Voge DSX 900 full bike review in English (The bike that broke the internet)
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- firstly please excuse the wind noise. Ok guys here is the full walk around review
of the Voge 900 DSX (BMW F850 GSA) comparison BMW F 850 GSA review below
coversion to ££££ is £7590 😮 no brainer
• 2022 BMW F850GS Advent...
full specifications from the Voge website
The 900DSX is the fruit of the intense collaboration between the Loncin group, to which Voge belongs, and the best German engineering. This allows Voge to equip the 895 cc in-line twin-cylinder engine with a 270º crankshaft, liquid cooling with 8-valve DOHC cylinder heads and slipper clutch, in a trail bike of its own design and development for which a maximum power of 70Kw (95CV) at 8,250 rpm and a torque of 95 Nm at 6,250 rpm. A cutting-edge engine with maintenance intervals of 10,000 km.
It is worth highlighting its electronic safety equipment with LCA lane change assistance, warning of the proximity of other vehicles through a light in the rearview mirror, in addition to a very complete equipment that we invite you to discover and that includes, among other elements: cruise control CCS, TMPS real-time tire monitoring, QSS up&down quick shift, electronic throttle (ride by wire), power control with 4 driving modes; economical, rain, offroad and sport, heated grips and seat, this at an affordable 825 mm high, hand protectors, 5V/12V power outlets, double front disc (305 mm) and single rear disc (240 mm) Brembo, ABS detachable dual-channel, 21 and 17-inch tubeless spoke wheels, height-adjustable windshield, side guards, skid plate, stainless steel silencer, aluminum swingarm, luggage rack, Pirelli Scorpion Trail II tires, TFT screen instrument panel 7” in full color with different visualizations, 1080p HD front camera to record movements, connectivity with mobile phone, keyless system with one-button start, adjustable Kayaba suspensions with inverted fork and rear monoshock with 194 mm travel front and 198 mm rear and steering damper.
All this under a modern and attractive design to which is added as an accessory, a set of original aluminum side cases and top case "by Loboo" to match the motorcycle
BTW, I've just test ridden this bike from Moto PC in Portimao (2 days ago) currently on a Tuareg 660, great bike (now sold) the Voge rode as smooth as butter 👌👌👏👏
Currently shown as £9000 on the road here in the uk on Moto GB site so we’re shafted on price already by around £1500 compared to Spain. What they need to watch is the APR offered on financing its rather high compared to some competitors making it not such the bargain it first seems if comparing monthly payments.
Prices have started to rise after the initial offers France now with the full luggage on Vogel FR is a whipping 12500 Euro
Germany still offering at 10800 Euro
Spain and Portugal till end of May for orders still 9700 Euro with the luggage.
Crazy price. It's a Shame all markets are not the same. The rate it has sold though it was inevitable the price would rise, the Euro 5 Himalayan 411 jumped up 1000 Euro or 20% after sales took off. Ride safe ✌️
Been looking forward to this, thank you for the review.
Only issue here in the UK is lack of dealer network and dealers reluctance to take Chinese bikes in PX should you ever want to move it on. It's a shame as that's all that's stopping me putting a deposit down on one tomorrow.
Look forward to your future findings...
voge have a full dealer network in Spain. For sone reason it's done through a third party Moto GB. But that may change. Thanks for the comments. Ride safe.
Cant see a quick shifter on the picture of the gear linkage ?
It says quick shifter on the uk website?
Thoughts
@@markpulling12 there is a quick shifter it's internal not on the linkage. At 4k revs just keep the throttle open and upshift from 2 to 6th, I tend to downshift on the clutch lever though as I find downshifting a bit abrupt on the auto blipper
@@motechRevolution perfect thanks I've never heard of an internal one best wishes mark
@@markpulling12 apparently the new BMW 900 is the same. Google 2024 f900gs photos and zoom in on the shifter there is no external sensor there. Same engine and gearbox as the Voge 900 DSX. The DSX is down tuned to meet A2 restrictions on a large bike. Large horse power bikes must meet 48 hp which has to be at maximum 50% of the original bikes horse power. The DSX at 95 HP fits the bill. The F900gs 105hp cannot be restricted because half of it's tuned HP is more than 48hp. Some random info for you. But they are the same unit ✌️
@@motechRevolution thanks I'm reviewing this soon in the UK and wanted to get my facts right 👍
Many thanks
4 k video processing guys please drop by later for HD footage
I have ordered a Voge900 here in the UK but was a bit concerned with the 825mm seat height as I am 6ft1 but Moto GB (importer) have confirmed 850 mm same as Germany.
