LOOKING BACK at Arsenal's SEASON 👀 'Arsenal rolled the dice TOO LATE' 🎲 - Craig Burley | ESPN FC
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
- Gab Marcotti, Kieran Gibbs, Mario Melchiot and Craig Burley join Dan Thomas on ESPN FC to take a look back at Arsenal's Premier League season and react to Manchester City Midfielder Rodri's comments on the club's mentality towards the end of the season.
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People mention the Villa game because it was recent, I think dropping 7 points to Fulham and West Ham was a bigger deal. Villa is not an easy team to beat.
With great wealth comes much power. They won't be relegated.
It's recent yes that's where the league was lost the other games had them in the title race n was still winning then.
Arsenal dropped points when they were winning against 10 man Fulham at home. That was an awful result.
so u wanted Arsenal to go unbeaten ????
8 points dropped to Fulham and West Ham.
People are talking more about Arsenal losing the League than City winning it.
So what is your point really?
You never got much attention growing up i see
@@ivanrivera6998 no one cares about city who made history (4 PL in a row) because theyve got 115 charges i guess.
Nah
The whole video is about Rodri's comment so it looks like the press are also mocking Arsenal 🤣
Getting a draw against your title contender was not and will never will be the worst thing. We didn't take care of the rest of the matches. Getting 4/6 with City is not bad.
When has City ever played for a draw? Playing for a draw shows how scared they were. Champions play to win.
@@russellward4624ok they played for a win and won how many please? They didn’t beat any of their title contenders.
Orrr in previous seasons, how many times have they won at Anfield?
@@russellward4624 So you thing Real Madrid do not have Champions mentality? They were more battered than Arsenal at Etihad. Team Managers adapt and decide with a game plan to win either though counter attack or possession play.
You missed the point. It's not the result, it's the approach. Gibbs saying otherwise shows why he had a failed career.
@@bahriboy and you missed mine, city aren’t the only team to have won titles. We saw Jose do this, win at home get draws away. Were their questions about mentality?
City didn’t win any of those games no matter the mentality he’s claiming.
Arsenal got the highest of the three contenders. Bit didn’t show mentality? It’s a nonsense argument
Arsenal took 4 points from a possible 6 against City, even beating them in community shield, but got zero against Villa. So this whole discussion point is just nonsense
And if they got 6 points they would have won the league. They played for a draw at the Etihad and lost the league
It's ESPNFC, most of their discussions are complete nonsense
Arsenal need to figure out how to win dirty like simeone's teams. Saka gets kicked and not a single arsenal player off the bench can take a red card by body kicking that player? even when you're up 5-0? are you serious? never mind, guendouzi tried stiking up for his team mates and he was shipped. I get it now, this is coming from Arteta.
City don’t really care about the community shield so if u ago offer that poor you
Yeah , I believe if you go 36/38 or 32/36 against the rest of the league , you would have 100 points even without beating the title holders … it’s weird … as an example … Real Madrid knew they can’t hurt themselves , they can’t … by being open ? I think that would be naive coaching , but yes , I agree you with , winning the title , in my opinion is not about beating Man City twice
I love how the "experts" suddenly know everything AFTER the fact.
Yeah. Arsenal aren't even supposed to be in the top 4 according to Super Smart Pundits.
Why are you even watching this? It's the entire point of punditry for decades.
@@asperganoid I enjoy football discussion. Even substandard ones are entertaining. hahaha
Didn't Arsenal take 4 points in the meeting with City? Are we smoking weed pre show lads?
😂😂😂😂 I think they smoke something high for preproduction
Pure luck and parking the bus champions don't play like that bunch of cowards and bottlers
@@AshelyBarnes-no2twthe lack of objectivity from you english fans is just shocking
@AshelyBarnes-no2tw we slapped the champions up at home? City got sweet FA from the top 6 sides. Yeah nah yeah, 115 stat pad from the dud sides like Tottenham 🤣
Who won premier league sir shhhh 😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
4/6 points against city this season, best record in the league against the big six. If anyone says they lost the league by going for a draw at city away then they’re an idiot, arsenal lost it by taking 1/12 points from villa and fulham
And by losing 1 & drawing 4 games in Dec, City gave you the illusion that you lost the league due to Villa. You almost won because City were in bad form, not because of points dropped to Villa. So come back with better mentality next year and try again. A 10/10 City might be ahead of you
if you got those extra 2 point you could've won the league..
