I’m pretty sure these tapes are the best thing that ever happened to me because, no matter what happens to me from now on, I’ll remind myself I’m not in prison for the rest of my natural life. I will go about my day so thankful for every tiny, little thing.
Amen!!! Ikr. ~. It’s rainbows and beautiful butterflies and warm sunshine out here, & I love my freedom!!! ☀️ 😎 🦋🎉 I LOVE my freedom and will NEVER do ANYTHING to jeopardize it!!! 🙌.
What’s better is they aren’t giving them to him. He’s paying for each of these calls. Donna said in one of them she put $75 on his phone 🤣 she’s paying to self snitch 🤣
@@SS11660 Yes he definitely said the same about his son in other clips but the one I was listening to when I wrote this he was talking about Ben w/ Donna when she told him how she talked to Wendi and Wendi said that after a while when things settle maybe Ben could talk to Charlie after school sometimes.
@@Xxxxxx19-p1c I know but the clip I was referring to was when Donna was telling him about Wendi saying after a while maybe Ben could talk to Charlie on the phone after school. The parts about Roman were similar but not what I was listening to when I commented.
She also says "Thank you." Fucking thank you. Is there *any* interpretation of that other than, "thank you for doing this for the family, thank you for taking the fall." ????
Imagine being this woman.She's the perfect example of an abject failure as a mother, and as a civilized human being. And even as she speaks to the son she describes as being "almost dead", and promises not to leave him there. she's actively planning on abandoning him to his fate.
It's disturbing how Charles Adelson isn't obsessed with his innocence. Neither is Donna proclaiming his innocence. They're also not speaking about the extortionists or any extortion. Their obsessions focus on the trial, not on an actual "miscarriage of justice!"
If you listen closely, you can tell ole Charlie is slowly convincing himself that he was found guilty because of Donna’s TV reference, and Wendi driving by the crime scene an hour after the murder. This will continue to eat at him, and he might implicate one or both of them if it really starts to bother him.
he is fixated on stuff that nobody from a zillion youtube channels even cared about. wendi's book. a pie chart of how often he called a landline. the evidence was like, the stapled money that you admitted you paid your girlfriend to give to the men who murdered dan markel. the money and favors you continued to give her. the wiretaps; things you said in your own voice.
I love how Donna clams right up whenever Chuck brings up the "crazy emails" and "this TV will cost about 5". Suddenly she can't hear her beloved talking 🤣🤣🤣
Hours and Hours and Hours of phone conversations… Not One Single Minute of “the extortion” or how “scared” they were back then… this jury got it right 100%!
I’m so incredibly grateful that Charlie needs to think aloud and talk through problems, and so glad the Adelsons could afford to keep him on the phone 24/7
It hasn't sunk in for him. Let's hope we can see his picture after 10 or 20 years if he makes that far. He will go crazy looking at the walls. And a cot with built-in toilet.
@TEpScin If my "innocent" brother were locked away in jail and just found guilty for a "crime he didn't commit " no legal reason would stop me from saying hello and asking how he was doing. But, my brother wouldn't hire someone to k*ll my children's father... so there's that.
@@EdSeTcinWendi claims that her lawyer has advised her to not speak to her family about the case. In one of these recordings, Donna and/or Harvey said that Wendi's lawyer never said that. Wendi is terrified even just saying hello to her now convicted (because of HER problems) brother.
I really have NO sympathy for Donna sounding all weepy on these phones calls. You caused this. You allowed it to continue in motion. Who in their right mind would think killing Dan was the answer and that you wouldn’t get caught. No sympathy. At all. Did they really not think this through?!? Innocent people go and support their son when he’s on trial for his life, Donna. So hilarious they say it’s all a coincidence and like a movie… Thanks for all this work ❤❤
Yes, they had nine months to think this through and think, "maybe we shouldn't do this". And SEVEN people involved and not one thought to rethink it and say no.
He keeps saying he wants to sit outside with his dog. What about his son? And he never calls his dog by his name. And gross he didn’t recognize Wendi and smiled at her because he thought she was flirting with him? 🤮
Favorite snippets: Donna: “No evidence! How do they do that?! That’s all I’m hearing from people. No evidence…How do they do that?!” Charlie: “I’m likable. I’m not arrogant.” These two are delusional! Unbelievable!!!
Charlie and Donna think the only kind of evidence that counts is hard physical evidence. Sorry, but circumstantial evidence counts too! And since he’s charged with conspiracy, the motive and actions of his family are relevant. They think spending millions on his defense makes it better than the state’s case. Evidence matters!
First chat Ive crossed where the comments are married. Charlie kept mentioning “if he had only followed my guts “ in the jail calls . His guts to not murder or his guts to flee after feeling like someone is onto something? “If I had only took care of me , looked out for myself”
He has no awareness of reality! He thought he was getting off that murder charge at trial! So delusional he thought he was lying good! Astounding the narcissist lawyer kept lying to him saying he did well when we know that’s so false! Nobody who saw the trials believed his layaway extortion!!! He isn’t too bright at all! 🤦♀️ he is never getting out! Donna will die of guilt!!!
This case should be a warning to lots of parents who want to micro manage their children's life. Forcing siblings to act as protector to other siblings. This kind of things happens in many families, let this be a warning
I divoced mine his mom was just like this lady i could not handle her controlling her kids life now i have my son five days they have to ask me the days they want to spend time with him i let my crazy ex mom in law spend time with him she riuned her daughter marriage in eveybody buissness now i have peace they have to abide by my rules she reminds me of this evil lady.
My step sons endure it in their mom’s household. The oldest acts as protector to the younger and defends his every choice no matter how bad the choice is…
Let’s hope the best for Ben & Lincoln, processing the truth, that most of their young lives, were fed lies about the murder of their father, involving other family members.
The boys have been in this nest of sociopaths for too long. There’s a good chance one or both have become narcissists. They need a great deal of therapy but Wendi has control and will continue to brainwash and mess up their minds.
I had heard that Wendi was avoiding Donna and Harvey in other calls.. I was saddened to hear that not only is Wendi still talking to them.. she’s brought the boys into the poor Charlie lies. Those boys are in the monsters grip.
@@Xxxxxx19-p1cthis is normal. It's overwhelming when the weight of the system comes down on you guilty or innocent. And yes I think he's guilty, but still,
@@Xxxxxx19-p1c I thought that was what I heard. I can understand wanting to spend time with your dog, but what about your KIDS?? I hate to say it, but in the long run they're probably better off without him.
Donna told Charlie that people thought he was likeable when he testified 😂😂😂 bro, he was smirking and telling such an unbelievable story, he came across as an arrogant fool
@@abigizaw1419 Volumes of other evidence combined lead to verdict. In Charlie’s mind, though, he blames Wendi’s book and drive by. Feel he was unaware at time of crime that Wendi’s book foreshadowed stuff and that she would visit scene. As he says, it’s creepy.
@@SS11660 At first he goes hard at Wendi, but he doesn’t get support from Don/Harv about anything other than jury & GA. Rash helped redirect verdict blame away from Wendi I feel. Charlie: The point is the fact that she put her fing car there at that time on that date out of her way is enough for people to go, whoa, she must have known something was going on. If she’s involved, I’m involved. Driving by the scene, out of her way and going to buy a bouuttle of bullet bourbon, I would have to say, like if it smells like sh__, it is sh__. These are just a few quotes. Many more
See Chawlie’s look listening to Georgia grilling Wendi on implementing Chawlie by telling the police about his tv being cheaper than a hit man joke. Some things are priceless.
@@mauiswift6391 Exactly, he also went for working class women who were easily impressed by him, his career, and his money. He wasn’t going after women who could match his education or income.
All this destruction for an entitled , spoiled , narcissist who didn’t want to play by the rules of divorce and child custody. You are right where you belong Charlie!
Knowing now that she was planning on leaving the country and hearing her say that is hilarious. She was just trying to pacify Charlie until they were gone. 😂
Donna already knows she and Harvey are going to try and leave the country, Charlie thinks mom will be there for him. This family is a piece of work. How did they think this would all end?
I think maybe Charlie was encouraging her to leave in the previous call by constantly saying “If I knew then what I know now,” and “I should have trusted my gut.” He was talking about fleeing to another country. Donna kept saying, “I know what you’re saying,” and “You don’t have to say it.”
