Hey Tim. I have been watching your videos for the past couple years and have learned so much from you and Sean. I just want to say thank you for everything you guys do. I am a little introverted by nature and I have never commented on any RUclips video until about 5 minutes ago where I left a comment for another DIY mechanic. I don't have any other social media accounts either so I just don't really ever comment on much of anything but it's past time that I thank you guys because you are my go-to for sure! I actually just finished the ARB install on my 97 4Runner SR5 5-speed manual with the 3.4. I also have a 2000 Tacoma 3.4 5-speed extra cab. The amount of work I have done on these myself is all thanks to you guys. I live up in Washington state but my 4Runner was actually a California rig that got shipped up here and I snagged it off a guy who's 16 year old daughter didn't want to learn how to drive a stick LOL. Super clean frame body and interior but mechanically and suspension wise was just a mess . It has been a real Joy seeing it come back to life and the satisfaction of doing it myself. Anyway thanks again and you guys kick ass!
Great to hear our videos have helped you out with your two rigs. We appreciate you taking the time to comment. It's people like you who keep us motivated to continue making videos. You're very welcome. Happy Wrenching!
Pretty nice of you to remove your own bumper just to show us the proper way to do it. Your other video was a great help when I replaced all my belts on my 3rd Gen 4Runner. Had to watch it a few times but I got the job done. I also liked the potential problem of the proud welds at 25:20, thanks for pointing out that possibility.
Glad you appreciate the work we put in to make sure our audience has everything they need to succeed with a job. We NEVER want people to be lost using our videos as a tutorial to perform a job. We're not perfect, but we usually do a comprehensive enough job for people to succeed. Thanks for the comment. We appreciate it!
Hi guys, great video but one small noticeable mistake. When talking about the long vertical bolts (with the sleeve) which run through the frame rails from top to bottom you said to drill the new hole in the bottom of the frame rail the same diameter as the shank of the bolt. The hole should instead be the same diameter as the outside diameter of the sleeve which slides over the bolt. This will allow the sleeve end to sit flush with the outside (bottom) of the frame rail. If the bottom hole is only drilled to the diameter of the bolt the sleeve will sit on the inner (bottom) surface of the frame rail and the top of the sleeve will protrude out of the top of the frame rail by approximately 1/8" - 1/4" when everything is tightened up. The sleeve is there to prevent the frame rail collapsing when the bolt and nut are tightened, the sleeve ends should sit flush with the top and bottom surfaces of the rail. Thanks for the video, very well made with detailed explanations. Greetings from Dublin Ireland.
I knew I was spelling it wrong LOL!!! THRS LIKE 3 WAYS to spell Sean. Thts great news to hear, keep em coming guys. Props to Sean, man...seriously he does great on the angles and shots w that camera, and the quality is great!!! Many times the angle makes all the difference in the world!
Israel Rodriguez Yeah, Sean is really good with the camera and with the editing. I do the rough edits and then Sean polishes it up and makes the videos Wayyyy better.
So I just finished up an ARB install on my 2000. As always, Tim your video was super helpful especially since the ARB instructions are a joke. I don't live in Timmy's rust free paradise so bumper removal was not as simple as your video. I think the whole job took about six hours and it looks great. In hindsight, I think if you are real careful you cut the excess off the end caps but actually leave the plate covering the end of the frame rails so it is enclosed and a bit stronger. I didn't do it that way but I think it could be done. Another successful T4R project thanks to Tim.
Yeah, dealing with rust is a bummer and I know how lucky we are to not have to deal with it. As for the plates on the ends of the frame rails, I think you need to remove them for proper fitment of the bumper. But, some people put a plate on the inside of the frame rail ends and then weld them in place for extra reinforcement especially for those that plan on using a winch. The plates reinforce the frame rails but don't stick out to hinder proper fitment of the bumper. Glad our video helped you get the job done. Happy Wrenching!
@@TimmyTheToolman Hi guys, again, just absolutely awesome videos, thank you - I continue to benefit so much from all of your hard work! Just confirming, on this topic of the end cap mod: if you plan to use the bumper for winching, does that front welded plate need to have a frontal threaded hole for attachment, or are the other bolts adequate and covering it is really just for strengthening the integrity of the open frame rail? Correct me if this is wrong, but it looks and sounds from your video as if you are using EITHER the vertical bolt (the one perpendicular to the ground) OR a frontal bolt (parallel to the ground, going in from front), given the limited clearance in there?... Thanks again!
@@kaicarpenter240 You just welding in an internal plate that caps off the frame rails but doesn't end up extending the frame rails if that makes sense. I don't think a bolt coming in from the front is necessary.
@@TimmyTheToolman Great, thanks for the fast reply! And that makes sense; seeing all the other bolts securing from other angles, it does seem like that front bolt hole isn't strictly necessary once the end is solidly capped off.
There isn’t room on the backside of the front bolt because the bolt going vertical (drilled the hole for) is behind that cap. I just did this mount and I cut bracket so the cap remained and the frame rails remained shut. Should be the strongest compared to opening it up.
I am picking my arb 3423040 bumper for my 2002 4runner tomorrow morning. Thank you for making this video. I will definitely use this video as a guide tomorrow.
Timmy The Toolman got the bumper installed. It was a booger bear and I have a lot of bolts left over I guess they were for the Tacoma. I was able to grind the end caps of my frame rail flush so I wouldn't have an empty hole. Thanks for this video it really helped out
Hey Blake, good job getting it done. We also had an incredible amount of fasteners left over. I think you are right that they are for the Tacoma application. Glad our video helped you out.
Great video. Just did this on my 2000 Tacoma, steps were the same aside from the frame horns, which changed designs frequently on the tacomas(so be weary of what mounting kit you have). I did not have to do any cutting, however on this year design you are not able to use the splash guard or skid plate mount, no frame extensions needed. I was able to get the bumper aligned pretty fast by myself using a bottle jack on top of a floor jack that I used to move the bumper upwards in order to align it how I wanted and get the 6 bolts in. Highly recommend if you are installing the winch at the same time like I did, it makes it much easier because both units weigh 150~lb together.
This guys level of showing things is like History Chanel version (very detailed and with passion.) I appreciate your time and taking your own trucks number just to show us.
On my 2000 4Runner I noticed excessive corrosion on the inside portions of the front and back bumpers. Not sure if it was due to manufacturing problem or my climate. Removed both bumpers and rust proofed them. Enjoyed your great work brother Tim!!
jake ounce If you live in rusty areas you will want to take extra care in taking the necessary precautions to detect rust & prevent it. Thanks for the comment and Happy New Year Brother Jake!
I noticed the same thing (rust) on the inside of my stock front bumper. Mine's a California car, so no salt and not much continuous rain at all. I think they skimp on the plating on the inside.
Timmy and Sean, Triple A+ for the great videos. You guys make owning a 3rd Gen 4runner more fun and exciting. The boost of confidence I get from your vids has furthered my wrenching skills immensely! I am looking for a stock bumper just like Timmy's. Anyone around have one to sell? Ciao
Today! I am soo with you on soo many areas!! Particularly in the area of tools. I would not call myself a Addict but, I'm am Most Differently into tools. Nothing like the Right Tool to get the Job DONE!!! Thanks Again For Caring And Sharing!!!!
Yeah, I would say I have a Tool Addiction, but it's a good addiction to have. Having the right tool for the job makes a huge difference. And, like I always tell people, tools are an investment that pays big dividends. Thanks for the comment.
Good video Tim. Have a 97 4runner limited. Just finished installing bilstein 5100s w/tundra and ome springs, went through Wheelers. Like you I was looking for a 2" lift to avoid tire rub caused by larger tires. I also bought the same ARB bumper in this video and agree the instructions are sketchy at best. I'll let you know how the install works out.
Great video guys, I learned a lot today watching it. My wife and I bought tthe only 3rd gen T4R in Europe this week and are searching te web for mods like a nice winchbumper. Keep on going with these great T4R tutorials, thumbs up!
drs Jelmer J. Visser thanks for your comment dude! This is awesome to hear. It’s amazing how people from all over the world have watched our stuff. We truly want to help the Toyota community world wide to provide beginner tutorials and step by step how-to’s for people trying to do some Sicmods! Keep us updated on your progress and comment on our other videos! Cheers!