The difference is that you bet on beating "other" team, taking light on villa. while city is sweeping all the point.
Good ebening screwed us😢
Some of these pundits should be fired...arsenal get 89pts and 4 from city and they are complaining about arsenal lacking ambition If we had attacked and lost the same idiots would have said we were too open...make up your mind you Arsenal haters
city 3 - 3 spurs chelsea 4 - 4 city , city 1 - 1 liverpool . all before march game vs arsenal, so by that time, it was clear you can attack city this season and Arsenal didn't.
Exactly and all these comeback against city were penalty so penalty save Liverpool chelsea and spurs so arsenal have them selves to blame not city
@@TheClosestThingToTimeTravelarsenal 1 city 0....I guess that never happened
@@TheClosestThingToTimeTravelnone of them won though 🙄 why bring up results that didnt result in a win?
So what's the difference between 3:3 and 0:0@@TheClosestThingToTimeTravel
Craig that is crazy Arsenal lost to Aston Villa was the nail in the coffin not drawing at the Etihad
Arsenal played for the win against Villa and lost. Unfortunate, but at least they put themselves in a position to win. Against city, they didn't even play for the win, they played for a draw
@@krisxchirbas9503 I thought the old adage to win the title was take care of business at home against the top teams, avoid losing to the top teams on the road and then beat everybody else? So, people switching their tunes now that it’s Arsenal.
I totally agree keep reminding everybody that arsenal give away the again Aston villa that it games over.
Arsenal won 18 out of their last 20 games.
In most seasons, you win the league on that form.
But they're up against a club. with all those charges, so what did people expect?
Rodri was clearly talking about psychological factor. If arsenal would have gone for the kill and gotten 3 points it would have killed their confidence but playing low block at Etihad made them more arrogant and confident and they went on winning the league. It's all about psychological game. Liverpool lost their momentum when they got KO at FA Cup against United and then went on to lose 2 more points in the league against United. For arsenal 1 point against city was perfect but we all knew city would win the rest of the game so they should have gone for the kill and kill that hope for city at that game
Arsenal getting four points against City certainly wasn't why they didn't win the league. Losing to West Ham and Villa at home were much more at fault.
Chins up mate xx
Fulham man
Gab is correct here. It’s easy to say this all in hindsight, including Rodri.
No he is wrong
Rodri isn't talking in hindsight. He said that game he knew and he was proven right in the end.
Rodri criticised Arsenal after the game for their style of play but Arsenal fans said he was salty so he’s fully in his rights to double down.
@@rakimrobinsonMCFC in hindsight, why didn't he say it directly after that game?
@@lindilebangose7667 he did
Rodri clearly is rubbing it in.He knows nothing about Arsenal season.He is clearly ignorant
He knows nothing about Arsenal but he knows about winning and has the medals to prove it. Arsenal had a good season but nothing to show for it apart from champions league football next season. You could say Liverpool have had a better season. Champions league football and a trophy, Yes it's the carabou Cup but it beats an empty trophy cabinet.
Rodri is not a humble person, bit he is right. Arsenal lost the league because they played for a draw against city
@krisxchirbas9503 do you actually believe what you are saying ir are you just trolling.
How much do u pay for your Arsenal season ticket to cry every season?
Rodri said that they would do it differently, and he's correct. City go to win every game.
Wait, did I miss ManCity beating Arsenal in the league this season?
No you missed man city winning the league 😂
Last 3 or 4 games they haven't won 115
You must have missed City finishing ABOVE Arsenal in the final PL standings though 😂😂
It's easy for Rodri to make this sort of comment after the fact. You're champions already.
Just as Gab said, none of this would have mattered if Son took his chances.
If we're going by that Logic, they would be in the UCL final right now. Madrid played for a draw and piped them on penalties. I didn't hear him making the same assessments.