@@sarahs2288 I agree with you Charlie was telling them to leave and I'm sure Dan told Charlie of their plans, but Donna keeps telling Charlie that their not going anywhere, they are here for him and that is purely to throw the authorities off the idea that they might be planning to flee.
Wendy must be furious that Dan Markel's children had to be reminded that he existed at all. She's put so much effort into erasing him from his children's memories.
Too bad, Wendi. It’s only going to get worse! The movies haven’t started coming yet! They are just waiting for the entire family to be under lock and key!!
Can anyone specifically state what Wendi said on the witness stand about the boys are encouraged to remember their father? It was something about they having Dan’s photo by their beds to which they say goodnight and good morning … 🤷🏻♀️
They are lying to themselves so I can’t see how’d they be truthful to anyone else. None of the Adelson’s in my opinion will EVER fess up to this crime, nor will they turn on each other.
@jamiehoover9348 I love people like you that just go skimming through the comment's just so you can piggyback on someone else's because you don't have the intellect to post your own, Hence the reason you're an imbecile .... 😂
Wendi driving down the street on Dan's house seeing all the police and not stopping was stupid. She had to drive out of the way going down that street. Not asking about her boys is telling. Telling the police she thought she was a suspect BEFORE even being told Dan has been shot is huge. Her fake emotions during the police interrogation was also bad for her.
Yeah she really should have had her feet held to the fire on those two topics in the interview. She was deemed a victim almost immediately even after those major red flags!! Sorry you don’t randomly drive a half mile down your Ex’s street because of autopilot. You avoid your ex like the plague… like she avoided Dan at Wholefoods when she saw him there days before the murder.
Yes her statement made no sense if you know your kids are at your ex house you see all those police you’re going to ask what’s going on. Wendi knew it was going down. Bunch of spoiled brats
Sometimes it seems like people forget that 1 of the trigger men has already confessed to the killing and the contact between the Adelsons and the trigger men has confessed, as well. The Adelson Family have been caught red handed and pretend the murder didn't happen at all. Comical.
It's wild to me that Luis Rivera, the head of a Latin Kings faction for Miami-Dade will be released from prison in 2034; while Sigredo (the shooter), Katie (the gopher and money distributor) and Charlie Adelson will sit in prison FOREVER! Donna and Wendi will join the lifetime prison sentence club soon. Harvey, unsure, he could get an accessory charge, 20 yrs and he is 80 yrs old 😮
Yes, those bare facts should not be forgotten while Charlie is busy convincing himself that he had nothing to do with it. 😂 I’m convinced that he actually believes his own lies by now.
Plus, the money trail clearly connecting them. But Charlie is still thinking if only they had picked different jurors, or Wendi didn't take that drive, he would have got off scott free. Delusional.
The damage this woman has done to multiple generations.. heartbreaking to think of all Dan's boys will have to come to terms with now & in the yrs to come
Between Katie/ sigfredo, Luis, Charlie and Dan/Wendi I count 13 children who have lost one or both parents. 13 children have had their lives turned upside because these selfish pricks didn’t want to allow Dan to be the amazing Dad he wanted to be. So many victims and the damage will no doubt go on for generations. And these idiots will sit here and whine and weep about getting caught.
Charlie's fame is all he has....in 6 months, a year... not only will the world forget him~but his own family that are still living and "free" will stop paying him any attention. Human beings don't like to be reminded of humiliation, shame and embarrassment as generations pass. Charlie is about to disappear into quicksand deep beneath the U.S. penal system where he'll devolve into a severe stigma & burden on his son, Roman, and a pity stop to his former friends. He is as good as deceased.
The sheer arrogance of these people, completely deluded. How many times is he gonna say the same thing over and over again. They took someone’s life, now they’re sitting there crying at the loss of their freedom. What about Dan’s poor parents! They can’t speak to their child can they! The arrogance and entitlement is mind numbing
Disappointed to hear Donna confirm Phil and Ruth’s worst fears of the boys being brainwashed. I hope and pray when they are old enough to know the truth they will.
If Charlie is this angry now about the “coincidences” of Wendi driving to the crime scene & Donna referencing TVs in relation to being extorted, just wait a few months or years; he has nothing to do but dwell on the mistakes other people made in the commission of the crime & couple that with his narcissism & it will eat him up that he’s in prison for life for what he’s convinced are solely other people’s slip ups. To this point Donna has been able to listen to him vent & calm him down a bit; now, with Donna in custody, there’s no one to keep him ‘in check’ & I wouldn’t be at all shocked to learn that he’ll turn on someone (most likely Wendi, maybe to save his mom).
On another call he tells Donna "that's why I'm coming after Wendy".. all of them will end up in Tallahassee... Hopefully soon so the boys can grow up with the Markel's
@@jacquelinenobriga4296did he really say that? I agree that as time passes, and reality sets in, a life sentence is a life sentence after all, he is going to become increasingly resentful that he is going down for the family and I hope he will turn on Wendy truly. But did he actually say that and recording? Where and what time stamp?
They have no self awareness: saying he was likable during his testimony, that June's obsessed behavior made him more admired by the jury. They are going to contribute to Wendi's conviction.
Dr's have employees and patients always kissing their ass so they are out of touch with reality. Most of the time, no, we don't think you're great we just want a paycheck or medical care.
I believe it! He’s on the phone nonstop and at .19 cents a minute it adds up fast! He’s lucky he has a rich family and can afford it. Most inmates aren’t so lucky and calls are luxuries.
This makes me laugh...they're questioning Wendi's actions of driving by the house 1/2 hour later, he's questioning the Jury, questioning how much is a large sum of money in your home. I question Donna's IQ .
In Wendi’s writing class podcast, doesn’t Wendi say that Donna thinks she is fat and she thinks she is stupid (but won a spelling bee in 6th grade)? The whole family has bizarre perceptions about who is smart and who is “stupid.” Perhaps this is due to their own intellectual shortcomings…😮
He's like "mom, we need to put this on Wendy! It's the only way I can get out! She fucked it all up by driving there! Please mom, we need to put it on Wendy!" And she's like: "Nope."
Donna doesn't know where he's going with that topic, and her being so uncomfortable with it, that's probably gave her the final push to go to Vietnam. She could tell he's cracking.
@@jeanag3279 He can be a role model to his 2 nephews, showing them that not everyone in the family is crazy, and they can still choose to have a good life despite what has happened.
I find it so fascinating after listening to hours of these tapes….I have never heard the obvious way to prove Charlie’s innocence is to find out WHO paid for Danny’s murder. Why don’t Donna and Charle talk about how “they” are going to find the real person or people who paid to have Danny murdered. NEVER HEARD THEIR SEARCH FOR WHO REALLY DID IT!
@@allend2749exactly, I think of OJ Simpson and that is exactly why I hope Charlie flips on his sister and gets out. Charlie is not capable of violence himself, that's why he had to hire people. OJ on the other hand brutally cut up two people, including a woman. Disgusting. And he got off.
I can't stop laughing at how hard chuck is working to place wendi at the scene of the crime. Him using the prosecutor's words to sum up his sister, "She just couldn't help herself," and desperately trying to get mom on board, are the cherries on this delectable sundae.
Charlie to the jury: “Use you common sense, guys!!” In other words, he’s ticked that he worked so hard to invent such a brilliant, elaborate fairytale story about being extorted, that even if they DIDN’T buy it, his story should have been considered good enough to qualify as “reasonable doubt!!”😂🤣
They intentionally 'X'd' out people with LE family members and even a 20-year MP retiree that also did 20 years at USPS, why? Because they knew those people wouldn't believe a word they said. They thought they picked the dumbest group of people they could pick in their opinion. So, now accusing them of facecalling each other before deliberating? I doubt it.
He actually said that in one of these calls! He talked about how they were the #1 Jury Assessment Team in the country… how expensive they were… the guy’s credentials… the fact that he had lived in Tallahassee for 4yrs and knew the area/culture/people….etc, etc, etc…. He’s SO SHOCKED that PAYING THE MOST MONEY didn’t allow him to get away with murdering his former brother-in-law! He/they are SO EVIL & DISGUSTING!! All they care about is THEMSELVES & their own losses when they DID THIS TO THEMSELVES!! NO ONE in this rotten narcissistic family has expressed one iota of REMORSE for what they did to Dan, his family, and those 2 boys and the losses that THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED due to the evil actions of the Adelson family!! I have no sympathy for them whatsoever! They brought this on themselves and they are where they belong! Two Adelsons down, 2 more to go! Wendi’s UP NEXT!!
