I love my Bobber Black. Every meet I get lots of ppl asking me about it, and just loving it. Sounds great, brakes great, maneuverable at low speed, I can steer it with my knees at higher speed it's easy to maneuver IMO, and so much more awesomeness. Only thing I can see ppl not liking is comfort, and luggage capacity. Im 270lbs 6FT I find its not too bad for comfort 90% of the time. If you wanted comfort why did you get a Bobber IMO. Also the ability to bring stuff with you, again why would you get a Bobber for touring. If you want a great custom looking bike without the headaches how could you not get a Triumph Bobber Black.
And how disappointed are "the ppl' when they find out you didn't build a unique bike yourself, in your South London garage, but instead bought a pastiche, made on a production line in Thailand?
@@dave6467 no one cuz ppl where I live aren't weak losers who think like that. They love bikes regardless. Bikes are bikes. Custom built, hand built, Thailand built, Henckley built, doesn't matter. Difference is mine has a warranty, so what lol. Everyone I meet loves it, thats all there is. Cheers for the weird RUclips comment.
LOL, thanks Doc', a rather predictable reply. The reality is, as all other bikers know, is it's a complete fake. From its fake 'rear sprung hub', fake 'hardtail', fake 'points cover', fake 'carbs', fake 'Smiths speedo' and, worst of all fake 'Bobber pretence. A Bobber is supposed to reflect the individuality of the owner/builder. It should reflect the owner's style, engineering skills, vision, etc. You and the other owners of these bikes want people to look at you and think "wow, where did they get the inspiration from?" The reality, as the rest of the motorcycling community knows, is that it's identical to the thousands of other 'Bobbers' coming off Triumph's production line. There's nothing real or individual about it and that totally destroys the whole ethos and concept of what a Bobber actually is. So, sorry, but I stand by my comment. The only people fooled by it are the elderly, kids, and the people who parted with their money, for a mass produced bike from the Far East, pretending to be something it's not
I'm considering getting one however have heard it being advised to also get the Fox shock and a better seat (more padding/softer cushion) to get rid of the issues with feeling every single crack in the road.
For a big heavy lump of metal, a single 2-pot Nissin really isn’t enough. I believe the brembo on the new version is better but not exactly MotoGP brakes
Spot on review. I have had a bobber black for the past 7 months and love it. It has had a few minor mods just waiting for a British customs rear light to go in production. The brakes in my opinion still need sharpening up. Rumour has it the bobber for 2020 is getting an update.
Yeah I saw the press shots on MCN. Looks like a TFC to me though. I think the master cylinders are poor on the brakes across the range, which is why the callipers haven’t fully solved the problem
They will definitely improve this bike next year. Its their best selling bike! Maybe a bobber tfc? If not at least improved suspension, brakes and 100+ hp.
Great video as usual, Rob. I was fortunate enough to borrow a Bobber for the day a few weeks back, I was surprised how much I enjoyed it. Pulls like a damn train too!
That's a fair summary! Although can't compete with the pulling power of the fat bob. Which in turn won't compete with the rocket. Cannot wait to ride one...
I just bought a new 2018 triumph bonneville bobber black...I absolutely love it....been riding for 40 years...this bike put the fun back in riding for me anyways..i also have a 2016 harley road king which is like driving a tank compared to the bobber...great for just riding about when you dont plan on going far...i get tons of looks when im out riding with my harley buddies...stripped down old school basic ride...love it...RONALD DOUGLAS...just realized its my wifes youtube account...lol
I test rode one of these. Was awesome, but I went for the Thruxton R. More comfortable seating position for me. And a bigger fuel tank. And I think it's even prettier!
A great short review. Thanks. I have the Speedmaster (just over 12 months) and there are lots of shared qualities AND faults with these bikes. Of course there’s becoming quite a range of specialist (non Triumph) add-ons available for customising. A guy called Stuart Fillingham on UT deals extensively with these for the Bonneville Triumph range; all very interesting but can be relatively expensive. The suspension is hard and I’m not sure what’s available to help with that. The key thing is the low travel range on the suspension; I bottom out regularly on “B” and side roads, which can spoil the ride. You do have to adjust the riding style a little on sweeping bends and reverse camber roundabouts otherwise the pegs ground out very easily. Servicing and simple chain maintenance can be a chore as there’s no centre stand combined with the very low attachment point for bobbins make the choice of paddock stand a specialist undertaking!! The looks of this and the Speedmaster are great (IMO) but the way the wiring loom is attached by rubber bands to the bars at the front of the bike seems like a short term solution. I also think that both bikes would have looked better with twin clocks like the Thruxton or the new Twin? The single clock is a bit cheap n nasty. BUT even given the above, these are really great and fun bikes that, as you say turn heads wherever you go. Another (but smaller Bobber) to look at is the new CCM Bobber that the guys in Bolton are bringing to us anytime soon. My deposit is down with delivery in the next 12 months!! Hope the above is useful. On re-reading the above, it looks a bit negative. It’s not. The engine is so much fun with plenty of real world grunt and I will never give up my Speedmaster! Yours aye, Alan
Thanks for the info Alan! I had wondered whether an improved rear shock would address the comfort. It’s interesting that the speedmaster suffers the same as the bobber - you can excuse the Bobber Black for being a bit firm as it’s meant to be a bike that handles well, but surely the speedmaster is all about a plush ride. I’d still like to try one out some day though!