Lol he actually said exact same thing after the Madrid match
Exactly! We could have said it was down to mentality that City didn't beat Real Madrid at the Bernabue coe they were in the lead before Madrid equalised the game 3-3.
no penalties on PL and you count on other team to beat city? instead of taking chances and trying to beat them?
If Rodri thinks they have the mentality they should have won the game at home against Arsenal. He is so salty because Arsenal stifled their team and they could not get a win. Haaland took a long time to come out of Gabriel's pocket. He can not stand the fact that they could not get a win against AFC in the whole season. In fact, Arsenal had 2 wins - one at home and in the community shield game. He expects every other team to open up and allow them to win. Keep being salty, Rodri. I heard he made the same comments about Real Madrid and Switzerland in their match against Spain. You have the right to be arrogant, but you have no right to comment on another team's mentality, without actually being an insider. So, shut up.
@@meeram7447 dont think he's salty for a team that won nothing this season lol...
Kieran Gibbs,..once a gooner,always a champion...😊
Gooner and champion are mutually exclusive terms
@@krisxchirbas9503 And your address is?..🤬
Liverpool played for the win against City like Craig said, and they still finished 3rd. Arsenal weren't the only team that drew that day, City did. For me that period in Dec was the difference, you can't lose to West Ham, Fulham and expect to win the league
This is ridiculous. Gabb is correct, and they don't need a striker.
Well said Marcotti... If Arteta gambled and lost, the same people would be saying he's naif... What do they need to do? Win all 38 games?
I think rodri never forget that game.
Because this season they cannot beat us like past year.😂
He is champion but he got pain .😂
You must be trolling
@@gazagovana3291 I'm an Arsenal but he is definitely coping no doubt
The only pain is the one that Arsenal fans carry with them for 20 years.
The worse City team of the past years vs the best Arsenal team of the last years and you lot still could NOT win anything…
Embarrassing
@@user-tb3vg1dy8dThis "worst City team" would dog walk most of the Premier League and give RM a shot at their money. But hey, if you want to downplay Arsenal do your thing lol.
@@zamnster9158 oh I agree with you about the quality of City and I am not even a City fan.
All I was trying to say is that this has been the strongest Arsenal of the past 3 years vs the weakest City of the past 3 season… and Arsenal still could NOT win the PL.
Not downplaying Arsenal but stating some FACTS.
Arsenal had a good season but won ZERO TROPHIES.
We all know that city had a relatively weak summer window and that this summer they will strengthen their squad.
I look at the Villa game as the points dropped, not the City game.
A draw against the best team in England and one of the top 3 teams in the world this season was the wisest approach. Expecting a win on the home turf is a foolish approach. The issue was losing against Aston Villa 2-0 the following month which kills the whole strategy otherwise y'all would be praise Arteta strategic brilliance instead of trash talking him. Funny enough the biggest dent to Arsenal losing the league was losing to Fulham on the last day of December 2-1. That is when I predicted Arsenal not winning the league.
If you're a small team that doesn't believe you can win the title.
Arsenal can beat city any time and vise versa.
Just look how the demolished Liverpool. They should have played for the win
Maybe if you're a small team. I wouldn't want you on my team. You sound like a quitter.
@@phillipkleopas7230 in the FA cup?
@@krisxchirbas9503 If you were a coach you would be a terrible coach. Your style of coaching would probably be similar to Tottenham coach. All out attack regardless of who your opponent is. Look where that got him.
The point at City allowed Arsenal to have a point ahead of City and the league in our hands. The villa loss created this 2 point gap .
Correct me if I'm wrong. In the two games v City, City had TWO shots on target. So how does this make sense??!