It is human nature, self preservation, to think things for your own good. I'm sure they do NOT believe that they are guilty. I don't care if they have seen evidence online or not, they are going to believe that this is all an unfortunate "thing." That is just how the mind works. NOW...... will they SOMEDAY, come to the realization. Well, maybe but it probably will take a lot of time. Their life will be entirely defined by how they deal with all of this, knowing the real truth, or even, the distorted truth. we can be assured that they were probably spoiled, so this probably either way, will not end well for them. (Alcoholism, Drug use, risky behaviors, depression, anxiety..... and of course, I don't wish any of that on them. Only good and wonderful things.) @@chevlife3311
1:10000 🥱 he’s furious with her because he can’t quite think of a ridiculous excuse for that one like all his other BS explanations. I keep thinking I’m listening to the same call- but my god he repeats himself
He cycles over the same 3 sentences ad nauseum.@@rouge9992 I get it, he's in shock and trying to process and grieve, but he's focusing on the WRONG things! I'd be saying, "Omg, what did I do??!! Why did I do this!?"
He is furious all she had to do was stay home. Charlie to Wendi why did we come up with this stupid tv repairman excuse why did you go there? Wendi head cocked sidewayd, doe eyes, lips slightly parted replied, 'I had to sign my work.'. Charlie replied, 'what work?' wendi, 'Ive had this planned before I married him. You don't think l had a non-kosher wedding by accident. Oh you and mom are so stupid. Loud laughter from windi. This is my made up version. Glo
So during the call Donna tells Charlie Wendi is there, but can’t talk to CA because she’s waiting for a call to give her permission.. Then Charlie goes off on Wendi’s drive to the CS… This man is getting closer to the edge. If Wendi steps one foot out of line, Charlie can end her life as she perceives it.
Its funny Charlie thinks its adorable how Roman repeats what he hears but when Lincoln and Ben repeat that grandma says Dan is taking her sunshines away that is not believable
Amazes me that they brag up Rashbaum like he’s a saint. No anger at him for saying they had it in the bag, going home, ecstatic with trial testimony. But yet in an interview he said he was not surprised at the verdict. So obviously he was lying to them but yet they have zero blame or dislike for him. Even though he collected a ton more for his work than a prosecutor is paid. They still worship him
@@OldPuebloHops. I think he wasn’t surprised because of how short the verdict was achieved. They don’t get that most jurists make up their mind before closing arguments. The longer ones mean that there’s a hold out or several of them disagree
@OldPuebloHops I agree the interview stank. How could they not ask him why he didn't bother to go over Katie's "extortion plot" with her?! It's like Dan was ADVERTISING he didn't believe a word of his own defense theory, and they just let that slide...
He pictured himself walking free from court into his backyard and seeing his DOG!!!! NOT HIS SON BUT HIS DOG!!! Donna and Harvey dont even realise what they've raised! UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! IT'S ALL ME ME ME ME
Right, that tells us all we need to know . He’s an absentee father. I bet he’s more involved now than he ever was. He talks about seeing and walking the dog then mentions 4 other ppl or things and then his son.
I keep trying to understand how anyone could have this level of delusion, but then I remind myself that these people are narcissists and these recorded calls are simply another way of pushing their narrative out into the world. He's so focused on the peripheral evidence, but I have yet to hear them address the overwhelming, solid evidence that led to his conviction. That says a lot. I truly hope and pray that the MARKEL boys grow up and break free of this narcissistic family.
Nowhere in all these calls have I heard a single mention of the double extortion. If the double extortion had happened they'd never shut up about it.. Instead they focus on what is most salient to them in their distressed state: the true evidence they've lived in fear of for many years. Not one discussion of what his defence relied on. Nothing.
OMG Charlie talks more about Wendi driving to the crime scene and convincing Donna it was Wendi and why Wendi would have driven to Dans house than they discussed in court
I just posted a comment about this. Wendi’s own actions helped pile on the “coincidences.” It seems like he is trying to signal to Donna that Wendi could be viewed as the only suspect. I wonder if they will pressure Wendi to take the sole blame, so everyone else in the family doesn’t go to prison. Charlie seems like he is no longer in “protect Wendi” mode.
Charlie believes that Wendi going by the house, alone was enough to convict. This is as close as he can get to expressing anger toward Wendi on a recorded call. And Donna is trying to say that she didn’t actually go by there, she’s trying to say Wendi only went near the house and Charlie told her they tracked her phone there. Their code talk isn’t going well. What a miserable mess. He’s desperate to keep his mother on the phone.
I agree with you, my thoughts on Charlie is he watched too many movies and TV he thought he could be slick. Fortunately all of the subtext only made things worse. In my opinion wendi is the most guilty charlie facilitated it, Donna had to be the busy body mom to make Charlie do something. It's sad, gross, and I'm glad justice got served in Charlie's case. It's only satisfying to know that the conversations between Charlie and Donna keep shedding more light on the family dynamics. The victim was only seemingly trying to be a good dad, as far as I could tell.
Really? Wendi was in a very difficult divorce where she says she was badly treated and she’s going 7 mins out of her way to use an old route to the liquor store? I highly doubt that. The driver testified that Katie knew the murder had been committed BEFORE Garcia called. How did he know that??? Wendi? Wendi is in this up to her eyeballs. This whole family is guilty in my opinion and hopefully Wendi is held accountable too
And obviously neither one of these narcissists understand that circumstantial evidence, and the undeniability of statistical coincidence is often, more than direct evidence, responsible for justifiable and righteous convictions. What hubris.
I'M GLAD MY PARENTS BROUGHT ME UP RIGHT. I APPRECIATE EVERY BIT OF DISCIPLINE THEY GAVE ME. I'M ALSO GLAD THAT MY DAD RAN OUR HOME. HE WAS A REAL MAN. HE PASSED AWAY BACK IN 1980. MISS YOU DAD! THANK YOU!
So satisfying that Donna has absolutely power or control over the system, jail or court. They got what they paid for...a one way ticket to prison. Aside from Dan, the two boys are the victims in all this. One day they will accept the truth of how their own family took their father away from them, especially when Donna and Wendi go down. It wasn't just Uncle Charlie.
These people are so ridiculous. Who wanted Dan Markel out of the picture? Who paid a bunch of money to the killers, whose girlfriend was Sigfredo's baby momma, who called the undercover guy and had a conversation with him, who was so worried about the bump, and I could go on and on and on. You were found guilty because you ARE guilty and it's Donna's turn next. I wish they would realize everything they took from Dan and their grandsons. They are crying and talking about all their losses. Your losses are your own fault, a result of your actions. Accept it!
I will never not be in awe of this case. Never. Just mind blowing how entitled these people are. Took someone’s life and no remorse for it. No thoughts for his own rights. So much evidence against him, yet he thought anyone would buy his ludicrous defence?.
If I was innocent: 1) I would have immediately gone to the cops after Donna was approached on the street. At one point, Charlie mentions if it's the IRS. 🤔 2) And that would have made useless and unnecessary ... all those suspicious-sounding conversations (revealed in the wiretaps). --> Innocent people usually don't act like that. Additionally, I've not heard one but of sorrow uttered for Dan or his family, or heard Charlie adamantly state "I'm innocent!"
Folks like him never listen. I knew someone that kept talking, adding 3 more felony charges to their misdemeanor charge. It's like they freak out and just can't shut up sadly.
As he laments about his precious house….he was “always gonna keep it”…oh my god, what did he think Dan wanted forever? This is STUNNING. And in the worst way possible
I can’t wait to hear Janice reaction when she’s told she has to move out of Charlie’s house. That’s the only reason why she’s taking his phone calls probably. Free rent.
At least she got rid of the 2 cases of sex toys like he asked her to do. So his parents wouldn't see them when they came over to check the house. He likes underage girls in other countries and see toys etc etc.
It’s ironic that he’s complaining of feeling trapped in a concrete box while the rest of the world moves on. Considering Dan Markel is trapped in a box while the rest of the world moves on.
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After listening to Charlie for several hours, even I am looking for a one-way ticket to Vietnam.
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Take a Xanax, lol.