Think you should mention servicing costs on your reviews , after all it is a big thing to consider when purchasing a motorcycle . Good review though Bob.
I did test ride one about 8 months ago. The one I rode had Ape bars on it lol . Was ok . Like I said to you before , is one hell of a sexy looking bike, but for me it kinda felt small like a 125 . Obviously not power wise . The engine is great on it, but I feel I made the right choice with my street twin . As always , great vid man 👍👍👍
Cheers LB! Interesting that it felt small to you - felt the opposite getting off the ST and straight onto the bobber. But it’s different for everyone..
Did the same! Definitely better... but still doesn't feel great vs. other bikes that I test ride. Not many bikes that weigh 230kg+ come with a single 2-pot nowadays... love the ST but it's a definite weak spot.
I’ve recently won one a 19 plate bobber! The sound when you wind her on is epic! 3rd into 4th and she’s like a wee rocket! Only thing I’m finding hard to adjust to is getting my feet comfortable on the pegs. Only done about 80 miles on it since I’ve had it but switching between the bobber and the mt09 gets some getting used to.
Yes thank you! Not been riding for a while and in the market for a new bike... it’s a toss up between the Speed Twin, the Speedmaster, Bobber, or T120... I have fairly specific ideas so just looking at all the older vids in these and newer ones like yours! Thanks for the excellent descriptions! I wouldn’t be able to think of all those different bits in one ride! Nice.
re 11:35 and the winds . Yeah I got out on the bike on Saturday, my first time in windy weather. It scared the life out of me ! 60mph "A" road at about 40 MPH, and avoiding dual carriageways altogether .
@@motobob I've never tried a pedal bike in really windy conditions, so yeah, don't think I ever will ! I never rode the 126Kg CB125R in as windy conditions as Saturday, as I recall that could get a bit wobbly in slight wind at the just over 65MPH I could get out of it, so it would have been even worse on that as compared to a 200Kg Triumph.
Awesome! But I wonder how she handles in the farmland/country roads. The city (stop and go) riding experience seems rather enjoyable. How about the ups and downs, long bends, tempting straight-aways, and twisty/curvy roads that need better signs to illustrate them. Not really about "racing". But at enjoyable speeds where the machine is also comfortably handling the workload.
Samson Moore I live in Kent and own one of these... it's in its element on faster A & B country roads. I always find myself looking back at it after a ride, thinking how it has now business handling as well as it does given that it looks like it's from the late 40's.
Hi there... enjoyed the vid! I have recently bought one...love it too, mines had the Vance and Hines exhaust dealer upgrade fitted...sounds awesome, although £750 a lot of money....overall a superb bike all round
Darnnit! Now you made me want to go & ride the thing which means I'm probably going to want it....thanks, nice review, ride safe - Cape Town, South Africa
Is like to see this done as a 650 instead of a 1200. My favorite road is the Cherohala Skyway. It’s 59 miles long. Not sure this could make it to the end with its 4000’ climb. My YT icon is a 500 BSA Gold Star with a rigid rear. It was a great scoot and this could be all that that bike was but for range. And what about Triumph’s triple 650? Screaming engine with loads of fun packed in there
I like virtually all the Triumph classics, if I had the money and space maybe a more laid back T120 to complement my Speed Twin. Possibly even a Thruxton, but I'm kinda thinking the Speed Twin with a different seat and some adjustable suspension could do most of what the Thruxton does. Seconds to change a seat over, and a little bit longer tinkering with suspension. Which leads me to that the Bobber is about the only one they'll never sell me on, even with potentially limitless amounts of cash. I guess I just don't get the cruiser position , and no back seat. With limitless cash I'd be more likely to buy the insanely silly 2.5 litre Rocket as compared to a Bobber , just because the Rocket is a bit silly. (still need to buy the lottery ticket !) But I guess some people like Bobbers because otherwise they wouldn't make them :) Plus it'd be boring if we all rode around on exactly the same bike ...
Hey Scott! I’ve been trying to get a hold of a speedmaster but triumph don’t have one in their press fleet. Seems like it would address a lot of the shortcomings of the bobber though!
Thanks for the reply - hopefully they add to the press release pool. I’ve been looking at Triumph (bobber or speedmaster) and Indian (scouts) as my first bike. I would use as weekend / night cruiser (never for daily work). Interested in any recommendations. Thanks again!
Lol I bet the Bobber stops way better than my VT750 Shadow! 250kg, single disc at the front, drum rear....the rule is: use both brakes all the time every time. Good bleedin job there's only 45bhp.
Probably one of the best looking bikes out there imo.. However I'd just never get one due to the lack of carrying a pillion. Even if they had a relatively uncomfortable option for a pillion just to go for a short ride, I'd get it however no option at all is a deal breaker for me.
Seen many reviews, not ridden one. Main cons seem to be the tank is too small and that the pegs touch down too easily. I don't like the broad flat bars. Saw some Z bars on a Sportster that I'd love to try on a bike like that.
