennylim5773 2 года назад +10

    Like your comparison. I bought the top model MU-X and my wife now want to drive it instead of her Toyota Yaris! :)

  • @samartz
    @samartz 2 года назад +18

    A fair eeview! Isuzu have made the Mux interior a lot nicer than the previous gen!

  • @craigmclaren4889
    @craigmclaren4889 Год назад +12

    This always boils down to personal choice and we actually set out to order the Pajero Sport. We compared Pajero Sport GLX, MU-X LSM and Fortuna GX, not the Everest due to reliability longer term and the extra expense of the upcoming model (current Ford owners). As for price, we were looking at base models to build a touring rig to our needs and we live in country town. The MU-X was quoted at 61K whereas the Fortuna was 55k and Pajero 55k. I had a workmate who with the previous gen MU-X had gearbox issues and had trouble getting repaired under warranty, eventually the gearbox was replaced as well as a persistent rear engine seal leak. Our purchase price factored in aftermarket gear as well, so the extra 5k is a lot of gear compared to the MU-X. At the end of the day and when taking into account what we use it for, touring, off-roading (hard stuff), towing, servicing and reliability as well as aftermarket addon's the Fortuna best suited us. The more we drove it the more at home we felt. In overseas markets they far more popular than here. Comparing these three it's the best off-road as it's traction control is far better and can be tipped nose down into a deep rut without falling into it cocking a rear up scarily high unlike the Pajero Sport which also has a smaller 68ltr tank with a distinct lack of grunt and no rear difflock. Point these three at a steep shale rutted ascent and watch. Where the others stop the Fortuna clambers up. Witnessed first hand in the Flinders Ranges. That extra power and torque makes it cruise more easily towing too. The rear seats will be removed with fridge and drawers to be installed as well as aftermarket suspension lift and AT tyres, like most do anyway, in addition to bar, lights, etc. As with every order regardless of make we have a long wait for delivery.

    • @26realmc
      @26realmc Год назад +1

      Just wondering when you ordered and when delivery is expected? I need a new tow vehicle by June 23.cheers

    • @craigmclaren4889
      @craigmclaren4889 Год назад

      If you expect something you'll be looking 2nd hand only. We ordered 21June and were told to expect delivery up to 12 months. Researching a little I found reports of 8 -12 months for Fortuna's, but with growing supply chain issues it could be anyone's guess.

    • @girshboy
      @girshboy Год назад

      In South Africa. Fortuner is the King of SUV , Ute based SUV.

  • @deepmead6086
    @deepmead6086 2 года назад +1

    Class review. Like it 👍

  • @kanzerveruskan
    @kanzerveruskan Год назад +3

    The Mux is the best that fortuner, Everest and Montero(Pajero) sport. Is a beast off road.

  • @philipc239
    @philipc239 2 года назад +7

    Both reliable both capable so value (money first) and interior design determines which one to buy

    • @ashleyhoff7561
      @ashleyhoff7561 2 года назад +1

      You can't ignore the extreme wait times for the MUX.
      And when you factor in that the mid spec Fortuner is $6K cheaper....

  • @micbarka
    @micbarka 7 месяцев назад +9

    The Fortuner is probably one of the best, if not the best, best value 4x4s any carmaker makes, let alone Toyota.
    I live in Karratha WA - Toyota and Toyota Hilux Country, where anything other than a Toyota falls apart.
    FYI. the Fortuner is an upgraded Hilux with a body kit - i.e., all its mechanicals are Toyota Hilux - Australia's best-selling car for years - upgraded with rear discs and rear springs (i.e., the Hilux comes with drums and leaf-springs).
    I've had my Fortuner for 3 years and 55 000 kms, and it is still as solid as new despite me taking it to some of the toughest offroad conditions in the country.
    When I bought the Fortuner it replaced an 80 Series Land Cruiser (still one of the best-regarded 4x4s ever made) and a Nissan Dualis, and it does the jobs of both cars better than either of those cars!
    Eg, the traction control system and factory rear locker means that I have taken the Fortuner to places that even the 80 Series would have struggled to go and to places where most Fortuner owners can only dream of driving. Eg, there is a track up telegraph hill just outside Karratha which is ~45 degrees and full of loose rocks, gravel and holes, and the Fortuner made it up no trouble at all with no wheel spin at all. The track to Gregory's Gorge is like a Sunday family drive for the family in the Fortuner despite being 30+km long rough track and its 2 water crossings - one always deep and the other always rocky.
    The Fortuner has been incredibly tough - as tough as the 80 Series. I have also driven it at 180km/h on a gravel road with complete stability and traction, 150km/h for 2 hours on a highway to get home before sunset, and it handles sand like a beast - the best sand driver I have ever driven including 80 series and a 2012 Hilux. I.e., it handles sand amazing well with all traction control systems off - i.e., as a raw basic 4x4. I have also done ~2000 km road trips with my kids with the Fortuner packed to the gills and the kids in the rear seats, and the Fortuner did the trip with ease and in comfort even after 20+ hours driving.
    And it is perfect for the school run and putting around town too.
    It also only cost me ~$50 000, which is amazing value for Toyota that can do anything and go virtually anywhere.
    I could take the Fortuner anywhere that a 300 Series owner would take their car - more places, because a 300 Series owner wouldn't take their $100 000+ car half the places I will take the Fortuner because I'm not worried about damaging a very expensive vehicle. I have also made no mechanical changes to the Fortuner because it comes out of the factory good enough for me to take it anywhere. I've improved the all-terrains and I’ve put on 32-inch all-terrains, but a suspension lift would be pointless because it goes everywhere I need to go with the factory suspension. And the factory suspension is solid around town, but also good for rough tracks too.
    And I bought it using Toyota's Access finance with a 6% interest rate and which gives multiple choices to refinance or sell it.
    The Fortuner is severely underrated because most reviewers ignore it and/or do not even try to push it anywhere to its full capabilities. I suggest reviewers actually try to push the Fortuner to its limits to discover its limits - they probably will not find it before their fear or their insurance makes them back off.
    My suggestion - GET A FORTUNER WHILE YOU CAN! When I bought my 2021 Fortuner they were rare around Karratha, but they are now everywhere as the locals are finally waking up to how good and capable they are.