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I’m pretty sure these tapes are the best thing that ever happened to me because, no matter what happens to me from now on, I’ll remind myself I’m not in prison for the rest of my natural life. I will go about my day so thankful for every tiny, little thing.
So true 😂
Amen!!! Ikr. ~. It’s rainbows and beautiful butterflies and warm sunshine out here, & I love my freedom!!! ☀️
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I LOVE my freedom and will NEVER do ANYTHING to jeopardize it!!! 🙌.
Ommmmgggg!! I totally think the same all the time.. I get panicking when I think of it ..straight and Narrow for me lol
that is basic and useful wisdom
Amen, and to think they had it all.SMH
Giving this dude unlimited phone calls is a great way to build a case against the entire family.
What’s better is they aren’t giving them to him. He’s paying for each of these calls. Donna said in one of them she put $75 on his phone 🤣 she’s paying to self snitch 🤣
Its an ideal way for the prosecution to build an amazing case
I wish they would’ve waited to release these recordings. Now Wendi will be especially careful when she is able and if she talks with Charlie.
Yes, why does he have unlimited phone calls?
@@judesjubeessounds like she has already ghosted the entire family anyway.
It's amazing that Charlie is no longer worried about the Latin Kings and he never mentions the extortion.
He never says "Mom I'm really scared for you, dad,and Wendi"
Because he is 100% a narcissist. He cares about Charlie
@@tmp1111That and his story was complete bullshit.
Oh he’ll be worried real soon, when he starts getting moved around.
To be a fly on the wall the moment Charlie was informed that Donna was now arrested. Woof!
Guarantee you she got a COLD chill.
“All the things I wanted to do with him (Ben) I’ll never get to do.”
Same for their DAD, Charlie. Same for their Dad.
Roman is Charlie’s son.
I believe he was referring to his own son
@@SS11660 Yes he definitely said the same about his son in other clips but the one I was listening to when I wrote this he was talking about Ben w/ Donna when she told him how she talked to Wendi and Wendi said that after a while when things settle maybe Ben could talk to Charlie after school sometimes.
@@Xxxxxx19-p1c I know but the clip I was referring to was when Donna was telling him about Wendi saying after a while maybe Ben could talk to Charlie on the phone after school. The parts about Roman were similar but not what I was listening to when I commented.
@@lisainthelab thank you. and I'm not sure he actually spent that much time with wendi boys or his own.
The best part Is Donna doesn't know in a few Days she's gonna be sitting next to her son in the can too🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wonder who’s going to put money on both of their books 🤔
Poetic justice!
She's probably glad she doesn't have to hear Charlie go on... And on... And on... And on... Repeating the same things over and over!
How far is the women's jail from men's???
It gets worse… both being inmates, they’ll never see each other again. Ever.
Is anyone else wrapping presents, folding laundry, and doing dishes while listening to this Family’s self destruction?
Cutting material for a quilt lol helps pass the time...got a lot more to go think I'll do it all while listening to the next calls and the next lol
Omg yes! I'm obsessed lol. But hey! Best way to do the stuff I don't want to do 😂
Guilty! 😂
Yes, making Christmas cards, writing reports for work, and listening.
Yes!!!!!
1:13:24
Charlie: "Don't leave me here. (sob)"
Donna: "No. Okay, no problem. No problem. I won't. I won't." *looks up flight times to Vietnam*
She also says "Thank you."
Fucking thank you. Is there *any* interpretation of that other than, "thank you for doing this for the family, thank you for taking the fall." ????
Hahahah
Flight to prison instead 😂🤣
I think that was code for "get out of here".
Imagine being this woman.She's the perfect example of an abject failure as a mother, and as a civilized human being. And even as she speaks to the son she describes as being "almost dead", and promises not to leave him there. she's actively planning on abandoning him to his fate.
It's disturbing how Charles Adelson isn't obsessed with his innocence. Neither is Donna proclaiming his innocence. They're also not speaking about the extortionists or any extortion.
Their obsessions focus on the trial, not on an actual "miscarriage of justice!"
If you listen closely, you can tell ole Charlie is slowly convincing himself that he was found guilty because of Donna’s TV reference, and Wendi driving by the crime scene an hour after the murder. This will continue to eat at him, and he might implicate one or both of them if it really starts to bother him.
Yeah, it’s really bugging him. Plus Wendi’s book.
he is fixated on stuff that nobody from a zillion youtube channels even cared about. wendi's book. a pie chart of how often he called a landline. the evidence was like, the stapled money that you admitted you paid your girlfriend to give to the men who murdered dan markel. the money and favors you continued to give her. the wiretaps; things you said in your own voice.
Exactly!!! He is REALLY ruminating on Wendi driving by the house and her book!
@@minoozolalawhats bugging him about Wendis book?
Yes he mentioned Donna's crazy texts. She said nothing! Ugh
‘ We were raised by murderers ‘
Will be the title of Ben and , Lincoln’s first book 📖!
Raised by a FAMILY of murderers
Maybe they will visit their Dad's grave before they do. At least show him some respect now.
@@gman2974if they remember his name
They’re going to have serious trust/abandonment issues.
I would buy their book!!!
I love how Donna clams right up whenever Chuck brings up the "crazy emails" and "this TV will cost about 5". Suddenly she can't hear her beloved talking 🤣🤣🤣
Not even the burglars in "Home Alone" would recruit these two! 🤣
😂😂😂😂
Ha ha exactly 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
It’s absolutely amazing how Charlie and Donna are not enraged about the testimony of the 3 people convicted if they were innocent.
Hours and Hours and Hours of phone conversations… Not One Single Minute of “the extortion” or how “scared” they were back then… this jury got it right 100%!
"I might get KILLED" 😂
I’m so incredibly grateful that Charlie needs to think aloud and talk through problems, and so glad the Adelsons could afford to keep him on the phone 24/7
Lol!!!
....and that Donna can ramble on a recorded line (with nobody on the other end) about her plans to leave the country. It's remarkable actually.
It hasn't sunk in for him. Let's hope we can see his picture after 10 or 20 years if he makes that far. He will go crazy looking at the walls. And a cot with built-in toilet.
@@asd9asdify I think he is looking forward to his new Prag status in his forever home. Too bad Alex Murdaugh and him couldn't hook up.
@@asd9asdifyif u were to talk to Charlie in 30 o 40 years if he lives that long he'll still be saying the same things
So Wendy is at the house during this call yet never even says hello to her brother...thats very telling.
I know really !! What is that about ? You’re right there and you don’t say hello ? Or have the kids say hi ? Just to give him comfort ?
Didn't you listen to the full recording? Donna said Wendi can't talk to Charlie for legal reasons.
@TEpScin If my "innocent" brother were locked away in jail and just found guilty for a "crime he didn't commit " no legal reason would stop me from saying hello and asking how he was doing. But, my brother wouldn't hire someone to k*ll my children's father... so there's that.
@@EdSeTcinWendi claims that her lawyer has advised her to not speak to her family about the case. In one of these recordings, Donna and/or Harvey said that Wendi's lawyer never said that. Wendi is terrified even just saying hello to her now convicted (because of HER problems) brother.
She is finished w Charlie , he is of no use to her anymore.
Love the way you put these calls together with NO INTERRUPTIONS. You are appreciated.
Charlie’s big mouth = the gift that keeps on giving 🙏🏻😊
These calls are so revealing. They don’t talk about extortion at all.
I really have NO sympathy for Donna sounding all weepy on these phones calls. You caused this. You allowed it to continue in motion. Who in their right mind would think killing Dan was the answer and that you wouldn’t get caught. No sympathy. At all. Did they really not think this through?!?
Innocent people go and support their son when he’s on trial for his life, Donna. So hilarious they say it’s all a coincidence and like a movie…
Thanks for all this work ❤❤
Yes, they had nine months to think this through and think, "maybe we shouldn't do this". And SEVEN people involved and not one thought to rethink it and say no.
Having sympathy for Donna is like having sympathy for the Devil.
He keeps saying he wants to sit outside with his dog. What about his son? And he never calls his dog by his name. And gross he didn’t recognize Wendi and smiled at her because he thought she was flirting with him? 🤮
She's crying because she knows she's next
Donna has a mother's love, Wendi plan this and could care less about her family, she got what she wanted! Dan's murder
“Mom she was THERE!” Jeebus even Charlie understands how shady it was for Wendi to just happen to drive by the crime scene
I know.. it’s like his lightbulb finally went off!