Reality is they could’ve won that game regardless, this narrative Arsenal weren’t trying to win was nonsense, they simply employed more closed tactics in order to exploit City whilst maintaining their defence, example: Trossard squares that ball to Martinelli on the counter rather than waiting & Martinelli scores & Arsenal win the game entirely, Arsenal created more clear chances in that game than they did
Didn't know there was set rules on how to play a football match
TO THINK YOU GUYS WOULD KNOW FOOTBALL BY NOW, ESPN NEED TO GET A BETTER PANEL
But the mentality of Arsenal to play by the rules is why they don't have 115 charges against them, risking everything they've built. And that's why they've never been relegated while you were in League 2 just 20 years ago. And that's why they still and may always have the ONLY Golden Trophy for winning the PL. Face it Rodri...even with this financially-aided dominance, you still can't go undefeated Lil Bro.
Arsenal don't play by the rules lol. They outspend every other team in the English football pyramid the last 5 years. Their cbs are infamously dirty. They lack sportsmanship. They dive. Arsenal are not good representatives of the beautiful game.
@@krisxchirbas9503 Nobody cares about your opinion. No they haven't spent more in the last 5 years, no their CBs aren't infamously dirty....you're literally just making things up to make yourself feel better.
😂😂😂 every team spends money pal
@@krisxchirbas9503blah blah blah
Lol, get back in ya bin ya septic bacon boy and stop scaring and embarrassing your own kids ya front wheel salad!
Face it bacon, even your family hate you and will never forgive you for your horrendous and callous crimes
A one off match away at City didn't cost Arsenal the title. There's 38 matches. Arsenal got 4 out of 6 pts against City. The losses against Villa and West Ham cost them the league but ok, run with this draw against City. Absolute clowns.
But it did
Rodri arrogance will backfire next year and in the euros
How will it backfire in th euros? Spain aren't good. Nobody expects them to do anything.
So speaking the truth is arrogance?
@@phillipkleopas7230 no being a tool is arrogance. especially when you are pampered by playing on an oil money team currently under indictment that no one could legally replicate that would make anyone better and you pretend like you're god's gift to football
Rodri is arrogant but he is speaking the truth. Arsenal were cowardly playing for a draw.
There is nothing arrogant about that
There was element of luck that fatal week.
Arsenal played Munich - Villa - Munich
City played RM - Luton - RM
IF THE luton game was Spurs , it would be very different story.
not luck that's the consequences of CL fixtures.. gotta endure it if you want to play in europe
City have period of fighting ars, MU and liverpool. After they lose out against madrid on OT they still play chelsea on semi-FA cup and show up
@@hindra1996Wtf you talking about. Citeh was horrible against Chelsea in the fa cup. Absolutely shoulda lost the game by 3 or 4 if Nico Jackson didn't waste all those 1 v 1 chances 🤦
@@ikeman9784 i know but in the end they get the W. City was not superb either in the CL last season but they get the job done.
Point is the fixture is out of our hand, the team gotta do what they gotta do... i was saying even after playing 120 mins and knocked out, ciity stil gritting their teeth and getting back the win
@@hindra1996 I agree. The Everyone had to do what they gotta do but you can't deny an element of luck with the citeh schedule. Especially how they premier league decided to move the spurs game to the end of the season knowing fully well the scenario that unfolded was a possibility. Mind you spurs had 2 weeks off before they played arsenal and citeh got knocked out champs league so that game should've been scheduled somewhere in there 🤦
I think they are missing the point.. He criticized the mentality of wanting a draw not the actually result of arsenal getting the draw... If they went in wanting to win but got a draw.. That's a different mentality of champions
Rodri speak as an experienced serial winner where Ars players are still young n learning. They r at the beginning of the journey. I hope no ars players will speak like himif they ever reach his level eventually.
It was that Fulham game. That was it. Then we go to the VAR controversy
Rodri is stupid and angry for saying that simply cause we didn’t play into their hands and we took a whole 4points out of them
This muppet just called one of the best footballers stupid and angry 😂😂
You just described the Arsenal fan base after winning ZERO TROPHIES AGAIN!!!😂😂😂
haha the analysis of our entire season is "should have won at city." love espn
So Arsenal played only City in the league then?
Had Arsenal opened up and lost the same people would have called Arsenal naive and stupid. Remember that City play Arsenal only twice- losing one and drawing one while being at home and being the champions.
Give Arsenal a break. So why did City came to Arsenal and didn’t even win and was playing for a draw?