    • @retepd1e
      @retepd1e 4 месяца назад

      Fully agree. The Fortuner is a super strong competitor but in Australia people make up their mind based on popularity i.e.Prado.

    • @jbangz2023
      @jbangz2023 2 месяца назад

      with a side folding 3rd row seats is a deal breaker

    • @benjaminwekesa4927
      @benjaminwekesa4927 2 месяца назад

      I love Fortuner, I haven't been to one but it's my dream car😊

    • @223bolty
      @223bolty 2 месяца назад

      Hey mate we live in port Hedland and are thinking of getting a fortuner the amount of Prados around this town is crazy, you can still get such a good deal on one of these compared Prado

    • @jbangz2023
      @jbangz2023 2 месяца назад

      3rd row seats side folding is worst

  • @haydndarragh1513
    @haydndarragh1513 2 года назад +23

    There is a big problem with your review! The Isuzu MU-X you have shown here is the 2021 Model. I own the 2022 model and much of the grievances you have with the reviewed Isuzu have been rectified in the newer model such as the button on the wheel to disable lane keep assist etc. and also the silly plastic in the glove box that takes up space (maybe some other things too). I know you rated the Isuzu as being the better car overall but you have massively short chaged the 2022 model given how much emphasis you put on the things you didn't like that don't actually exist in the 2022 model.

  • @andrewd7586
    @andrewd7586 2 года назад +5

    Well those Toyota fold up seats in the rear Ponch are reminiscent of my late father’s mid 1970’s Toyota Troopy!😱😂

  • @NarnieeBish
    @NarnieeBish Год назад +3

    My order is in for an MUX. Cant bloody wait!!

    • @christinelim4638
      @christinelim4638 10 месяцев назад

      Just wondering how long you waited and was it longer than they predicted?
      We have a Mitsubishi challenger that needs a new engine (God help me) we don't know if we should get the MUX LSU now or order and wait for the LST 🤔

    • @NarnieeBish
      @NarnieeBish 10 месяцев назад +1

      @christinelim4638 I ordered my LSU at the end of Jan 2023 and picked up end of June. Love it. Glad i went with the LSU. LST doesnt have much difference imo. Love it.

    • @NarnieeBish
      @NarnieeBish 10 месяцев назад

      @@christinelim4638 originally told August / September

  • @Noyota2
    @Noyota2 9 дней назад

    Isuzu has utterly reliable and enduring 4JJ3 engine, it has a much better warranty (its rival's warranty didn't work for me) and where I live, it is a 10y million km warranty!! And it is roomier, more practical and offers a better ride than Fortuner can dream of.

  • @kobba2350
    @kobba2350 2 года назад +5

    Isuzu dealers will now do a free software upgrade on the 2021 model to enable safety features to be deactivated from the steering wheel button.

  • @RockGarden8888
    @RockGarden8888 2 года назад +4

    Hanging out for the new Everest review and new 5 seat Grand Cherokee . How long do think we have to wait?

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  2 года назад +1

      Everest still looking like August!

    • @craigmclaren4889
      @craigmclaren4889 Год назад

      Jeep will have no diesel, petrol only. So if your towing...

  • @vincecarlo
    @vincecarlo Год назад +8

    Isuzu MU-X for me
    Drives a lot better

    • @Noyota2
      @Noyota2 2 месяца назад +2

      And is more practical, better warranty, better ride. That 4jj3 engine is rated for >500,000km.

  • @wonniefamily
    @wonniefamily 2 года назад +25

    Many Fortuner owners remove the 3rd row seats giving you heaps of space. I would be interested to see off-road test.

    • @richardwalsh5570
      @richardwalsh5570 2 года назад +4

      Whipped my seats out, 15 minutes

    • @leftrightout.
      @leftrightout. 2 года назад +6

      Yep I removed the 3rd row seats as well. Love our Fortuner kills it off road. I think most of the tests have lost the main reason people buy this type of 4wd. That hard dash is so uncomfortable to sit on. ha ha.

  • @RockGarden8888
    @RockGarden8888 2 года назад +4

    Valuable comparison. Thanks Ponch

  • @farhancsgo_25
    @farhancsgo_25 2 года назад +9

    Isuzu MUX Is More To Practical, Passenger Accomodation & The Real 7 Seater

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  2 года назад +4

      The third row is really good on the Isuzu, yeah.

