VOGE DSX 900 or CF moto 800 ? plus 20w 50 oil change
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Hi guy's, what a mess, I still do not have my DJI mic so the sound is pretty bad, its delayed from Amazon. Enjoy my general musings on the current bike market, and trying 20w 50 oil in the Voge. Take care guys. Ride safe 🙏✌️✌️✌️
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No oil Filter Chance? And i heard behind the Filter is another screw where you get a lot more oil out
@@David-m7f3g true I didn't change the filter as the oil had just been changed at the first service. I changed the oil for a summer grade has we were seeing 40c plus temperatures. I must admit the handbook was sketchy regarding the second Allen bolt. I'm changing the oil at 6k again mid service so I'll change the filter and drain the sump and the pan.
@@motechRevolutionSounds good. And you dont carw about the warranty, i mean no Service at the dealer?
Salve, ma il bulloncino interno al foro con testa a brucola per svuotare la camera dei manovellismi non l'ha fatto? Canale eccezionale, complimenti.
I know, in all honesty I didn't know there was an additional drain bolt at the time. Thanks for your comments ✌️
I bought the bike. I am waiting for delivery. What did you pay for the luggage-equipment? I am living in Germany and they can not tell my what it will cost. Friendly greetings, Frank
900 € in Spain.
@@oscargomezfarfan1824 thanx!
It's on offer for €898 but the Spanish Voge page it's only valid until the end of June, so I would pre order.
@@motechRevolution thanx!
Did you drain the oil with only one plug? There's supposed to be two of them.
I only used the main oil drain and the amount that came out was equal to what the manual says. My Royal Enfields have a couple of drain plugs the Voge seems to just have one
Even though the manual says just one plug, I believe there are two of them, like the BMW 900 XR.
@@Carlosguca539 Yes, the Spanish manual is wrong. The English translation said 2 plugs.
Hi guys thanks for the info, I guess I missed 150ml or so from the internal oil pan, no foul this time . I had only covered 500km since last oil change. Thanks for the info guys. ✌️
Update on the DSX 900 you will need to remove the bash plate to get to the second 5 mm hex drain bolt.
How much cost cfmoto 800mt explorer in spain?and how much voge900ds?in greece cfmoto explorer costs 10999 and voge 9500.a honda transalp costs 11500(not tricolor) and the tenere 11600(too expensive)
Voge 900: 9.188 € aprox
800MT Explore: 12.790 € aprox
Both include all the registration taxes. CFMoto includes top case and paniards in that price right now. In the Voge is an option.
The CF Moto Explore in Greece is the cheapest I have seen. There seems to be concerns in the UK over cam failures on the KTM 790. They are affecting residual prices, only time will tell
@@motechRevolution yes,its cheap.and the touring version 9999.i dont know...i ll wait for the cfmoto 800mtx.or even better the new tenere
The 900 looks great but i watched them both and i think the cfmoto 800 explore has the edge its more expensive but for me better
The CF Moto 800 is a great bike, just the lack of main dealership support that puts me off.
Hi, no one seems to be able to answer properly if seat is heated for both or just for rider? As it is from one piece and connector leads to the middle it would make sense that both are heated, but what is the true? I am still waiting for mine so can't check haha
Rider only.
I'm under the impression it's the rider only, I used both the grips and seat warmer about 5 weeks ago, they worked perfectly. I have read it's both seats but , I'm sure in the manual it's the driver/pilot only
professional ! 😈
The w stands for winter. So you've just wasted oil and money?
@@dowster64 it’s the Recommended oil from Voge in the manual for temperatures over 38c. Mid to high 30s 5w 50 which is what the dealership put in at the bank end of spring. In the Winter I will put in the recommended 10w 40 when we are around 20c . So frankly with temperatures locally exceeding 40c or up to 110f I will stick with the official manual
Here’s an article 20w 50 is hot weather oil
Scroll down to viscosity of OIL!!!
microdothelmet.co/a/amp/blogs/news-events/essential-motorcycle-oil-guide
@motechRevolution . You are of course fine to do what you want, but it doesn't stop a 20w-50 and a 5W-50 multigrade oil being exactly the same viscosity at 100 deg C.