Arsenal took 4 out of 6 points is to be commended.
Have you ever seen City going to Anfield and playing for draw and the last 8 years? They have always gone for the win and lost and still won the league, lol.
Arsenal s last and best chance of winning a poor league this year. To beat city you need to get ninety points plus. They could not do it and with rivals catching up next year never will. In fact they won absolutely nothing this year or last.
@@petersmith-yg7meeverybody is gonna catch up. Man Utd, Chelsea, Tottenham, Villa, Newcastle are all gonna be world beaters 🙄
@@dre8463yet Arsenal will win NOTHING again 😂
@user-tb3vg1dy8d and that's fine 🙂 I'll still be an Arsenal fan: win, lose or draw.
In that away match at Manchester City, Trossard should’ve squared it to Martinelli. That was the chance right at the end of the game where it would’ve changed everything. Score that chance, take that chance and no one is bad mouthing the tactics that day.
Arteta's tactics against Villa at home were far more costly to our title charge. He gambled with an aggressive line up and we didn't score.
Arsenal got 1 point from Fulham and 0 from Villa but we’re talking about City who we got 4 points against. They havent beat us all season. We did our job in that regard.
3-1 y'all got this season stop lieing 😂😂😂
No risk no reward. I think Rodri and Craig are spot on. People can praise Arsenal because they got 89 pts and 4 pts playing Man City, but they don’t understand that City is a monster that will come back to bite you if you don’t go for it.
Match was played after a 2 week international break , and Arsenal had chances , 115
Arsenal did a job. Not one person who isn't an Arsenal fan believed Arsenal would go all the way. Im gutted we were there. Hindsight vision is 20/20 and i hope that insight will help us go again and improve until we ACTUALLY win something more tangible than improvement. Deserving it kwont matter next season. However, im happy we're in the conversations
Difference is yes City drew and lost a lot of top 6 games this season. They went at them and it was either because of unluck or just getting outclassed on the day that they dropped points. Arsenal played to not lose in the middle of the season.
Why didn't his team then win. Rodri is angry that arsenal is closing that gap. Again he's is playing in a club charged with 115 charges. Nonsense.
While I agree with everyone that getting a Draw is not the worst thing and not what cost us the title. But Rodri is alluding to is the psychological effect of beating your contender in the run-in, it demoralises them and gives you an mental edge. In essence Rodri is saying the City players walked away from that draw believing Arsenal are better then them this season and it propelled them to win every match and prove indeed they are better then Arsenal.
What a load of rubbish. We beat them already 2x before that.. There's no result in that game that would demoralize a well coached & experience side like citeh. This narrative is just plain ol foolish. Your opponents job is not to make the game easy for you. Citeh had 2 shots on target across 180m of football against arsenal. Sounds like we did a fine job on the best attacking team in a generation 🤦
Manchester United, Chelsea, and Tottenham Hotspur are not qualified to play in the UEFA Champions League next season. Yet, they have the audacity to make fun of Arsenal. What a strange world!
Craig talking about “not looking back on results in September or October” without realizing that now you really do have to look back that far because when you have the kind of form Arsenal had between January and the end of the season and it not be enough, you have to look at the entire season as a whole not just pick and chose the most recent results because they’re the easiest to use in debates like this. Personally, of the 10 games Arsenal dropped points in, the draw at City is the literal bottom of my list.
ESPN spend more time talking about the runners up.
He's spot on. Don't forget they didn't reach 90 points. Are others saying they're simply not good enough? That's not what Rodri says, he says they have the ability just not the mentality.
When Arsenal playes City,Arsenal were 1 or 2 points ahead of City.
Arsenal held them tight and at the end got a chance or 2 to win the game..
We beat them at the Emirates, took 4 out of 6 points. That's a great result against City. At the time of the City game, it was vital we didn't drop any points as we were ahead. Why is there no context and research when talking about the reaction to Rodri's statement?
Arsenal lives rent free in other fans' heads. Liverpool spent way more days top of the league, yet no one's talking about their bottle job. Chelsea spent a billion and got battered everywhere they went. Spurs fans celebrated missing out on CL and embarrassed the manager. United...well you know. I'll take banter from City but the rest, have some shame lol. Villa can be proud too.
