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paganism makes so much sense...whichever incarnation one believes in...it's about connection...to place, people, ancestors, nature...it's what the modern world needs but doesn't have...connection...thank you for connecting with us and connecting us all with each other ❤
The problem with paganism is that there is no coherent general organization, meaning the religion can never engage large groups of people. People like organized religions, and most of all ONE GOD!
Really great, thank you! I was in Finland for one month last summer at an artist residency, and I came upon information about the väki. I started to paint portraits of them, and now that I’m back in the US, I continue to explore Finnish paganism and other types of pre-Abrahamic religions and spiritual practices in my artwork. Finland completely changed the trajectory of my work, and I am so grateful!
LOVING these videos! I’m so passionate about Finland and paganism and learning about both at the same time has been healing to my soul , keep up the great work xxxx
The Sami have the Bear as the core of the esoteric ritual in ancestry. So the relation between the Finns and Sami has been acknowledged. I did MA and Mphil amongst Sami in Finland, Norway, Sweden and Russia.
I was originally going to have a section in the video about the Sami, however my information at the moment is too little to pay the proper amount of respects to the Sami and their beliefs. I hope one day to learn more 🙏 But yes the Finnish and Sami appear to have many markers of spiritually commonalities.
I have only learned in the last couple years how much Finnish heritage I have and I am so excited to take in all the information you have gathered! Thank you so much!
Thank you for introducing me to paganism i never thought i would have so much in common with paganism i can't get enough of it really appreciate your time and effort you put into your videos
Another awesome video! Great work on this one. So much information along with great footage from the museum and of course the beautiful forests and lakes. Thanks jacob!!
Really great stories from Finnish mythology, you know I would be very happy if you ever took it upon yourself to tell about Finnish mythology that is written in Icelandic sagas, there are a lot of them and it's a wonder they aren't talked about much in Finland, I don't know why, but i would like you to tell them, there are some pretty wild stories and it has been thought that maybe some of them are real events in Finland's ancient history. this subject has been studied very little in Finland, I only found one narrow university study at the University of Oulu, and even in that one it was not possible to say whether the stories have factual truth or not. and the Icelandic sagas are much older than the Kalevala
Agree. The stories in the Islandic sagas are very unferrated when it comes to researching ancient Finland. I understand that it is difficult to know what is fictious and what is based on real events, but I find it very hard to believe it's all fiction.
I can't help but notice how nosy Christians were (and sometimes still are). Everywhere they touched there are stories of torture, killing and suppression of local traditions, whether it's with the northern people; in India (Goa); Christian groups with different beliefs like Waldenses, Albigenses and Cathars; Free thinkers like Giordano Bruno; Native people from South, Central and North America; Burning of books of French Spiritism. And those are just the ones I heard naturally while reading about these subjects and people, I can imagine it also happened in Asia and Africa. And even today we hear of atrocities covered by the church, like child abuse. With all the evidences in so many different situations, still some people want to defend the innocence and authority of such institutions (specially the Catholic Church). On the other side, pagans aren't worried about defending institutions and covering atrocities, they just want to live and practice spirituality in harmony with nature, animals, and other people - while acknowledging the right and validity of other religious practices. It's a very contrasting difference, one with dogmatism and intolerance, the other with flexibility and acceptance, yet people still insist in labeling the latter as "evil". Thank you for your work!
@@oaktaylor7400 would gladly do if the video made any reference to Islam. Just because they also have done horrible things, it doesn't make Christianity any better.
Have you seen/heard of the book "Holy Europe" or "Pyhä Eurooppa" by Aki Cederberg? I really want to get hold of the English translation, which is supposed to be finished, but I can't find it yet. Aki is a Finnish pagan who first delved into eastern spirituality before "coming home", as it were, and this book is a work on the native spiritualities/religions of Europe.
I am from the United States, and when studying my family history, I eventually discovered that I did have ancestors from Finland who came to the United States during the 17th century, which makes me interested in studying Finnish mythology far more so even though the amount of Finnish DNA I have is probably very insignificant.