@@AllieBFromTN I think he’s more angry that she did. You have to remember he had this whole thing planned.
So, now we know now that she wasn't supposed to go by there to confirm
@@TG-fq6vylol😅 truly great plans, the only thing they forgot was the "what if something goes wrong?"
She just couldnt help herself
@@marshapieroni6677
Now that Donna is locked up I wonder who is going to scratch Wendi's ass for her the next time it itches
😂
Favorite snippets:
Donna: “No evidence! How do they do that?! That’s all I’m hearing from people. No evidence…How do they do that?!”
Charlie: “I’m likable. I’m not arrogant.”
These two are delusional! Unbelievable!!!
No self awareness.
Charlie and Donna think the only kind of evidence that counts is hard physical evidence. Sorry, but circumstantial evidence counts too! And since he’s charged with conspiracy, the motive and actions of his family are relevant. They think spending millions on his defense makes it better than the state’s case. Evidence matters!
Entire family is just so entitled. This is going to really p them off being in jail
First chat Ive crossed where the comments are married. Charlie kept mentioning “if he had only followed my guts “ in the jail calls . His guts to not murder or his guts to flee after feeling like someone is onto something? “If I had only took care of me , looked out for myself”
These jail calls are a window into the mind of a convicted sociopath.
He has no awareness of reality! He thought he was getting off that murder charge at trial! So delusional he thought he was lying good! Astounding the narcissist lawyer kept lying to him saying he did well when we know that’s so false! Nobody who saw the trials believed his layaway extortion!!! He isn’t too bright at all! 🤦♀️ he is never getting out! Donna will die of guilt!!!
@@theoriginalsurferbobmaybe that too but it’s narcissists!
The insight to their thought process is fascinating and infuriating at the same time.
@@theoriginalsurferbobI thought it was Happy Hanukkah .. ? 🕎
Donna the only decent kid you have is Rob, who broke away from y’all!
PLEASE let Donna out of solitary and give her a telephone!! 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 It would be Christmas all over again.
This case should be a warning to lots of parents who want to micro manage their children's life. Forcing siblings to act as protector to other siblings. This kind of things happens in many families, let this be a warning
I divoced mine his mom was just like this lady i could not handle her controlling her kids life now i have my son five days they have to ask me the days they want to spend time with him i let my crazy ex mom in law spend time with him she riuned her daughter marriage in eveybody buissness now i have peace they have to abide by my rules she reminds me of this evil lady.
Right! Every step they take is a push closer and closer to the line. Then eventually that line gets crossed.
💯
My step sons endure it in their mom’s household. The oldest acts as protector to the younger and defends his every choice no matter how bad the choice is…
I kinda think, knowing Charlie's ego, that he came up with the assassin idea. The parents gladly went along with it though.
Music to my ears to hear them crying. Justice for Dan.
At this point, I'm staring to think that Charlie wants people to hear that Wendi knew
Yep! “If I’m going down, my sister is going down with me!”
💯💯
He has to be. He keeps repeating over and over in a way that presents it as guilt. Not defending her
Exactly !!
@49:17 Charlie says what’s the obvious answer? ….Donna “she wanted to see if it was done “ ….they’re all done !!! (IMO)
@@5urfGurlThat needs to be played in her trial! Wow, they are terrible at crime.
Dan Markel is in a box in his grave because of your actions. We have no sympathy for any of you. Justice for Dan and HIS children.
That reality puts everything in perspective and can't ever let that slip to the back of our awareness. FACTS.
Let’s hope the best for Ben & Lincoln, processing the truth, that most of their young lives, were fed lies about the murder of their father, involving other family members.
This to me is the saddest part how they are being lied to.
I feel so bad for the kids
Ronan as well … god bless them 🕊️ I hope big brother or grandad and grandma Markel can be worthy elders for them 😔
The boys have been in this nest of sociopaths for too long. There’s a good chance one or both have become narcissists. They need a great deal of therapy but Wendi has control and will continue to brainwash and mess up their minds.
I had heard that Wendi was avoiding Donna and Harvey in other calls.. I was saddened to hear that not only is Wendi still talking to them.. she’s brought the boys into the poor Charlie lies. Those boys are in the monsters grip.
Pre-conviction, Charlie NEVER wanted the burden of children. Post-conviction, "I always wanted to have a child."
And when he thought he was going to be acquitted he said he just wanted to be alone in his house with his dog for a few days.
@@Xxxxxx19-p1cthis is normal. It's overwhelming when the weight of the system comes down on you guilty or innocent. And yes I think he's guilty, but still,
But he never married or lived with the mother of his child .
@@Xxxxxx19-p1c I thought that was what I heard. I can understand wanting to spend time with your dog, but what about your KIDS?? I hate to say it, but in the long run they're probably better off without him.
Donna told Charlie that people thought he was likeable when he testified 😂😂😂 bro, he was smirking and telling such an unbelievable story, he came across as an arrogant fool
Donna is so full of lies. “You were so natural. So honest. So sincere.” 😂
Nah, love The Maestro.
And so disrespectful to Georgia. One example, she asked a question and he said" I already told you what happened " ! !
Delusion begets more delusion … which begets more jail phone calls!
@@barbiekat6352 Charlie was railroaded in a hick town. Everyone knows it. Try being objective.
Charlie 100 % blames his conviction on Wendi’s crime scene visit.
Mostly on stupid Tallahassee jury.. and Georgia closing that was too powerful!!
But there is the wire tap too
@@abigizaw1419 Volumes of other evidence combined lead to verdict.
In Charlie’s mind, though, he blames Wendi’s book and drive by. Feel he was unaware at time of crime that Wendi’s book foreshadowed stuff and that she would visit scene. As he says, it’s creepy.
@@SS11660 At first he goes hard at Wendi, but he doesn’t get support from Don/Harv about anything other than jury & GA. Rash helped redirect verdict blame away from Wendi I feel.
Charlie:
The point is the fact that she put her fing car there at that time on that date out of her way is enough for people to go, whoa, she must have known something was going on.
If she’s involved, I’m involved.
Driving by the scene, out of her way and going to buy a bouuttle of bullet bourbon, I would have to say, like
if it smells like sh__, it is sh__.
These are just a few quotes. Many more
See Chawlie’s look listening to Georgia grilling Wendi on implementing Chawlie by telling the police about his tv being cheaper than a hit man joke. Some things are priceless.
There will come a day when nobody answers when he calls. Thanks for all your hard work!
@2FLIPS3TWISTS003 Charlie’s doesn’t date emotionally stable women, let’s face it and for good reason. He needed to have upper hand intellectually.
@@mauiswift6391 Exactly, he also went for working class women who were easily impressed by him, his career, and his money. He wasn’t going after women who could match his education or income.
And he will flip on Wendi the next day.
He won't have anyone to call because his whole family will be in prison 😅
He'll find penpals I'm sure. I doubt any of his family or friends will be around in years to come.
All this destruction for an entitled , spoiled , narcissist who didn’t want to play by the rules of divorce and child custody. You are right where you belong Charlie!
Totally agree! Marriage is a flawed and failing institution. Never get married people.
Several women are on trial for this very thing…I wonder if they are watching the Adelsons implode…
they wanted a jury of 12 wealthy jewish dentists.
He followed his mommy's plan. They cannot understand that hiring the hit man/people that they had no involvement. It's mind blowing
I think Charlie was appeasing mommy. I don't think he cared either way about the divorce or Wendi's happiness.
wondering who the hell thought Charlie was a likeable guy on cross when he reeked of smugness these people are deluded beyond the universe
Nobody!!! She is in denial lying
He was formidable and did quite well but he was full of crap. The evidence proved that it wasn’t his testimony that sunk him it was the evidence.
I wonder how many trophies Harvey and Donna bought for lil Charlie and Wendi.
Seriously! IKR?!?
🙄🙄🙄
He was repulsive. He nailed his own coffin as far as I'm concerned.
Oh my gosh, Charlie mentioning Chief Mac and little did Donna know she would meet him too along with her mouthy about nothing attorney😂
I love Donna assuring Charlie “ We’ll straighten it out”, we need a few weeks”.
Knowing now that she was planning on leaving the country and hearing her say that is hilarious. She was just trying to pacify Charlie until they were gone. 😂
@@VictoriaMarch13 "We'll straighten it out." While she is doing a Google search: Flights Vietnam No Extradition
Donna already knows she and Harvey are going to try and leave the country, Charlie thinks mom will be there for him. This family is a piece of work. How did they think this would all end?