Same applies to Man City, when Arsenal were 1 goal up at the Emirates and City were desperate for a draw to avoid dropping points.
I understand what Rodri meant. Arsenal playing for a draw clearly points out to City that Arsenal KNOW they aren't better than them. When City battled with Liverpool, Liverpool went head to head with them
And lost every single time! If he showed more tactical nouse like arteta did maybe they would have won more than 1 title in 10 years🤷🏾♂️
@@kerrsempz6991not rly get what is being said man city were comfortable coming to the end of the season despite arsenal being behind them they were not scared with Liverpool vs man city titles city knew that they couldn’t slip up they felt more pressure Liverpool lost the league with 97 points ppl for get that and 92 Arsenal have not hit 90 points as yet I feel for them to win it Arsenal that is they need to make city feel pressure and they haven’t done that in 2 seasons city were more worried about Liverpool than Arsenal and when Liverpool bottled it they knew man city knew it was there title to lose and it had nothing to do with arsenal because they just knew arsenal doesn’t have that edge on them
@@dontlookhere12314 that doesn't make sense! How can they not feel pressure from arsenal if they knew they had to win their last 9 games in a row or they wouldn't win it
@@kerrsempz6991 because of what I just said Rodri said it they DID NOT FEAR ARSENAL THEY KNEW THEY WOULD STUMBLE THEY knew they didn’t have what it takes it’s like a boxer if a boxer is visibly hurt in the ring and his opponent doesn’t attempt to attack to finish the fight when the hurt boxer recovers he has confidence to win this fight because he knows his opponent fears him when arsenal parked the bus away at city city were like ohhh you guys fear us and that gave city confidence
Spurs and Chelsea draw are more crucial. People like you are morons who don’t know football
I wish we could get Dejong from Barcelona to Arsenal he would be good with Odegard and rice
why are they talking about arsenal drawing to city like they didn't lose to aston villa, or earlier losses. Gab and kieran are the only ones making sense
Lets go back to the tape! At the time, Craig, Shaka, and others said a draw against City was a good result for Arsenal. The revisionism is unreal. If Rodri hadn't said what he said, this wouldn't even be a talking point. I agree with Gab that this is all hot air after the fact.
As a Liverpool fan, Arsenal lost the league with dropping points in December period against villa away , Newcastle , Fulham and west ham .. the draw a lot in December period .. they have the best record this season among all the big 6.. Liverpool as well attacked them in 18/19 season 2-1at ethihad when we went all attack .. Arsenal were sound against big teams .. Rodri is just caught in the moment after being champions .. in my humble opinion , the rest of the league don’t have the courage or quality with city .. they have extra motive /hate down the history which makes Arsenal/Liverpool a lil tougher compared to city where Arsenal play with all London rivals as everyone knows how much incentive utd,London rivals and other teams have history against them .just look at utd fans/former players how they bend over to city both home and away..
What is relevant is that Arsenal took 4 points from City who are still the better team. That's the reality and improvement over last season. As an Arsenal fan I would sign off on 4 points from City again next season. We lost the league in other games - Villa home and away, Westham, Fulham etc
We took 4 points off City. Drawing against City isnt what lost us the league. It's losing 6 points against Villa... Rodri was feeling himself when he said that.
And as for signings, what do these guys know? I think we've learnt that Arteta takes his signings very seriously no matter how strange they may seem
Is Gab on the sauce? Arsenal finished second (lol) to City in goals scored -- and tied on goal difference. 😏
You know that wasn’t the case till two games ago.
@@yao052 you do know that this was recorded today after the season had ended?
Arsenal just need to build a 12 points lead going into April next year
Everyone is missing Rodris point, especially Gab. He didnt say the result was bad. He said the mentality was bad. Saying "City didnt win every game against top 6" doesnt adress his argument. City went to win all those games, thats the difference. Arsenal showed they were scared of playing against City and that gave City more confidence.
He's trolling, nothing more, nothing less.
