As people have commented not having the car serviced will invalidate the warranty. More importantly on my Kona ev the fourth year service is VERY EXPENSIVE at over £800. Apparently the coolant needs changing and is expensive. I have never seen this mentioned elsewhere, and it is something that people should be made aware of. I was very put out when I found out. So much for inexpensive servicing.
@@tonyshipton8896 I drive a 2019 Tesla model 3 and I will have the brakes lubricated every year i.e serviced because when I need them to work then I want them to work.
Please keep releasing vids like these instead of live streams. Are all 50 kwh Zoes going to have CCS or do you need to look for something else on the listing.
No way of knowing other than asking to see the charge port , or if the listing states '50kW' ( max charge speed) as well as 50kWh ( battery size) , then 50kW means the max charge speed on DC so it 'should' have CCS , but always best to check the port 😉
ZE50 without CCS has a blanking plate with two ‘+’ symbols embossed on it where the pins underneath would be. The CCS equipped cars have a plain flap. Helps if you get a pic of the charge port with the CCS flap closed.
I enjoy the livestream videos too, but perhaps a summary of what is available at auction houses is a good compromise. I'm particularly interested in the lower end of the market as there are so few videos about "bargain" or good value used EVs compared to news about the latest £30k+ new offerings. This is probably the busiest end of the used market right now too..
My 2018 41kWh Zoe does 200+ miles on a full charge, even in winter (4.8-5+mpkwh). 157 for the 50kWh battery doesn’t sound too good - perhaps the AC refrigerant needs topping up, or there’s a leak somewhere?
Why can't you tow a trailer? I have a towbar on my i30. I have a bike carrier that clips onto it. I also have a 350kg capacity trailer, and I've also used the towbar to recover other vehicles that are stuck.
@@JonathanPorterfield No towbar should be fitted to a car unless it is type-approved and attaches to fixings in the chassis that the manufacturer has provided for that purpose. My understanding is that if a car has no towing capacity then it doesn't have those fixing points and no-one will make a towbar for it. I'm thinking of vehicles like the Ford Ka, and some variants of Nissan Micra.
It's possible to tow with the Zoe - up to 750 kg - but only cars registered in Germany. I know of a man who imported his car to Norway from Germany and fitted his towbar before registered in Norway and that car was officially registered with towbar. He even bought a Twizy in Budapest and took the Twizy home with the Zoe!
Range estimation in the Leaf is also a work of fiction. I prefer to know how many KWh I have left, then just multiply by 3 to get the minimum remaining!
Nice extras …. Very few have the heated seats and steering wheels. A bonus the tow bar for a bike rack Been watching the dealers near me and they’ve all ( rapid charge Zoe’s) gone up 1k since Christmas ?
GT Line+ has heated seats and steering wheel but GT Line models needed to be specced with the winter pack to get it. Very few GT lines were because most ZE50s were bought in bulk by car rental and subscription companies like the now defunct Onto.
There are some cracking SH deals on EVs at the moment. My Zoe had lost battery capacity but I have managed to get the range up from 160 miles using eco mode and B mode now an easy 195 give or take a mile or 2 using normal mode and very little B mode. By a deep discharge of the battery
Nope ! Service is a check over, if the battery or electronics fail , non replacement of the cabin air filter or top up screen wash , will have no relevance at all !
@@jimrandall1739some manufacturers insist that cars are serviced at the recommended intervals to meet warranty requirements. Does not have to be with a main dealer though.
My ZOE 135 came with a DSL granny cable in a zip carry bag. The instructions are in French which makes me suspicious that it came with the car. Just saying.
Additionally, all ONTO Zoes were supplied to subscribers with a granny cable, so if your Zoe originated from there, the granny cable may have stayed with it.
Would it run on some sort of smelly liquid I need to specifically go out and buy? Or would it refill overnight like my phone? Does it shake and make noise in use? Price is just one factor when choosing a product, it is not always the most important.
Great share! I would never buy a car without side-airbags, even my cheap 11 year old Toyota Aygo have them. I find it hard to believe that Renault could do this to the ZOE, side-airbags are not that expensive and they already use them in other cars - with great success.
all car dealers businesses should share their profits with the public like China, capitalism greed is barbaric, communism is human kindness , look at what capitalism has done to this country
Agree about transparency in pricing - but re the political comment unfortunately /w communism there are zero checks and balances so the greedy and powerful can take what they want when they want and moreover ZERO transparency
Keep away from the Zoe, any car scoring Zero in Crash tests is not good! Especially as Renault are so proud of their previous high scores! I think the failure was side impact, ouch!
