Brother Martin was and is always a beacon for me in my life. He was my favorite Seminary teacher and is an individual who has always remained the same throughout the years. I am now at the age he was when he was my teacher at Timpview High School and having gone through a little bit of life I can honestly say I hope to be the type of man Brother Martin perpetuated. A man of honor, integrity, humility and faith. Thank you for all you have and still do for me Brother Martin. With love and respect, Victor Unga
Vic Diesel My Seminary teacher completely changed my life and Testimony. He doesnt even know it. His Daily example of The Savior Is the reason Im preparing for a mission. Brother Peterson if you read this Thank You from the Bottom of my Heart ..
Josue Salazar Jr keep the faith my man. There a so many who lose it along the way. When you reach times of struggle and your faith wavers just remember one thing. Live worthy of who you were in the premortal life. Your future children are depending on it. 💪🏾 God speed Elder Salazar!!
Victor I just saw this comment today. I cannot even tell you how much this impacted my life right now. Your comment meant so much to me. You are and were such an amazing man. I love you, buddy. Thank you for saying words that I do not feel I am but will strive to be. Your words speak to who I hope to be rather than who I think I am. Thank you Vic.
"You are the resource" wow this is so profound and easily overlooked. Often those in difficult times do know many resources to address their issues including someone to vent to and just listen. They arent always wanting more advice. Just having someone to feel their heart. Thank you so much. This was very insightful.
Beautiful presentation. It has certainly given me much to think about, as well as suggestions on how I can be more Christlike when it comes to engaging with others experiencing difficult challenges. I believe that in order for anyone to counsel with the right tone and timing, we have to ask God to help us be in the right frame of mind, and the right spirit in order to genuinely mourn with those that mourn. This brother has provided wonderful insight, and has pointed things out that I want to be mindful of moving forward. I love Hope Works, it truly is a place of hope and light ❤️.
Yes you explain the right way to go about difficult situations. Every situation is different and the timing. It is crucial for all of us to stay in tune with the Savior and the Holy Ghost. I am in that type of situation now with a friend that needs questions answered. It sounds like also that if something is not done soon she could crack open like Humpty Dumpty. In this world it seems like everyone has to swim through shark-infested Waters to be able to find happiness enjoy. You will always find someone that needs a life jacket and a pull on the way. He had brought up a lot of great points in difficult situations Everyone will need help in this cruel world.
This is beautiful and made me think of my Patriachal Blessing's counsel to "Give help where help is needed" . Sometimes when I just dont know what to do or say The Holy Spirit steps in and comfort is felt even in silence. Thank you Bro Martin for this.
I ran across this church video and found it very interesting. Until I became a widower with kids, I admit I was very bad at "morning with those who morn". The story of being with his ward member and friend, who ask him how to tell his kids that his wife and died, sounded very familiar. Telling my kids was the hardest thing I have ever done in my life. This is a very good way to understand what people need when they are morning.
@@churchofjesuschrist I think this video should be highly recommend viewing for those who serve in church leadership positions. Was clerk when my wife passed 3 1/2 years ago and I have learned this lessons the hard way. It has changed how I see and interact with those struggling from grief, illness, financial problems and so many more. Had I see this video years ago, I think it would have made my own grief process easier.
Hello everyone. I hope you are all well. I am here to request a prayers from anyone who have strong believe please . My soul and my body is so weak. I am not in good condition of health. I am feeling alone
@Uwera Claudine, thanks for your comment and for sharing your belief in prayer. We know God hears your prayers of faith, and we hope you will feel His love and comfort as you seek His help. If you'd like to learn more about prayer, see the link below: www.comeuntochrist.org/site/god/how-to-pray-v2
I will pray for you. I hope you find someone to ease your pain. I pray that God will grant thee hope, peace, comfort, rest, and love. That you might heal.
Dear sibling in Christ: I have found, when my faith was ever growing weak, that I have a Father in Heaven who loves me more than I can ever comprehend, and He will never allow me to go to destruction. Remember Him. Cleave onto Him like nothing else. And in the name of his beloved Son He will certainly rescue you from your woe. This I know to be true in Jesus name.