I think maybe Charlie was encouraging her to leave in the previous call by constantly saying “If I knew then what I know now,” and “I should have trusted my gut.” He was talking about fleeing to another country. Donna kept saying, “I know what you’re saying,” and “You don’t have to say it.”
@@sarahs2288 I agree with you Charlie was telling them to leave and I'm sure Dan told Charlie of their plans, but Donna keeps telling Charlie that their not going anywhere, they are here for him and that is purely to throw the authorities off the idea that they might be planning to flee.
Oh Donna’s trial is gonna be great!
Wendy must be furious that Dan Markel's children had to be reminded that he existed at all. She's put so much effort into erasing him from his children's memories.
Oh yes! Thanks for the reminder!
Too bad, Wendi. It’s only going to get worse! The movies haven’t started coming yet! They are just waiting for the entire family to be under lock and key!!
Exactly!
Can anyone specifically state what Wendi said on the witness stand about the boys are encouraged to remember their father? It was something about they having Dan’s photo by their beds to which they say goodnight and good morning … 🤷🏻♀️
@@barbiekat6352 - Mmm hmm..... because she didn't already lie 33,000 times.
Imagine your son is murdered & your grandkids are taken away & raised by the murderers & you're no longer allowed to have contact with them anymore?
That's exactly what I remember when I find myself feeling an ounce of empathy for ANY of the three responsible.
I think the whole family will end up in prison
They should all be in prison!!! Listening to Charlie talk about Wendi, showing up, it's not good, for any of them, jmo!!@@selenamay516
What I want to hear are the jail house calls Charlie makes after he finds out Donna has been arrested!
Yes!!
lol yes please
Those would be AWESOME!
That's what Im here for! @@lr8763
and All the calls to Harvey right now. I hope he doesn't O'd on xanax just to get out of these calls.
I can’t believe they lied to the kids, all of them had nothing to do with it? Unbelievable
They are lying to themselves so I can’t see how’d they be truthful to anyone else. None of the Adelson’s in my opinion will EVER fess up to this crime, nor will they turn on each other.
I Believe she's lying to Charlie those boys Don't want to Speak to him.
Them when they grow up.they will find out on their own
@@Fergie66813 Boys do you want to talk to your Uncle Charlie? No we're good grandma.
I want so bad to see Wendi in a orange jumpsuit, hopefully at some point the evidence will present itself
Or the turtle suit turtle 🐢
@Treasuredbytiffany
No, the orange jumpsuit, hence the purpose behind my comment
@@joeb-5150smh , HENCE the Leon County Fla. Uniforms are BLUE not Orange! You know wth @Tiffany meant dude
@jamiehoover9348
I love people like you that just go skimming through the comment's just so you can piggyback on someone else's because you don't have the intellect to post your own, Hence the reason you're an imbecile .... 😂
It will…..just a matter of time
Wendi driving down the street on Dan's house seeing all the police and not stopping was stupid. She had to drive out of the way going down that street. Not asking about her boys is telling. Telling the police she thought she was a suspect BEFORE even being told Dan has been shot is huge. Her fake emotions during the police interrogation was also bad for her.
Yeah she really should have had her feet held to the fire on those two topics in the interview. She was deemed a victim almost immediately even after those major red flags!! Sorry you don’t randomly drive a half mile down your Ex’s street because of autopilot. You avoid your ex like the plague… like she avoided Dan at Wholefoods when she saw him there days before the murder.
@@Jennifermcintyrehoping they are keeping that for when she’s in the defendants box.
Oh my, she wasn’t as fine an actress as they thought. Tisk Tisk
Totally agree but also, it's ridiculous that Charlie seems to think that was the reason he was convicted. His whole story was idiotic.
Yes her statement made no sense if you know your kids are at your ex house you see all those police you’re going to ask what’s going on. Wendi knew it was going down. Bunch of spoiled brats
The 2 of them have the insight of a geranium. What planet do they live on? His testimony revealed "he was so likable?" Hahaha
Love how Charlie is actually explaining and verifying the logic of the State's case!
Sometimes it seems like people forget that 1 of the trigger men has already confessed to the killing and the contact between the Adelsons and the trigger men has confessed, as well. The Adelson Family have been caught red handed and pretend the murder didn't happen at all. Comical.
It's wild to me that Luis Rivera, the head of a Latin Kings faction for Miami-Dade will be released from prison in 2034; while Sigredo (the shooter), Katie (the gopher and money distributor) and Charlie Adelson will sit in prison FOREVER! Donna and Wendi will join the lifetime prison sentence club soon. Harvey, unsure, he could get an accessory charge, 20 yrs and he is 80 yrs old 😮
Yes, those bare facts should not be forgotten while Charlie is busy convincing himself that he had nothing to do with it. 😂
I’m convinced that he actually believes his own lies by now.
Plus, the money trail clearly connecting them. But Charlie is still thinking if only they had picked different jurors, or Wendi didn't take that drive, he would have got off scott free. Delusional.
The damage this woman has done to multiple generations.. heartbreaking to think of all Dan's boys will have to come to terms with now & in the yrs to come
And Charlie’s children too
@@MrsGator7he only has one... That he knows of 😏😏
It's in the DNA....future generations will simply be more careful in their anti-social exploits.
The damage the entire brood caused
Between Katie/ sigfredo, Luis, Charlie and Dan/Wendi I count 13 children who have lost one or both parents. 13 children have had their lives turned upside because these selfish pricks didn’t want to allow Dan to be the amazing Dad he wanted to be. So many victims and the damage will no doubt go on for generations. And these idiots will sit here and whine and weep about getting caught.
Charlie's fame is all he has....in 6 months, a year... not only will the world forget him~but his own family that are still living and "free" will stop paying him any attention. Human beings don't like to be reminded of humiliation, shame and embarrassment as generations pass. Charlie is about to disappear into quicksand deep beneath the U.S. penal system where he'll devolve into a severe stigma & burden on his son, Roman, and a pity stop to his former friends. He is as good as deceased.
Yes he will, just as Jeff McDonald did!
I agree 💥 They will wash their hands of him, he's a problem. Same will happen to Donna also.
Forgotten just like that 💨 😂
@@CatalinaFOIA they’ll continue to put money on his commissary
I can’t wait for them to flip on Wendi! I’m here with my popcorn ready and waiting!
The sheer arrogance of these people, completely deluded. How many times is he gonna say the same thing over and over again. They took someone’s life, now they’re sitting there crying at the loss of their freedom. What about Dan’s poor parents! They can’t speak to their child can they! The arrogance and entitlement is mind numbing
Exactly! Charlie can move-on when Dan Markel can move-on!
Disappointed to hear Donna confirm Phil and Ruth’s worst fears of the boys being brainwashed. I hope and pray when they are old enough to know the truth they will.
Same💔
If Charlie is this angry now about the “coincidences” of Wendi driving to the crime scene & Donna referencing TVs in relation to being extorted, just wait a few months or years; he has nothing to do but dwell on the mistakes other people made in the commission of the crime & couple that with his narcissism & it will eat him up that he’s in prison for life for what he’s convinced are solely other people’s slip ups. To this point Donna has been able to listen to him vent & calm him down a bit; now, with Donna in custody, there’s no one to keep him ‘in check’ & I wouldn’t be at all shocked to learn that he’ll turn on someone (most likely Wendi, maybe to save his mom).
I agree he will turn on Wendi
On another call he tells Donna "that's why I'm coming after Wendy".. all of them will end up in Tallahassee... Hopefully soon so the boys can grow up with the Markel's
@@jacquelinenobriga4296he absolutely did not say that😮
@@jacquelinenobriga4296did he really say that? I agree that as time passes, and reality sets in, a life sentence is a life sentence after all, he is going to become increasingly resentful that he is going down for the family and I hope he will turn on Wendy truly. But did he actually say that and recording? Where and what time stamp?
He likes to talk. He'll find out soon enough that the only audience he has left is Georgia.
They have no self awareness: saying he was likable during his testimony, that June's obsessed behavior made him more admired by the jury. They are going to contribute to Wendi's conviction.
They have done Wendi no favours. I don’t think many convicted felons have families with unlimited budgets to pay for all these calls.
