Jake Shields Explains the difference of American and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
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Japan: "we invented jiujitsu"
Brazil: "this is our spin on jiujitsu"
America: "this is our spin on jiujitsu"
Brazil: "you cant do that! We invented jiujitsu!" 😠
Who is Brazil in this scenario lmao
Japanese had shit ancient martial arts, who the Brazilians perfect it, america made into the shittiest art possible jiu jitsu today is not even a real fight it’s just but scooting bums going for leg attacks, see how that bum Ryan Hall stint went in the ufc and compare it to Damian Maia
@@JStack Gracie family probably, didnt they want it to be called Gracie Jiujitsu.
@@JStackGracie....
But bjj is an offshoot of Judo and Judo is the direct offshoot(synthesis) from jujutsu.
In Brazil they have already blended wrestling with jujitsu it is called Luta Livre. Marco Ruas was an original UFC fighter using it.
Damn I looked it up. It's true. And it was popular with poorer people who couldn't afford a gi.
Although I'm sure Brazilian and US wrestling are at different levels.
That was crappy jiu jitsu and crappy wrestling so it never really took off, americans like Chris Brennan and Marc Laimon took the gi off and left the gracie academy and founded todays modern nogi scene.
That may be true, but they aren’t like D1 American college wrestlers who are also really good at bjj.
From what I've read Luta Livre is literally catch wrestling. The Gracie's dont like to admit that Maeda incorporated catch wrestling into the jiu jitsu he taught them.
Luta Livre is a mixed style more akin to Combat Sambo than american Jits.
Wrestlers are so strong in the core its insane and if they learn jiu-jitsu it's next level. But anyone who does just one or the other is missing a huge piece.
So it's not JjiuJjitsu anymore. It's submission wrestling and it's turned right back into Catch Wrestling. LOL!
You're not wrong, current no gi jiu jitsu is wrestling heavy and lots of leg locks. Kind of funny how it comes full circle and back to catch wrestling. And I feel like the old catch wrestlers are not getting the credit they deserve for helping evolve submission grappling.
And it's also interesting to see routulo trains with Erik Paulson and he also corners them.
I’m a catch wrestling coach for Snakepit USA. Glad to see it gaining more attention.
@xxFairestxx I trained under Randy Brown who trained under Joe Bane of Snake Pit. Good shit. 💪🏽
Stop it guy! Catch wrestling is limited by its rule sets. No gi jiu jitsu is just that … No gi jiu jitsu
Ive trained as a kid under one of Royce Gracie's gyms. I now train at a 10th planet with an emphasis on wrestling. Wrestlejitsu/submission grappling is the way to go.
10th planet gym I went to for a few months
Very heavy into rubber guard at top level and whatnot.
But outside of that we did take downs, takedown defense, top control. Sometimes we'd spend minutes on end not even touching the ground, no butt scooting unless we were just testing things and we more so "getting into position" than just buttscooting.
american JJ is great. THERES LITERALY WRESTLERS flooding JJ gyms. It's a great blend between top position architects and punishing guillotines etc
My 10th planet gym’s head coach is Black Belt in Judo and master of Sambo and we have classes specifically for Wrestling
What's old is new again - Jake and other guys rebuilding catch wrestling and luta livre
Got tapped out by Palhares
Palhres might be crazy, but he is a monster grappler.
Gracie vs Mitchell
Brazil vs American
Bryce Mitchell is jiu jitsu world champion?
@@leonardooliveira2519no hes an american jiu jitsu fighter that just DONINATED and KOD a Gracie BJJ champ.
@@deadmoney5580 I'm glad you someone got it.
@@leonardooliveira2519 that fight explains exactly what Jake says about BJJ laying back waiting and AJJ being more aggressive.
Reminder: mma is not jj.
Wrestlers always do submission wrestling like ken shamrock
All those terms fall under
*GRAPPLING*
Thank you!
It's called Luta Livre....don't get it twisted..it's been there before BJJ
It's different
@@crushcrewjiu-jitsu2110 ask any Brazilian pal that lived in Rio de Janeiro
@@crushcrewjiu-jitsu2110 How so? Can you elaborate on that?
Carlos was taught Kodokan judo by a travelling Japanese judoka, Mitsuyo Maeda, in 1917. Euclydes "Tatu" Hatem created lutra Livre but he wasn't born until 1914.....so you staying he created lutra Livre when he was 3 years old? Your math ain't mathing bro.
@@Carlosfernandez-i9w7j Carlos wasn't taught by Maeda, he was taught by Maeda's student Jacintho Ferro. He also learned from Donato Pires dos Reis, a catch wrestler
More wrestling, more leg locks, more speed, strength, steroids and spazing. I know, I was one of the originals in the 90s.
Does it work the other way around? If you learn Jiu-Jitsu then a little wrestling will you be great?