First of all THANK YOU! i was able to complete my bumper installation following your video, Here are some details I did different that may help someone doing this same install: 1. When trimming the OEM bumper base, I did not cut the welds, but grinded the plate enough for it to stay at the base, providing that extra support for winch operations, keeping it close to weather, and you wont have to weld an additional plate. 2. USE A LIFT to set your arb bumper into the correct height. This way you can be really accurate, and avoid having a buddy standing there trying to keep it at the same height. 3. Use oil when drilling your holes in the bit and in the hole itself, it helps immensely. Thanks again!
Our goal is to educate people so they're comfortable doing their own automotive maintenance, repair and modifications. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Hold on hold on HOLD ON ............Timmy and Shaun I've been watching pretty much all of your videos and I am just noticing what looks like a Fat Cat or a TW over on the right side of the garage. Break that thing out!!!!!!!!!!!! What a gem!!!!!!!!
Timmy The Toolman man how cool is that! Funny story, a Yamaha big wheel 200 is the first full size motorcycle I ever rode. Up in West Virginia, rode it all the way down some big hill never got out of first gear hahah. Got to the bottom and fell right over, I was too short to hardly reach the foot pegs. Cool bike! Motorcycles is mainly what my channel is based on. I love ‘em. Your 4Runner videos have helped me a ton and are super enjoyable to watch. Keep it up! Entertainment is a huge part of this whole thing. Take care, and get that thing out and ride it!!!
@@TheChapMX That's cool that was the first full-size motorcycle you ever rode. I bought it to do volunteer trail work. It was a way to get out on a remote section of trail rather than walk in. I also use it to ride a trail system with a chain saw cutting out down trees across the trails. I have a cabin share in this old gold mining town called Forest City close to Downieville. There's a 35 miles trail system that I help take of. It's hard labor but I love being out in the woods doing physical work.
@@TimmyTheToolman That's awesome! And a perfect use for that bike. What kind of trails? Mtn bike or dirt bike trails? Pretty jealous of that to be close to you like that. That sounds like a sweet deal. I am right there with you, I have a ton of woods behind my house and I really enjoy cutting trail back there. Solid sweat makes you feel good.
I recently installed a Savage Off Road Hybrid (plate and tube) front winch bumper on my 2000 4 Runner. SOR's instructions were to trim those front frame plates just like you did (edit added. I see you did remove the whole plate. Didn't have to do that for the SOR). No question about trying to cut the welds and remove the whole plate. I wouldn't even consider that. BTW, nice job for a first timer on the angle grinder. FWIW, from experience, I recommend full face protection when using the AG. Some even say safety glasses + full face protection + breathing protection. Not a bad idea. The cutting disks are reinforced with fiberglass. That and the grinding stone turn to fine powder that hangs in the air.
Thanks for the safety tips. I was getting some hot grindings hitting me but I was covered up pretty good. I would have never thought about breathing protection though. Good to know.
Good job Timmah Claus!!! Got to take care of your cinematography ELF!!! LIL winch under the xmas tree is pure class sir!! And on a personal note I'm sooo sooo glad you are back up doing video's. Got a lil worried with all the fires going on in cali.Figure you may have been rotated down there or just busy takin on extra shifts in nor cal. Glad your safe brotha :) And as always great job you guys!!
Thanks my 3rd Gen Brother! We appreciate your kind words. Yep, got to take care of my buddy Sean. He works hard on the videos and I wanted to get him something really nice for Christmas. I was in Ventura for 2 weeks in December. Came home a week before Christmas. That's why we hadn't got a video out for a while. We're back on the video train again. Our second year anniversary is coming up on Feb 23rd. We're hoping we reach 5000 subscribers by then. It's been cool seeing our channel grow and rewarding to hear from so many people that our videos have helped them out. Happy New Year! And as always, Happy Wrenching!
Great video! I am getting ready to install and document the Land Cruiser 100 series version of this bumper. The ARB instructions are not very good and this is extremely helpful! Thanks!
Good job Timmy I also did this job about 3 months ago it was a great pain in the a** couldn't get the bumper to lineup properly you made a look easy. And the arb Instructions suck Good video..
Hey Gilbert, don't be fooled by the video length. We also struggled to get the bumper to line up. The hardest part was getting the bumper to fit between the two brackets. When we struggle, we cut out a lot of it because it would make the video too long to watch. But, after the struggle, we always share what gave us success so hopefully somebody following our video has an easier time. The pry bar on the brackets to spread them out a little was the trick to finally getting the bumper to fit between the brackets. Happy Wrenching!
Added this elsewhere. But use the 4RNR bottle Jack + a 4x4 post to pry those brisket open wider. Worked really easily. So much so I had to do it twice when I used the wrong bolts & snap-in nuts. Oops…..
Hey Steve, glad you like the video. I think the hardest thing about installing an aftermarket bumper is figuring out which one you want to buy. There's so many choices for us 3rd Gen owners.
Thanks Minh. We didn't really pull his rig out of my garage to get a better shot of what it looks like with the new bumper. We are planning on installing the winch in the near future so we'll get a better shot of it when we get do that.
It's actually Sean, and don't worry Israel, the Timmy the Toolman train isn't going to slow down anytime soon. We're gonna keep cranking out the videos.
It probably needs a ton of work but we don't necessarily need our own rigs to work on. There's lots of people in the 3rd Gen Community in our area to help out with projects and make new videos with. I don't know how many complete strangers rigs we've worked on, but it's quite a few. The cool thing is a decent percentage of these guys are now friends of ours. It's a cool community of Toyota enthusiasts.
Could just heavily score the metal and the use a adjustable wrench and bend the metal back and forth till it snaps off. If you use a angle grinder a lot it will save some time and disks. Once you get into one weld, you can use a hammer and chisel to put some stress in to the welds and the would start to pop. If not rinse and repeat and it will come off. And since you’re using a cordless it will save on battery charge. Cordless angle grinders are great for small jobs, but won’t last long for big projects.
Your videos are great, pure gold for a 3rd gen owner. Many thanks! Would it be possible to make any modifications to accommodate for a 1" body lift? I only ask because you have another video of a body lift install, and I believe it's on the same truck. I can't imagine any way to compensate and avoid a gap between the bumper and the grill.
Hey Ben, glad you like our videos. You're welcome. You can alter the bumper mounts to accommodate for the body lift. You basically have to drill different holes so the bumper sits higher and tighter to the body.
Satish Kumar Thanks for the offer Satish. The best way you can show your appreciation is Pay It Forward to someone else. Sean and I started this channel to help people. Use the knowledge you gained from our channel to help somebody esle out with their 3rd Gen 4runner or other vehicle. Our payment is hearing back from people just like you that are putting out videos to good use. Happy Wrenching Brother!
Satish Kumar I got mine on eBay. That is probably the best way to find a decent price for an actual hard copy. Sean found a 2002 FSM online so he has a digital copy. I like having a tangible copy I can make notes in.
Great work Timmy. I am contemplating on installing an ARB after my 3rd gen got a parking lot hit and run on the grill guard (crash bar). The problem that I am worried about is the weight of an ARB. I installed a bull bar (Japanese) to a Hilux LN 106 4x4 and soon after that, I cannot pickup from stop on the 2nd gear on a flat paved road. I have to give more throttle or use 1st gear always. After removing the bullbar, I could pickup from a stop with 2nd gear on idle. This is why I am still wondering what to do. We all know 3rd Gen runners (hulix surf or Prado 90 with 5vzfe ) are bad with MPG so with added weight, it is be worst.
Jan pur Adding weight to your rig is going to slow you down and hurt your gas mileage. That's one of the down sides of adding aftermarket bumpers, skids, winch, rock rails, etc. Cool modifications come at a price.
Thanks for all the great videos! Having trouble tracking down replacement bolts to actually reattach my bumper reinforcement to the frame end caps, but all bolts and welded -on nuts are stripped! Help!
Colt Wilkins Hey Colt, great job recognizing the Yamaha Big Wheel. Most people probably don't even know what it is. I bought it to do volunteer trail work. I strap a chainsaw on the back and go out sawing out down trees for a day. I also used it as transportation to where we're building trail. I haven't been part of a trail build in a few years but I do still do trail maintenance.