@@IanjamesMiller there are already higher seats being made by second party producers. They have only been on the market since the beginning of May. Depends what your inside leg is, it's a tall heavy bike. You will be ok with the standard seat I think. Maybe later change it later
@@motechRevolution
Inside leg 32 so should be ok. Ordered the bike from your reviews. I have a bmw which I am part exchanging. I was going to go for the 850 or 900 gs adventure but at 13k without luggage the Voge at just over 9k makes sense. I have owned a Benelli trk a number of years ago and had no bother with it at all.
@user-bo2jp8cp3d I'm a 31 inside leg and I can only flat foot it with the wife on the back, solo one foot is on the ball of my foot. Yes compared to the F850gs and the 900 it's a no brainer especially with the spec it carries. It's not perfect, but the f850gs isn't also. What's the wait like in the UK. I see MotoGB are importing it. We have a main dealer network in Spain, but I'm sure you will get good after sale service in the UK. Keep a light dressing on the anodised wheels. Lots of reports of oxidation. Mine are still fine after 3000k
@@motechRevolution
I believe I am looking at later September for delivery. Actually ordered it from Moto GB direct who are also Wigan motorcycles. Dealers in Scotland where I am based are not so hot about getting back to me or about discussing a px. They are 4 hrs away from me but I don’t mind that and if I have to go back to them re serving etc I will make a day of it with an overnight at a nice hotel. Seem like a decent bunch who came back to me very quickly.
@@motechRevolution
Have you had any issues regarding recalls or frequent dealer visits with problems ?.
Why a twin of a F850GSA? The actual BMW midweight adventure is the F900GS and there the adventure trim. Or is the model name in Spain 850 instead of 900?
Just curious because also another UK guy mentioned a F850 as twin to the Voge.
A lot of the components are similar to the f850gs although the he engine is similar to engine and gearbox in the older f900r or the the f900xr. Info is very sketchy as all the engines are Loncin designed and built from a brief from BMW. The other probable answer is that the f900gsa and the VOGE share the same engine, but under agreement from BMW its limited to 95hp, although it could be to be in the A2 restricted max bhp. Whichever it is it sounds and rides like a BMW f850gs. The jury is still out. Thanks for your input. Ride safe ✌🏻
Edit the weight is also exactly the same as the f850gsa
@@motechRevolution ok, thank you. I was just curious but now I understand that the Voge is based on the old BMW F850 but not on the all-new F900. Good review, enjoy your bike in Spain and ride safe.
@@TheWuselnThe new f900gs is basically the same engine as the previous 850gs, bmw just over clock/increase the horsepower in the new f900gs.
The new engine bore is 895cc the f850gs was 853cc so it's not an over clock, it's the same engine over bored to a higher capacity. BMW already had a different 900 engine bore in it's other f900r bikes for some time now. The 900 XR being the same 95hp as the voge 900DSX
I've ordered the black one, comes in August. Do you know if the Givi BF11 tank ring fits this model 🤔
Not sure, if the Givi tank ring will fit, but I'm guessing by August there will be a ton of accessories for it. I like the black one it looks cool. But I have had a matt black one before, never looked clean in our Spanish climate, showed dust and water marks like crazy. Kept clean looks stunning though
It looks like the f850 gas ring will fit 🤔👍
Thank you Paul. Just found this Video.
Anyway i would not compare this bike to the BMW that much, we have not to defend ourselves.
For sure BMW made some regulations what to do or what not to do with the bike. Some stuff is just different so subjektive, some stuff is painfully like the 17 Liters tank limit. You also see that they "stretch" it optically, so my bike will maybe loose the crash bars and the front panels soon to make it more look like an Enduro 😅
BTW the travel suspension is, confirmed by the german importer, front 205mm and back 220mm. They talked about the european version and not only germany.
Drive save and thanks for all the fish 😅
No it's not a BMW, I was just pointing out BMW have been using Loncin engines for a while, just like before they used a Rotax engine, the 900 is a fantastic bike, it's definitely caused waves in the Market here in Spain. It's the number 1 selling bike by a long way. Ride safe and thanks for the comments ✌️
I also think the German version may have taller suspension and seat height than ours, our seat height is stated at 825, whilst the German site states 850. Our suspension is also a bit lower that maybe the reason
@@motechRevolution Hey Paul. Nobody ever measured the other european versions. Well its also nearly impossible because it depends on the structure of the seat, or better how much you sink in. On the other hand how to measure the maximum suspention travel without breaking it. 😅
650, 700 and 800 were rotax, 750, 850 and the new 800 and 900 are Loncin...