How much are these calls costing,?
Dr's have employees and patients always kissing their ass so they are out of touch with reality. Most of the time, no, we don't think you're great we just want a paycheck or medical care.
@@michellemonet4358 I saw the total somewhere from the time he's been in jail and it's around $16,000 😳
I believe it! He’s on the phone nonstop and at .19 cents a minute it adds up fast! He’s lucky he has a rich family and can afford it. Most inmates aren’t so lucky and calls are luxuries.
wendy must be terrified of what these dummies are going to do and say
😂
This makes me laugh...they're questioning Wendi's actions of driving by the house 1/2 hour later, he's questioning the Jury, questioning how much is a large sum of money in your home. I question Donna's IQ .
In Wendi’s writing class podcast, doesn’t Wendi say that Donna thinks she is fat and she thinks she is stupid (but won a spelling bee in 6th grade)? The whole family has bizarre perceptions about who is smart and who is “stupid.” Perhaps this is due to their own intellectual shortcomings…😮
Yup…It’s hard to know where to begin with this clan. We’re (or they’re) either stuck in the Twilight Zone or The Outer Limits.
I'm pretty sure inmate to inmate calls are not allowed
Not their own intellectual shortcomings.
Do they allow two soup cans and some long string? @@crunchyfrog0001
He actually thought that he would walk. 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
He keeps hammering on Wendi involvement, you can tell Donna is super uncomfortable with it!
He’s telling mommy that he’s going to rat her out!
Seems like hes gonna rat out Wendi. Yes
He's like "mom, we need to put this on Wendy! It's the only way I can get out! She fucked it all up by driving there! Please mom, we need to put it on Wendy!"
And she's like: "Nope."
@@GetBackToWorkSteve
Exactly
Donna doesn't know where he's going with that topic, and her being so uncomfortable with it, that's probably gave her the final push to go to Vietnam. She could tell he's cracking.
I’m thinking this whole family is so diluted that they are starting to believe their own lies!
Im glad Rob got out when he did
I'm sure Rob is glad too!!!
@@jeanag3279 He can be a role model to his 2 nephews, showing them that not everyone in the family is crazy, and they can still choose to have a good life despite what has happened.
I find it so fascinating after listening to hours of these tapes….I have never heard the obvious way to prove Charlie’s innocence is to find out WHO paid for Danny’s murder. Why don’t Donna and Charle talk about how “they” are going to find the real person or people who paid to have Danny murdered. NEVER HEARD THEIR SEARCH FOR WHO REALLY DID IT!
Because they are talking to each other…the real murderers!
u r right. it sounds just like the o j simpson murders. o j did not do it but they closed the case. tee flucking hee/haw
@@allend2749exactly, I think of OJ Simpson and that is exactly why I hope Charlie flips on his sister and gets out. Charlie is not capable of violence himself, that's why he had to hire people. OJ on the other hand brutally cut up two people, including a woman. Disgusting. And he got off.
They can look in the mirror to find those responsible.
They say the blackmailer killed him to have something to blackmail him with. Ridiculous yes but they aren’t looking for a mystery killer.
I can't stop laughing at how hard chuck is working to place wendi at the scene of the crime. Him using the prosecutor's words to sum up his sister, "She just couldn't help herself," and desperately trying to get mom on board, are the cherries on this delectable sundae.
Charlie to the jury: “Use you common sense, guys!!”
In other words, he’s ticked that he worked so hard to invent such a brilliant, elaborate fairytale story about being extorted, that even if they DIDN’T buy it, his story should have been considered good enough to qualify as “reasonable doubt!!”😂🤣
I can just hear Charlie thinking, "But MY lawyer and jury consultants cost the most! HOW did I lose?!"
Jury consultants doing the voir dire instead of his attorney was a huge blunder.
They intentionally 'X'd' out people with LE family members and even a 20-year MP retiree that also did 20 years at USPS, why? Because they knew those people wouldn't believe a word they said. They thought they picked the dumbest group of people they could pick in their opinion. So, now accusing them of facecalling each other before deliberating? I doubt it.
He actually said that in one of these calls! He talked about how they were the #1 Jury Assessment Team in the country… how expensive they were… the guy’s credentials… the fact that he had lived in Tallahassee for 4yrs and knew the area/culture/people….etc, etc, etc….
He’s SO SHOCKED that PAYING THE MOST MONEY didn’t allow him to get away with murdering his former brother-in-law!
He/they are SO EVIL & DISGUSTING!!
All they care about is THEMSELVES & their own losses when they DID THIS TO THEMSELVES!!
NO ONE in this rotten narcissistic family has expressed one iota of REMORSE for what they did to Dan, his family, and those 2 boys and the losses that THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED due to the evil actions of the Adelson family!!
I have no sympathy for them whatsoever! They brought this on themselves and they are where they belong! Two Adelsons down, 2 more to go! Wendi’s UP NEXT!!
@@saylorgirl799 I really question how Dan could have married into this family ? Did he know early on that his mother in law didn’t like him ?
The mom tat has me 😂 😂 they both need teardrop tattoos too
LOL!!! Teardrops! "Killas". I wonder if he'll get tatted up.
i was thinking the same thing !
Stop lying to Dan's boys. !!
They need to be relocated ASAP
Imagine now that Donna has been arrested they are starting to think about it independently.
It is human nature, self preservation, to think things for your own good. I'm sure they do NOT believe that they are guilty. I don't care if they have seen evidence online or not, they are going to believe that this is all an unfortunate "thing." That is just how the mind works. NOW...... will they SOMEDAY, come to the realization. Well, maybe but it probably will take a lot of time. Their life will be entirely defined by how they deal with all of this, knowing the real truth, or even, the distorted truth. we can be assured that they were probably spoiled, so this probably either way, will not end well for them. (Alcoholism, Drug use, risky behaviors, depression, anxiety..... and of course, I don't wish any of that on them. Only good and wonderful things.) @@chevlife3311
35 Hours of Charlie saying, "What are the chances of Wendi driving by the crime scene" and Donna saying, "I know".
1:10000 🥱 he’s furious with her because he can’t quite think of a ridiculous excuse for that one like all his other BS explanations.
I keep thinking I’m listening to the same call- but my god he repeats himself
He cycles over the same 3 sentences ad nauseum.@@rouge9992 I get it, he's in shock and trying to process and grieve, but he's focusing on the WRONG things!
I'd be saying, "Omg, what did I do??!! Why did I do this!?"
Hahahahahaha I know
He is furious all she had to do was stay home. Charlie to Wendi why did we come up with this stupid tv repairman excuse why did you go there? Wendi head cocked sidewayd, doe eyes, lips slightly parted replied, 'I had to sign my work.'. Charlie replied, 'what work?' wendi, 'Ive had this planned before I married him. You don't think l had a non-kosher wedding by accident. Oh you and mom are so stupid. Loud laughter from windi. This is my made up version. Glo
😅and how many times have we heard " use your common sense, folks" or, "holy sht"
So during the call Donna tells Charlie Wendi is there, but can’t talk to CA because she’s waiting for a call to give her permission..
Then Charlie goes off on Wendi’s drive to the CS…
This man is getting closer to the edge. If Wendi steps one foot out of line, Charlie can end her life as she perceives it.
I wanna hear the call when Charlie finds out Mom is arrested!!
Its funny Charlie thinks its adorable how Roman repeats what he hears but when Lincoln and Ben repeat that grandma says Dan is taking her sunshines away that is not believable
💯
Gigi you have me hooked on these
😭😭😭 I haven't slept in days lol
Some of us have jobs 🤣
Amazes me that they brag up Rashbaum like he’s a saint. No anger at him for saying they had it in the bag, going home, ecstatic with trial testimony. But yet in an interview he said he was not surprised at the verdict. So obviously he was lying to them but yet they have zero blame or dislike for him. Even though he collected a ton more for his work than a prosecutor is paid. They still worship him
Was very disappointed STS didn’t follow up and as Dan why he wasn’t surprised. It was a poor interview: wasn’t listening or reacting to responses.
@@OldPuebloHops. I think he wasn’t surprised because of how short the verdict was achieved. They don’t get that most jurists make up their mind before closing arguments. The longer ones mean that there’s a hold out or several of them disagree
@OldPuebloHops
I agree the interview stank. How could they not ask him why he didn't bother to go over Katie's "extortion plot" with her?! It's like Dan was ADVERTISING he didn't believe a word of his own defense theory, and they just let that slide...