In the end I went for a Speed Twin (which is awesome no doubts), what put me off the Bobber, which I did consider, was the fact that every review video I watched showed peg scraping! So it handles, they say, but is it too low for swinging round country lanes? My Speed Twin was cheaper too, of course . . . . .
I considered the speed twin as well. I see the speed twin as the better performer and more practical, but oh boy the looks of the bobber just over rode all logical. Can't go wrong with either. I am coming from a cbr600rr, so far in city driving haven't had peg problems yet.
Hope you don't mind me asking on an 'old' video, would love to get the Bobber 2021 model but a bit worried about peg scraping. I'm used to a Z900RS and love that bike, but would love something more 'classy' and 'laid back' for trips with my Harley-friends.
I used to do a lot of running and cycling, so you get to know the streets really quickly. But I’m sure there are still plenty of areas where I’d get lost!
I love my T120 have tricked it up a bit but the brakes are terrible, as you mentioned wooden and not confidence inspiring at all, I wonder if the brembos are a touch better than standard and would fit the T120 🤔
I think it's to do with the master cylinder tbh. The brembos are better but it's not exactly night and day. There's enough stopping power, but I agree the feel could be better.
Hello Bob, liked the review. Lived in California, sold house and Moved way down in Mexico. I like the looks of this bike. We all know after 160km it’s all about the comfort. Other than turn signals a Fat Boy (ish) size headlamp would be good. I saw one for sale in the states with 3,500 mi for around $10 is there possibly floor board swap outs? Spooky for me seeing you on the left side ☠️
MOTOBOB thanks. It is my first bike so I have no point of reference to stage your comments about wooden brakes. I’d like to understand better though. Appreciate it.
It does look amazing. Looks better without someone sat on it though 😐 a rider kinda spoils the lines of it 😬 I'd love one and that's why I didn't test ride one as riding a sportster made me miserable for 10 years because I couldn't afford one 😅 no rear seat puts me off a bit too. Should have had a pull out one (like the harley rocker c had i think) . And it would be a crime to not get louder pipes!
@@motobob maybe. It's kinda the feeling I got when I had a kawasaki EN 500 chop. It looked awesome when I stood looking at it but when I saw myself in shop windows I looked like a gorilla on a unicycle 😅 I think I'd put apes on a bobber and then the rider doesn't look as perched on top like the flat bars version. Obviously personal opinion is very subjective!
500 currently on the road in the UK as opposed to 1,100 base Bobbers. For reference, 1,900 Street Twins, 1,100 Street Scramblers and about 1,400 Thruxtons with the R and regular model combined. So I'm not sure whether 500 is good or bad really? Combined with the 1,100 base Bobbers, it seems like par for the course?
Its my understanding its the best selling bike they've had in their history. Where did you hear it wasn't selling? As far as I've read, and heard its the complete opposite.
This bike is awesome. Classic but brave design and fantastic fit and finishing. The price is ridiculous, outrageous and only for rich guys. I own a XSR 900 and it is more nimble, incredible engine, fantastic quality, design... and costs 4.000€ less.
Call me stupid, but the size of the calipers are too bloody small. I have a 2010, yes 2010!! Vfr12000f that has six pot calipers, and I can stop that bike with one finger from any speed. Frankly Triumph and many other manufacturers need to lift their game. These bikes are not cheap and beyond abs and traction control make sure your bikes can actually stop beyond "adequately"... your putting riders lives at stake.
This is pretty much my thinking. The only options I consider are trackers, alarms , some "crash" / "dresser" bars, fly screen and luggage options. I almost considered the tyre pressure warning system, but at £220 for the Triumph one, it seemed a bit steep. It does nicely integrate with the clocks on the Speed Twin, unlike tacky after market ones. So I'm pondering this one. Heated grips ? Probably no. Heated gloves look a more flexible option because they'll work on another bike. I'm only into useful or security related extras. If a bike needs more power or braking, best to choose a different bike that does what you want. Engine, performance and braking mods just look way too expensive, and you'll never get anywhere near the money back if you come to trade it in. The faster better braking bike would hold more of it's value for this part as compared to tweaking a lower performing bike. That's not even thinking about insurance who seem to run a mile or ask for silly increases in premiums because of performance mods. All the tarting around with embellished, logo-ised, clutch badges, bullet indicators, and Triumph logo tank bags, and other trinkets just look like a rip off. About the only reason for buying a Triumph top box was it could be keyed to the ignition key, so one less key, but at a price premium. I'm finding the exhausts on my Speed Twin loud enough and sound good to me. I'm not keen on the blacked out section, but it doesn't bother me enough to want to spend £600. Maybe if I become deaf after years of riding without ear plugs , I'll need a louder exhaust pipe, just for me to hear it :-D
just change the calipers. It's crazy ppl whining about the shitty brakes and making other unfunctional modifications which are only for aesthetics . Just buy a bigger caliper....
Try installing EBC sintered pads for a brake upgrade for your Street Twin. Probably 20-25% more power and better feel. ruclips.net/video/snWJ-upKTbc/видео.html
I like Indian Scout for same money more TQ HP plus can carry something.In real life bobber looks minuscule almost toy like...same reason why I dislike Ducati cheap scambler line.They all look like toys
The Bobber is a weekend bike. Period. You might get the odd chap that thinks he's hardcore by riding it on his 10 mile daily commute but it's just not that kind of bike. It's posey and we all know it! I rode it and enjoyed it a lot but the tank is too small and after a couple of hours it's too uncomfortable. Triumph dealers and ESPECIALLY their customer service is shite. It's a price we sometimes have to accept for ownership of their 'classic' bikes.
