Yeah, this is a clip from the end of the Gwangju 600km brevet. I quite like the scenery, mixing family farm agriculture, rugged mountains, and butting right up to a sizeable city. Do you live in Korea too?
The phone is always listening. What kind of riding do you want to do? My channel is focused on really long rides, but those strategies and equipment transfer well to newer riders too.
Are you still using this? I have one, along with their Tri Stem which it mounts to, but the -17 angle is putting me off. Tried to think of ways of mounting the bracket to the existing stem at the right angle but there isn’t an easy way of doing it
I still have it, and have avoided the urge to chop it up and turn it into a snack box/front mud guard combo. I've tried fitting the stem plate to other stems, but it never works. Swapping to a bar with rise like the Specialized Hover Bar can undo the -17 angle I suppose. My biggest barrier to permanent use is that I love my suspension stems much more than the Aeria bottle.
Are you familiar with the Cyclite aero bag? Similar advantages as the Aeria for long distance cycling, but considerably bigger, at nearly 5 litres capacity. You could stuff a bladder in it for your hydration needs AND your wet weather gear or other stuff. I’m considering buying one for my first ultra. Curious about your thoughts on this product.
It looks to be sensible if you need lots of storage volume like for bikepacking type ultra events or touring, but probably isn't as aero as the name implies. Its got a big frontal area. I like the nifty light mount option. It would be best for lightweight items to reduce its effect on handling since it sits a bit forward of the headtube and has high volume. For road-based events I lean more towards top tube and frame bags first, and a behind-the-saddle bag next. I've not needed more volume yet, but maybe a smaller Apidura aero bar pack would be my final addition, like in cold weather or if I had a small sized frame. Hope that helps!
@@overbikedrandonneuring Thanks! The effect on the handling is indeed a concern. I have a large seatpack, but distributing items across multiple bags would be preferable, also to keep wet rain gear and a few tools separate from spare clothes and sleeping gear. A frame bag is a no go due to knee strike, but the Apidura aero bag you suggested might be a good compromise.
@@timh5061 Cheers! Glad I can help. Dry bags or ziplocs inside the seat pack are a must if you ride in the rain. Hiking the Appalachian Trail taught me that water does not care if a product is claimed to be waterproof. Lots of folks also have knee strike with frame bags. A GCN guy (Simon?) had the same issue on an ultra event for one of their video, but had overpacked it. I've found that filling them up makes them bulge at the sides causing a lot more knee strike, but keeping them lightly packed helps keep a flat shape. A width less than 6cm and a stiff fabric construction helps keep shape too. I have had okay luck with the cheap LifeLine Adventure frame bags as long as I am gentle with the zipper. The small and medium are quite narrow when packed reasonably.
The high price and need for a specific stem put me off. Speaking of bike aerodynamics, have you seen Decathlon's Van Rysel EXP_18k concept bike? Looks like it could be a randonneuring missile if they ever bring it to market.
Yeah, the need for a specific stem is a killer, which is a shame. The VR concept has some interesting ideas. The plastic aero bar fairing reminds me of the old Zzipper fairings for years past. Extra long seatpost should be somewhat comfy too. I expect to see more storage solutions like their concept in the near future, which should benefit us randonneurs. The Orbea style aero storage on the downtube bottle boss has been on my list for the next bike build. Bolt on frame bags that transition smoothly with the frame (like Ridley have done) also make a lot of sense. I would prefer to see a draft box behind the seatpost, perhaps with an integrated mini-mud guard for such a concept bike. Thanks for sharing!
I've not, but I bet it is easier to reach the straw. Would allow the use of suspension stem too. A regular BTA bottle is quite nice for convenience, so one with a straw surely is even better. I've removed my BTA bottle since about a year ago due to the handling effects, but maybe it's time to revisit the system with a little 500ml bottle instead of a 750ml monster. Thanks for the comment! I'll ponder on this a while.
@@overbikedrandonneuring I haven’t noticed much of a handling change with the system installed. It’s also super easy to remove the bottle for cleaning, and the whole system comes off with two velcro straps. I ride gravel and have had no rattling or launching issues either. I think you would enjoy it!
how much space dos it take op on the handlebar? what is the minimum distance between the spacers for your aerobars. i have only 7-8 cm for spacers and stem, and want this ass well
Good question. It dulls steering feel a bit, but since it keeps the weight low and most of it's volume is near the headtube, has less of an impact than a between-the-arms bottle on aero bars or a similar weight handlebar pack.
@@overbikedrandonneuring Thank you. I tried the "between the aerobars" approach but didn't like it especially on more technical sections. Not fond of a backpack either, but a large hip belt with a bladder (or bottles) works surprisingly well (until my g/f "stole" it :-). That also creates less strain on your back since the weight is about at hip level.
@@wazzup105 I get that feeling. Extra water capacity has so many options, and all of them are compromised haha. BTA is the lesser of evils for me so far, but I'll be experimenting more with down-the-shirt-front options and maybe the Back Bottle or some soft flasks in the jersey pocket here shortly. Backpacks are too hot and belts interfere with my, um, aero belly.
@@overbikedrandonneuring There's also down the downtube and I've seen plastic triangular ones that go down the triangle of the bike. Both keeps the center of gravity low. And of course you can install a pannier rack and use that. Might even make you more aero as well although with our upright position I wonder.
6:13 Is here Korea? The scenery gives off some kind of Korean country road vibe
Yeah, this is a clip from the end of the Gwangju 600km brevet. I quite like the scenery, mixing family farm agriculture, rugged mountains, and butting right up to a sizeable city. Do you live in Korea too?
@@overbikedrandonneuring Yes, I am Korean too.
It's amazing to see a foreigner doing Randonneurs in Korea
7:05 seriously hope Profile Design see this idea!