Works better this way
Wrestling and wrestlers have an insane amount of athleticism and conditioning you can only get from starting wrestling early and training with that kind of intensity consistently.
Wrestling is a better base. It's not even close. BJJ guys that sprinkle in wrestling are just BJJ guys with bad wrestling. And when they meet a person with good wrestling their below average wrestling won't work.
BJJ as an MMA base definitely can work but wrestling is usually a better base.
Brian Ortega, Jacare Souza, Charles Oliveira, Beneil Dariush, and Gilbert Burns would all be examples of fighters who started with BJJ bases but then improved their wrestling skills in order to secure takedowns. They’ve all had successful MMA careers.
Usually wrestling is better though because wrestlers can secure/defend the takedown to dictate whether the fight is standing or goes to the ground. If they can take opponents down, even if they don’t have great BJJ, they can still score with GnP and control.
If a BJJ fighter doesn’t have the wrestling skills to take an opponent down, they likely won’t even get to use their BJJ and will just be forced into a striking match (this is the challenge that fighters like Mackenzie Dern, Rodolfo Vieira, and Marcus Almeida are trying to overcome).
@@LazerJet27great comment, super well laid out.
Been done in Japan and televised before Jake Shields "blended it"
"blended it" and "branded it" 😆
"make jiu jitsu great again"
In Brazil we have in 80s the Luta Livra Team that are rival of Jiu Jitsu they Train Submissions and Wrestling it's nothinhg new Jake.
Then the Australians showed up 🇦🇺
You're funny.
And did absolutely nothing
RUGBY LOOOIIIIIEEEGUEEEEE.
@@thenomad123can't have first without 2nd m8.
Gay comment. Australians practice American Jiujitsu
Sean Brady is really good at grappling too
Not that good
@@RimasAssumes for mma guy, yes. For top adcc or cji guys, of course not.
@@victor1hbk it's the same level of grappling
@victor1hbk if you're on the ground and close enough to hold eachother you can grapple, if you're in striking distance you strike
Didn't Rampage go on TRT for his last few UFC fights? I remember him saying it was like feeling 25 years old again. 2012. Prescribed by his doctor for his knee. Right after fight with Ryan Bader.
It is called Luta Livre Esportiva
New guys really don't understand just how great Jake was!
“Traditional” BJJ was not about laying back. That’s remarkably ahistorical.
Steroids are routinely prescribed to osteoporotic patients to improve bone density & strength. Never heard of Brittle Bones due to anabolic steroids.
There's multiple classifications of steroids. prednisone and cortisone are just a couple that a very commonly prescribed.
They can harm bones and increase the risk of osteoporosis and broken bones
This guy was specifically referring to anabolic steroids. They do NOT make bones weaker. They strengthen bone density, tendons, ligaments and muscles. Him saying this absurd information is just flat out incorrect.
@@jarretttrthey also give you weak tendons and ligaments just like Tammy assholepinale had happen from a weak kick.
@@mikecampanella1990what happens when you stop taking them? You develop weak everything
Ever hear of catch wrestling??
“We weren’t on drugs, I know a lot of guys we were going against were” bro literally failed multiple times for steroids lmao. The scrap pack are literally famous for the amount of guys popping for steroids out of there. Probably why Nate and nick say “everybody on steroids”
That whole team is on all kinds of drugs...meth included
Nonsense, Carlson already did in the 90s what Jake calls AJJ.
Marco Ruas would be a good guest in this show to say something about mixing BJJ with wrestling way back in the day...
Jake vs damien Mia was grand
That's Luta Livre
some stupid people from Brazil don’t agree with people that only trains no gi. But there’s a lot of Brazilians that don’t care. Also, shields is a great grappler and a OG, but he didn’t invented it. Ruas was the first to mix it in MMA. He was training no gi probably before shields started competing professionally
This is kind of the same thing that happened to Karate. The Okinawans created Karate from their own indigenous fighting arts along with the northern styles of Kung Fu.
The Japanese took Karate from Okinawan and stamped on their own identity.
There are many branches that make up the entire tree. At the end of the day, like Karate, Jiu-jitsu is just an umbrella term.
Brazil is in America...
So you mean catch wrestling?
Jake was waiting for a question on Israel!
LFG Jake!
I thought Keenan Cornelius already has American Jiu Jitsu trademarked 😆 🤔
Lmao then Australia comes in like 💣💣💣💣
So at the end of the day, do all forns of grappling 😂
Wait.... whos fighting tomorrow?
American Jiu-jitsu pioneers!!! Chris Brennan,Eddie Bravo,Avellan Brothers and Jake Shields!! What keenan is doing Brazilian Jiu-jitsu.
still hear it like most schools muay thai and bjj. thats cool fine but a decent shot then youre wrestler. chain wrestle and box then youre a favorite or on the couch
"Blended jiu-jitsu and wrestling together..." so Judo? Lol
Can Brazilians and Americans stop culturally appropriating the Japanese culture? It's Jiu-Jitsu you didn't add anything to it. You just took away some moves.