  • @thirdforth92
    @thirdforth92 2 года назад +2

    I envy this Red Fortuner in AU. Sadly, we don't have that color option here in the Philippines.

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  2 года назад

      It’s a good colour for the Fortuner.

    • @fullbass1426
      @fullbass1426 2 года назад

      Same deal with the ph spec MUX with ony cockroach brown and boring white on the topspec LSE. While AU gets better colors like red, cobalt blue and my fav obsidian grey.

  • @kellyr2681
    @kellyr2681 Год назад +4

    DPF issues with Fortuner and Turbo failures, Headunit failures and engine bay cracking in the Isuzu (prior to the new gen). I would prefer the Isuzu, but have had too many issues with my 2019 Mux.

    • @visitthailand4929
      @visitthailand4929 Год назад +2

      What issues you had ? Please share with me, I’ll buy Isuzu MUX tomorrow.

    • @kelvin869
      @kelvin869 Год назад +2

      @@visitthailand4929 Satellite Navigation and head unit needed replacing within 18 months. Turbo replacement required at 40,000 km. I have seen many engine bay cracking complaints as well. Mine didn't crack at the time l sold it. I don't know if the NEW VERSION has these same issues. Mine was a 2019 model.

    • @visitthailand4929
      @visitthailand4929 Год назад +1

      @@kelvin869 thanks dude

    • @RIZFERD
      @RIZFERD Год назад

      2022 Fortuner has no bugs anymore since the improvement Made in Indonesia.

  • @stphnmrk1
    @stphnmrk1 Год назад

    Is it every 10000 km oil change in philippines?

  • @normandeankugan7127
    @normandeankugan7127 6 месяцев назад

    I think it depends on preference, since it is not much of a different.

  • @danielwylie8380
    @danielwylie8380 2 года назад +12

    I drove both - bought the Fortuner. The 500nm motor is so much better and I like all the hard plastics and stuff - it’s a 4WD that gets used - it’s Hilux roots show and, coming from a Hilux, I quite like that.
    No idea why you’d buy either of these if you didn’t want to go offroad though - way better options around

    • @cooljool1
      @cooljool1 Год назад +2

      such as?

    • @angrysocialjusticewarrior
      @angrysocialjusticewarrior 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@cooljool1 For on the road? Everest, BMW X series, Audi Q series, Volvo XC series, Lexus NX, etc.

  • @franklopez1294
    @franklopez1294 Год назад

    I agree with this review

  • @Quokka_VR
    @Quokka_VR 2 года назад +24

    Both are good but I recently bought a new 2022 Pajero Sport Exceed instead. For me I wanted the ability to drive in 4WD on sealed roads and highways without been limited to 2H as in the Fortuner and MU-X.

    • @ricr.4669
      @ricr.4669 Год назад

      can't wait for the next gen Pajero sports

    • @xheadliner7199
      @xheadliner7199 Год назад +1

      yes but reliability? out the window?

  • @michaelrichards4664
    @michaelrichards4664 2 года назад +8

    Seems like a glaring mistake that off road capabilities aren’t in your comparison.
    Will there be a part 2 ?

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  2 года назад +4

      This just isn't an off-road comparison. We might do one in future, or in a megatest context, but this time we've concentrated on on-road touring, which is what so many buyers of these vehicles do.

  • @karelltulod3079
    @karelltulod3079 Год назад

    I like Isuzu mux and Toyota Fortuner

  • @ashleyhoff7561
    @ashleyhoff7561 2 года назад +10

    My counter points to the 3rd row. For many of us, the 3rd row is an option we are given and we don't really want. Regulation permitting, its far easier to remove the 3rd row on the Fortuner!

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  2 года назад +1

      Though to be fair, the third row is more of a hindrance in the Fortuner to begin with.

    • @MotorEnthusiast
      @MotorEnthusiast 2 года назад +1

      @ Chasing Cars. Once you have removed the third row, you have all that space for touring accessories. Driving the Toyota Fortuner everyday, I do not see the third row as a hindrance for my rear view. Again, this is my personal opinion.

    • @ashleyhoff7561
      @ashleyhoff7561 2 года назад +1

      @@MotorEnthusiast imagine how many soccer balls you could fit.... Mind blown 😂

    • @richardwalsh5570
      @richardwalsh5570 2 года назад +1

      Fortuner seats 10 minutes out. Second battery under bonnet Toyota no room in isuzu

  • @BruceWayne-tp6uo
    @BruceWayne-tp6uo Год назад

    Ich bin sehr große Fan von japanische Autos und bin selbst ein sehr glücklicher 2019er Toyota Camry Hybrid fahrer und liebe ihn einfach ❤❤ nur bei dem Vergleich würde ich mich für den Isuzu MU-X entscheiden weil der mir besser gefällt. Ich lebe in Deutschland und hier in Deutschland gibt es weder den Isuzu MU-X oder den Toyota Fortuner wenn man sich einer von den beiden kaufen will,muss sich importieren lassen. Also wie erwähnt würde ich mich bei dem Vergleich für den Isuzu MU-X entscheiden aber ob ich auf Toyota verzichten kann ist eine andere Frage 🤷🏻‍♂️🤔 schöne Grüße aus Deutschland 🤝

  • @gordonclark7632
    @gordonclark7632 2 года назад +6

    I am not sure why Toyota persist in storng the third row seats to the side instead of floor storage as others do? When folded up they reduce side vision.