Minh Bui Glad the video helped you out Minh. Yeah, the amount of hardware they include is a little intimidating. Just like you, we had tons of extra fasteners.
This bumper weighs approximately ~150lbs. If you add a winch you're adding another 70-80lbs. This is a good reason to go with 650lb springs for your front coilover struts and not the typical 600lb coils.
If anyone is planning a smitty winch (smitty 9500 steel cable) for this bumper, you can use the bolts that ARB provides but i've found they strip rather easily against the winch square nuts. I ended up using the winch supplied bolts. The only problem is, you can't use the lock washer the winch bolts came with since the bolts are too short! Helps to have a pen style magnet to keep the nuts in place while you line it up with the holes/bolt.
I hope you’re still checking these comments, I did this install and I thought I wired my blinkers right but I keep popping turn signal fuses and the turn signals, hazards and horn don’t work now. Please help!!
You have a 2nd Generation Tacoma. This video might give you an idea of how to install a bumper on your 2012 Tacoma but I would suggest you look for a video or write-up that involves installing a bumper on a 2nd Gen Tacoma.
Love the video! Got mine installed on my 2008 4runner. The issue I have is that can't hardly get my hand into the bumper well enough to open the hood. Do you recommend just opening it up with a grinder?
I guess you could do a little grinding to give you more access but it depends if that will bother you due to how it will look. If you're not super concerned about the looks, I'd probably do a little griding to improve your access to the hood latch.
I use all your vids for my 4Runner, you guys are great and I appreciate all the hard work!! I was wondering if there is anyway to fit an ARB bumper with a 2inch body lift. I cannot have the 2inch space between the bumper and body, it’s horrid lol.
The bumper will fit fine but you’ll have a gap between the bumper and body. Sean has a 1.5” body lift on his 2002 & to address the hideous gap between the bumper & the body he took off the mounting brackets, cut them, & re-welded them 1.5” higher. It looks perfect now
I recently hit a deer going 55 with an ARB bumper on the front of my Tacoma. It pushed back approximately 2 to 3 in slightly dented the hood and barely wrinkled the quarter panel. I haven't taken it off yet but my guess is the brackets are bent
@@TimmyTheToolman I emailed ARB to see if they sell the bracket separately. I hope they do otherwise I have to buy a whole new bumper. Or Fab up some brackets
Tim, I have a 5th gen 4Runner (‘23 actually). When installing a bigger front suspension, the sway bar had to be moved forward. The nut that was welded inside the frame started free spinning. Found out it happens. So what’s your advice on solving this? I prefer a minimalist solution, no welding, no cutting frame parts. Can a rivet nut work?
Tim, Is the bumper that you removed from your rig considered the "fat lip" bumper? Thanks again for all the videos. I enjoy them a ton and they've saved me tons of money!
Thank you! I pulled the rear bumper off my 02 and painted it. It came off easily. I've wanted to pull the front to paint as well, but I thought it would be much more complicated. Apparently not! Thanks again for the videos!
Do all 4Runner/Tacoma/tundra have the two forward facing plates welded to the ends of the frame channels? There’s no way to reach into the cavity of the frame from the front without cutting them off?
There's some slight differences with the frame ends. I can't remember which years have what. The frame ends have to come off for the ARB crush cans to be able to slide over the frame rails.
Hey Timmy! Great, helpful video as usual man. Quick question, I've heard this bumper (without winch) weighs around 75lbs. I would be shaving off the weight of the stock bumper on top of that and I was wondering if Bilstein w/ OME 881 front / 906 rear (2" lift - stock weigh ) would be able to handle it or I should go up for 883 (2.5") front and 890 (2.5") rear?
Hey, thanks for the video! After the bumper is installed, will you be able to remove the grill and headlights without taking off the bumper? Thinking about getting nicer headlights after the bumper.. Thanks again!
Vince G you will be able to remove the headlights, but the grill is kind of stuck. The cool thing about removing the headlight, is that will allow you room to sneak the grill out
@@TimmyTheToolman probably because it has skipped off into the never never, to sip Grape Nihi by the beach with every 10mm socket that's even been produced.
hey tim, at 28:16, do you think you need to drill out that hole a bit bigger than 7/16" so the sleeve actually passes through both sides of the frame rail. I think the way you have it now, it only passes through one side (the top) since that hole is larger. Seems like it is supporting the frame/bolt under heavy winching? I might be wrong but i'll check that out when I do mine. Seems like it might be long enough to brace both sides of the frame rail?
Hey Timmy i think the part's name that you don't know the name is the Reinforcement Bar. it is around minute five on the video. I could be wrong but i did some research while i am looking for a bumper.
There will definitely be more sag in the suspension and any extra weight you add to the vehicle will slow you down. The engine will still perform the same but now you're asking for more from it. The more weight you add with heavy aftermarket bumpers, armor, rock rails, etc will slow you down and lower your mpg.
Hello again question I want to get some blistein 5100 for my 2000 4runner what springs do you recommend to go with them .I plan on getting a ARB bumper and I don’t want the front and sagging with the extra weight. I want to lift it up at least 3 inches in the front or better. Where do you guys suggest.Thanks for the great videos I’ve change my fuel injectors and upgraded my front brakes watching your videos great job
You basically want 650 lb rated springs with that bumper. 600 is too soft and 700 is too stiff. The rating is the amount of weight it takes to compress the springs 1 inch. You can pick up the springs or complete coilovers with the Bilstein 5100s already installed from different sellers. You just have to do some online searching.
It might be an issue. Not all bumpers attach the same way. This is one of the things you have to consider when doing modifications... in other words, you will have to weld back on the front plates if you want to attach your stock bumper back to your rig.
I recently got a used arb bumper, just the bumper. Same one as the vid, where would I be able to get the crush cans and the bolts to install it into my 4runner
Hack: to do this alone I used the 4Runner bottlejack & 4x4 post to spread the ‘crush cans’ wider and skip the bumper on. AND…I rest the bumper on a painter’s bench to hold it up there. Note: makes sure to use the correct bolts from kit to mount the bumper. I didn’t and had to drop bumper and switch the nuts/bolt combo. >sigh
@@leeanderson7300 I put the 4x4 post (cut to length) to allow me to screw the Jack taller, thus pushing the frame rails slightly wider. The ‘tightness’ held the two up there. It was a challenge to balance and screw it taller, but I got it done. This make sense?
after the bumper and winch how much of the lift did you lose? I have 883 and feel like stock again after my bumper winch combo. Considering 1" strut spacer to get back up, share your thoughts
We never took measurements so we don't know but Sean got 650lb springs up front to compensate. 700lb springs might even be necessary if your bumper and winch are really heavy
Yep, that was Sean. I do the majority of the responding to questions and comments but Sean does respond sometimes especially when I'm fighting a wildland fire somewhere in California and I don't really have internet access.
The difference will be the end caps that we cut off. ARB provides you with end cap blocks that you secure to the frame rail ends once you take off your stock bumper. That’s basically the difference.
Tim! Hey man so I've been having this bumper on my truck for a while. I had to drill some extra holes in the bumper itself in order to lifted 2" because I have a 2" toytec body lift on my truck. I believe that the bumper came with some 2" spacers but a mad quite sure how to install them. Any advice would be helpful because I'd like to have it installed correctly instead of fabricating some holes.
Stock front suspension will sag a bit from the weight of the ARB bumper and sag even more if you add a winch. We do recommend that you run stiffer springs if you install an aftermarket steel bumper.
The additional weight is going to make the front end sag quite bit. A good thing to do would be to upgrade the front springs to a 650 lb rating. I'm not sure if they even make a replacement spring in the that weight rating for stock height. You might be forced to lift the rig a little. Do some research and see what you find out. I just bought a lift for my 98 rig and with an aftermarket bumper and winch, it was recommended to go with a 650 lb front coil spring. Some people even go with a 700 lb spring but that might be overkill. I can tell you right now my 98 is running very stiff up front with the 650 springs and without the additional weight on the front just yet.
