Vehicle tow ratings: GVWR, GCWR, tongue weights, and more.
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2020
- Michael Hall, CEO of Hall Logic, explains vehicle and trailer ratings using the GVWR app.
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The GVW app helps evaluate tow vehicle and trailer combinations. This is helpful while shopping for a new trailer or tow vehicle. GVW’s unique dashboard helps you quickly see how close you are to vehicle and trailer limits. The dashboard is interactive, allowing you to add cargo and see how loads are affected real-time.
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Thank you, been looking at video all day and stumble across your and it was by far the best.Great job my guy👍🏽
Very informative 😊
Very helpful and very detailed given the time used. Thank you
I got the application downloaded thank you that is the best video I found
Great info and app. Thanks
What did u use to weigh your truck and trailer?
Very helpful video. What role does frontal area play, and how do I factor this into the equation?
Looks great guys, it would be nice to have a choice of metric units rather than just imperial. That might open the app to world wide use.
nice however there isn't anywhere close to me to run back and forth to to scale to be able to figure that out. Nice vid and thnx for the info appreciate it
Is there a way to use Cat Scale weights to check my truck and bumper-pull trailer individual GVWRs and axle weights versus their ratings? This would be seem simple. Since the Cat Scale provides truck GAWF and GAWR and trailer axle(s), you'd think that the trailer axle(s) weight would be the TGVW. However, some of trailer weight is transferred to the truck axles via the tongue and load-distribution hitch. Is there a way to determine the trailer GVW using only the 3 axle weights provided by a Cat Scale, or do I need an actual tongue weight, to be able to accurately asses the trailer GVW and/or in the trailer? What if I also know the front and rear axle weights of my truck, with the truck empty (except for two passengers in the truck)? The effect of the weight being transferred/shared through the load-distribution hitch is stumping me a bit, in what seems like it should be an easy assessment. :-/
Now I need to figure out whether my 2011 Ford F150 Lariat 4X4 Ecoboost has "Trailer Tow Package" or "Max Trailer Tow Package".
How is the pin weight determined after your fifth wheel is loaded
I understand all the other weight limits.
Thanks in advance!
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i wanted to get a teardrop for my 1989 Toyota Corolla but i don't have the gcwr. how do i find it
What's really sad is the F-150 in the video only has 200 lbs less cargo capacity than my F-250, because of the way Ford fictitiously limits F-250s to 10,000 lbs GVWR to save on insurance and registration.
Jesus Christ why do we need a freaking college degree to know how much my FREAKING TRUCK CAN TOW
Your question is a bit narrow-minded. There is more to [legally and safely] towing a trailer than simply knowing how much weight a truck can pull.
@@velikijoxotnikno he’s right have you tried googling the phrase “gcwr ratings brands” or “gcwr ratings manufacturer”? They intentionally keep it hush in order to sell more half-tons
@@velikijoxotnikexactly what I was thinking that guy is just full of himself
Where in the manual can you find the gcwr? I can’t find it anywhere online, in the car or in the manual.
How do you weigh this stuff. My scale isn’t big enough to put a car or a trailer on
Just starting out and looking to pull a trailer but I was wondering if RV dealers have weight scales available for finding the actual weights of truck and/or trailers ?
Unfortunately, no, RV dealers do not have scales. Landfills and major truck stops are your best bet for floor scales.
BetterWeigh is an onboard scale you can use anywhere.
www.curtmfg.com/betterweigh
@@michaelhall3485 Thanks for the info. I am used to doing annual weight checks on big wide body aircraft . Stripping the plane of pillow/blankets, galley carts, fuel tanks empty, etc. , then weigh it 3 times rotating the elect. scales to a new axle each time and average the results and send it to engineering records. Simple !
Most truck stops have CAT Scales to weigh semi-trucks on 3 axles simultaneously: steering, tractor drives, & trailer. If u place your pickup correctly, you can get this same split on the scale ticket. Runs ~$14.
Been using the app 6 months & very helpful in selecting a recent SuperDuty purchase & seeking next RV.
1. Do manufacturer’s GVWR sticker include fuel weight, if not does the application factor fuel wt.?
2. Does the app calc/include a buffer/safety factor before reaching yellow caution range?
Love the app because it’s easy to use & stores the ratings on multiple (pulling) vehicles. Suggest a link or page included detailing it’s parameters.