Sheldon Martin It'll be 2 years since my dad passed away from cancer in December and the week that my dad passed away one of my friends asked if he could come to the hospital to see my dad and be there to help me through that and he absolutely was there and helped me to grieve and helped mourn with me. He was the only person who would come and be there with me when I needed a friend I absolutely think that is one example of mourning with someone who is mourning a loss
When going through burn-out and mentioning the church's culture was toxic for me: one person talked to me for hours. She probed to really understand. Then when she did, SHE cried and hugged me. She wished me nothing but happiness even if that meant leaving the lds church. Another person, seemed somewhat understanding, but when I mentioned the toxic effect of the church culture on my personality type, she dismissed my character to defend the lds church. This second approach reaffirmed my ideas about the church culture: it's obviously not a hospital for the sick with Jesus as the ultimate healer (as I had been taught), the lds church was obviously a gym for the already healthy. If more people would have responded like the first person, mourning with those that mourn as promised with their baptismal covenant, my healing would have come much quicker. Because then the culture wouldn't have been so toxic. I don't understand why people feel a need to defend an organisation AT THE COST OF the very people it's supposed to serve, instead of being open to points of improvement so it can serve them better. As said: toxic. The organisation is perfect, therefore if it doesn't work for you, you are just not good enough. Especially in such an environment the response of that first person was pure light in the darkness.
Thank you so much! I’ve been deeply touched by your words... I have been for sure someone who has had someone to mourn with me after some difficult emotional situations. I value the power of family! I am a witness that even our Lord JC mourns with all those who seek him. Thanks a lot - AdaDeHoyos
When my grandmother passed away, I didn't feel anything for some reason. When my mother started to get emotional, I would sneak out of the room because I was uncomfortable for not feeling the same thing. Then, at one moment during the funeral, I felt everything at once. I began crying, but was trying not to because people were around me. At the moment when I stood in need of comfort, my mother, who I had neglected, comforted me. She simply laid my head on her shoulder. She was literally a shoulder to cry on. By this action, she assured me that my feelings were appropriate and valid. This inspired me to attend to the needs of those around me just by being there and assuring them in any way that I can.
When my first marriage ended in divorce, I mourned the loss of being with my children every day--seeing their faces each morning, playing with them, reading to them, saying bedtime prayers with them. Not helpful: When a friend just sat and listened. I would get into the rut of just repeating the same things over and over and dwelling on everything negative. Helpful: When a friend spent time with me going on a motorcycle ride, or going to lunch with me, or going to church with me. I learned that "mourning with" is all about connection. "Mourning with" means I'm not focused on what the other person should be saying and doing. It means I'm focused on receiving what the other person is able to give. Maybe they don't listen as compassionately as I hope. I can still graciously receive their attempts to connect when they tell their own stories. Maybe their timing isn't perfect when they offer solutions. I can still listen and acknowledge their advice and store it away for another time. Maybe they don't have hours to spend with me. I can still graciously accept the small gifts of time they can give. "Mourning with" is not one-sided in either direction. It's about connection, and both parties share the responsibility for making it work.
This is the reason why I even stopped going to church and decided to work on myself, improving my quality of life instead than trying sooo hard to "go to heaven", stay poor, help others instead, my mom did that, she was so active in the church, gave most of her money to the church and spent even more money feeding missionaries, two couples twice a month, at home. What was her reward?? She died of a horrible paralizing disease.....So, dear bishop, with all due respect, spare me the counselling and the incessant invitations to go back to church and to start accepting callings and church related, time consuming chores and errands. This is not my calling in life, my bishop and church peers will never see it that way so..., it's better to stay away, there will be time for church later. I'd rather spend my days accumulating riches and as much wealth as I can, help the church by paying tithings and, when I am of old age and can barely walk go back to church happy and satisfied I did well and still did not stray from the right path back to heavenly father's presence and eternal life.
Im street fighter from Albuquerque. I feel completely opposite. The sacrament table is my incubator. The love I feel is authentic and real. I thought I was strong. Haaa😂
its so true, people are the only thing that can help people. Thanking god for the help people give and blaming man for the bad things that happen is so typical of any religion. there is no god, only a voice in your head that religion tells you is god. the only god that exists, is the god you create in your head.
Brother Martin was and is always a beacon for me in my life. He was my favorite Seminary teacher and is an individual who has always remained the same throughout the years. I am now at the age he was when he was my teacher at Timpview High School and having gone through a little bit of life I can honestly say I hope to be the type of man Brother Martin perpetuated. A man of honor, integrity, humility and faith. Thank you for all you have and still do for me Brother Martin.