Bob, I've been critical of these and expect to be in the minority, especially compared to those owners desperately trying to justify their purchase. Personally I think all these retro, classics like this are like the parable of 'The Emperor's New Clothes". 15 years ago, Emperor John Bloor turned to the people and said "People,.... you shall all ride Bonnevilles. You shall grow Hipster Beards, wear brown leather jackets, open face helmets and scuffed-up ankle boots. "Then go and sit outside Starbucks all day". And the people said, "Hommmmmm, weeeee belieeeeve". I just think I'm like the kid in the crowd, seeing it for what it is, saying,....."hang on,...…...what's going on,...……..?"
Quite possibly one of the most embarrassing bikes on the market today. Everything about it is fake. Seriously, who buys these things? I can only assume it's someone, having a mid-life crisis, who wants their 75 year old next door neighbour, and local schoolkids, to think they're cool.
@@rishab8882 Technically it's not a Moped (it doesn't have pedals), but does have a restricted 50cc engine, so I guess it still counts. Not sure how to upload a picture to the comments section, though, otherwise I'd gladly share a picture of it.
@@griso107 Yes, you're right, I was a bit harsh. Just because I really hate the concept of this thing doesn't mean that others don't absolutely love it. For me, as I said, I just think it's pretending to be something that it isn't and consequently, anyone owning one is pretending to be something they're not. I just like genuine authenticity. But anyway, yes, to those who love this bike, that's all good.
Great to see this video! I picked up a Bobber Black exactly a week ago and have been really enjoying it.
Enjoy!
I love my Bobber Black. Every meet I get lots of ppl asking me about it, and just loving it. Sounds great, brakes great, maneuverable at low speed, I can steer it with my knees at higher speed it's easy to maneuver IMO, and so much more awesomeness. Only thing I can see ppl not liking is comfort, and luggage capacity. Im 270lbs 6FT I find its not too bad for comfort 90% of the time. If you wanted comfort why did you get a Bobber IMO. Also the ability to bring stuff with you, again why would you get a Bobber for touring. If you want a great custom looking bike without the headaches how could you not get a Triumph Bobber Black.
Cheers for the real world info! I agree that if you want comfort and luggage, there’s the speedmaster. It’s not what this bike is about 👍
And how disappointed are "the ppl' when they find out you didn't build a unique bike yourself, in your South London garage, but instead bought a pastiche, made on a production line in Thailand?
@@dave6467 no one cuz ppl where I live aren't weak losers who think like that. They love bikes regardless. Bikes are bikes. Custom built, hand built, Thailand built, Henckley built, doesn't matter. Difference is mine has a warranty, so what lol. Everyone I meet loves it, thats all there is. Cheers for the weird RUclips comment.
LOL, thanks Doc', a rather predictable reply. The reality is, as all other bikers know, is it's a complete fake. From its fake 'rear sprung hub', fake 'hardtail', fake 'points cover', fake 'carbs', fake 'Smiths speedo' and, worst of all fake 'Bobber pretence. A Bobber is supposed to reflect the individuality of the owner/builder. It should reflect the owner's style, engineering skills, vision, etc. You and the other owners of these bikes want people to look at you and think "wow, where did they get the inspiration from?" The reality, as the rest of the motorcycling community knows, is that it's identical to the thousands of other 'Bobbers' coming off Triumph's production line. There's nothing real or individual about it and that totally destroys the whole ethos and concept of what a Bobber actually is. So, sorry, but I stand by my comment. The only people fooled by it are the elderly, kids, and the people who parted with their money, for a mass produced bike from the Far East, pretending to be something it's not
@@dave6467 try to not slip on those tears dude. You know what else is fake...Im not a real Doctor, oh no! QQ
I want to buy one. I love bobbers. And I think owning a triumph would be a dream come true.
I bought a Triumph Thruxton this year. Now I want more Triumphs! They are all so awesome.
I have the 2019 Triumph Bobber Black and I love it. I need to get an aftermarket exhaust though as it is to quite.
I'm considering getting one however have heard it being advised to also get the Fox shock and a better seat (more padding/softer cushion) to get rid of the issues with feeling every single crack in the road.
I test rode the whole fleet. Bought a speed twin. I think it's triumphs best street bike.
Speed Twin is awesome too, I agree. Would be my pick I think, if I was to swap my street twin
I too have a 2018 street twin and yes I agree the brakes are shocking, I have realised that I need to leave a little more space.
For a big heavy lump of metal, a single 2-pot Nissin really isn’t enough. I believe the brembo on the new version is better but not exactly MotoGP brakes
Spot on review. I have had a bobber black for the past 7 months and love it. It has had a few minor mods just waiting for a British customs rear light to go in production. The brakes in my opinion still need sharpening up. Rumour has it the bobber for 2020 is getting an update.