Thanks
How did u measure toung weight?
Sorry, not trying to sound stupid, but when you way you are measuring the "weight" of the vehicle and the tongue weight and the combined weight of the vehicle and trailer, how are you doing that? Where do you go to do that or how are you measuring those?
I used BetterWeigh, an onboard scale device. I first weighed the vehicle alone, and then with the trailer (combination). You can also use a scale at a landfill, or sole truck stops have a CAT scale for weighing.
So I installed the app and added all the values based on my setup: 2019 Tundra : 7200 GVWR with max cargo at 1265 and 15540 GCWR (per the user manual). The trailer Rockwood 2516s: 7772 GVWR with 1568 max cargo. All said and done the app now reads GVW 6829 for the Tundra (yellow warning) with a total GCW of 12289. That's with ZERO cargo added to either the truck or trailer. If I move the GCW slider to the max (still yellow) to 7195 that puts the GCW now at 13139 and only allows me 300lbs cargo in the truck (not even covering my wife and I) and 550 lbs cargo allowed in the trailer. And the optimum tongue weight at 816. Anything above that everything turns red. Is that accurate? Did I get too much trailer for the Tundra. Please advise!
You have it right. Most setups these days max out on payload before reaching a combined limit. As pickups add larger cabs and luxury items, the payload left over has gone down. Some loaded F150’s have less than 1000 lb payload capacity. This payload has to cover tongue weight as well as cargo.
Quick follow up on this. I used a tongue weight scale yesterday and the trailer came in at just under 800. Might as well call it 800 lbs. weighed my truck at the local Catscales and with a full tank of gas, just me and no cargo it weighed 6520. We took the trailer out yesterday loading up just some essentials for a long weekend. Not much stuff (not even any firewood). Nothing in the trailer other than our typical cooking utensils and some beverages for just the two of us. Reweighed the truck and trailer at the scales and the drive axle came in at 7820lbs, the trailer axle at 5980lbs and a gross of 13800lbs. So I’m over on my GVWR by 620lbs?
@@bushedly unfortunately, you are most likely over the manufacturer's recommendations.
Does the Gawr only apply when the trailer is moving? Does the rating apply when you are parked at a camp site with no vehicle hooked up
I didn't understand GVWR if trailer. i thought t was 6,000 lbs?
Better way? Whats that?
im just now learning about GVWR and i was wondering if you know how to change the GVWR from a 33,000 rating down to a 26,000 rating so i can avoid getting a cdl
If your taking about a vehicle and not a trailer, I don't beleive you can. At least not as a pratical matter. It would have to be re-engineered by someone who is authorized. De rating a trailer is much easier and much more common. I beleive its done via the trailers manufacturer. I believe the path of least resistance may be to get a non commercial DL if your state offers one. Non Commercial Class B to drive it, Non Commercial Class A to tow with it, unless the GVWR of the trailer you want to tow is less than 10,001 pounds GVWR. Then you can do that with only a Class B CDL. But I have never been able to determine conclusively if non commercial CDLs apply to anything other than RVs./motor homes. But all the requirements are based on the state you are licensed in and not based on the state you are driving in. No state allows someone with a Class C DL to operate a vehicle with a GVWR greater than 26,000 lbs. without some sort of commercial or non commercial DL because that limit is Federal and no state is allowed be less restrictive than Federal requirements. If a non CDL isn't an option, I would likely just sell the truck and buy one with a GVWR less than 26,,001 lbs. to avoid all the hassle. But that's just me.
You don’t need a CDL if it’s your own property. Only need CDL if towing commercially
Whats the Aplication name please
Hey Michael, Lets do the math, your blog has had 98K views. Your "👍" has received 829 favorable reviews. That's less than 1%.. You were doing good until you got to the 2:40 point in the video. How are we suppose to weight the three items from our driveway like you did??? I don't think my bathroom scale is rated for more than 250 lbs.
Yeah, okay, let me just go outside and dust off my truck scale.
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Looks like he's from WV.
This video doesnt answer my fucking question. How much can my truck tow!!