Wanneer komt deze naar België?
Maybe, they are selling well in France
2:37 great, a dashcam built-in to the bike, which means police can seize the memory card in the event of an incident, and use it as evidence in the UK at least, if it's on your person they can't seize it, but cameras built into the vehicle they can, just a thought if you do anything a bit iffy 😉👍🏻
Don't break the law and you're fine.
That bike is not 70% same as the GS, yes the engine is similar and bike has very Similar look, frame is very diff, swing arm is diff, subframe is diff, plastics are completely diff, tank is diff, seat is diff etc
Cant decide between Voge 900 or Ibex 800..they both seem to impress people who own them🤔
The Ibex 800 sport model is comparable in price, both are good bikes it’s down to styling and preference and the 21 inch front wheel. If you want a more dual sport then the DSX more road adventure tourer the CF the base CF cannot match the DSX on spec it’s up there with the cf 800 explore. But then there is a huge price difference. The DSX is more than 50% a BMW f900GSA so it’s a personal thing. Which ever you choose it will serve you well. Here in Spain the CF 800 MT sport is losing value fast. Second hand DSX 900 are selling for more than new price because of the wait. CF moto have never had that or the sales here. Try both it should help
So what to choose this or cfmoto 800mt
I would say if you have experience with the KTM 790 or BMW F850GS engines that will probably be your guide, Personally I was interested in the CF Moto 800 mt but the explorer version which was €12000 here in Spain a huge €3000 more than the VOGE. But that was last year. I prefer the styling on the VOGE, but the price was a no brainer for me. Another consideration is that VOGE is now number 3 in Spain by sales and the dealer network is extensive. CF Moto not so much, Thanks for the comments. ✌️
@@motechRevolutionwhat if the 800mt explore has the same price tag with the voge ? I’m between the two and I can’t decide….
@@dsmpampis it’s a personal choice I would want the Explore model which is now €12300. It depends on your needs there isn’t much between them. Except the €3300 of course. Anyone who can get a deposit down on a DSX 900 at the current price would be crazy not to. In my personal opinion. It’s an amazing bike at an amazing price.
@@dsmpampis so this is basically what you are looking at with the Voge 900DSX
www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/bmw/f850gs/2018/
@@motechRevolution thanks for reply i own a fjr 1300 but in the future could be a brand new bike still dont know if its mt800 touring or voge 900 greetings from Bosnia p.s watching all your videos on the voge
Hola estas en España. En Albacete. Mi tierra. Un saludo.
Creo que es Murcia. Por la zona del valle de ricote.
@Angel_Lorente correcto, el lugar de este vídeo es el otro lado de la sierra del Oro en el carretera a Cieza.
@@motechRevolution La zona es conocida para mí. Vivo a 35 km de Cieza, en Hellin. Aquí tenemos la misma geografía. Oye, podría gustarte dar una vuelta con la trail por la sierra de los donceles.
@@weeltech Voy a mirar la zona en Google Maps y hacer una ruta por allí. Me encantan los caminos alrededor de Riopar, con un paisaje impresionante. Viaja seguro hermano ✌️
why pay high BMW tag if the engine is Chinese anyway, better get this I think.
Most brands outsource manufacturing now Apple being the most well known. The engine, chassis etc are all German engineering, just produced in China. So Technically if BMW opened a manufacturing plant in China staffed by Chinese it would still be a BMW. Location for Build is not relevant. Just because German men and women don’t make and assemble it, doesn’t mean it’s inferior. The Chinese have some of the world’s best technology. That said a lot of people will now think much more about paying double just for a badge. The more I ride mine the more I’m blown away.
@@motechRevolution I may be wrong but in this case the engine was actually not designed by BMW but BMW bought it from Loncin. It's not that same engine as in original F800GS mounted by Rotax in Austria.
@@andrewsoldan6050 Interesting I knew that Rotax made the original engine prior to 2005. Interesting article below. If the engines are designed and developed by loncin, it puts a whole new spin on the argument for the Voge range.
www.loncinindustries.com/en/RV/NewsDetail.aspx?catid=772&id=2146789734