    • @stoker10000
      @stoker10000 2 года назад

      I have a fortuner and when delivered expected the 3rd row seats to obscure vision, they hovever did not. This was confirmed when i removed the 3rd row seats (like everyone else does right after getting one).

    • @wendywang2594
      @wendywang2594 Год назад

      It’s easy to remove I guess?

    • @austinblanch1715
      @austinblanch1715 4 месяца назад

      Most of us don't won't the extra seats due to putting draws and fridge. If you want something with extra seats but a people mover.

  • @mwat22
    @mwat22 Год назад +1

    I don't understand why people are so hung up on trying to tow 3500kg in a 2400kg SUV that's not only dangerous but daft as well these aren't supposed to tow more than 2000kg please stop using that as a comparison metric

  • @theostanley2239
    @theostanley2239 2 года назад +14

    Odd. Very odd. 🤔
    In South Africa (and here in Namibia) the Fortuner is by far the preferred option.
    I am on my 3rd one.
    Before COVID hit it was around the top five vehicle bought of ALL vehicles.
    As an all rounder, nothing beats its reliability, practicality, dealer network (with better service than the Isuzu dealers), etc., etc…
    Yes it is not he most comfortable on road (get a Tiguan, etc.) or off-road (get a Prado, etc.) but nothing beats it for all round ability and price.
    BTW, my 2019 Fortuner had all the things you referred to in the rear, i.e. additional plug I the rear and additional parcel hangers.

    • @watevz221
      @watevz221 Год назад +1

      Fortuna is best the rest are shit....

    • @rapskaujama5178
      @rapskaujama5178 Год назад +3

      The MU-X just entered our(I'm Namibian) market...hasn't been around for as long as the Fortuna has. So more trust has been developed for the Fortuna, but it won't be long before we realize for ourselves which is much more preferable between the two. I personally like MU-X 😅

    • @yomie7026
      @yomie7026 11 месяцев назад

      Fortuners are everywhere now compared to the first and second generation models. I was starting to think Toyota was running a some sort of a special deal🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @ebail4445
    @ebail4445 2 года назад +12

    Fair comparation. Based on history we know the diesel engine reliability of isuzu is superior, but how about the quality of the suspension component between mux and fortuner?

    • @dolguldur4706
      @dolguldur4706 2 года назад

      The are on par...almost identical to be honest..similar system..similar suspension size..

    • @ebail4445
      @ebail4445 Год назад

      @@dolguldur4706 thanks mate

  • @vssvhoon760
    @vssvhoon760 11 месяцев назад

    Last I checked, the fortuner didn't have electric power steering.. the power button is only for throttle response..

  • @zayghamnawaz9617
    @zayghamnawaz9617 2 года назад +1

    What about off road performance, is the isuzu's traction control system on par with toyota.

  • @4allkidss
    @4allkidss 2 года назад +1

    Why mux has heavy steering? Hard while turning, any suggestion?

    • @abhiprayekumar7011
      @abhiprayekumar7011 Год назад +1

      7 seaters and other Ute’s generally have heavier hydraulic electric power steering rather than conventional power steering to minimize steering wheel movement and improved control off road . A light steering wheel will end up moving all over the place while off roading and over bad patches of road

    • @Pathaan1903
      @Pathaan1903 Год назад +1

      No issues with mine. I did have difficulty with the fortuner.

    • @4allkidss
      @4allkidss Год назад

      @@Pathaan1903 which one you think better vehicle mux or fortuner or etc?

  • @Suroyfamilia
    @Suroyfamilia 2 года назад +26

    We bought a 22 GXL Fortuner with leather & towbar for 60k, that same money was going to get us a base Mux. New gen mux is not good value for money any more! Wait time on Mux is 12-18 months vs 6 months for the Fortuner, The Toyota also has an extra 2 years warranty on drivetrain which you didn’t mention. No brainer for us, the Fortuner all the way.

    • @Scott-ix2cy
      @Scott-ix2cy 2 года назад +2

      Be fair ..the top spec mux is 63 k ..I have one and only waited 7months …

    • @Suroyfamilia
      @Suroyfamilia 2 года назад

      @@Scott-ix2cy we where quoted just over 60k driveaway for the base Mux, Im pretty sure the top spec is now close to 70k and thats the wait time we where given. I actually wanted the previous gen LS-T Mux but they had no stock.

    • @watevz221
      @watevz221 Год назад +2

      I thought about The mux and liked how It drove but that's about it and didn't like everything else about it so I Got the 2022 Fortuner Crusade 👌

    • @smsfsyd
      @smsfsyd Год назад

      @@Suroyfamilia Isnt top spec is on driveaway pricing @ $66600 or something. I am not sure why you have been offered $70k driveaway... ? I agree with you point on wait time. the dealer close to my home quoted 18 months.