Exactly
lol "city want to win all those games" so now we have to take him at his word as to city's intentions AND arsenal's intentions? arsenal beat them and trossard missed a rare sitter to beat them at the etihad. city also should have at least two maybe three more games with points dropped when you consider offsides not called on deciding goals and things like literally kicking someone with your cleats in the chest in the penalty box and no pen called as against liverpool. it's hilarious to ignore all that, and the 115, and be all high and mighty like "oh yes it's us and our 'winning mentality'" lol no wonder braindead people from the US and saudi love this team so much and those 20 people are their entire "fanbase"
@astrothelad sorry, but no one's reading your essay. Arsenal set themselves up for a draw at the etihad. They played cowardly. Rodri is right
@@krisxchirbas9503 Which is it? City is amazing with their 14-5-0 home record? Or Arsenal is cowardly? You can't have it both ways bud. 4/6 points against City, AND the Community Shield. 2-1-0 in head-to-head matchups this year. Face it, Arsenal is the better team.
NOBODY on any team with 115 charges should have a say...clear up your charges first Mancheater city
the truth hurts...
Don’t worry they will
Hindsight is 20/20. Easy for these clowns to question the draw well after the fact. Had Arsenal played expansively and lost, how much you want to bet they would be criticizing them for 'rolling the dice.' instead of playing it safe. Marcotti actually makes the key point. If Son buries the chance (which he generally does the vast majority of the time), Arteta looks like a genius.
🌟 Worst part of it all is City made Arsenal fanbase twerk shamelessly for their Direct arch rivals on their way to the title ... THE MOST EMBARRASSING thing to have ever happened in English Football 💯 ..
More embarrassing than wanting your team to lose in order to stop your rivals? Get a grip
No one twerked for anyone. Everyone hopes for direct rivals to drop points. No one hates their rivals more than they love their team except if you're Spurs 😂
@@emekadibia7246 you twerked for Spurs with mixed badges and wearing Spurs shirts. Shameless cowards
No, the most embarrassing thing to happen to English football is the league allowing City to rewrite the record books with 4 league titles despite having done so on the back of 115 unpunished charges, while quickly doling out punishments to other sides.
GABS ALWAYS SENSIBLE
I’m a Arsenal fan and Rodri is spot on
And if Arsenal lost that game these same pundits would be saying "if you can't win, make sure you don't lose"
Arsenal took 4 points off City and Liverpool. Unbeaten against the traditional Top 6. The 115FC won because of that Newcastle and Villa robbery against Arsenal even if we ignore how the referees have favoured them throughout. The Liverpool game and the McAllister pen comes to my mind.
This is absolutely ridiculous to even suggest that Arsenal draw at the Etihad was a mistake. Last season they were also fighting for the title and they lost 4-1 and we all saw that it could have been 6 or 7. Arsenal were brilliant, but they have to be more consistent against teams from the bottom of the table. It's as easy as it gets. City this season struggled hugely to win against top 6 teams and to balance their defensive transition (much much stronger at the end of the season).
The context is Arsenal had always lose to City home and away for more than 5 seasons back-to-back and Arsenal had already taken 3 points from the City before the match. City wanted the 3 points more at the Etihad and it was like a victory for Arsenal taking away a point from the Etihad.
The Villa game at the Emirate costed Arsenal not the City game at the Etihad.
City gained quite a few points this season from rather suspect VAR decisions and the same can't be said for Arsenal.
Kieran is an Arsenal fan with Spurs mentality
City came to the Emirates and didn't try to beat Arsenal either. I agree with Gibbsy, Villa was the defining match. If you are gonna win the league against this City team, you can't afford to lose 5 games. The teams had the same number of wins but the losses went against Arsenal.
08 Oct 2023 arsenal 1 vs 0 man city - city had 1 shot on target, what was the mentality then?
31 Mar Man city 0 - 0 arsenal - still city had 1 shot on target, what was city mentality at their own home?
no one is talking about arsenal newcastle nor the city vs liverpool game
The game vs City was a 50:50 game and getting a draw is not bad. Rodri should just celebrate his medal and stop talking about other team mentality
Pundits seem to forget Arsenal played city with the same tactics twice before in this season and won. To say they were out for a draw itself is fallacy.