Yeah I saw the press shots on MCN. Looks like a TFC to me though. I think the master cylinders are poor on the brakes across the range, which is why the callipers haven’t fully solved the problem
They will definitely improve this bike next year. Its their best selling bike! Maybe a bobber tfc? If not at least improved suspension, brakes and 100+ hp.
Fastest selling bike not biggest.
Great video as usual, Rob. I was fortunate enough to borrow a Bobber for the day a few weeks back, I was surprised how much I enjoyed it. Pulls like a damn train too!
That's a fair summary! Although can't compete with the pulling power of the fat bob. Which in turn won't compete with the rocket. Cannot wait to ride one...
I just bought a new 2018 triumph bonneville bobber black...I absolutely love it....been riding for 40 years...this bike put the fun back in riding for me anyways..i also have a 2016 harley road king which is like driving a tank compared to the bobber...great for just riding about when you dont plan on going far...i get tons of looks when im out riding with my harley buddies...stripped down old school basic ride...love it...RONALD DOUGLAS...just realized its my wifes youtube account...lol
I test rode one of these. Was awesome, but I went for the Thruxton R.
More comfortable seating position for me.
And a bigger fuel tank.
And I think it's even prettier!
It's a nice decision to have to make! Both great bikes
A great short review. Thanks. I have the Speedmaster (just over 12 months) and there are lots of shared qualities AND faults with these bikes. Of course there’s becoming quite a range of specialist (non Triumph) add-ons available for customising. A guy called Stuart Fillingham on UT deals extensively with these for the Bonneville Triumph range; all very interesting but can be relatively expensive.
The suspension is hard and I’m not sure what’s available to help with that. The key thing is the low travel range on the suspension; I bottom out regularly on “B” and side roads, which can spoil the ride. You do have to adjust the riding style a little on sweeping bends and reverse camber roundabouts otherwise the pegs ground out very easily. Servicing and simple chain maintenance can be a chore as there’s no centre stand combined with the very low attachment point for bobbins make the choice of paddock stand a specialist undertaking!!
The looks of this and the Speedmaster are great (IMO) but the way the wiring loom is attached by rubber bands to the bars at the front of the bike seems like a short term solution. I also think that both bikes would have looked better with twin clocks like the Thruxton or the new Twin? The single clock is a bit cheap n nasty.
BUT even given the above, these are really great and fun bikes that, as you say turn heads wherever you go. Another (but smaller Bobber) to look at is the new CCM Bobber that the guys in Bolton are bringing to us anytime soon. My deposit is down with delivery in the next 12 months!!
Hope the above is useful. On re-reading the above, it looks a bit negative. It’s not. The engine is so much fun with plenty of real world grunt and I will never give up my Speedmaster! Yours aye, Alan
Thanks for the info Alan! I had wondered whether an improved rear shock would address the comfort. It’s interesting that the speedmaster suffers the same as the bobber - you can excuse the Bobber Black for being a bit firm as it’s meant to be a bike that handles well, but surely the speedmaster is all about a plush ride. I’d still like to try one out some day though!
You’re welcome. I hope my comments were useful. You can always have a run out on mine if you’re ever in the north!! Yours aye, Alan
You gotta love a Bobber !
Agreed!
On my V9 Bobber I bought touch up paint and it works great. Also had a plastic bag melt on my exhaust...WD40 and a lot of patience does the job
Think you should mention servicing costs on your reviews , after all it is a big thing to consider when purchasing a motorcycle . Good review though Bob.
I did test ride one about 8 months ago. The one I rode had Ape bars on it lol . Was ok . Like I said to you before , is one hell of a sexy looking bike, but for me it kinda felt small like a 125 . Obviously not power wise . The engine is great on it, but I feel I made the right choice with my street twin .
As always , great vid man 👍👍👍
Cheers LB! Interesting that it felt small to you - felt the opposite getting off the ST and straight onto the bobber. But it’s different for everyone..
I rather have a Street Twin too :)
Changed from stock pads to EBC HH. On my street twin. Was surprised with the improvement for 20 pounds.
Did the same! Definitely better... but still doesn't feel great vs. other bikes that I test ride. Not many bikes that weigh 230kg+ come with a single 2-pot nowadays... love the ST but it's a definite weak spot.
I demo’d a standard Bobber and the front brake was a little weak. But I did like the bike. I ride a ‘18 Street Triple 765R
Nice video with a beautiful London view Bob :))
Cheers Tunc 🙌
My life's desire atm.
I must admit I got quite fond of it quickly
I’ve recently won one a 19 plate bobber!
The sound when you wind her on is epic! 3rd into 4th and she’s like a wee rocket!
Only thing I’m finding hard to adjust to is getting my feet comfortable on the pegs.
Only done about 80 miles on it since I’ve had it but switching between the bobber and the mt09 gets some getting used to.
5:11 taking a moment to check out the hottie lol
cant see face, cant confirm if hot or munted
She had a decent body. Can't deny that. 🤷♂️
Lad will be lads
Really eloquently put. Very good descriptions! Rally nice video. Thank you.
Cheers CR! You well?
Yes thank you! Not been riding for a while and in the market for a new bike... it’s a toss up between the Speed Twin, the Speedmaster, Bobber, or T120... I have fairly specific ideas so just looking at all the older vids in these and newer ones like yours! Thanks for the excellent descriptions! I wouldn’t be able to think of all those different bits in one ride! Nice.