It would be best to replace the front springs for a set that has a 650 lb/inch spring rate. This would be ideal. If you kept the OEM springs, the front end is going to sag from the additional weight of the bumper and winch.
Love your vids! I use them all the time as I work on my 1999 T4R Limited. ?4U... one of the comment replies on AMZ for this bumper indicated "This bumper will also require upgrading your front suspension to handle the weight - 150 lbs+- to maintain decent handling on- or off-road". (1) Did you upgrade your suspension, and (2) if not, have you seen any negative handling/performace with the stock suspension?
Good to hear you're getting good use of our videos. Sean's suspension was already upgraded. The stock springs will sag quite a bit with the extra weight from the bumper. It's better to get springs that match the weight you're carrying.
@@TimmyTheToolman Thanks for the insanely quick response. Makes sense. I am OCD on details, steps, what-ifs, etc. and your videos provide the level of detail and explanation that fits my needs/style. Keep up the good work.
Sorry for the bother, but do you have any recommendations for upgraded front coils to handle the added weight of this ARB bumper (1999 T4R Limited, 3.4L). Thanks.
@@drewross5589 You'd want springs that are rated for 600 lbs. If you plan on adding a winch, get 650 lbs springs. I don't have a recommendation on brand. There's lots to choose from.
Hey Timmy and Sean, thanks so much for all of your amazing work. Used your videos many times to great success! A question about springs - I see some folks have already asked about this bumper going on OME 881s in the front; I've got a 2000 sr5 with 881s in front and 891s in rear, but also running a tent on top, storage in the rear and steel skid plate under the front. Do you think this bumper would be adding a straw too much for the 881s? From what I heard from ARB the 881s are rated for 110-240+ weight but I still hear a lot of folks saying they're for "stock" weight and that 883s are more appropriate for added load. Thoughts on that? Thanks again!
Happy new year!!!!!. I am watching your video. It is awesome as always. While I am not handy, i like to watch your videos. What are you going to do with the bumper you removed. i ask because I would like to keep my truck as original as possible. My 2002 4 Runner bumper is rusted and I'm interested in purchasing an original bumper.
Sean already gave it to a local kid we know that has a 3rd Gen. His name is Jax and he's still in high school. Since Jax has limited funds available, Sean gave him the bumper.
Thank you so much. I hope Jax takes good care of his 3rd gen. If he is interested in selling it have him get in touch with me. Thank you so much!! Oniel
Yes, check out this video where I install a CBI Front Hybrid bumper on my 98 3rd Gen. Go to play time 25 minutes 15 seconds and I walk you through how I did it. ruclips.net/video/cVmoRK54P9k/видео.html
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Timmy is the best. His details is just crystal clear.
Thanks! We appreciate your nice compliment.
Your guys' video has made this install doable since ARB'S instructions are horrible. Thanks so much!
You're very welcome!
Hey Tim. I have been watching your videos for the past couple years and have learned so much from you and Sean. I just want to say thank you for everything you guys do. I am a little introverted by nature and I have never commented on any RUclips video until about 5 minutes ago where I left a comment for another DIY mechanic. I don't have any other social media accounts either so I just don't really ever comment on much of anything but it's past time that I thank you guys because you are my go-to for sure! I actually just finished the ARB install on my 97 4Runner SR5 5-speed manual with the 3.4. I also have a 2000 Tacoma 3.4 5-speed extra cab. The amount of work I have done on these myself is all thanks to you guys. I live up in Washington state but my 4Runner was actually a California rig that got shipped up here and I snagged it off a guy who's 16 year old daughter didn't want to learn how to drive a stick LOL. Super clean frame body and interior but mechanically and suspension wise was just a mess . It has been a real Joy seeing it come back to life and the satisfaction of doing it myself. Anyway thanks again and you guys kick ass!
Great to hear our videos have helped you out with your two rigs. We appreciate you taking the time to comment. It's people like you who keep us motivated to continue making videos. You're very welcome. Happy Wrenching!
Pretty nice of you to remove your own bumper just to show us the proper way to do it. Your other video was a great help when I replaced all my belts on my 3rd Gen 4Runner. Had to watch it a few times but I got the job done. I also liked the potential problem of the proud welds at 25:20, thanks for pointing out that possibility.
Glad you appreciate the work we put in to make sure our audience has everything they need to succeed with a job. We NEVER want people to be lost using our videos as a tutorial to perform a job. We're not perfect, but we usually do a comprehensive enough job for people to succeed. Thanks for the comment. We appreciate it!
Hi guys, great video but one small noticeable mistake. When talking about the long vertical bolts (with the sleeve) which run through the frame rails from top to bottom you said to drill the new hole in the bottom of the frame rail the same diameter as the shank of the bolt. The hole should instead be the same diameter as the outside diameter of the sleeve which slides over the bolt. This will allow the sleeve end to sit flush with the outside (bottom) of the frame rail. If the bottom hole is only drilled to the diameter of the bolt the sleeve will sit on the inner (bottom) surface of the frame rail and the top of the sleeve will protrude out of the top of the frame rail by approximately 1/8" - 1/4" when everything is tightened up. The sleeve is there to prevent the frame rail collapsing when the bolt and nut are tightened, the sleeve ends should sit flush with the top and bottom surfaces of the rail. Thanks for the video, very well made with detailed explanations. Greetings from Dublin Ireland.
Thanks for sharing this.
I knew I was spelling it wrong LOL!!! THRS LIKE 3 WAYS to spell Sean. Thts great news to hear, keep em coming guys. Props to Sean, man...seriously he does great on the angles and shots w that camera, and the quality is great!!! Many times the angle makes all the difference in the world!
Israel Rodriguez Yeah, Sean is really good with the camera and with the editing. I do the rough edits and then Sean polishes it up and makes the videos Wayyyy better.
So I just finished up an ARB install on my 2000. As always, Tim your video was super helpful especially since the ARB instructions are a joke. I don't live in Timmy's rust free paradise so bumper removal was not as simple as your video. I think the whole job took about six hours and it looks great. In hindsight, I think if you are real careful you cut the excess off the end caps but actually leave the plate covering the end of the frame rails so it is enclosed and a bit stronger. I didn't do it that way but I think it could be done. Another successful T4R project thanks to Tim.
Yeah, dealing with rust is a bummer and I know how lucky we are to not have to deal with it. As for the plates on the ends of the frame rails, I think you need to remove them for proper fitment of the bumper. But, some people put a plate on the inside of the frame rail ends and then weld them in place for extra reinforcement especially for those that plan on using a winch. The plates reinforce the frame rails but don't stick out to hinder proper fitment of the bumper. Glad our video helped you get the job done. Happy Wrenching!
@@TimmyTheToolman Hi guys, again, just absolutely awesome videos, thank you - I continue to benefit so much from all of your hard work! Just confirming, on this topic of the end cap mod: if you plan to use the bumper for winching, does that front welded plate need to have a frontal threaded hole for attachment, or are the other bolts adequate and covering it is really just for strengthening the integrity of the open frame rail? Correct me if this is wrong, but it looks and sounds from your video as if you are using EITHER the vertical bolt (the one perpendicular to the ground) OR a frontal bolt (parallel to the ground, going in from front), given the limited clearance in there?... Thanks again!
@@kaicarpenter240 You just welding in an internal plate that caps off the frame rails but doesn't end up extending the frame rails if that makes sense. I don't think a bolt coming in from the front is necessary.
@@TimmyTheToolman Great, thanks for the fast reply! And that makes sense; seeing all the other bolts securing from other angles, it does seem like that front bolt hole isn't strictly necessary once the end is solidly capped off.
There isn’t room on the backside of the front bolt because the bolt going vertical (drilled the hole for) is behind that cap.
I just did this mount and I cut bracket so the cap remained and the frame rails remained shut. Should be the strongest compared to opening it up.
I am picking my arb 3423040 bumper for my 2002 4runner tomorrow morning. Thank you for making this video. I will definitely use this video as a guide tomorrow.
Blake Ferrell awesome please update us with your success or comment on this video if you have questions!
Timmy The Toolman got the bumper installed. It was a booger bear and I have a lot of bolts left over I guess they were for the Tacoma. I was able to grind the end caps of my frame rail flush so I wouldn't have an empty hole. Thanks for this video it really helped out
Hey Blake, good job getting it done. We also had an incredible amount of fasteners left over. I think you are right that they are for the Tacoma application. Glad our video helped you out.
