Interesting build. I just received an All City Space Horse frame yesterday. I wanted to build a light tourer for getting around Hokkaido and Northern Japan. I'm getting the parts together, it should be a great winter project.
@@mountainbikingfortherestofus Yeah, I live in Japan, I’ve been here for nearly 20 years. I am building the bike with some new parts, and some stuff which I had sitting around. Some of the parts were things I bought for my MTB, which I sold before installing them. I bought a new GRX 12s derailleur and a XT 10-51 cassette. The wheels are the ones I had intended for my old MTB, a set of 29er Mavic Crossmax SL S, the crankset is the XTR 9000 1x I bought for the same bike. The levers, brakes, stem, and bar will arrive in a few weeks. I plan to do a lot of skiing this winter, and when the weather warms up in May, take a tour around Oshima Island, or maybe Mikayo Island.
Really fun building a bike from all the parts we have laying around. Plus, we free up space 🙂. Sounds like some fun riding in Japan! Good for you brother. @@twowheelsintokyo7039
@@mountainbikingfortherestofus I got the bike finished, and took it for a spin. I used a 12 speed GRX driveline and a set of Mavic All Road wheels. There were a few hiccups. First, I routed the shifting cable to the wrong side of the clamp on the derailleur, which caused the shifting to be a little erratic in the middle gears, but after putting the cable on correctly, it shifts smoothly and quietly. Next, I cut one of the brake hoses too short, and had to install a longer one. I then installed a set of Panaracer Gravel King SK 700x42 tires, Deda Bar and stem, and a Brooks B17. I took the bike out for the first time today, and it rides great. It's odd to ride a full-size bike after a year of riding a Moulton.
I looked at Surely and it was in the running. In fact, I owned a Surly Cross Check a few years back and definitely a good bike. I had mine for about 12 years and was a real work horse. I got the All City to try something different.
The guy at the bike shop talked me out of getting the Surly. He said the paint, finish and metal work details were super nice. Said "you will thank me when you see it". He was right! It is really a beautiful bike. A real work of art. @@stevenlevitz8895
I’m a bottom bracket junkie. Did you have to ream out BB shell? It looks like you’re using a BSA threaded headset. I’m a BBINFINITE devotee; I have their BB on both my CX and road bikes.
I, thanks for checking in Steven. I didn't use anything fancy, just the Shimano Tiagra BB-RS501. Threaded of course. I had a bike pressed cups a while back and really did not like not being able to easily remove it so I could clean and lube. I would never buy anything but threaded.
Thanks! Not a light weight, 25.5 lbs. I was thinking it would end up coming in at the low 24 lbs mark. But, between the steel frame and so many mountain bike parts it ended up being a bit more beefy.
@@mountainbikingfortherestofus 25.5 lbs not bad at all with those tires and tubes. I love that seat post, I don't know why we don't see it more (maybe canyon has a patent?)
At first the seat post felt a bit funky. But, after a while I got used to it and could notice it being a bit more forgiving on road imperfections, etc. I think you are right about the seat post. Canyon purchased the company that was making them a few years back and I think they had the patent.
LOl, you got it. The sram hydraulics were a take off from my new Transition Spur and thought I could squeeze them on the flat mount frame. I was wrong. In a pinch I picked up the mechanical discs. I didn't have the time to go back and re-film that change over.
@@mountainbikingfortherestofus yeah I was struggling once with post mount calipers on a flat-mount frame/fork. That's how I learned there are 2 types of flat-mount fork positions: for 140-160 and for 160-180 rotors. In the end I bought flatmount calipers - they looked better than the adapters :)
Nice bike! I chose a Cannondale aluminum 2x9 as a road touring bike. Touted as a gravel bike, I knew better! With the super low bottom bracket and 30x46 chainrings, high stack height this thing screams touring bike. All they did was add a wide tire clearance fork and put 37mm gravel tires on it. Voila, gravel bike because that's what's selling. Off came the gravel tires, on went 30mm road tires along with low rider front rack, rear rack, and a 13-36 9 speed cassette from HG 3000 12-36 stock. The 11 co 16:27 g is a waste when carrying an aerodynamic atrocity touring load! The bars may have to go as the crazy wide Cowchipper style drops feel stupid on the drops and make any pretense of some aero laughable! Ride a finished bike to see what you're getting. I made minimal changes and got what I needed for less than building it myself.
Great idea. I know what you mean, most of this categorization is mainly marketing. It is the same thing on the mountain bike side. Cross country, down country, trail, enduro, etc. I actually purchased the Canyon Grizl before I built this one, but it was the first bike I have every purchased in 30+ years of riding I actively disliked. I even went to the trouble of adding flat bars, levers, shifters etc. Still didn't like it and ended up selling a 6 month old bike. This is mainly why I built this all city up. I have a video on that also. Check it out. ruclips.net/video/9dZ9W8nMUEo/видео.html Hey, enjoy your new ride!
I dig it brother thank you for the Vid I learned a little bit from you ! Best Regards
Nice Build
Thank you. It is fun stuff! And making the video a fun hobby as well. Thanks for watching. Cheers, Robert
Interesting build. I just received an All City Space Horse frame yesterday. I wanted to build a light tourer for getting around Hokkaido and Northern Japan. I'm getting the parts together, it should be a great winter project.
Japan, wow. Are you from there or just visiting? How are you thinking of building the bike up?