Mmmm id love a speed twin too. Have you ridden one yet?
Yes but I think it might be too small... a bit like how I feel on the street triple and twin... it’s no muscle bike like the speed trilpe
re 11:35 and the winds . Yeah I got out on the bike on Saturday, my first time in windy weather. It scared the life out of me ! 60mph "A" road at about 40 MPH, and avoiding dual carriageways altogether .
It’s not much fun is it. I used to cycle a lot and that was even more sketchy because you don’t have any weight to counteract the wind
@@motobob I've never tried a pedal bike in really windy conditions, so yeah, don't think I ever will !
I never rode the 126Kg CB125R in as windy conditions as Saturday, as I recall that could get a bit wobbly in slight wind at the just over 65MPH I could get out of it, so it would have been even worse on that as compared to a 200Kg Triumph.
I'm watching this in the winter and I'm seething with envy of those dry roads! Been a long time since I've seen a dry road! 😔
i own a 2018 and love it
Awesome! But I wonder how she handles in the farmland/country roads.
The city (stop and go) riding experience seems rather enjoyable.
How about the ups and downs, long bends, tempting straight-aways, and twisty/curvy roads that need better signs to illustrate them.
Not really about "racing". But at enjoyable speeds where the machine is also comfortably handling the workload.
Samson Moore I live in Kent and own one of these... it's in its element on faster A & B country roads. I always find myself looking back at it after a ride, thinking how it has now business handling as well as it does given that it looks like it's from the late 40's.
Hi there... enjoyed the vid! I have recently bought one...love it too, mines had the Vance and Hines exhaust dealer upgrade fitted...sounds awesome, although £750 a lot of money....overall a superb bike all round
Darnnit! Now you made me want to go & ride the thing which means I'm probably going to want it....thanks, nice review, ride safe - Cape Town, South Africa
Awesome video review as always. Thanks.
Here I am watching your channel again. They don'y even sell Triumphs in Israel
Is like to see this done as a 650 instead of a 1200. My favorite road is the Cherohala Skyway. It’s 59 miles long. Not sure this could make it to the end with its 4000’ climb. My YT icon is a 500 BSA Gold Star with a rigid rear. It was a great scoot and this could be all that that bike was but for range. And what about Triumph’s triple 650? Screaming engine with loads of fun packed in there
I like virtually all the Triumph classics, if I had the money and space maybe a more laid back T120 to complement my Speed Twin. Possibly even a Thruxton, but I'm kinda thinking the Speed Twin with a different seat and some adjustable suspension could do most of what the Thruxton does. Seconds to change a seat over, and a little bit longer tinkering with suspension.
Which leads me to that the Bobber is about the only one they'll never sell me on, even with potentially limitless amounts of cash.
I guess I just don't get the cruiser position , and no back seat.
With limitless cash I'd be more likely to buy the insanely silly 2.5 litre Rocket as compared to a Bobber , just because the Rocket is a bit silly.
(still need to buy the lottery ticket !)
But I guess some people like Bobbers because otherwise they wouldn't make them :)
Plus it'd be boring if we all rode around on exactly the same bike ...
That’s a fair conclusion - I agree!
Would love to hear a review in the Speedmaster as well. Brand new - I learn to ride in late Sept. Scott (recent kidney transplant recipient).
Hey Scott! I’ve been trying to get a hold of a speedmaster but triumph don’t have one in their press fleet. Seems like it would address a lot of the shortcomings of the bobber though!
Thanks for the reply - hopefully they add to the press release pool. I’ve been looking at Triumph (bobber or speedmaster) and Indian (scouts) as my first bike. I would use as weekend / night cruiser (never for daily work). Interested in any recommendations. Thanks again!
Always enjoy your vlogs,always put off the bobber by the tank range,
Cheers! Yep it’s a limiting factor if you like to get big miles in. Seems to be the norm with Harley sportsters etc too
You can fit the larger Speedmaster fuel tank. 😁
Looks like London after the Apocalypse. Where is everyone? 🤣
Good review and stunning bike!
Haha! Sunday morning in the financial district 🤷♂️
@@motobob that explains, usually I have the honor to enjoy daily traffic jam 🙈🇬🇧
I just noticed this comment . You beat me to it !
Lol I bet the Bobber stops way better than my VT750 Shadow! 250kg, single disc at the front, drum rear....the rule is: use both brakes all the time every time. Good bleedin job there's only 45bhp.
Haha that reminds me of when I hired a royal enfield for a day in Delhi. They’re heavy bikes, disc/drum too. Squeeze the brakes and pray!
Probably one of the best looking bikes out there imo.. However I'd just never get one due to the lack of carrying a pillion. Even if they had a relatively uncomfortable option for a pillion just to go for a short ride, I'd get it however no option at all is a deal breaker for me.
I believe there are after-market conversions. Or the speedmaster?
Seen many reviews, not ridden one. Main cons seem to be the tank is too small and that the pegs touch down too easily. I don't like the broad flat bars. Saw some Z bars on a Sportster that I'd love to try on a bike like that.