Im happy to drive mine, as crash protection is still good compared to cars of 10 , 20 years ago. Yes the NCAP rules are tougher, but drivers still have the same type of accidents that have been around for decade's. This doesn't mean the Zoe is now a 'deathtrap' , but like i always say , we all have choices.
@tonyshipton8896 I hope you don't feel invincible in a brand new 5*, it's no guarantee and ... in 5 to 10 years if it was retested it would end up with 0 or 1 stars. That's the way it works.
I would not hesitate to use you when i buy my next EV. Keep up the good work
Thanks John 👍 😊
As people have commented not having the car serviced will invalidate the warranty. More importantly on my Kona ev the fourth year service is VERY EXPENSIVE at over £800. Apparently the coolant needs changing and is expensive. I have never seen this mentioned elsewhere, and it is something that people should be made aware of. I was very put out when I found out. So much for inexpensive servicing.
Use a HEVRA garage instead , they wont fleece you and google 'block exemption' re servicing new cars etc
Not with Tesla, mine is 8 years old, never been near service, warranty was upheld..
@@tonyshipton8896 I drive a 2019 Tesla model 3 and I will have the brakes lubricated every year i.e serviced because when I need them to work then I want them to work.
Try claiming on the battery warranty if you don't have service history including the important AC check.
Please keep releasing vids like these instead of live streams. Are all 50 kwh Zoes going to have CCS or do you need to look for something else on the listing.
Not all ze50’s have CCS. It comes as an option. Check before you buy.
No way of knowing other than asking to see the charge port , or if the listing states '50kW' ( max charge speed) as well as 50kWh ( battery size) , then 50kW means the max charge speed on DC so it 'should' have CCS , but always best to check the port 😉
ZE50 without CCS has a blanking plate with two ‘+’ symbols embossed on it where the pins underneath would be. The CCS equipped cars have a plain flap. Helps if you get a pic of the charge port with the CCS flap closed.
I enjoy the livestream videos too, but perhaps a summary of what is available at auction houses is a good compromise. I'm particularly interested in the lower end of the market as there are so few videos about "bargain" or good value used EVs compared to news about the latest £30k+ new offerings. This is probably the busiest end of the used market right now too..
@decimal1815 cheaper evs at an auction tomorrow from 10am , ill put a summary video together
My 2018 41kWh Zoe does 200+ miles on a full charge, even in winter (4.8-5+mpkwh). 157 for the 50kWh battery doesn’t sound too good - perhaps the AC refrigerant needs topping up, or there’s a leak somewhere?
5 miles per kWh in winter , wow , is your max speed 20mph ??
But never ever BUY the ZE52 that car is without side airbags.. also the only Zoe with 1 out of 5 stars in NCAP..
Why can't you tow a trailer? I have a towbar on my i30. I have a bike carrier that clips onto it. I also have a 350kg capacity trailer, and I've also used the towbar to recover other vehicles that are stuck.
'Officially' you cant , I have to be carefull what i say 😉
@@JonathanPorterfield No towbar should be fitted to a car unless it is type-approved and attaches to fixings in the chassis that the manufacturer has provided for that purpose. My understanding is that if a car has no towing capacity then it doesn't have those fixing points and no-one will make a towbar for it. I'm thinking of vehicles like the Ford Ka, and some variants of Nissan Micra.
It's possible to tow with the Zoe - up to 750 kg - but only cars registered in Germany. I know of a man who imported his car to Norway from Germany and fitted his towbar before registered in Norway and that car was officially registered with towbar. He even bought a Twizy in Budapest and took the Twizy home with the Zoe!
@@bennygustafsson9580 That seems contrary to having harmonised EU standards.
Looks a bargain if your mileage usage profile fits. I suppose where you are it is very suitable, unless you make regular ferry crossings.
My Corsa E shows 180 miles at 80% but it's a big fat lier. 🤓
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Same as Vivaro E ,then.
Range estimation in the Leaf is also a work of fiction. I prefer to know how many KWh I have left, then just multiply by 3 to get the minimum remaining!