He pictured himself walking free from court into his backyard and seeing his DOG!!!! NOT HIS SON BUT HIS DOG!!! Donna and Harvey dont even realise what they've raised! UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! IT'S ALL ME ME ME ME
I didn’t catch that…WHAT a great point 👍
Right, that tells us all we need to know . He’s an absentee father. I bet he’s more involved now than he ever was. He talks about seeing and walking the dog then mentions 4 other ppl or things and then his son.
And yet he’s leaving the poor dog with that awful Janice person (the housekeeper/girlfriend) 😢
That poor dog will end up at a shelter.
I keep trying to understand how anyone could have this level of delusion, but then I remind myself that these people are narcissists and these recorded calls are simply another way of pushing their narrative out into the world. He's so focused on the peripheral evidence, but I have yet to hear them address the overwhelming, solid evidence that led to his conviction. That says a lot. I truly hope and pray that the MARKEL boys grow up and break free of this narcissistic family.
For sure!!!
Charlie believed Rausbaum. Perfect results.
The boys will break free cause all if them will be in jail begging for money to make calls. Hahahaha
Don’t you know? The entire case rested on Wendi’s book 😂
Nowhere in all these calls have I heard a single mention of the double extortion.
If the double extortion had happened they'd never shut up about it.. Instead they focus on what is most salient to them in their distressed state: the true evidence they've lived in fear of for many years.
Not one discussion of what his defence relied on. Nothing.
OMG Charlie talks more about Wendi driving to the crime scene and convincing Donna it was Wendi and why Wendi would have driven to Dans house than they discussed in court
I just posted a comment about this. Wendi’s own actions helped pile on the “coincidences.” It seems like he is trying to signal to Donna that Wendi could be viewed as the only suspect. I wonder if they will pressure Wendi to take the sole blame, so everyone else in the family doesn’t go to prison. Charlie seems like he is no longer in “protect Wendi” mode.
@@delia5158Wendi with two kids will never take the blame ‼️
Charlie believes that Wendi going by the house, alone was enough to convict. This is as close as he can get to expressing anger toward Wendi on a recorded call. And Donna is trying to say that she didn’t actually go by there, she’s trying to say Wendi only went near the house and Charlie told her they tracked her phone there. Their code talk isn’t going well. What a miserable mess. He’s desperate to keep his mother on the phone.
I agree with you, my thoughts on Charlie is he watched too many movies and TV he thought he could be slick. Fortunately all of the subtext only made things worse. In my opinion wendi is the most guilty charlie facilitated it, Donna had to be the busy body mom to make Charlie do something.
It's sad, gross, and I'm glad justice got served in Charlie's case. It's only satisfying to know that the conversations between Charlie and Donna keep shedding more light on the family dynamics. The victim was only seemingly trying to be a good dad, as far as I could tell.
100%. He is blaming her and Donna in a way that isn't calling them out directly. He should have rolled over and sung like a canary.
He's waiting for Donna to slip her lip again. Convenient Wendi was in the next room.
Really? Wendi was in a very difficult divorce where she says she was badly treated and she’s going 7 mins out of her way to use an old route to the liquor store? I highly doubt that. The driver testified that Katie knew the murder had been committed BEFORE Garcia called. How did he know that??? Wendi?
Wendi is in this up to her eyeballs. This whole family is guilty in my opinion and hopefully Wendi is held accountable too
And obviously neither one of these narcissists understand that circumstantial evidence, and the undeniability of statistical coincidence is often, more than direct evidence, responsible for justifiable and righteous convictions. What hubris.
Oh please. Bump happens. Donna tells Charlie, after he begs her to tell him who it has to do with, “uhhh probably the two of us.”
Yep.
But it's not their hand in the cookie jar 😉😉
Sounds like mom and brother are throwing Wendi under the bus.
Sucks Donna when it all comes back to bite you.. but just wait….SURPRISE!!!
I'M GLAD MY PARENTS BROUGHT ME UP RIGHT. I APPRECIATE EVERY BIT OF DISCIPLINE THEY GAVE ME. I'M ALSO GLAD THAT MY DAD RAN OUR HOME. HE WAS A REAL MAN. HE PASSED AWAY BACK IN 1980. MISS YOU DAD! THANK YOU!
Charlie will be rehashing the trial until the day he dies--
Cursing Tallahassee until his last breath ….
He will move on eventually this is how he processes things.
Wonder how June will feel about being referred to as, “Not the brightest,” by Charlie.
She’s bright enough to stay outta state prison though!
@@lindsayo9702😂
He already joked that if he’d had a kid with June the kid would be the only one in High School having to wear Velcro shoes!
June is a foreigner, not nice to classify her as stupid without more interaction.
She is no match for this ruthless family.
@@jenniferjanssen9876 June is a foreigner! She still has the brains of a turnip & is shallow, materialistic and amoral. Sweet though.
So satisfying that Donna has absolutely power or control over the system, jail or court. They got what they paid for...a one way ticket to prison. Aside from Dan, the two boys are the victims in all this. One day they will accept the truth of how their own family took their father away from them, especially when Donna and Wendi go down. It wasn't just Uncle Charlie.
Donna doesn't know this yet in this jail house call. But she's gonna know chief Mack very soon.😂
These people are so ridiculous. Who wanted Dan Markel out of the picture? Who paid a bunch of money to the killers, whose girlfriend was Sigfredo's baby momma, who called the undercover guy and had a conversation with him, who was so worried about the bump, and I could go on and on and on. You were found guilty because you ARE guilty and it's Donna's turn next. I wish they would realize everything they took from Dan and their grandsons. They are crying and talking about all their losses. Your losses are your own fault, a result of your actions. Accept it!
Charle talks like he was auditioning for a play and felt he nailed the lead role. Zero self awareness 🤦♂️
I love the mom tattoo on Charlie’s neck on the thumb nail!!! It’s so true!! It’s like Donna has created a cult with her children! Rob escaped!!!!
I will never not be in awe of this case. Never. Just mind blowing how entitled these people are. Took someone’s life and no remorse for it. No thoughts for his own rights. So much evidence against him, yet he thought anyone would buy his ludicrous defence?.
This family is so wreckless and self-defeating. They had the world at their fingertips but they foolishly squandered it all.
If I was innocent:
1) I would have immediately gone to the cops after Donna was approached on the street. At one point, Charlie mentions if it's the IRS. 🤔
2) And that would have made useless and unnecessary ... all those suspicious-sounding
conversations (revealed in the wiretaps).
--> Innocent people usually don't act like that.
Additionally, I've not heard one but of sorrow uttered for Dan or his family, or heard Charlie adamantly state "I'm innocent!"
If I was Charlie and being extorted on July 18 2014, I'd go to the police.
Next time Dan visits Charlie in prison he’s going to have only 9 words for him: Stay off the phone and keep your mouth shut.
Folks like him never listen. I knew someone that kept talking, adding 3 more felony charges to their misdemeanor charge. It's like they freak out and just can't shut up sadly.
Hahaha, 😠
As he laments about his precious house….he was “always gonna keep it”…oh my god, what did he think Dan wanted forever? This is STUNNING. And in the worst way possible
Wow! I’ve NEVER heard someone repeat themselves as this guy! I guess when you’re in prison for life…
I can’t wait to hear Janice reaction when she’s told she has to move out of Charlie’s house. That’s the only reason why she’s taking his phone calls probably. Free rent.
Agree. Wait till she hears she has three weeks. That dog will wind up on Harvey’s doorstep.
I wonder what will happen with that situation now that Donna has been arrested. I wonder if Harvey will make her move...
I doubt she will continue calling him "honey and sweetie" or accepting his calls for that matter..
@@nurseratched1208At first i read it wrong i thought you said heaven's step! so i thought "dang,that escalated quickly!" 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
At least she got rid of the 2 cases of sex toys like he asked her to do. So his parents wouldn't see them when they came over to check the house. He likes underage girls in other countries and see toys etc etc.
It’s ironic that he’s complaining of feeling trapped in a concrete box while the rest of the world moves on. Considering Dan Markel is trapped in a box while the rest of the world moves on.
He keeps talking about Wendi showing up at the crime scene. He’s harboring a lot of resentment towards her. He keeps taking about it.