At least chain maintenance will be easier than on my T100 🤙🏽
Truuuue! Although another commenter just said that the paddock stand bobbins are too low for most stands. And no center stand
In the end I went for a Speed Twin (which is awesome no doubts), what put me off the Bobber, which I did consider, was the fact that every review video I watched showed peg scraping! So it handles, they say, but is it too low for swinging round country lanes? My Speed Twin was cheaper too, of course . . . . .
I considered the speed twin as well. I see the speed twin as the better performer and more practical, but oh boy the looks of the bobber just over rode all logical. Can't go wrong with either. I am coming from a cbr600rr, so far in city driving haven't had peg problems yet.
140 miles from a full tank of fuel... more than enough from a bike of that nature!
Great looking bike .....
Hope you don't mind me asking on an 'old' video, would love to get the Bobber 2021 model but a bit worried about peg scraping. I'm used to a Z900RS and love that bike, but would love something more 'classy' and 'laid back' for trips with my Harley-friends.
Honestly the only cruiser style bike I can think of that will lean is the Diavel
@@motobob ordered the Bobber 2021, guess I'll need to adapt a bit coming from the Z900RS but couldn't pass up on the style.
London is such a high town. Do you know your way around all of it ?
I used to do a lot of running and cycling, so you get to know the streets really quickly. But I’m sure there are still plenty of areas where I’d get lost!
I'm 6'1 I feel like I would look like a big bear on trycicle on this bobber. I love the design.
Ace looking bike, I too particularly like the seat, sad eh 🤣 & would def fit the smaller led blinkers.
Haha nothing sad about a bit of hovering seat appreciation!
I like the Bobber, but it seems excessively heavy - its dry weight is more than that of the Triumph Tiger 1200 adventure bike!
I love my T120 have tricked it up a bit but the brakes are terrible, as you mentioned wooden and not confidence inspiring at all, I wonder if the brembos are a touch better than standard and would fit the T120 🤔
I think it's to do with the master cylinder tbh. The brembos are better but it's not exactly night and day. There's enough stopping power, but I agree the feel could be better.
try EBC HH pads. they make a huge difference and for £35 - £40 it's incredible value.
Nice review!
Great review. As a Yank, seeing you ride on the wrong side of the road, is a bit unnerving.
My post retirement bike ! Dream is on
Great review mate, really helpful. What’s the Jacket your wearing?
Hello Bob, liked the review. Lived in California, sold house and Moved way down in Mexico. I like the looks of this bike. We all know after 160km it’s all about the comfort. Other than turn signals a Fat Boy (ish) size headlamp would be good. I saw one for sale in the states with 3,500 mi for around $10 is there possibly floor board swap outs?
Spooky for me seeing you on the left side ☠️
i do have bobber TFC, but i had to change the seat. terrible! It was like sitting on a plank.
What's the set up for your helmet cam?
Just a gopro hero 5 session on a mount on the chin. I also use a Sony ecm-cs3 mic into a tascam sound recorder and sync the sound and footage in post
@@motobob sweet thanks!
Did you raise the handle bars a bit?
Have you ridden the 2019 Street Twin? How do the brakes compare with your Street Twin?
Not yet. I’ll try to get on one. I believe it’s better but the master cylinder is the same, so it’s a similar feel
MOTOBOB thanks. It is my first bike so I have no point of reference to stage your comments about wooden brakes. I’d like to understand better though. Appreciate it.
Looks awesome, but needs a larger fuel tank.
Yep. Fine for around town but a bit limiting elsewhere. I’m sure a Jerry can could be strapped onto that rear mudguard though... 🙂
MOTOBOB 137 miles is my record from a tank so far... not a large tanks but it's an economical bike.
It does look amazing. Looks better without someone sat on it though 😐 a rider kinda spoils the lines of it 😬 I'd love one and that's why I didn't test ride one as riding a sportster made me miserable for 10 years because I couldn't afford one 😅 no rear seat puts me off a bit too. Should have had a pull out one (like the harley rocker c had i think) . And it would be a crime to not get louder pipes!
So you think it’s best be displayed in the house as a piece of art? 😂
@@motobob maybe. It's kinda the feeling I got when I had a kawasaki EN 500 chop. It looked awesome when I stood looking at it but when I saw myself in shop windows I looked like a gorilla on a unicycle 😅 I think I'd put apes on a bobber and then the rider doesn't look as perched on top like the flat bars version. Obviously personal opinion is very subjective!
Great review. Have you ridden Bonneville T100? What do you think?
Hey mate do think forward controls would make it better ?
No
Scout bobber only tests 82-85 on the dyno , doubt all that is lost in the drivetrain...
From 00:53 watch the pedestrians at the left trying to cross the street. Hilarious. :)
Wonder how much to convert to the new front brake set up. Need a campaign for triumph to sell us parts at cost .
Allegedly these ain’t selling? So deals may be coming?
500 currently on the road in the UK as opposed to 1,100 base Bobbers. For reference, 1,900 Street Twins, 1,100 Street Scramblers and about 1,400 Thruxtons with the R and regular model combined. So I'm not sure whether 500 is good or bad really? Combined with the 1,100 base Bobbers, it seems like par for the course?
Its my understanding its the best selling bike they've had in their history. Where did you hear it wasn't selling? As far as I've read, and heard its the complete opposite.