@@mountainbikingfortherestofus Yeah, I live in Japan, I’ve been here for nearly 20 years. I am building the bike with some new parts, and some stuff which I had sitting around. Some of the parts were things I bought for my MTB, which I sold before installing them. I bought a new GRX 12s derailleur and a XT 10-51 cassette. The wheels are the ones I had intended for my old MTB, a set of 29er Mavic Crossmax SL S, the crankset is the XTR 9000 1x I bought for the same bike. The levers, brakes, stem, and bar will arrive in a few weeks. I plan to do a lot of skiing this winter, and when the weather warms up in May, take a tour around Oshima Island, or maybe Mikayo Island.
Really fun building a bike from all the parts we have laying around. Plus, we free up space 🙂. Sounds like some fun riding in Japan! Good for you brother. @@twowheelsintokyo7039
@@mountainbikingfortherestofus I got the bike finished, and took it for a spin. I used a 12 speed GRX driveline and a set of Mavic All Road wheels. There were a few hiccups. First, I routed the shifting cable to the wrong side of the clamp on the derailleur, which caused the shifting to be a little erratic in the middle gears, but after putting the cable on correctly, it shifts smoothly and quietly. Next, I cut one of the brake hoses too short, and had to install a longer one. I then installed a set of Panaracer Gravel King SK 700x42 tires, Deda Bar and stem, and a Brooks B17. I took the bike out for the first time today, and it rides great. It's odd to ride a full-size bike after a year of riding a Moulton.
You should use Copper or anti seize grease for bottom bracket as you have two different metal making contact steel and aluminum
Good tip, thank you.
Electrolysis yes sir
Had you considered the Cross Check frame as well?
Surly makes some nice rides.
I looked at Surely and it was in the running. In fact, I owned a Surly Cross Check a few years back and definitely a good bike. I had mine for about 12 years and was a real work horse. I got the All City to try something different.
All City definitely has some nice paint schemes.
The guy at the bike shop talked me out of getting the Surly. He said the paint, finish and metal work details were super nice. Said "you will thank me when you see it". He was right! It is really a beautiful bike. A real work of art. @@stevenlevitz8895
I’m a bottom bracket junkie.
Did you have to ream out BB shell? It looks like you’re using a BSA threaded headset.
I’m a BBINFINITE devotee; I have their BB on both my CX and road bikes.
I, thanks for checking in Steven. I didn't use anything fancy, just the Shimano Tiagra BB-RS501. Threaded of course. I had a bike pressed cups a while back and really did not like not being able to easily remove it so I could clean and lube. I would never buy anything but threaded.
Nice build. By the way, I have notice you had in your MTBs the beefier tire in the rear and a fast rolling tire in the front?
Hi, thank you. You are referring to my Niner?
Sweet ride, final weight?
Thanks! Not a light weight, 25.5 lbs. I was thinking it would end up coming in at the low 24 lbs mark. But, between the steel frame and so many mountain bike parts it ended up being a bit more beefy.
@@mountainbikingfortherestofus 25.5 lbs not bad at all with those tires and tubes. I love that seat post, I don't know why we don't see it more (maybe canyon has a patent?)
At first the seat post felt a bit funky. But, after a while I got used to it and could notice it being a bit more forgiving on road imperfections, etc. I think you are right about the seat post. Canyon purchased the company that was making them a few years back and I think they had the patent.
As much as i love drop bars , parts are so much cheaper for flat bars
I didn't realize that. For me it is more comfort. Older I got the harder it was to stay in that position.
the contradiction is the sram hydraulic brake calipers and the tiagra mechanical brake levers
LOl, you got it. The sram hydraulics were a take off from my new Transition Spur and thought I could squeeze them on the flat mount frame. I was wrong. In a pinch I picked up the mechanical discs. I didn't have the time to go back and re-film that change over.
@@mountainbikingfortherestofus
yeah
I was struggling once with post mount calipers on a flat-mount frame/fork.
That's how I learned there are 2 types of flat-mount fork positions: for 140-160 and for 160-180 rotors.
In the end I bought flatmount calipers - they looked better than the adapters :)
Good point, the huge adapters for the Sram brakes were an eye sore and felt like they were a few pounds! lol
Nice bike! I chose a Cannondale aluminum 2x9 as a road touring bike. Touted as a gravel bike, I knew better! With the super low bottom bracket and 30x46 chainrings, high stack height this thing screams touring bike. All they did was add a wide tire clearance fork and put 37mm gravel tires on it. Voila, gravel bike because that's what's selling. Off came the gravel tires, on went 30mm road tires along with low rider front rack, rear rack, and a 13-36 9 speed cassette from HG 3000 12-36 stock. The 11 co 16:27 g is a waste when carrying an aerodynamic atrocity touring load! The bars may have to go as the crazy wide Cowchipper style drops feel stupid on the drops and make any pretense of some aero laughable! Ride a finished bike to see what you're getting. I made minimal changes and got what I needed for less than building it myself.
Great idea. I know what you mean, most of this categorization is mainly marketing. It is the same thing on the mountain bike side. Cross country, down country, trail, enduro, etc. I actually purchased the Canyon Grizl before I built this one, but it was the first bike I have every purchased in 30+ years of riding I actively disliked. I even went to the trouble of adding flat bars, levers, shifters etc. Still didn't like it and ended up selling a 6 month old bike. This is mainly why I built this all city up. I have a video on that also. Check it out. ruclips.net/video/9dZ9W8nMUEo/видео.html Hey, enjoy your new ride!