Timmy and Blake, is there a difference between 3423040 and 3423020? They appear to be the same exact bumper online.
Great video. Just did this on my 2000 Tacoma, steps were the same aside from the frame horns, which changed designs frequently on the tacomas(so be weary of what mounting kit you have). I did not have to do any cutting, however on this year design you are not able to use the splash guard or skid plate mount, no frame extensions needed.
I was able to get the bumper aligned pretty fast by myself using a bottle jack on top of a floor jack that I used to move the bumper upwards in order to align it how I wanted and get the 6 bolts in. Highly recommend if you are installing the winch at the same time like I did, it makes it much easier because both units weigh 150~lb together.
@bensambell5862 Thanks and good job with the install. Thanks for the information you shared.
This guys level of showing things is like History Chanel version (very detailed and with passion.) I appreciate your time and taking your own trucks number just to show us.
Thanks for the nice compliment.
On my 2000 4Runner I noticed excessive corrosion on the inside portions of the front and back bumpers. Not sure if it was due to manufacturing problem or my climate. Removed both bumpers and rust proofed them. Enjoyed your great work brother Tim!!
jake ounce If you live in rusty areas you will want to take extra care in taking the necessary precautions to detect rust & prevent it. Thanks for the comment and Happy New Year Brother Jake!
I noticed the same thing (rust) on the inside of my stock front bumper. Mine's a California car, so no salt and not much continuous rain at all. I think they skimp on the plating on the inside.
twwtb Exactly what I had, and I live in KY where they do salt the roads during the Winters, so I agree with you on their manufacturing process.
Here in Norway🇧🇻, I use Fluid Film on my 04 Toyota Pickup. Very good Oil that stops rust. 🐑🐑🐑 Timmy also use Fluid Film in a video😁👍
Timmy and Sean, Triple A+ for the great videos. You guys make owning a 3rd Gen 4runner more fun and exciting. The boost of confidence I get from your vids has furthered my wrenching skills immensely! I am looking for a stock bumper just like Timmy's. Anyone around have one to sell? Ciao
That's awesome Kelly. We love hearing this. Thanks for sharing and Happy Wrenching!
Today! I am soo with you on soo many areas!! Particularly in the area of tools. I would not call myself a Addict but, I'm am Most Differently into tools. Nothing like the Right Tool to get the Job DONE!!! Thanks Again For Caring And Sharing!!!!
Yeah, I would say I have a Tool Addiction, but it's a good addiction to have. Having the right tool for the job makes a huge difference. And, like I always tell people, tools are an investment that pays big dividends. Thanks for the comment.
You guys are awesome! You even undo your work just to show us! Just incredible. Thank you!
Thanks Taly. Glad you appreciate the effort Sean and I put forth to make these videos. You're very welcome and Happy Wrenching Brother!
This was excellent and really helpful. It was easy enough to adapt these instructions to a 1st gen Tacoma. I owe you guys a beer!
Great to hear it helped you with the install on your Tacoma. Happy Wrenching!
Good video Tim. Have a 97 4runner limited. Just finished installing bilstein 5100s w/tundra and ome springs, went through Wheelers. Like you I was looking for a 2" lift to avoid tire rub caused by larger tires. I also bought the same ARB bumper in this video and agree the instructions are sketchy at best. I'll let you know how the install works out.
Good luck with the install, and yes, please let us know how it went and if our video was helpful.
Yeah I just realized the one on the video is a limited lol I just ordered it. Thanks again !
You're welcome.
Great video guys, I learned a lot today watching it. My wife and I bought tthe only 3rd gen T4R in Europe this week and are searching te web for mods like a nice winchbumper.
Keep on going with these great T4R tutorials, thumbs up!
drs Jelmer J. Visser thanks for your comment dude! This is awesome to hear. It’s amazing how people from all over the world have watched our stuff. We truly want to help the Toyota community world wide to provide beginner tutorials and step by step how-to’s for people trying to do some Sicmods! Keep us updated on your progress and comment on our other videos! Cheers!
First of all THANK YOU! i was able to complete my bumper installation following your video, Here are some details I did different that may help someone doing this same install:
1. When trimming the OEM bumper base, I did not cut the welds, but grinded the plate enough for it to stay at the base, providing that extra support for winch operations, keeping it close to weather, and you wont have to weld an additional plate.
2. USE A LIFT to set your arb bumper into the correct height. This way you can be really accurate, and avoid having a buddy standing there trying to keep it at the same height.
3. Use oil when drilling your holes in the bit and in the hole itself, it helps immensely.
Thanks again!
You're welcome and thanks for sharing your methods.
You guys are awesome. If you get this please know that you’ve just gained another subscriber. Keep up the good work!
Hey Curtis, welcome aboard the Timmy the Toolman train. Thanks for letting us know you like what we're doing. Happy Wrenching!
Thank you guys,
I’ve learned a lot just by watching your videos.
Our goal is to educate people so they're comfortable doing their own automotive maintenance, repair and modifications. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Hold on hold on HOLD ON ............Timmy and Shaun I've been watching pretty much all of your videos and I am just noticing what looks like a Fat Cat or a TW over on the right side of the garage. Break that thing out!!!!!!!!!!!! What a gem!!!!!!!!
Good eye. That is a 1987 Yamaha Big Wheel 200.
Timmy The Toolman man how cool is that! Funny story, a Yamaha big wheel 200 is the first full size motorcycle I ever rode. Up in West Virginia, rode it all the way down some big hill never got out of first gear hahah. Got to the bottom and fell right over, I was too short to hardly reach the foot pegs. Cool bike! Motorcycles is mainly what my channel is based on. I love ‘em. Your 4Runner videos have helped me a ton and are super enjoyable to watch. Keep it up! Entertainment is a huge part of this whole thing. Take care, and get that thing out and ride it!!!
@@TheChapMX That's cool that was the first full-size motorcycle you ever rode. I bought it to do volunteer trail work. It was a way to get out on a remote section of trail rather than walk in. I also use it to ride a trail system with a chain saw cutting out down trees across the trails. I have a cabin share in this old gold mining town called Forest City close to Downieville. There's a 35 miles trail system that I help take of. It's hard labor but I love being out in the woods doing physical work.
@@TimmyTheToolman That's awesome! And a perfect use for that bike. What kind of trails? Mtn bike or dirt bike trails? Pretty jealous of that to be close to you like that. That sounds like a sweet deal. I am right there with you, I have a ton of woods behind my house and I really enjoy cutting trail back there. Solid sweat makes you feel good.
soooo much easier then the newer vehicles that are made of plastic!
Tummy, that piece of metal bracket underneath the bumper, called bumper re-enforcement. :-)
I appreciate your tutorials!
Andy L Thanks for sharing that Andy.
I recently installed a Savage Off Road Hybrid (plate and tube) front winch bumper on my 2000 4 Runner. SOR's instructions were to trim those front frame plates just like you did (edit added. I see you did remove the whole plate. Didn't have to do that for the SOR). No question about trying to cut the welds and remove the whole plate. I wouldn't even consider that. BTW, nice job for a first timer on the angle grinder. FWIW, from experience, I recommend full face protection when using the AG. Some even say safety glasses + full face protection + breathing protection. Not a bad idea. The cutting disks are reinforced with fiberglass. That and the grinding stone turn to fine powder that hangs in the air.
Thanks for the safety tips. I was getting some hot grindings hitting me but I was covered up pretty good. I would have never thought about breathing protection though. Good to know.
I have a 2000 Toyota 4Runner need the ARB bumper do you have a link to the one you guys used or do you have a link that you get credit to?
If you open up the video description, you'll find a link.
Good job Timmah Claus!!! Got to take care of your cinematography ELF!!! LIL winch under the xmas tree is pure class sir!!
And on a personal note I'm sooo sooo glad you are back up doing video's. Got a lil worried with all the fires going on in cali.Figure you may have been rotated down there or just busy takin on extra shifts in nor cal. Glad your safe brotha :) And as always great job you guys!!