With love and respect,
Victor Unga
Vic Diesel My Seminary teacher completely changed my life and Testimony. He doesnt even know it. His Daily example of The Savior Is the reason Im preparing for a mission. Brother Peterson if you read this Thank You from the Bottom of my Heart ..
Josue Salazar Jr keep the faith my man. There a so many who lose it along the way. When you reach times of struggle and your faith wavers just remember one thing. Live worthy of who you were in the premortal life. Your future children are depending on it. 💪🏾 God speed Elder Salazar!!
Victor I just saw this comment today. I cannot even tell you how much this impacted my life right now. Your comment meant so much to me. You are and were such an amazing man. I love you, buddy. Thank you for saying words that I do not feel I am but will strive to be. Your words speak to who I hope to be rather than who I think I am. Thank you Vic.
"You are the resource" wow this is so profound and easily overlooked. Often those in difficult times do know many resources to address their issues including someone to vent to and just listen. They arent always wanting more advice. Just having someone to feel their heart. Thank you so much. This was very insightful.
BU3 D helpful to me too
I never knew HOW to do this. My parents didn't understand this life skill/Covenant. This testimony has been invaluable to me.
Beautiful presentation. It has certainly given me much to think about, as well as suggestions on how I can be more Christlike when it comes to engaging with others experiencing difficult challenges. I believe that in order for anyone to counsel with the right tone and timing, we have to ask God to help us be in the right frame of mind, and the right spirit in order to genuinely mourn with those that mourn. This brother has provided wonderful insight, and has pointed things out that I want to be mindful of moving forward. I love Hope Works, it truly is a place of hope and light ❤️.
Yes you explain the right way to go about difficult situations. Every situation is different and the timing. It is crucial for all of us to stay in tune with the Savior and the Holy Ghost. I am in that type of situation now with a friend that needs questions answered. It sounds like also that if something is not done soon she could crack open like Humpty Dumpty. In this world it seems like everyone has to swim through shark-infested Waters to be able to find happiness enjoy. You will always find someone that needs a life jacket and a pull on the way. He had brought up a lot of great points in difficult situations Everyone will need help in this cruel world.
I wish I could give this a thumbs up for each time I watched it.
This is beautiful and made me think of my Patriachal Blessing's counsel to "Give help where help is needed" . Sometimes when I just dont know what to do or say The Holy Spirit steps in and comfort is felt even in silence.
Thank you Bro Martin for this.
"There isn't going to be a right way to approach this."
Talk about the power of talk therapy!
I ran across this church video and found it very interesting. Until I became a widower with kids, I admit I was very bad at "morning with those who morn". The story of being with his ward member and friend, who ask him how to tell his kids that his wife and died, sounded very familiar. Telling my kids was the hardest thing I have ever done in my life. This is a very good way to understand what people need when they are morning.
Thanks for sharing your perspective, Jeffrey B. That sounds incredibly difficult. We're glad you're here.
@@churchofjesuschrist I think this video should be highly recommend viewing for those who serve in church leadership positions. Was clerk when my wife passed 3 1/2 years ago and I have learned this lessons the hard way. It has changed how I see and interact with those struggling from grief, illness, financial problems and so many more. Had I see this video years ago, I think it would have made my own grief process easier.
He speaks strong truth
This is just what I needed to hear. An answer to my prayer! Thank you!!
Am really blessed with the song nearer to thee
Please try to teach these principles to the Department of Veterans Affairs Crises Line. ❤
Thank you yahosh❤
Hello everyone. I hope you are all well. I am here to request a prayers from anyone who have strong believe please . My soul and my body is so weak. I am not in good condition of health. I am feeling alone
@Uwera Claudine, thanks for your comment and for sharing your belief in prayer. We know God hears your prayers of faith, and we hope you will feel His love and comfort as you seek His help. If you'd like to learn more about prayer, see the link below: www.comeuntochrist.org/site/god/how-to-pray-v2
@@churchofjesuschrist thank you very much dear
I will pray for you. I hope you find someone to ease your pain. I pray that God will grant thee hope, peace, comfort, rest, and love. That you might heal.
@@forgeflarion8362 thank you very much my lovely. X
Dear sibling in Christ: I have found, when my faith was ever growing weak, that I have a Father in Heaven who loves me more than I can ever comprehend, and He will never allow me to go to destruction.
Remember Him. Cleave onto Him like nothing else. And in the name of his beloved Son He will certainly rescue you from your woe. This I know to be true in Jesus name.