In the long-run, the draw at the Etihad will go down as a turning point in the psychology of the Gunners. Better than throwing caution to the wind and getting battered. Trust the process!!!
The hindsight analysis of arsenal game plan at Etihad is absolutely ridiculous. Afc was praised as the time for gaining a point. The dislike or subtle hatred is obvious. There are more key games like villa and Westham at Emirate that probably decided the season and not Etihad game. The beef and bias is just unfair.
Craig is right but the fact is that Arsenal would have lost the cup already. Flip side would have been fans didn't have to bear the tension for that long.
it's absurd to think that this is what lost us the league when we lost games like West Ham at home and only took 1/6 points vs Fullham. THAT'S what lost us the league, not the City game.
It is pathetic to hear the very same people who in 2022-23 season said Arsenal lost because they couldn't take points on City and the other top 4 teams, fast forward 2024, and here they are insinuating that Arsenal lost the league at City. Are sure Arsenal was supposed to run rampant against City at Etihad?. No wonder you guys are not managers but pundits. Arsenal lost it against the lesser teams they faced
mainly in the first round of the league, minimize the hate and be factual.
People are forgetting that the draw put us in the position to control our destiny. Villa game was the game we lost it
That is all nonsense. Arsenal had more VAR decissions against than ManCity. That could have been the difference. Arteta needed to rest Saka the game before Aston Villa and Saliba nad Gabriel and Rice. That is the problem with Arteta needs to rotate the team more. Having to play Aston villa after a champions league midweek game was the difference.
Arsenal's goal for next season : to beat A Villa home & away. And to go for London parade.
Very silly from Rodri because i'm pretty sure he didn't call out Real Madrid for parking 5 buses not just one
Rodri talking about mentality is laughable after he got himself sent off against Nottingham Forest for acting like a petulant child.
Arsenal got 4/6 points from city so tell me how that etihad game decided it …..
Arsenal had a fantastic season, but you don't beat this City team with less than 90 points, bottom line.
If VAR had done its job correctly in just 1 of the numerous games they misjudged against Arsenal. No one can be saying such rubbish. No one is ready for the discussion.
We beat them at home. Didnt eed to beat them away. The games that lost us the league fulham at home, west ham at home, newcastle away, villa away. In two of those games the ball was out when the first goal was scored.
Apparently City came to to the Emirates to lose earlier in the season. I guess that's the correct approach since they won the title
Sad, people would talk about the Etihad game this way. Arsenal wanted to win, but on the break. A shame that the outlet was Trossard on the left in the absence of Martinelli. The chance we had were crying for a martinelli. Trossard lacking pace hurt us.
As well, it came at the business end of the season, losing would have been hard to recover the points.
I guarantee you, if that game was at the Etihad in September, October, Arsenal would have had a different approach. If the outcome would be different is another thing 🤷♀️
Lol. It's absurd that this is even a discussion. Arsenal didn't lose the league at the dropped points at the Etihad... It was lost at all the other lower teams we lost or drew... Especially at home
Parking the bus at city is giving up the title race
Madrid used same tactics to get them out of the Champions league Arsenal lacked finishing of two chases they got from Jesus and Trosad.but 4 points from City are enough.
Move Gabriel Jesus to RW to compete with Saka. At this point he needs to do what is needed and not be mad that he isn't a 9 in England. Havertz can continue to be the 9. Full season out of him there should net 30 goal involvements. We can buy a young promising striker while either Martinelli or Trossard can be backup 9, or both but I feel like 1 of them will have to move on. Partey needs to be replaced. Wouldn't hurt to get another LB, just in case.
Rodri is absolutely right .... a point at the Etihad early season is a great result .... a point at the Etihad in a title run in is NOT a great result, and especially when its City who are your title rivals!
That blocke only said that after the last game.
What a bunch of jokers for analysts. Got 4/6 points against City who never took the attack to us at the Emirates but sure it was Arsenal who were timid