Here in Finland Kemi area we had have giants about 5500years ago. Nothests giantchurch is in Keminmaa. And we have several giantstonerings caled Jatulintarha.
There was this documentary on TV today, which had something on that vulva symbolism: "Karl Skartveit Fremmed blod". This one is about bear worshiping and tools: "Joseph Campbell - Cave Bears and the Birth of Mythology" And here's about use of figurines: "Downfall of the Ket People". Spiritual usage of tools: "Karelian Magic - 1920".
Love your work. If I may though, it is "shaMAHNic" not "shaMINic." Like I said, love your work, and seeing an enthusiastic young man who's decolonizing his mind from Christianity, doing the work needed for his generation, is good. Pronunciation that isn't so starkly idiosyncratic lends more credibility to your hard work. Sincerely, an elder colleague on the path.
Ah yes, the power of vulva 😅 The weird thing is in old age, they were talking about "vitun väki". Straight translation would be "people of c*nt" or "people with c*nt". As its nowadays very much swear word, i cant put my mind, wether it was seen "good" or "bad" magic. Maybe it wasnt meant bad at the time, sence the word meanings are changing trough the history.
I absolutely hate it when Christian crusader-larpers yell at you "You follow your ancestors? YOUR ANCESTORS CONVERTED!!!" as if they sat down peacefully over a cup of tea, had a religious discussion, and the native pagans said "Oh, this Jesus thing makes a lot more sense. Our old beliefs are stupid. We're Christian now! Hallelujah!" Rather than what it actually was, which was hundreds of years of warfare, kidnapping, torture and murder, oppression and banning of all traditional practices. I tend to ask them, "So, Christianity is not doing too well in the west today. Some westerners are converting to Islam, which is spreading rapidly. If your children or grandchildren convert, and your country in the future becomes Islamic, would you say well 'duh, Islam must be right, because they converted everyone'? Of course not" That tends to shut them up.
I have an easier explanation, being from the US. So far, all the ancestors I know of include two different tribes of Native American, a little bit of black, Irish, English, Welsh, Dutch, German, French, Norwegian & Jewish. I think my ancestors flip-flopped on what they believed enough over the last 1000 years to justify it as a family tradition.
😂when I was ill I thought the runes of the kalavala would heal me I think it did something 😂 if you want to laugh think of odin and vandermonten having a rap battle
Lalli is still today very known and LIKED character in Finland. He is seen as one of the greatest finnish characters, real or fictional, and represents finnish identity against foreign powers. And it is a male name, I know one Lalli.
That kind of pagan superstition, like the women scaring bears away by flashing them, is kind of a funny thing in some cultures. There was a similar one amongst east coast Algonquian speaking peoples in the US- women flashing scared away storms, because the winds had made an agreement with the Great Spirit to not mate with human women, so the correct thing to do when they see a vagina is turn the other way. Lol
Well the time of Sweden's control of Finland is exaggerated for political reasons. The dating begins from unrealiable source and even that considers just a small fraction of the area in the south-west. It proceeded in stages but still some of Finnish areas were actually never under the Swedish rule. It's often told in a way that entire Finland just went under Swedish rule over night :)
The 'vulv' stones.. in the case the two metal items bellow them look very simular to 15th century 'fire strikes'. The stones would fit nicely in the hand, and the groove.. Notice different depths.. may have been made by the repeated strike from the fire strike iron (seen below the stones) to set sparks to light fires.. would be good to know if these items were found together.
Archeologists can make mistakes, so who knows. I know they regularly regarded a common Eastern Woodlands petroglyph as a vagina that was actually the sign for a door into the spirit world & small, perfectly spherical stones were regarded as mortar & pestle aids. Turns out they are literally just marbles- like the children's game.