    • @Suroyfamilia
      @Suroyfamilia Год назад

      @@smsfsyd they probably on sale now, but when i wanted to buy they where high 60’s with one i saw at 69990 here in north qld. I still dont think they are good value compared to fortuner anymore, previous model mux yes but not this one

  • @morganrutnum
    @morganrutnum 2 года назад +9

    Would be nice to perhaps focus on the fact that Pajero sport is cheaper (top spec is equally priced to these) but most critically comes with the ability to drive in 4wd in High range which is an element of mechanical grip that cannot be replicated in any other within the segment. I’m sure many buyers (esp. families would value this)

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  2 года назад +2

      Road-usable 4H is certainly a plus of the Pajero Sport (and the upcoming Everest, too)

    • @grantwells6189
      @grantwells6189 2 года назад

      But very poor power and torque. Especially if you want to tow

    • @ricr.4669
      @ricr.4669 Год назад +4

      @@grantwells6189 how many times people would be towing per yr? maybe get a truck the right tool for the right job

    • @grantwells6189
      @grantwells6189 Год назад

      @@ricr.4669 Still embarrassingly underpowered

    • @karelltulod3079
      @karelltulod3079 Год назад

      @@chasingcars Isuzu mux nice

  • @MotorEnthusiast
    @MotorEnthusiast 2 года назад +2

    You forgot to mention the Panoramic View Monitor on the Toyota Fortuner Limited including the SOS button (Australian spec). I can see why Isuzu MU-X is a better option in Australia even in the top specification LS-T model. (Special Drive Away Price plus Capped Price Service Offer). For Melbourne, Special Drive Away price is capped at $65,990. (Otherwise it’s $67,400 + on road charge of $6,373). Toyota Fortuner Limited (Melbourne) Drive Away price is $68,455.
    In New Zealand, Toyota claims a ground clearance of 279mm for the Fortuner. The only feature missing is the SOS button in the limited variant. The rest of the features remains the same. Total Drive Away $62,790 plus Govt. Clean Car fee of $2,587.50. Isuzu MU-X is priced at Recommended Retail Price $80,990 (On road charges are extra) plus Govt. Clean Car fee of $3,795.
    NZ website for Isuzu MU-X doesn’t mention any variant but what is shown and mentioned on the website is probably equivalent to the top spec LS-T. Also the website doesn’t mention any capped price servicing cost unlike the AU counter part.
    NZ website for Toyota Fortuner mentions a capped servicing at every 15,000 kms or first four years at $365.00 unlike the AU counterpart which is at every 10,000 kilometres or 6 months. With the Fortuner you get one service prior to delivery so technically it’s servicing every 15,000 kms or four years then on.
    I can see why you like the Isuzu MU-X better than the Toyota Fortuner even in the LS-U variant (Drive quality, Space, Service Cost, Overall Package).
    However, coming back to NZ, Toyota has a better resale value, plus the cost mentioned above is way different from that of AU. Toyota Fortuner Limited Total Drive Away Cost Price compared to the Isuzu MU-X is less.
    I came from a Nissan X-Trail ST 2WD model. So for me the ride quality is not any different in city conditions. But again the drive quality is my own opinion based on my prior limited experience. I can see where your expert opinion comes from and I don’t deny it but the price tag in NZ is good enough for me plus the brand. I had two Kia brand cars before and saw how resale was treated by Kia NZ dealers itself (let alone other dealers of different car brands) at the time of upgrading or reselling. That’s one reason I wanted to do go with a brand with better overall resale value. Time will tell me if the Toyota Fortuner is as reliable as the Toyota Hilux.
    Another reason to choose a Toyota Fortuner (NZ) is that it’s a Part Time 4WD for the price tag. If I had to pay big bucks as stated for the (NZ) Isuzu MU-X (again Part Time 4WD) then I would rather pay that money for a Toyota Prado VX which is a Full Time 4WD.
    I did consider a Mitsubishi Pajero Sport but again price tag, resale value and smaller fuel tank, took it off my list.

    • @mrme982007
      @mrme982007 2 года назад +1

      I was going to post the same thing. The MUX in New Zealand is an $80k car - same price as a Prado VX or interestingly the new V6 Everest Sport. The Fortuner is $62k. Is the MUX LST worth $20k more even with the superior driving dynamics? I’d say no.

    • @MotorEnthusiast
      @MotorEnthusiast 2 года назад

      @@mrme982007 I agree with you 100%.

    • @MotorEnthusiast
      @MotorEnthusiast 2 года назад

      @@mrme982007 When I booked the Toyota Fortuner Limited in July 2021 and received it at the end of Jan 2022, it was priced at a Total Drive Away Price of $61,290.00 (no Govt. Clean Car Fee) while the Isuzu MU-X was still at $80,990 (Plus On Road Charges). Plus at the time of booking I did not have to pay for any deposit and I could cancel on the deal anytime without having to pay any fees to Toyota NZ or the Toyota Dealership. In fact when the car came to NZ I was asked one final time if I still wanted the car or not and again it would cost me anything to cancel on the deal at that moment. In fact I got my car earlier as another customer backed out of the order at the last moment. Toyota NZ gave us a $50.00 gift voucher over during Christmas due to delays and the long wait.

    • @diansteyn7242
      @diansteyn7242 2 года назад

      If you say Toyota has better value, why is Isuzu the top ute of Australia?