In the US they're having a summer sales event right now. I believe up to $1500 off on the base models. Maybe $750 off the black
Triumph are currently offering a £500 Personalisation Contribution on the Bobber. There are certainly a lot of used ones sat in dealers showrooms !
@@motobob Where do you get the stats of how many are on the road ?
Why must all modern bikes have a gear whine?
This bike is awesome. Classic but brave design and fantastic fit and finishing. The price is ridiculous, outrageous and only for rich guys. I own a XSR 900 and it is more nimble, incredible engine, fantastic quality, design... and costs 4.000€ less.
Try search on RUclips c70 v twin or inline ...............................
Blacked engine Is always a bad idea. Looks great and looks amazing new but ages really bad and touch up paint will always show up.
Wish it was belt drive tho.
Call me stupid, but the size of the calipers are too bloody small. I have a 2010, yes 2010!! Vfr12000f that has six pot calipers, and I can stop that bike with one finger from any speed. Frankly Triumph and many other manufacturers need to lift their game. These bikes are not cheap and beyond abs and traction control make sure your bikes can actually stop beyond "adequately"... your putting riders lives at stake.
I think I would turn it into a true hard tail.
My bikes stay stock, never enjoyed endless fun of wasting money. Think the factory bobber sales are dropping.
This is pretty much my thinking. The only options I consider are trackers, alarms , some "crash" / "dresser" bars, fly screen and luggage options.
I almost considered the tyre pressure warning system, but at £220 for the Triumph one, it seemed a bit steep. It does nicely integrate with the clocks on the Speed Twin, unlike tacky after market ones. So I'm pondering this one.
Heated grips ? Probably no. Heated gloves look a more flexible option because they'll work on another bike.
I'm only into useful or security related extras.
If a bike needs more power or braking, best to choose a different bike that does what you want.
Engine, performance and braking mods just look way too expensive, and you'll never get anywhere near the money back if you come to trade it in. The faster better braking bike would hold more of it's value for this part as compared to tweaking a lower performing bike.
That's not even thinking about insurance who seem to run a mile or ask for silly increases in premiums because of performance mods.
All the tarting around with embellished, logo-ised, clutch badges, bullet indicators, and Triumph logo tank bags, and other trinkets just look like a rip off.
About the only reason for buying a Triumph top box was it could be keyed to the ignition key, so one less key, but at a price premium.
I'm finding the exhausts on my Speed Twin loud enough and sound good to me. I'm not keen on the blacked out section, but it doesn't bother me enough to want to spend £600.
Maybe if I become deaf after years of riding without ear plugs , I'll need a louder exhaust pipe, just for me to hear it :-D
just change the calipers. It's crazy ppl whining about the shitty brakes and making other unfunctional modifications which are only for aesthetics . Just buy a bigger caliper....
Try installing EBC sintered pads for a brake upgrade for your Street Twin. Probably 20-25% more power and better feel. ruclips.net/video/snWJ-upKTbc/видео.html
I like Indian Scout for same money more TQ HP plus can carry something.In real life bobber looks minuscule almost toy like...same reason why I dislike Ducati cheap scambler line.They all look like toys
make it electric now!
e-Bobber Green
Dudes driving on the wrong side of the road!
The Bobber is a weekend bike. Period. You might get the odd chap that thinks he's hardcore by riding it on his 10 mile daily commute but it's just not that kind of bike. It's posey and we all know it! I rode it and enjoyed it a lot but the tank is too small and after a couple of hours it's too uncomfortable. Triumph dealers and ESPECIALLY their customer service is shite. It's a price we sometimes have to accept for ownership of their 'classic' bikes.
HARLEY DAVIDSON. Have their work cut out to Beat this
Bob, I've been critical of these and expect to be in the minority, especially compared to those owners desperately trying to justify their purchase. Personally I think all these retro, classics like this are like the parable of 'The Emperor's New Clothes". 15 years ago, Emperor John Bloor turned to the people and said "People,.... you shall all ride Bonnevilles. You shall grow Hipster Beards, wear brown leather jackets, open face helmets and scuffed-up ankle boots. "Then go and sit outside Starbucks all day". And the people said, "Hommmmmm, weeeee belieeeeve". I just think I'm like the kid in the crowd, seeing it for what it is, saying,....."hang on,...…...what's going on,...……..?"
Ok boomer
Quite possibly one of the most embarrassing bikes on the market today. Everything about it is fake. Seriously, who buys these things? I can only assume it's someone, having a mid-life crisis, who wants their 75 year old next door neighbour, and local schoolkids, to think they're cool.
Hey Dave show us your moped
@@rishab8882 Technically it's not a Moped (it doesn't have pedals), but does have a restricted 50cc engine, so I guess it still counts. Not sure how to upload a picture to the comments section, though, otherwise I'd gladly share a picture of it.
Bit harsh 😂😂😂
@@griso107 Yes, you're right, I was a bit harsh. Just because I really hate the concept of this thing doesn't mean that others don't absolutely love it. For me, as I said, I just think it's pretending to be something that it isn't and consequently, anyone owning one is pretending to be something they're not. I just like genuine authenticity. But anyway, yes, to those who love this bike, that's all good.