I learned a long time ago, you learn more from the trained professionals rather than a d.i.y. individual reading from a manual written for instance in Chinglish. Watch the videos specific to oil viscosities, how they’re best used and follow on with the correct method of carrying out an oil change from a qualified mechanic.
Many RUclipsrs run out of material and make videos for the sake of maintaining continuity and long term income stream.
There are literally hundreds of quality videos available on how to carry out the most basic of procedures such as an oil change on a motorcycle by mechanics who set out to educate in the correct procedures and justify their method with fact gained by experience and knowledge.
Unless you are intending to keep the motorcycle until it becomes a classic the only benefit to changing the oil at ridiculously short intervals is for the next owners. Modern motorcycles have a limited life compared to yesteryear, they’re computers with two wheels and the technology will be out of date in just a few years. It is a well known design feature originating from the U S of A, built in obsolescence.
Each to their own of course, if you enjoy playing with spanners so be it but what it costs to carry out an early oil change could fill the tank and take you for a ride.
@@andycapp3867 thanks for all your comments. As long as the oil is viscous enough at cold start at 35 to 40c I’m happy, I always let my bikes get to operating temperature the DSX is 90c at the upper temperature any 50 oil will be the same. I don’t want low viscosity oil at startup in high temps. That is why 20w oil is recommended. It’s way too viscous for temperate climates when cold and also for Southern Spain in the winter. I have swapped engines, gearboxes in bikes and 4x4s for years. I’m not asking anyone to change their own oil and filters if they don’t want to. 90% of bikers spanner on their own bikes, especially adventure bikes, you need to be able to fix a puncture, or plug a tire and carry a decent tool kit. I’m not trying to justify my actions, I don’t need to. I have had sports cars where I have dropped the oil twice a year. It’s a personal choice. One bike I have recently sold I had for 20 years always serviced my self. It was mint when I sold it, and for more than I purchased it for. If you cannot change your own oil and filters and adjust the valves you are probably a weekend dash to Starbucks type of rider. Stay safe my friend 👍✌🏻
Hola. Donde puedo comprar las protecciones negras del motor?. Gracias
18,98€ | For BMW F850GS F900R F900XR F 850 GS F750GS ADV Adventure F 900 Motorcycles Engine Cylinder Cover Head Protection Clutch Guards
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Whats the engine oil capasity
@@sercanylmaz288 3 litres with the filter. 2.8 intermediate oil change
@@motechRevolution thanks a lot
en faisant votre vidange vous meme vous ne perdez pas la garantie constructeur ?
J'ai eu la révision officielle à 1000km, la vidange que j'ai faite à 1500km sert uniquement à changer la viscosité à 20w 50 pour l'été. La prochaine vidange d'huile officielle est dans 12 mois ou 10 000 kms
@@motechRevolution ok.Pour les réhausses de guidon vous avez serré les ecrous a quelle force? Avec une clé dynamometrique ?
Boa moto 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
a la fin de la video le bruit de la moto a changé on dirait non ?
It's definitely different, I took it for a ride today, and it's running cooler.
Hi, there are 2 plugs. You get to the second one after removing the first. It is deeper inside and you need a hex key. You can see it with a mirror. Also I think you should reupload this video because it is black after 20min.