Thanks my 3rd Gen Brother! We appreciate your kind words. Yep, got to take care of my buddy Sean. He works hard on the videos and I wanted to get him something really nice for Christmas. I was in Ventura for 2 weeks in December. Came home a week before Christmas. That's why we hadn't got a video out for a while. We're back on the video train again. Our second year anniversary is coming up on Feb 23rd. We're hoping we reach 5000 subscribers by then. It's been cool seeing our channel grow and rewarding to hear from so many people that our videos have helped them out. Happy New Year! And as always, Happy Wrenching!
Just ordered this bumper in the new finish arb is offering. Very excited to put it on next weekend!
Cool! Hope the install goes smooth for you.
Great video! I am getting ready to install and document the Land Cruiser 100 series version of this bumper. The ARB instructions are not very good and this is extremely helpful! Thanks!
Brady Adventures Glad you like the video. Good luck with your bumper install.
Thanks you so much for this very detailed installed.
You're very welcome.
Good job Timmy I also did this job about 3 months ago it was a great pain in the a** couldn't get the bumper to lineup properly you made a look easy.
And the arb Instructions suck
Good video..
Hey Gilbert, don't be fooled by the video length. We also struggled to get the bumper to line up. The hardest part was getting the bumper to fit between the two brackets. When we struggle, we cut out a lot of it because it would make the video too long to watch. But, after the struggle, we always share what gave us success so hopefully somebody following our video has an easier time. The pry bar on the brackets to spread them out a little was the trick to finally getting the bumper to fit between the brackets. Happy Wrenching!
Added this elsewhere.
But use the 4RNR bottle Jack + a 4x4 post to pry those brisket open wider. Worked really easily. So much so I had to do it twice when I used the wrong bolts & snap-in nuts. Oops…..
One again great video!! I was wondering any differences with installation on 96-98 4runner with the small bumpers ?
Terry Giovanakis no difference. Any 96 - 02 4runner will be exactly the same once the bumper & bumper support are removed.
Excellent video with included warnings!
Thanks Branson. Glad you like it.
Another outstanding video! An Aftermarket bumper is high on my list.... this will be helpful!
Hey Steve, glad you like the video. I think the hardest thing about installing an aftermarket bumper is figuring out which one you want to buy. There's so many choices for us 3rd Gen owners.
Another great vid. Thanks for 42mins of awesome. Did you show a pic of his rig after the install? Or are you waiting for the winch first :)
Thanks Minh. We didn't really pull his rig out of my garage to get a better shot of what it looks like with the new bumper. We are planning on installing the winch in the near future so we'll get a better shot of it when we get do that.
35:54, I used a stubby 3/8" drive ratchet with a 17mm and it went smoother. From there, you can use a larger one for final torque.
Thanks for sharing that Minh.
Wow Shaun! Another 4runner, thts great!!! More vids to come cuz of this 4runner I hope!
It's actually Sean, and don't worry Israel, the Timmy the Toolman train isn't going to slow down anytime soon. We're gonna keep cranking out the videos.
fun fact: this 2000 limited black 4runner is my third 3RD GEN!
lol i was thinking the same . Lets hope new track needs a lot of maintenance !
It probably needs a ton of work but we don't necessarily need our own rigs to work on. There's lots of people in the 3rd Gen Community in our area to help out with projects and make new videos with. I don't know how many complete strangers rigs we've worked on, but it's quite a few. The cool thing is a decent percentage of these guys are now friends of ours. It's a cool community of Toyota enthusiasts.
Could just heavily score the metal and the use a adjustable wrench and bend the metal back and forth till it snaps off. If you use a angle grinder a lot it will save some time and disks. Once you get into one weld, you can use a hammer and chisel to put some stress in to the welds and the would start to pop. If not rinse and repeat and it will come off. And since you’re using a cordless it will save on battery charge. Cordless angle grinders are great for small jobs, but won’t last long for big projects.
Thanks for the tips.
Not my application (first gen Tundra), but great video. Great overview and pointers. Thanks!
Thanks and You're Welcome Matt!
Your videos are great, pure gold for a 3rd gen owner. Many thanks!
Would it be possible to make any modifications to accommodate for a 1" body lift? I only ask because you have another video of a body lift install, and I believe it's on the same truck. I can't imagine any way to compensate and avoid a gap between the bumper and the grill.
Hey Ben, glad you like our videos. You're welcome. You can alter the bumper mounts to accommodate for the body lift. You basically have to drill different holes so the bumper sits higher and tighter to the body.
You guys are the best. I've learnt so much watching your videos. Down to earth honest stuff! How can one donate to support your channel?
Satish Kumar Thanks for the offer Satish. The best way you can show your appreciation is Pay It Forward to someone else. Sean and I started this channel to help people. Use the knowledge you gained from our channel to help somebody esle out with their 3rd Gen 4runner or other vehicle. Our payment is hearing back from people just like you that are putting out videos to good use. Happy Wrenching Brother!
Thanks Timmy. I'll do as you suggest. Best wishes.
Timmy The Toolman - I have a 96 4runner sr5 4x4. Where can I purchase the fsm at a reasonable price? Thanks.
Satish Kumar I got mine on eBay. That is probably the best way to find a decent price for an actual hard copy. Sean found a 2002 FSM online so he has a digital copy. I like having a tangible copy I can make notes in.
Hey Satish, just do a Google search. You'll most likely find a set for sale on Ebay or possibly Craigslist.
Ok thank you. Have a good day
David Woodbury you have a great day as well! Cheers
Did you say you were using the turn signals as fog lights as well? Please explain how you did that.
Watching paint drying is always a drag, especially if it's super cool out lol
Yeah, good thing the flat black spray paint we used is quick drying. It was cold the day we shot this video.
Excellent video! Thank you
Thanks and you're very welcome.
Good detail, hopefully this is similar to my 78... i have the same bar, just need to take it off.
It's probably similar. Good luck removing it.
I watch the entire video all the time. Damn you Timmy. I got shit I have to do. Lol
Thanks John. Your comment made me laugh.
Hi guys I noticed the ARB bumper Only has turn signals no built-in fog lights Is there a spot to bolt fog lights up on the bumper
There are places to mount lights on the top of the bumper and on the tubing as well.
Hmm might have to do this, we go to some gnarly places and it'd be a convenient place to mount our hang glider front rack.
ARB makes a nice aftermarket bumper. If you pull the plug and buy one, good luck with the install.
Great work Timmy. I am contemplating on installing an ARB after my 3rd gen got a parking lot hit and run on the grill guard (crash bar). The problem that I am worried about is the weight of an ARB. I installed a bull bar (Japanese) to a Hilux LN 106 4x4 and soon after that, I cannot pickup from stop on the 2nd gear on a flat paved road. I have to give more throttle or use 1st gear always. After removing the bullbar, I could pickup from a stop with 2nd gear on idle. This is why I am still wondering what to do. We all know 3rd Gen runners (hulix surf or Prado 90 with 5vzfe ) are bad with MPG so with added weight, it is be worst.
Jan pur Adding weight to your rig is going to slow you down and hurt your gas mileage. That's one of the down sides of adding aftermarket bumpers, skids, winch, rock rails, etc. Cool modifications come at a price.
Thanks for all the great videos! Having trouble tracking down replacement bolts to actually reattach my bumper reinforcement to the frame end caps, but all bolts and welded -on nuts are stripped! Help!
You'll have to re-tap or run a thread restorer through those welded nuts.
I love the BW in all your videos. Don't see many around. Talk about being able to go ANYWHERE.
Colt Wilkins Hey Colt, great job recognizing the Yamaha Big Wheel. Most people probably don't even know what it is. I bought it to do volunteer trail work. I strap a chainsaw on the back and go out sawing out down trees for a day. I also used it as transportation to where we're building trail. I haven't been part of a trail build in a few years but I do still do trail maintenance.
Timmy The Toolman the first time I saw it I thought it was an old 250 or 350x Honda three wheeler. Lol!
It's an 87 Yamaha Big Wheel 200. Awesome machine!
great video! Saved me a lot of time figuring stuff out! and HOLY hardware haha. It's going in my extra hardware drawer.