Modern-day Finns (along with Estonians) are the people genetically the most like the original Mesolithic European hunter-gatherers, but most Finnish men descend from Chinese migrants who introduced pottery to Northern Europe (their genetic marker is called 'haplogroup N1'). Finns have a bit of East Asian admixture because of this, but it seems the Chinese migrants were assimilated into the local hunter-gatherers.
The original haplogroup of Europe was "I", which is the strongest today in Sweden. As you said, Finns are haplogroup N, which came in just a few thousand years ago from the east.
@@Aethuviel Indeed, though there's a mystery around the most common variety of I among Germanic peoples (and Finns): I1, because it was very rare in the Stone Age and only became common after R1 moved into Scandinavia. Most Mesolithic Europeans carried I2 instead.
My great grand parents came from Finland in or around 1902 as a 4th generation Minnesotan I feel a strong connection to Finland and kinda feel like they should of stayed in Finland 😂 . I'm curious as to why they came to the United States in the first place. They should of stuck it out in Finland. Still can't find much on the pajari name though. I found one general with the name in the Finnish army from way back when but I'm not sure if it's related according to my parents.
This is unrelated. I’ve come across A LOT of negative stuff about you. But, I found them to be incredibly unfair to you. Ocean Keltoi and his little group are the ones. But, I’ve found your videos FAR more helpful to me than Ocean’s WOKE cabal. So, for anybody that comes across that BS, don’t let them dissuade you from Jacob.
Want more information on Paganism as it survives in Finland today? Check out my video filmed with Noiduin! 🇫🇮
ruclips.net/video/ibEWt_znpC8/видео.htmlsi=GWjh8MJL7M_nHE3y
paganism makes so much sense...whichever incarnation one believes in...it's about connection...to place, people, ancestors, nature...it's what the modern world needs but doesn't have...connection...thank you for connecting with us and connecting us all with each other ❤
christ is the onlu truth
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The problem with paganism is that there is no coherent general organization, meaning the religion can never engage large groups of people. People like organized religions, and most of all ONE GOD!
Really great, thank you! I was in Finland for one month last summer at an artist residency, and I came upon information about the väki. I started to paint portraits of them, and now that I’m back in the US, I continue to explore Finnish paganism and other types of pre-Abrahamic religions and spiritual practices in my artwork. Finland completely changed the trajectory of my work, and I am so grateful!
LOVING these videos! I’m so passionate about Finland and paganism and learning about both at the same time has been healing to my soul , keep up the great work xxxx
Glad you are enjoying my Finnish videos!
The Sami have the Bear as the core of the esoteric ritual in ancestry. So the relation between the Finns and Sami has been acknowledged. I did MA and Mphil amongst Sami in Finland, Norway, Sweden and Russia.
I was originally going to have a section in the video about the Sami, however my information at the moment is too little to pay the proper amount of respects to the Sami and their beliefs. I hope one day to learn more 🙏 But yes the Finnish and Sami appear to have many markers of spiritually commonalities.
@@TheWisdomOfOdin My son is quarter Sami and I love it there. Super to hear more re the Finns as spent almost half my research time there. 😊
Yeah, I would also point a bit more to the remaining pagan peoples in places like Estonia & the parts of Russia immediately adjacent to Finland.
I have only learned in the last couple years how much Finnish heritage I have and I am so excited to take in all the information you have gathered! Thank you so much!
Thank you for introducing me to paganism i never thought i would have so much in common with paganism i can't get enough of it really appreciate your time and effort you put into your videos
I have been devouring everything I can find about this very topic!! Perfect timing!! Thank you!!
Very informative learned a ton Thank you sir.
Keep up the good work Jacob! 👍🏻
Very interesting and informative. Thanks for your efforts and hard work. Skal
Great video! Didn't know too much about the Finns, so I'm enjoying the little series that you are doing on them :)
also, i would love to learn more about Celtic paganism from you in the future, enjoy
Another awesome video! Great work on this one. So much information along with great footage from the museum and of course the beautiful forests and lakes. Thanks jacob!!