I would love to gather some stories of when someone has "mourned with" you. What did they do, what was helpful, what wasn't?
Sheldon Martin It'll be 2 years since my dad passed away from cancer in December and the week that my dad passed away one of my friends asked if he could come to the hospital to see my dad and be there to help me through that and he absolutely was there and helped me to grieve and helped mourn with me. He was the only person who would come and be there with me when I needed a friend I absolutely think that is one example of mourning with someone who is mourning a loss
When going through burn-out and mentioning the church's culture was toxic for me: one person talked to me for hours. She probed to really understand. Then when she did, SHE cried and hugged me. She wished me nothing but happiness even if that meant leaving the lds church.
Another person, seemed somewhat understanding, but when I mentioned the toxic effect of the church culture on my personality type, she dismissed my character to defend the lds church. This second approach reaffirmed my ideas about the church culture: it's obviously not a hospital for the sick with Jesus as the ultimate healer (as I had been taught), the lds church was obviously a gym for the already healthy.
If more people would have responded like the first person, mourning with those that mourn as promised with their baptismal covenant, my healing would have come much quicker. Because then the culture wouldn't have been so toxic. I don't understand why people feel a need to defend an organisation AT THE COST OF the very people it's supposed to serve, instead of being open to points of improvement so it can serve them better. As said: toxic. The organisation is perfect, therefore if it doesn't work for you, you are just not good enough. Especially in such an environment the response of that first person was pure light in the darkness.
Thank you so much! I’ve been deeply touched by your words... I have been for sure someone who has had someone to mourn with me after some difficult emotional situations. I value the power of family! I am a witness that even our Lord JC mourns with all those who seek him. Thanks a lot - AdaDeHoyos
When my grandmother passed away, I didn't feel anything for some reason. When my mother started to get emotional, I would sneak out of the room because I was uncomfortable for not feeling the same thing. Then, at one moment during the funeral, I felt everything at once. I began crying, but was trying not to because people were around me. At the moment when I stood in need of comfort, my mother, who I had neglected, comforted me. She simply laid my head on her shoulder. She was literally a shoulder to cry on. By this action, she assured me that my feelings were appropriate and valid. This inspired me to attend to the needs of those around me just by being there and assuring them in any way that I can.
When my first marriage ended in divorce, I mourned the loss of being with my children every day--seeing their faces each morning, playing with them, reading to them, saying bedtime prayers with them. Not helpful: When a friend just sat and listened. I would get into the rut of just repeating the same things over and over and dwelling on everything negative. Helpful: When a friend spent time with me going on a motorcycle ride, or going to lunch with me, or going to church with me. I learned that "mourning with" is all about connection. "Mourning with" means I'm not focused on what the other person should be saying and doing. It means I'm focused on receiving what the other person is able to give. Maybe they don't listen as compassionately as I hope. I can still graciously receive their attempts to connect when they tell their own stories. Maybe their timing isn't perfect when they offer solutions. I can still listen and acknowledge their advice and store it away for another time. Maybe they don't have hours to spend with me. I can still graciously accept the small gifts of time they can give. "Mourning with" is not one-sided in either direction. It's about connection, and both parties share the responsibility for making it work.
Thank you!
ThankYou I’ve just come out of hospital arter a big stroke.
This is the reason why I even stopped going to church and decided to work on myself, improving my quality of life instead than trying sooo hard to "go to heaven", stay poor, help others instead, my mom did that, she was so active in the church, gave most of her money to the church and spent even more money feeding missionaries, two couples twice a month, at home. What was her reward?? She died of a horrible paralizing disease.....So, dear bishop, with all due respect, spare me the counselling and the incessant invitations to go back to church and to start accepting callings and church related, time consuming chores and errands. This is not my calling in life, my bishop and church peers will never see it that way so..., it's better to stay away, there will be time for church later. I'd rather spend my days accumulating riches and as much wealth as I can, help the church by paying tithings and, when I am of old age and can barely walk go back to church happy and satisfied I did well and still did not stray from the right path back to heavenly father's presence and eternal life.
Im street fighter from Albuquerque. I feel completely opposite. The sacrament table is my incubator. The love I feel is authentic and real. I thought I was strong. Haaa😂
its so true, people are the only thing that can help people. Thanking god for the help people give and blaming man for the bad things that happen is so typical of any religion. there is no god, only a voice in your head that religion tells you is god. the only god that exists, is the god you create in your head.
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Thank you!