    • @MotorEnthusiast
      @MotorEnthusiast 2 года назад

      @@diansteyn7242 The video is about Part time 4WD Wagons to begin with. I have stated certain facts one of them being the price tag which is black and white on the website. If you ask me as to “Why Isuzu is the best selling Ute in Australia?”, I will only say that if what you say is true then it is what it is. My comment is my point of view. You have your choice and preferences and that is all good.

  • @openbeta843
    @openbeta843 9 месяцев назад

    You should do your next review with load in the back.

  • @kcallender5766
    @kcallender5766 Год назад +2

    to be honest i deal with vehicles everyday and to me the hilux feels better then the D-Max

  • @whiskeybluez
    @whiskeybluez Год назад +8

    I'm replacing my 2020 Triton with SUV and besides mechanicals this time looking for a little comfort.
    Looked at MUX, Fortuner, Pajero Sport and Rexton.
    That Rexton while the cheapest, feels next level vehicle compared to the rest and probably second best to Pajero off-road.
    Engine also, most refined from the bunch.
    Still haven't made my mind but SsangYong is the favourite for now

    • @xheadliner7199
      @xheadliner7199 Год назад

      rexon is shit and not reliable. Stick to a proven brand.

    • @RIZFERD
      @RIZFERD Год назад +1

      Toyota for Life ;)

    • @jfc8681
      @jfc8681 Год назад

      But Ssang Young is shit

  • @richardwalsh5570
    @richardwalsh5570 2 года назад +9

    Drove both and Fortuner was headband shoulders above for me.
    Toyota 4k cheaper didn't come into it. Fortuner is great. There is a reason they sell so many overseas

    • @w1ldm4n82
      @w1ldm4n82 2 года назад

      Because it's made in indonesia?

    • @Pathaan1903
      @Pathaan1903 Год назад

      Highest sold ute based suv in South Africa. Also, the most stolen and hijacked…a risk I am not prepared to take with my kids in the car. The Isuzu is very overpriced here and the dealerships pathetic. The incoming 3.0 v6 Everest looks promising…but, not sure of Ford reliability. Then there is the incoming Mahindra Scorpio N Z8L diesel automatic 4xplor which should come in at a price point much lower than these other D class suvs. After sales may be crap but at least i would not have paid so much for it!
      Postea: just bought the MU-X. Got a good deal. Drives better than Fortuner and the old Everest. New Everest is prado price range… and well, its FORD.

  • @theadventurer6986
    @theadventurer6986 Год назад

    I agree

  • @spiralni
    @spiralni Год назад

    why do u say spice instead of space?

  • @nestorreveron
    @nestorreveron 9 месяцев назад

    MUX the Best, I have one 2023.

  • @harwinderpalsingh4334
    @harwinderpalsingh4334 2 года назад +4

    Toyota is as usual a reliable one.

  • @peterwest5661
    @peterwest5661 2 года назад +6

    Coming from a VF2 Sportwagon and needing a better tow vehicle spent 2 months driving Fortuner, MUX and Pajero Sport. Toyota first off the list. On bumpy roads felt like a ute, 10k services a joke. Loved the Mux interior and the way it felt on the road. Eventually bought a Pajero Sport GSR. Feels slightly smaller inside, pretty good interior, slightly soft suspension wise but 90% of our driving is city. Three biggest things 64k drive away with extras. Towbar, mats rubber and carpet and side window shields. Ordered in January picked up end of March. Deal breaker a real 4wd system unlike the prehistoric ones in the other two.
    Just done over 7500kms in May on a NT trip with friends and very happy.

    • @Suroyfamilia
      @Suroyfamilia 2 года назад

      Whats wrong with a 10k service? Rather be changing my oil sooner rather than later, Pajerosport is great vehicle but i hated the dash and centre console layout it felt so cramped compared to the Fortuner.

    • @26realmc
      @26realmc Год назад

      Too bad is has such a small petrol tank.

    • @angrysocialjusticewarrior
      @angrysocialjusticewarrior 8 месяцев назад

      @@Suroyfamilia I'm also interested in hearing why he has a problem with a 10k service. I thought 10k service was a good thing.

  • @jonasdelossantos627
    @jonasdelossantos627 Год назад

    which will win in bumper design?

  • @nauuwgtx
    @nauuwgtx 2 года назад +2

    Wait, you guys have a red Fortie? I hope all

  • @alibonaya433
    @alibonaya433 7 месяцев назад

    Why haven't fortuner put a sunroof though aghrr... anyway as for me i'll go for the fortuner all day everyday even if we has a prado in the midist. As it's reliable,durable more powerful and seems more sportier /sleekier /sexier.The MUX looks boring for me MY POV though.

  • @PotatoesRnice
    @PotatoesRnice Год назад

    bro you didn't even mention the silly electronic handbreak in the Isuzu... it's a deal breaker for me

  • @jonah3543
    @jonah3543 Месяц назад

    These are both 4x4s, did it ever occur to you to take them off road.