Minh Bui Glad the video helped you out Minh. Yeah, the amount of hardware they include is a little intimidating. Just like you, we had tons of extra fasteners.
quick note, on a 98 tacoma there is no need to cut anything. I installed the bumper almos as replacing the oem one.
Yeah there are differences in the frame ends between the rigs that had the lower profile bumper and the Fat Lip bumper. Thanks for the comment.
I can't wait for mine to come in
Good luck with the install when you get it.
great job Timmy and Sean!
Thanks Sandeep!
Nice job guys!! How much does that bumper weigh? Did you guys measure the wheel wells before and after the install?
Hey Eric, no, we didn't do any measurements. I don't know the weight but I imagine Sean does. He'll get back to you with the weight.
This bumper weighs approximately ~150lbs. If you add a winch you're adding another 70-80lbs. This is a good reason to go with 650lb springs for your front coilover struts and not the typical 600lb coils.
Thank you! I have a Prado 90 which looks exactly the same
You're welcome. Good luck with the install.
If anyone is planning a smitty winch (smitty 9500 steel cable) for this bumper, you can use the bolts that ARB provides but i've found they strip rather easily against the winch square nuts. I ended up using the winch supplied bolts. The only problem is, you can't use the lock washer the winch bolts came with since the bolts are too short! Helps to have a pen style magnet to keep the nuts in place while you line it up with the holes/bolt.
Thanks for sharing this Minh.
I hope you’re still checking these comments, I did this install and I thought I wired my blinkers right but I keep popping turn signal fuses and the turn signals, hazards and horn don’t work now. Please help!!
Well there is only 2 wires (hot and ground), so you must have wired them incorrectly.
- Sean
I do have a Tacoma not shore Wich generation 2012 . Thank you have a good day.
You have a 2nd Generation Tacoma. This video might give you an idea of how to install a bumper on your 2012 Tacoma but I would suggest you look for a video or write-up that involves installing a bumper on a 2nd Gen Tacoma.
Hey Timmy I noticed he swapped the ambers turn lens covers to clear . Did he mention where he bought them ? Or did i miss a link ?
Check out the build thread, post #90 on page 6.
www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/163299-infamousrnrs-2002-limited-bu-ld-thread-6.html
- Sean
Love the video! Got mine installed on my 2008 4runner. The issue I have is that can't hardly get my hand into the bumper well enough to open the hood. Do you recommend just opening it up with a grinder?
I guess you could do a little grinding to give you more access but it depends if that will bother you due to how it will look. If you're not super concerned about the looks, I'd probably do a little griding to improve your access to the hood latch.
I was checking for a link to the bumper, did not saw one?
You need to expand the video description by clicking on "More" and you'll see a link to the bumper.
I use all your vids for my 4Runner, you guys are great and I appreciate all the hard work!! I was wondering if there is anyway to fit an ARB bumper with a 2inch body lift. I cannot have the 2inch space between the bumper and body, it’s horrid lol.
The bumper will fit fine but you’ll have a gap between the bumper and body. Sean has a 1.5” body lift on his 2002 & to address the hideous gap between the bumper & the body he took off the mounting brackets, cut them, & re-welded them 1.5” higher. It looks perfect now
I recently hit a deer going 55 with an ARB bumper on the front of my Tacoma. It pushed back approximately 2 to 3 in slightly dented the hood and barely wrinkled the quarter panel. I haven't taken it off yet but my guess is the brackets are bent
Yeah, I would say the brackets bent in like they were designed to do.
@@TimmyTheToolman I emailed ARB to see if they sell the bracket separately. I hope they do otherwise I have to buy a whole new bumper. Or Fab up some brackets
Tim, I have a 5th gen 4Runner (‘23 actually). When installing a bigger front suspension, the sway bar had to be moved forward. The nut that was welded inside the frame started free spinning. Found out it happens. So what’s your advice on solving this? I prefer a minimalist solution, no welding, no cutting frame parts. Can a rivet nut work?
A riv nut could work, I imagine. It would be better with a welded nut, though. How you get in there to weld it, I don't know.
I've been told numerous times on T4R that the OEM fatlip assembly is nearly 100lbs in total. But I highly doubt it. What say you, Sean/Tim?
Not a freaking chance it's 100lbs. Maybe 25 lbs, if that.
@@TimmyTheToolman Exactly what I said.
Dude Timmy, you need some siiiick mods on that 4Runner of yours!
I just bought another 3rd Gen, a 98 Limited 4x4 automatic with 131,000 miles. I plan on modding the shit out of that one.
Tim,
Is the bumper that you removed from your rig considered the "fat lip" bumper?
Thanks again for all the videos. I enjoy them a ton and they've saved me tons of money!
You know Nate, I don't know but I'll ask Sean. He'll know if it is.
Just heard back from Sean. Yes, the bumper on my 2000 is considered the "Fat Lip" Bumper.
Thank you! I pulled the rear bumper off my 02 and painted it. It came off easily. I've wanted to pull the front to paint as well, but I thought it would be much more complicated. Apparently not! Thanks again for the videos!
Nate Webb You're welcome Nate. Nice to hear our videos are helping you out. Happy Wrenching!
Do all 4Runner/Tacoma/tundra have the two forward facing plates welded to the ends of the frame channels? There’s no way to reach into the cavity of the frame from the front without cutting them off?
There's some slight differences with the frame ends. I can't remember which years have what. The frame ends have to come off for the ARB crush cans to be able to slide over the frame rails.
Hey Timmy!
Great, helpful video as usual man. Quick question, I've heard this bumper (without winch) weighs around 75lbs. I would be shaving off the weight of the stock bumper on top of that and I was wondering if Bilstein w/ OME 881 front / 906 rear (2" lift - stock weigh ) would be able to handle it or I should go up for 883 (2.5") front and 890 (2.5") rear?
Without installing a winch, the weight added by the bumper isn’t that much so you’ll be fine with that bilstein setup and the ARB bumper.
@@TimmyTheToolman Thanks for helping out the community as always :)
@@rohtkowitz You're very welcome.
Hey, thanks for the video! After the bumper is installed, will you be able to remove the grill and headlights without taking off the bumper? Thinking about getting nicer headlights after the bumper.. Thanks again!
Vince G you will be able to remove the headlights, but the grill is kind of stuck. The cool thing about removing the headlight, is that will allow you room to sneak the grill out
Nice one
Thanks for the video legends. Fyi the nut "doo-dads" to which you refer are actually called "cage nuts". The more you know. 👍
Thanks for sharing the correct name. Other names I could have used would have been dumaflaches, or chingaderas.
@@TimmyTheToolman thing-a-ma-jig and who's-a-whats-its are also common names.
@@pv3566 I forgot the thing-a-ma-jigger. Haven't used that one in a while.
@@TimmyTheToolman probably because it has skipped off into the never never, to sip Grape Nihi by the beach with every 10mm socket that's even been produced.
@@pv3566 Yeah, a couple of my 10mm sockets are there in never never land.
hey tim, at 28:16, do you think you need to drill out that hole a bit bigger than 7/16" so the sleeve actually passes through both sides of the frame rail. I think the way you have it now, it only passes through one side (the top) since that hole is larger. Seems like it is supporting the frame/bolt under heavy winching? I might be wrong but i'll check that out when I do mine. Seems like it might be long enough to brace both sides of the frame rail?
Never mind . I guess the washers will squeeze against that sleeve if it gets intense enough.
Hey Timmy i think the part's name that you don't know the name is the Reinforcement Bar. it is around minute five on the video. I could be wrong but i did some research while i am looking for a bumper.
Cool. Thanks for sharing this.
You're welcome!!
With all the extra weight at the very front end of the vehicle, is there any extra suspension sag or reduced engine performance?
There will definitely be more sag in the suspension and any extra weight you add to the vehicle will slow you down. The engine will still perform the same but now you're asking for more from it. The more weight you add with heavy aftermarket bumpers, armor, rock rails, etc will slow you down and lower your mpg.
What betted can you do on Christmas eve than wrenching on your 4runner?? Personally i went to harbour freight for tools. Too cold here in NY.
I love Harbor Freight. I buy my shop rags, latex gloves and lots of other things there.