My e208 is like that too, only when I get below 50% that it is more accurate regardless of conditions
@@decimal1815good idea 👍
Trucked up to Aberdeen docks? Ah come on Jonathan, you missed the chance to film another EV adventure... 😂
Im retired !
Top work crew. And Mr.P
Thanks 👍
Nice extras …. Very few have the heated seats and steering wheels. A bonus the tow bar for a bike rack Been watching the dealers near me and they’ve all ( rapid charge Zoe’s) gone up 1k since Christmas ?
GT Line+ has heated seats and steering wheel but GT Line models needed to be specced with the winter pack to get it. Very few GT lines were because most ZE50s were bought in bulk by car rental and subscription companies like the now defunct Onto.
There are some cracking SH deals on EVs at the moment.
My Zoe had lost battery capacity but I have managed to get the range up from 160 miles using eco mode and B mode now an easy 195 give or take a mile or 2 using normal mode and very little B mode. By a deep discharge of the battery
Is the service history essential for the warrantee?
Nope ! Service is a check over, if the battery or electronics fail , non replacement of the cabin air filter or top up screen wash , will have no relevance at all !
Thanks Jonathan. I wondered why car dealer were advertising cars with incomplete service history with remaining warrantees. @@JonathanPorterfield
@@jimrandall1739some manufacturers insist that cars are serviced at the recommended intervals to meet warranty requirements. Does not have to be with a main dealer though.
Cheers John
Thanks for watching 👀 🙂
My ZOE 135 came with a DSL granny cable in a zip carry bag. The instructions are in French which makes me suspicious that it came with the car. Just saying.
Renault kept changing their minds on when a 'granny cable' was included in Zoe , every 6 months or so it would change !
Additionally, all ONTO Zoes were supplied to subscribers with a granny cable, so if your Zoe originated from there, the granny cable may have stayed with it.
Cowboy car traders ripping you off again
Which is why we show all the costs and we are totally transparent!
Is the 5 Year manufacturers warranty still valid without service history?
Yes !
No
Did this include the battery or is it on loan?
ALL ZE 50 Renault Zoe are OWNED battries since this facelifted Zoe was launched in 2020.
Renault no longer offers leased battries !
I’m sorry for that price I can buy a car that will do far more miles on a full tank and it would be cheaper to buy
Choice, we all have a choice 👍👍
But not cheaper to run.
@@hughmarcus1 as you could buy it cheaper then it would cost less even with the yearly maintenance that every car requires including electric cars
@@bmwman19818 Years in my Telsa, no services, changed the wiper blades, cabin filter and tyres and Warranty was upheld
Would it run on some sort of smelly liquid I need to specifically go out and buy? Or would it refill overnight like my phone? Does it shake and make noise in use?
Price is just one factor when choosing a product, it is not always the most important.
Come on mate..... Use a microphone!! The sound quality is dreadful....
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Great share!
I would never buy a car without side-airbags, even my cheap 11 year old Toyota Aygo have them. I find it hard to believe that Renault could do this to the ZOE, side-airbags are not that expensive and they already use them in other cars - with great success.
all car dealers businesses should share their profits with the public like China, capitalism greed is barbaric, communism is human kindness , look at what capitalism has done to this country
Agree about transparency in pricing - but re the political comment unfortunately /w communism there are zero checks and balances so the greedy and powerful can take what they want when they want and moreover ZERO transparency
@@Worfediathen we must create communism within families
Keep away from the Zoe, any car scoring Zero in Crash tests is not good! Especially as Renault are so proud of their previous high scores! I think the failure was side impact, ouch!
Im happy to drive mine, as crash protection is still good compared to cars of 10 , 20 years ago.
Yes the NCAP rules are tougher, but drivers still have the same type of accidents that have been around for decade's.
This doesn't mean the Zoe is now a 'deathtrap' , but like i always say , we all have choices.
@@JonathanPorterfield I sincerely hope that statement does not come back to bite you🤞🤞
@tonyshipton8896 I hope you don't feel invincible in a brand new 5*, it's no guarantee and ... in 5 to 10 years if it was retested it would end up with 0 or 1 stars. That's the way it works.
The Renault Zoe's electronic systems, like lane monitoring or less than 20 mph automatic city stop, were never updated.
Go find another window to lick🥱