Thanks! I pestered them about it over email, but doubt it will happen. All the tri bikes are moving to internal hydration storage.
Fantastic adjustments. Needed help getting mine to function more effectively while riding
RUclips put me here for some reason how did it know I was talking about bikes earlier today?!?
The phone is always listening. What kind of riding do you want to do? My channel is focused on really long rides, but those strategies and equipment transfer well to newer riders too.
Are you still using this? I have one, along with their Tri Stem which it mounts to, but the -17 angle is putting me off.
Tried to think of ways of mounting the bracket to the existing stem at the right angle but there isn’t an easy way of doing it
I still have it, and have avoided the urge to chop it up and turn it into a snack box/front mud guard combo. I've tried fitting the stem plate to other stems, but it never works.
Swapping to a bar with rise like the Specialized Hover Bar can undo the -17 angle I suppose. My biggest barrier to permanent use is that I love my suspension stems much more than the Aeria bottle.
Are you familiar with the Cyclite aero bag? Similar advantages as the Aeria for long distance cycling, but considerably bigger, at nearly 5 litres capacity. You could stuff a bladder in it for your hydration needs AND your wet weather gear or other stuff. I’m considering buying one for my first ultra. Curious about your thoughts on this product.
It looks to be sensible if you need lots of storage volume like for bikepacking type ultra events or touring, but probably isn't as aero as the name implies. Its got a big frontal area. I like the nifty light mount option. It would be best for lightweight items to reduce its effect on handling since it sits a bit forward of the headtube and has high volume. For road-based events I lean more towards top tube and frame bags first, and a behind-the-saddle bag next. I've not needed more volume yet, but maybe a smaller Apidura aero bar pack would be my final addition, like in cold weather or if I had a small sized frame. Hope that helps!
@@overbikedrandonneuring Thanks! The effect on the handling is indeed a concern. I have a large seatpack, but distributing items across multiple bags would be preferable, also to keep wet rain gear and a few tools separate from spare clothes and sleeping gear. A frame bag is a no go due to knee strike, but the Apidura aero bag you suggested might be a good compromise.
@@timh5061 Cheers! Glad I can help. Dry bags or ziplocs inside the seat pack are a must if you ride in the rain. Hiking the Appalachian Trail taught me that water does not care if a product is claimed to be waterproof.
Lots of folks also have knee strike with frame bags. A GCN guy (Simon?) had the same issue on an ultra event for one of their video, but had overpacked it. I've found that filling them up makes them bulge at the sides causing a lot more knee strike, but keeping them lightly packed helps keep a flat shape.
A width less than 6cm and a stiff fabric construction helps keep shape too. I have had okay luck with the cheap LifeLine Adventure frame bags as long as I am gentle with the zipper. The small and medium are quite narrow when packed reasonably.
The high price and need for a specific stem put me off. Speaking of bike aerodynamics, have you seen Decathlon's Van Rysel EXP_18k concept bike? Looks like it could be a randonneuring missile if they ever bring it to market.
Yeah, the need for a specific stem is a killer, which is a shame.
The VR concept has some interesting ideas. The plastic aero bar fairing reminds me of the old Zzipper fairings for years past. Extra long seatpost should be somewhat comfy too.
I expect to see more storage solutions like their concept in the near future, which should benefit us randonneurs. The Orbea style aero storage on the downtube bottle boss has been on my list for the next bike build. Bolt on frame bags that transition smoothly with the frame (like Ridley have done) also make a lot of sense. I would prefer to see a draft box behind the seatpost, perhaps with an integrated mini-mud guard for such a concept bike. Thanks for sharing!
Have you tried the X Lab torpedo? Holds less water but seems like its a lot less faffy
I've not, but I bet it is easier to reach the straw. Would allow the use of suspension stem too. A regular BTA bottle is quite nice for convenience, so one with a straw surely is even better.
I've removed my BTA bottle since about a year ago due to the handling effects, but maybe it's time to revisit the system with a little 500ml bottle instead of a 750ml monster. Thanks for the comment! I'll ponder on this a while.
@@overbikedrandonneuring I haven’t noticed much of a handling change with the system installed. It’s also super easy to remove the bottle for cleaning, and the whole system comes off with two velcro straps. I ride gravel and have had no rattling or launching issues either. I think you would enjoy it!
@@JimPudar Thanks for the recco! Sounds like a winner. I'll add this to my shopping list
how much space dos it take op on the handlebar? what is the minimum distance between the spacers for your aerobars. i have only 7-8 cm for spacers and stem, and want this ass well
It's width tapers from ~7cm where it mounts to the stem plate to ~5cm near the handlebars. The section of lid above the stem is 9cm long.
How does the bike handle with 800 gram out front of the handlebar?
Good question. It dulls steering feel a bit, but since it keeps the weight low and most of it's volume is near the headtube, has less of an impact than a between-the-arms bottle on aero bars or a similar weight handlebar pack.
@@overbikedrandonneuring Thank you. I tried the "between the aerobars" approach but didn't like it especially on more technical sections. Not fond of a backpack either, but a large hip belt with a bladder (or bottles) works surprisingly well (until my g/f "stole" it :-). That also creates less strain on your back since the weight is about at hip level.
@@wazzup105 I get that feeling. Extra water capacity has so many options, and all of them are compromised haha. BTA is the lesser of evils for me so far, but I'll be experimenting more with down-the-shirt-front options and maybe the Back Bottle or some soft flasks in the jersey pocket here shortly. Backpacks are too hot and belts interfere with my, um, aero belly.
@@overbikedrandonneuring There's also down the downtube and I've seen plastic triangular ones that go down the triangle of the bike. Both keeps the center of gravity low. And of course you can install a pannier rack and use that. Might even make you more aero as well although with our upright position I wonder.
Anastacio Tunnel