Hello again question I want to get some blistein 5100 for my 2000 4runner what springs do you recommend to go with them .I plan on getting a ARB bumper and I don’t want the front and sagging with the extra weight. I want to lift it up at least 3 inches in the front or better. Where do you guys suggest.Thanks for the great videos I’ve change my fuel injectors and upgraded my front brakes watching your videos great job
You basically want 650 lb rated springs with that bumper. 600 is too soft and 700 is too stiff. The rating is the amount of weight it takes to compress the springs 1 inch. You can pick up the springs or complete coilovers with the Bilstein 5100s already installed from different sellers. You just have to do some online searching.
What if you want to switch bumpers down the line? Will cutting off the brackets be an issue or will all the bumpers still attach?
It might be an issue. Not all bumpers attach the same way. This is one of the things you have to consider when doing modifications... in other words, you will have to weld back on the front plates if you want to attach your stock bumper back to your rig.
I recently got a used arb bumper, just the bumper. Same one as the vid, where would I be able to get the crush cans and the bolts to install it into my 4runner
From ARB. Email customer service with the bumper model # referenced in the video.
Hack: to do this alone I used the 4Runner bottlejack & 4x4 post to spread the ‘crush cans’ wider and skip the bumper on. AND…I rest the bumper on a painter’s bench to hold it up there.
Note: makes sure to use the correct bolts from kit to mount the bumper. I didn’t and had to drop bumper and switch the nuts/bolt combo. >sigh
Nice hack. You did what you needed to do to get the job done.
Just to clarify, how did bend/spread the crush cans with the bottle jack and a 4x4? I'm having trouble visualizing how to set this up.
@@leeanderson7300 I put the 4x4 post (cut to length) to allow me to screw the Jack taller, thus pushing the frame rails slightly wider. The ‘tightness’ held the two up there. It was a challenge to balance and screw it taller, but I got it done. This make sense?
I have a 2002 4runner. I am in the process of getting an ARB bumper. Can you post a link where to get one like this? Thanks
Blake Ferrell www.autoanything.com/grille-guards/arb-deluxe-bull-bars
after the bumper and winch how much of the lift did you lose? I have 883 and feel like stock again after my bumper winch combo. Considering 1" strut spacer to get back up, share your thoughts
We never took measurements so we don't know but Sean got 650lb springs up front to compensate. 700lb springs might even be necessary if your bumper and winch are really heavy
Was that Sean, getting bak at me?!
Yep, that was Sean. I do the majority of the responding to questions and comments but Sean does respond sometimes especially when I'm fighting a wildland fire somewhere in California and I don't really have internet access.
Great video👍🏻 I want to do this to my 98 Tacoma so...can I follow this exactly or are there some steps different compared to this 4Runner?
The difference will be the end caps that we cut off. ARB provides you with end cap blocks that you secure to the frame rail ends once you take off your stock bumper. That’s basically the difference.
Tim! Hey man so I've been having this bumper on my truck for a while. I had to drill some extra holes in the bumper itself in order to lifted 2" because I have a 2" toytec body lift on my truck. I believe that the bumper came with some 2" spacers but a mad quite sure how to install them. Any advice would be helpful because I'd like to have it installed correctly instead of fabricating some holes.
Hey Patrick, I'm not familiar with the spacers you're talking about. If you have a fabrication shop near your, maybe they could help you out.
will factory suspenssion suport the weight of the ARB bumper with or without winch? or is a stiffer coil and shock recomended?
Stock front suspension will sag a bit from the weight of the ARB bumper and sag even more if you add a winch. We do recommend that you run stiffer springs if you install an aftermarket steel bumper.
@@TimmyTheToolman thank you timmy ,you ,shawn and everyone who contribute to your videos are awesome.
What suspension mods do you recommend for this bumper and winch combination
The additional weight is going to make the front end sag quite bit. A good thing to do would be to upgrade the front springs to a 650 lb rating. I'm not sure if they even make a replacement spring in the that weight rating for stock height. You might be forced to lift the rig a little. Do some research and see what you find out.
I just bought a lift for my 98 rig and with an aftermarket bumper and winch, it was recommended to go with a 650 lb front coil spring. Some people even go with a 700 lb spring but that might be overkill. I can tell you right now my 98 is running very stiff up front with the 650 springs and without the additional weight on the front just yet.
With the additional weight of the ARB bar and winch do you need to change your front springs?
It would be best to replace the front springs for a set that has a 650 lb/inch spring rate. This would be ideal. If you kept the OEM springs, the front end is going to sag from the additional weight of the bumper and winch.
Love your vids! I use them all the time as I work on my 1999 T4R Limited. ?4U... one of the comment replies on AMZ for this bumper indicated "This bumper will also require upgrading your front suspension to handle the weight - 150 lbs+- to maintain decent handling on- or off-road". (1) Did you upgrade your suspension, and (2) if not, have you seen any negative handling/performace with the stock suspension?
Good to hear you're getting good use of our videos. Sean's suspension was already upgraded. The stock springs will sag quite a bit with the extra weight from the bumper. It's better to get springs that match the weight you're carrying.
@@TimmyTheToolman Thanks for the insanely quick response. Makes sense. I am OCD on details, steps, what-ifs, etc. and your videos provide the level of detail and explanation that fits my needs/style. Keep up the good work.
Sorry for the bother, but do you have any recommendations for upgraded front coils to handle the added weight of this ARB bumper (1999 T4R Limited, 3.4L). Thanks.
@@drewross5589 You'd want springs that are rated for 600 lbs. If you plan on adding a winch, get 650 lbs springs. I don't have a recommendation on brand. There's lots to choose from.
Good stuff Timmah!
kcmaloney1 Thanks Kebin.
Hey Timmy and Sean, thanks so much for all of your amazing work. Used your videos many times to great success! A question about springs - I see some folks have already asked about this bumper going on OME 881s in the front; I've got a 2000 sr5 with 881s in front and 891s in rear, but also running a tent on top, storage in the rear and steel skid plate under the front. Do you think this bumper would be adding a straw too much for the 881s? From what I heard from ARB the 881s are rated for 110-240+ weight but I still hear a lot of folks saying they're for "stock" weight and that 883s are more appropriate for added load. Thoughts on that? Thanks again!
You're running pretty heavy so you might have to upgrade your springs to something with a higher weight rating.
@@TimmyTheToolman Makes sense! Thanks again for all you guys do - really appreciate your work!
@@kaicarpenter240 No Problem.
Another great video!
lance henthorn thanks for the comment!!
Sean, your next job is to get those bald tires replaced!
I noticed that too.
HAHA! yeah they are pretty bad huh?! don't worry, I have a set of Interco Super Swampers waiting to be mounted and balanced!
Happy new year!!!!!. I am watching your video. It is awesome as always. While I am not handy, i like to watch your videos. What are you going to do with the bumper you removed. i ask because I would like to keep my truck as original as possible. My 2002 4 Runner bumper is rusted and I'm interested in purchasing an original bumper.
Sean already gave it to a local kid we know that has a 3rd Gen. His name is Jax and he's still in high school. Since Jax has limited funds available, Sean gave him the bumper.
Thank you so much. I hope Jax takes good care of his 3rd gen. If he is interested in selling it have him get in touch with me. Thank you so much!! Oniel
Do you have any suggestions for wiring in the blinkers on the bumper? Asking for a 99 limited
Yes, check out this video where I install a CBI Front Hybrid bumper on my 98 3rd Gen. Go to play time 25 minutes 15 seconds and I walk you through how I did it. ruclips.net/video/cVmoRK54P9k/видео.html
So I noticed around 33:15 when your lining up the bumper you have clear or white turn singles. Where did you get them?
Christopher Backen
www.gamiviti.com/lenses
hey great video! did the bumper come pre-assembled with no welding required to build it?
Yes, it comes pre-assembled.
@@TimmyTheToolman thank you
@@jacksonbates208 You're welcome.
Did you ever fix the parking brake bell crank on your truck?. Do you have any videos off it?
Leino26 Whose rig are you referencing? I don't remember anyone having a problem with their bellcrank.
2002 Toyota 4 Runner Sr5. I live upstate NY. We got a lot of snow here
We haven't had to fix any troublesome bell cranks yet. We don't have the rust issues here in the California Bay Area.
Thank you.