  • @TimmoMcGinn
    @TimmoMcGinn Год назад

    I am new to your channel so not familiar with whether you have any interest in off-road issues which to be fair is important to me having beaten up my Subaru forester taking it everywhere and looking to upgrade......How can you do a comparison between these vehicles without including a rigorous assessment of their 4wd off-road capabilities? This seems to be the same test you would expect for a sedan comparison. Ride quality is clearly going to be compromised to some extent by off road capability. Potential buyers of these vehicles are probably going to want to know which vehicle you are less likely to get stuck or bogged in??

  • @irfanam
    @irfanam 2 года назад +5

    Well, no comparison of off road capabilities, i know why

    • @franga7870
      @franga7870 2 года назад +1

      Why?

    • @zoltrix7779
      @zoltrix7779 Год назад

      Because people don't use them off road and they are fooling themselves, they should buy a Kluger and actually have a vehicle that is nice to drive.

    • @irfanam
      @irfanam Год назад +1

      @@zoltrix7779 then say it is a on road comparison. Fortuner has a stiff suspension because it is designed for off road. That becomes a disadvantage on street. But being able to off road is a feature which any review should cover

  • @paulmcintosh5589
    @paulmcintosh5589 2 года назад +8

    Again the single most important point would be overlooked, the new mux is by far the safest option, the toyota will be an old passenger safety cell. The mux will use the same boron alloy roof structure intersection sections like the new Dmax this is 106 percent increase in roof structure over the current Hilux design/fortuner, this design is developed by Volvo in roll over tests all will have 5stars, but roll over tests aren’t considered in these tests.
    I would encourage anyone to go look at toyota roll overs and see how far the roof crushes down on all toyota vehicles.

    • @grantwells6189
      @grantwells6189 2 года назад

      Toyota More power and torque if you want to tow

    • @rodsargent
      @rodsargent Год назад +5

      @@grantwells6189 doesn't help if you land on your head

  • @kcallender5766
    @kcallender5766 Год назад

    it may be me but i think he give more coverage on the D-Max. but at the end of the it is what it is

  • @manjindersingh3743
    @manjindersingh3743 Год назад +3

    When it comes to dependability name comes to my mind is only Toyota. Unlimited km warranty in fortuner but only 150,000km in Isuzu that explains all.

  • @MM-np4md
    @MM-np4md Год назад

    "for - chew-nehr" has always been a weird sounding pronunciation to me

  • @johnmillergayagoy8101
    @johnmillergayagoy8101 Год назад

    What's the best MU-X or Fortuner?

  • @richardwalsh5570
    @richardwalsh5570 2 года назад +8

    I thought Fortuner drives heaps better

    • @unna1996
      @unna1996 2 года назад +1

      They are specially the 2021 fortuner , speed pick up heaps better engine are more quite than the old one but what this guy dont realise is that people who buying this car will upgrade their suspension to take it off road or towing and you an make then alot more comfortable just by doing that.

  • @vaskodimoski5690
    @vaskodimoski5690 Год назад +1

    The mux has 2000 litres of room with all seats folded down the Toyota fortuner is no where near that even the prado is smaller

  • @ramzanshaikh1656
    @ramzanshaikh1656 2 года назад +2

    Second 🥈

  • @zoltrix7779
    @zoltrix7779 Год назад +2

    All these ute based SUVs feel like cheap peices of crap, unless you have a specific need to buy one, don't. The Fortuner especially seems underdone in every area, I mean even the Hilux its based on isn't that great. Will be interesting to see if the new Everest will step up the game. Still most people if they really think about it, will be better off in a unibody SUV and admit they will never take it off road.

    • @kennethboehnen271
      @kennethboehnen271 10 дней назад

      What are your top picks?

    • @zoltrix7779
      @zoltrix7779 9 дней назад

      @@kennethboehnen271 You mean if they admit they don’t actually take it off road?

  • @Jamieandrew1156
    @Jamieandrew1156 Год назад +2

    Do you really need to watch the review, the Forturner has been mediocre since it was released and they have barely updated it. Competition shits all over it

  • @mytamasti
    @mytamasti Год назад

    If the mu-x drives anything like the dmax, it’s not great

  • @smsfsyd
    @smsfsyd 2 года назад +4

    18 month lead time for MUX!

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  2 года назад +1

      Fortuner isn’t so badly affected, though Prado certainly is.

    • @alexbarquin9
      @alexbarquin9 2 года назад +1

      Fortuner 6 months wait.

    • @alexanderlombard4838
      @alexanderlombard4838 Год назад

      I bought one with half a week lead because I wanted a specific color. Toyota has a 2 month wait because of their plant being affected by floods. Well that is in SA

  • @vikasrandev5831
    @vikasrandev5831 Год назад +1

    Fortuner is a way better off roader than MU-X

  • @rakhsiprayogo82
    @rakhsiprayogo82 2 года назад +7

    Toyota Fortuner is faster Than Isuzu MUX

    • @tanmupps5997
      @tanmupps5997 2 года назад +3

      No

    • @unna1996
      @unna1996 2 года назад +1

      @@tanmupps5997 wanna bet.? I drove both mux and 2022 fortuner for the test drive me and my wife did 2 months ago fortuner pick up heaps quicker in the upgrade 2022 2.8lt feel alot more grunt than the 3.0 lt mux .