How about Americans adding an entire system for grappling without the gi?
So Catch wrestling then?😂
There's no guard play in catch
@@wayne47able There is guard play in Catch it’s just not as heavily emphasized as in BJJ. “The front body scissors” is a technique that’s used to control an opponent’s posture when a catch wrestler is on his/her back, which then allows the wrestler to shoot for certain submissions.
@TheBlackRanger187 yea that's not exactly a guard. A guard is a position where you can attack, defend, and stall your opponent with. What you described at the very best just stalls an opponent. Catch wrestlers have no guard and they are not allowed to pull or fight from that position effectively.
@ I agree with you, Catch does lack effective offense and defense from guard,but I will say, Catch wrestlers have developed many effective escapes when they find themselves on their backs.
@TheBlackRanger187 don't get me wrong. I consider catch wrestling tough as hell. Lutra Livre is catch and they were giving the Gracies problems for years
Guys like him actually doe MAGA Jiu jitsu
Blend of bjj and ped
Gi vs no gi. Both are valid. I say that for a reason. First, let me say, due to my experiences in street fights in my black areas of the Midwest, USA, I've always experienced grabbing and grappling STARTING from the standing postion, like I notice Judo 🥋 players do.
Back to the gi vs no gi. This is similar to me like arguing over knife vs gun.
In Southern California and Miami "life" to people in these areas is T-shirts 👕 most of the year.
Let me ask you something how the f__k do I apply the T-shirt and dismiss jackets, when most months out of the year in Milwaukee, WI require wearing a jacket? Winter ☃️🧥❄️🥶 months can be thick, heavy, hooded jackets.
Furthermore, February is near certain to bring not only tempts below ZERO, but strong blowing winds 🌬️ with it, AND thick sheets of ice 🧊🧊🧊 encrusting the sidewalks. How the hell do you apply the California T-shirt 👕 cool 😎 dude style, to grappling on your back against 1, 2, 4 guys?
Bear in mind the physical cost to pay if you get knocked out, in the kind of frigid environment. You quickly get frostbite 🥶 or left long enough, x number of minutes, you may die (freeze to death).
Siberia is worse. The coldest city on Earth is in Siberia and they frequently get temps of NEGATIVE 45 degrees Fahrenheit. They have to either leave their cars running all day, 24/7 or they have to cover the eniter outer car with an electric blanket made exactly for putting over cars, otherwise their cars won't start up.
Rolls gracie added wrestling to Jiu Jitsu
And before him, George Gracie did
Carlson Gracie was the first Gracie to teach train and fight no gi with this aggressive style that Jake supposedly invited. He was the one who taught Rolls back in the 70s also.
Is submission grappling now and who uses all techniques in one is the americans look at gordon, Tackett, william they all well rounded good stand up and amazing submission
All jiujitsu is Japanese, no matter what you add to it.
So it's still jiujitsu then 😂😂😂
Go watch him train with Raja Mendes. He couldn’t do shit against him Jaja was going 30%
Russian combat Sambo is the best for MMA
This dude still salty after what palhares did to him 😂😂😂
I'm surprised Jake Shields can stomach be in the room with rampage the way he be talking on Twitter....😒
The difference is that American JiuJitsu does not exist.
Knowing Jake these days I'm surprised he hasn't just started calling it white pride wrestling
Which is why he supports Palestine huh?
@ even a broken clock
Shields said he's mixed race and proud to be mixed.
Gi tightens up subs. Grip and street fighting with clothes
Bear is such a poser!!!
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Kron Gracie is BJJ. Jake is American JJ. 'Nuff said.
India invented wrestling and martial arts
True and China evolved it
Every single culture had its own martial arts.
@@studiomonster-c9l right...the term martial art means a style of fighting (etymologically)...sword fighting is a "martial art" for example, and since fighting(hunting, war etc.) predates the African exodus of the species objectively only Africa can claim this lol...its unarguable
@Jeffro5564 india known for grappling. Even pro wrestling. China invented sumo
@@Funnyreacts2wrestling is one of humanity’s oldest sport, so one country didnt “invent” it. Are you taking into account the regions of the world that didnt have contact with India? Where did they get their wrestling from then? You must be drinking too much Ganges river water 😂😂
American Jiu Jitsu does not exist 😂😂😂. What this dude is explaining is submission grappling
it's a figure of speech, he explained it perfectly. He's talking about using a wrestling based style for jiu jitsu/grappling. Not to be confused with catch
@@outergod3961 That is exactly what we have been doing here in Finland for ages, and we call it Submission Wrestling... Not Finnish Jiujitsu :D
It’s literally just a trademark Jake filed to grift mouth breathing Americans
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@@KenlieroGamesLMAO fair fair