Glad you enjoyed it! 🇫🇮
Love to hear more
inspirational videos you make
Really great stories from Finnish mythology, you know I would be very happy if you ever took it upon yourself to tell about Finnish mythology that is written in Icelandic sagas, there are a lot of them and it's a wonder they aren't talked about much in Finland, I don't know why, but i would like you to tell them, there are some pretty wild stories and it has been thought that maybe some of them are real events in Finland's ancient history.
this subject has been studied very little in Finland, I only found one narrow university study at the University of Oulu, and even in that one it was not possible to say whether the stories have factual truth or not.
and the Icelandic sagas are much older than the Kalevala
Agree. The stories in the Islandic sagas are very unferrated when it comes to researching ancient Finland. I understand that it is difficult to know what is fictious and what is based on real events, but I find it very hard to believe it's all fiction.
I can't help but notice how nosy Christians were (and sometimes still are). Everywhere they touched there are stories of torture, killing and suppression of local traditions, whether it's with the northern people; in India (Goa); Christian groups with different beliefs like Waldenses, Albigenses and Cathars; Free thinkers like Giordano Bruno; Native people from South, Central and North America; Burning of books of French Spiritism. And those are just the ones I heard naturally while reading about these subjects and people, I can imagine it also happened in Asia and Africa. And even today we hear of atrocities covered by the church, like child abuse. With all the evidences in so many different situations, still some people want to defend the innocence and authority of such institutions (specially the Catholic Church). On the other side, pagans aren't worried about defending institutions and covering atrocities, they just want to live and practice spirituality in harmony with nature, animals, and other people - while acknowledging the right and validity of other religious practices. It's a very contrasting difference, one with dogmatism and intolerance, the other with flexibility and acceptance, yet people still insist in labeling the latter as "evil". Thank you for your work!
@@oaktaylor7400 would gladly do if the video made any reference to Islam. Just because they also have done horrible things, it doesn't make Christianity any better.
Well said!
Have you seen/heard of the book "Holy Europe" or "Pyhä Eurooppa" by Aki Cederberg? I really want to get hold of the English translation, which is supposed to be finished, but I can't find it yet. Aki is a Finnish pagan who first delved into eastern spirituality before "coming home", as it were, and this book is a work on the native spiritualities/religions of Europe.
So well made. Kippis!!
Very interesting. I've always been interested in the religious beliefs of ancient hominid so the section about the "cave paintings" was fascinating
I am from the United States, and when studying my family history, I eventually discovered that I did have ancestors from Finland who came to the United States during the 17th century, which makes me interested in studying Finnish mythology far more so even though the amount of Finnish DNA I have is probably very insignificant.
Wow, so they came to New Sweden by the Delaware River? Interesting that the records go back to there.
@@carisballing yes I discovered that I have ancestors from both Sweden and Finland who came to New Sweden by the Delaware river.
Here in Finland Kemi area we had have giants about 5500years ago. Nothests giantchurch is in Keminmaa. And we have several giantstonerings caled Jatulintarha.
For those understanding finnish, i would recommend Kaari Utrio books. Idk if they are translated in other languages or not
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There was this documentary on TV today, which had something on that vulva symbolism: "Karl Skartveit Fremmed blod". This one is about bear worshiping and tools: "Joseph Campbell - Cave Bears and the Birth of Mythology" And here's about use of figurines: "Downfall of the Ket People". Spiritual usage of tools: "Karelian Magic - 1920".
Love your work. If I may though, it is "shaMAHNic" not "shaMINic." Like I said, love your work, and seeing an enthusiastic young man who's decolonizing his mind from Christianity, doing the work needed for his generation, is good. Pronunciation that isn't so starkly idiosyncratic lends more credibility to your hard work. Sincerely, an elder colleague on the path.
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Ah yes, the power of vulva 😅 The weird thing is in old age, they were talking about "vitun väki". Straight translation would be "people of c*nt" or "people with c*nt". As its nowadays very much swear word, i cant put my mind, wether it was seen "good" or "bad" magic. Maybe it wasnt meant bad at the time, sence the word meanings are changing trough the history.