    • @johnmarky2330
      @johnmarky2330 2 года назад +2

      Isuzu mu-x 3.0 is faster and bigger engine than toyota fortuner 2.8

    • @unna1996
      @unna1996 2 года назад

      @@johnmarky2330 what 2.8 and 3.0 not really much different,,, bigger engine only producing 140 kw and 450 nm ,,, go and test drive the new 2021 fortuner first then come and tell me , me and my missus been test drive 7 seaters 4wd and the top 2 we like so far which is fortuner and a prado . Kerb weight between those 2 not much different but that upgrade 2.8 really has some kick not here to talk up the toyota cuz we looking for a family car ourselves atm just tell ya from my experiences.

    • @craigmclaren4889
      @craigmclaren4889 Год назад +1

      Yep Fortuna's extra grunt is noticeably punchier. I'd know which I'd prefer to tow with.

  • @piercel.6845
    @piercel.6845 Год назад

    Mux not a full time 4wd

  • @dougdownunder5622
    @dougdownunder5622 2 года назад +3

    MUX tow rating is marketing con. Reality is 350 kg on the tow bar = not much added weight in car.

  • @francoiscoetzee1271
    @francoiscoetzee1271 2 года назад +2

    Sad that the presenter is so Toyota biased…

  • @richardwalsh5570
    @richardwalsh5570 2 года назад +4

    You should not be towing 3500 kg with ISUZU, that is bs

  • @ekamjotsingh1467
    @ekamjotsingh1467 Год назад

    Fortuner is real og in my home country 😊

  • @port8565
    @port8565 7 месяцев назад

    test them off road.....

  • @richardwalsh5570
    @richardwalsh5570 2 года назад +2

    9.3l per 100 our Toyota with 1500km on it

  • @richardwalsh5570
    @richardwalsh5570 2 года назад +6

    Have driven both on a country road totally disagree with this reviewer, Isuzu feels like truck.

    • @Portyhouse
      @Portyhouse 2 года назад +2

      Mate I’ve had my Isuzu for 6 months, might souls like a lite truck engine but handles like a dream!

  • @richardwalsh5570
    @richardwalsh5570 2 года назад +14

    Fortuner has heaps more power

  • @ahh1180
    @ahh1180 2 года назад +7

    IMO the Isuzu better looking car

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  2 года назад +1

      Fair enough! Of course design is subjective.

    • @franga7870
      @franga7870 2 года назад +2

      @@chasingcars Lol this is a clear win for isuzu

  • @orthodoxmuslim
    @orthodoxmuslim Год назад

    The fortuner is the better choice; it's has a better and quicker engine, more durable, spared parts are almost everywhere and cheaper, and most of all, it has a higher resale value. My 2017 fortuner V 4x4 is still like brandnew until now and its resale value is PHP1,500,000 / AUD 44,000 VERSUS the 2017 Isuzu MU-X which is only PHP 950,000 / 27,580 AUD.

  • @stevegordon-hall2732
    @stevegordon-hall2732 2 года назад +2

    It might be more refined than the old model Mux but still drive like a truck compared to the ford Everest.

    • @Portyhouse
      @Portyhouse 2 года назад +4

      My last Ford Everest had to have 2 gearboxes under warranty changed…they don’t last

    • @jaspereggs2749
      @jaspereggs2749 Год назад

      I prefer to choose MUx the only brand that is rated B10 in their engine. Compared to Ford they arent as realible compared to Isuzu or toyota or even Mitsubishi.

  • @biscuithammer2000
    @biscuithammer2000 Год назад

    62000 lol now its worth 70k

  • @KnowTheNewOfficial
    @KnowTheNewOfficial Год назад +3

    Isuzu mux has diesel engine which is great and diesel engine can run easily minimum 1 million to 1.5 million miles without any big issues
    But on the other side gasoline petrol engine can run only 300k to 500k km, not more 👉
    So Isuzu mux diesel varient is the best for lifetime reliability and usage

  • @theadventurer6986
    @theadventurer6986 Год назад

    Mux its better than fortuner

  • @ephrancd1
    @ephrancd1 Год назад

    The interior built quality in Isuzu is garbage especially the interior doors you can feel it moves and the arm rest of door handles already feel loose brand new.

  • @coldude2559
    @coldude2559 2 года назад +3

    They are both very agricultural...not my cup of tea.

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  2 года назад +1

      Niche cars built for a purpose!

  • @anakinskywalker4113
    @anakinskywalker4113 2 года назад +4

    I like the Isuzu better

  • @radmandudemo92
    @radmandudemo92 2 года назад +2

    MUX is hideous

  • @ammmll3328
    @ammmll3328 2 года назад +8

    Isuzu engine very very reliable than fortuner and ISUZU is the Better looking car for less money

    • @Suroyfamilia
      @Suroyfamilia 2 года назад +1

      For less money? How did you come to that conclusion? A base Mux is 6k more than a base Fortuner.

    • @ajishjoseph
      @ajishjoseph 2 года назад +1

      Isuzu better looking..lol..you joking.. i was waiting for new Mux but after seeing its overseas photos changed my mind. It doesn't look like a serious 4x4.

    • @craigmclaren4889
      @craigmclaren4889 Год назад

      exactly.

  • @rowniljamescabug7491
    @rowniljamescabug7491 Год назад

    nice