Thanks for the info, I've just watched a BMW video and yes there is a second 5mm hex bolt in the internal oil pan, no foul this time as the bike had only covered 500km since the last change. I hold my hands up guys, you live and learn. 😉
Yes you have 2 plugs. The total amount of oil is 3 liters, 3.2 changing filter
Could, you , please explain, how do you check level of engine oil? I am asking, d/t on the cold engine there is no level at all , but after ride oil level showing above minimum.
i didn't know bike sales were so strong in europe i think the weather and the cost of living crisis is affecting us , brexit , leaving aside how you voted was forecast to drop are GDP by 5% people here are struggling to keep their heads above water and the biking demographics well were getting older ,last saturday june 1st i test rode a voge dsx525 but found the leg room very cramped i am 182 cms is the 900 seat height similar to the 825cms on the 525 ?
oui c'est pareil
The 900 is a much taller bike. It has a very scalloped seat taking it to 825, that said Voge are bringing out taller seats and the bike would seat would easily go up to 925 without altering the aesthetics of the bike. Voge have said they will bring out different seat options. The cost of living has shot up here in Spain, but nowhere to the extent of the UK. For example main dealership service for a motorcycle is €37 an hour labour, you are looking at around £100 in the UK that's at least 3 times more. So I guess you are right, people in the UK don't have the same disposable income anymore, especially for motorcycles, which slot into the hobby/leasure category in the UK as opposed to transport. Thanks for your comments, ride safe, ✌️
You are in Mediterranian weather, why are you putting that useless 20W50 which will make you lose horse power and more fuel consumption ??? Owners manual says 10W40 dude...
The dealership put in 5w 50. But we have 30c to 42c during the summer, the manual says 20w 50. Especially riding over 40c
@@motechRevolution Seems like you don´t know how oil graduations works. 5w50 was fine, 20w50 is to much viscosity and useless in cold/start, engine wear will start in your engine, less horse power, more fuel consumption... 20w50 is for air cooled engines with BIG INTERNAL TOLERANCES.
5w 50 and 20w 50 are the same when warm both 50, no cold starts as it were at the moment. It was just an experiment no need to get strompy off course I know how oil viscosity works.
@@motechRevolution Your bike your money, do whatever you want and good luck outing oils that your engine don´t need.
Owner manual says 5w40
Este motor lleva una especie de doble carter , después de quitar el tornillo principal si te fijas hay otro tornillo por dentro más arriba , creo que solo quitaste uno , se te debió quedar casi medio litro de aceite viejo dentro del motor
ruclips.net/video/o_s5_frzMK8/видео.htmlsi=u_UUWU142iTomuG9
Gracias, sí, ahora lo sé. en el DSX, es necesario retirar la placa protectora para acceder al segundo tapón de drenaje. No me preocupa demasiado el aceite restante en este cambio de aceite porque solo se han realizado 500 km desde el servicio de 1000 km. El cambio de aceite fue para probar con una viscosidad más alta. Al menos ahora lo sé para futuros cambios de aceite entre los principales servicios de los concesionarios. gracias por comentar.
@@motechRevolution hola. Pero no mezclaste viscosidades del aceite ? No sé si será un problema .
After 21 minutes the video is black
exactly 👀
It does say in the title it’s not 2 hours long. For some reason it rendered like that, I will edit it today in RUclips studio. I didn’t have time yesterday 🤪
I've liked all of your videos, almost ready to go and buy it, the dealer is 50 meters from my house......🫢
I just wanted to ask you please a question.
Every how many Km you have to change the oil?
Every how many Km you have to do the service?
Here in France the price is almost 11000 euro for the motorbike.
Prices here in France generally are just ridiculous.
Plus Voge France gives 3 years of waranty and not 5 like in Spain.
I am asking about the service because prices as i told you are rediculous, last time i gave my bike for a full service i payed 24 euros per liter the oil!🤣
4x24=96 euros ONLY the oil which i found later on the internet the same 9,50🤣🤣🤣
If i do the oil change by myself i am gonna lose the waranty, yes?
Also I want to thank you for you time for sharing all the infos.
Great job!👌❤️
Hi thanks for the comments. The first service is at 1000km after that it is every 10000km. Although I plan to do an interim oil change at 5000km. My first service cost was €164 at the main dealership.