Mahtava! Good stuff.
I absolutely hate it when Christian crusader-larpers yell at you "You follow your ancestors? YOUR ANCESTORS CONVERTED!!!" as if they sat down peacefully over a cup of tea, had a religious discussion, and the native pagans said "Oh, this Jesus thing makes a lot more sense. Our old beliefs are stupid. We're Christian now! Hallelujah!" Rather than what it actually was, which was hundreds of years of warfare, kidnapping, torture and murder, oppression and banning of all traditional practices.
I tend to ask them, "So, Christianity is not doing too well in the west today. Some westerners are converting to Islam, which is spreading rapidly. If your children or grandchildren convert, and your country in the future becomes Islamic, would you say well 'duh, Islam must be right, because they converted everyone'? Of course not" That tends to shut them up.
I have an easier explanation, being from the US. So far, all the ancestors I know of include two different tribes of Native American, a little bit of black, Irish, English, Welsh, Dutch, German, French, Norwegian & Jewish. I think my ancestors flip-flopped on what they believed enough over the last 1000 years to justify it as a family tradition.
😂when I was ill I thought the runes of the kalavala would heal me I think it did something 😂 if you want to laugh think of odin and vandermonten having a rap battle
Lalli is still today very known and LIKED character in Finland. He is seen as one of the greatest finnish characters, real or fictional, and represents finnish identity against foreign powers. And it is a male name, I know one Lalli.
Have you done a video on Bock-saga?
Ah yes, here it is.
"Bock-saga is made up bullshit" 👍
who's vainamoinenenenenenen?
hi Jacob, i have chosen which pagan to convert to, its CELTIC so that's what i chosen so thank you and thank Dagda that you have a good day
I've felt a real personal connection to Celtic as well and to Lugh! I do have Welsh and Celtic ancestry.
You don't convert to any type of paganism, you just return to your ancestral roots.
i am Canadian but i have Spanish and Dutch background
i am Canadian but actually have Spanish and Dutch ancestry but i do love to be in a paganistic religion
That kind of pagan superstition, like the women scaring bears away by flashing them, is kind of a funny thing in some cultures. There was a similar one amongst east coast Algonquian speaking peoples in the US- women flashing scared away storms, because the winds had made an agreement with the Great Spirit to not mate with human women, so the correct thing to do when they see a vagina is turn the other way. Lol
❤ this comment. That's some serious feminine power, shooing away storms and bears.
Well the time of Sweden's control of Finland is exaggerated for political reasons. The dating begins from unrealiable source and even that considers just a small fraction of the area in the south-west. It proceeded in stages but still some of Finnish areas were actually never under the Swedish rule. It's often told in a way that entire Finland just went under Swedish rule over night :)
Interesting what was important to the Pagan Finns as opposed to the Romans.
The 'vulv' stones.. in the case the two metal items bellow them look very simular to 15th century 'fire strikes'. The stones would fit nicely in the hand, and the groove.. Notice different depths.. may have been made by the repeated strike from the fire strike iron (seen below the stones) to set sparks to light fires.. would be good to know if these items were found together.
Archeologists can make mistakes, so who knows. I know they regularly regarded a common Eastern Woodlands petroglyph as a vagina that was actually the sign for a door into the spirit world & small, perfectly spherical stones were regarded as mortar & pestle aids. Turns out they are literally just marbles- like the children's game.
When did the uralic people's come to Finland
All of the best fights in these northern tales happen on frozen lakes 😂
elk, not deer
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talharpa is also from finns
Modern-day Finns (along with Estonians) are the people genetically the most like the original Mesolithic European hunter-gatherers, but most Finnish men descend from Chinese migrants who introduced pottery to Northern Europe (their genetic marker is called 'haplogroup N1'). Finns have a bit of East Asian admixture because of this, but it seems the Chinese migrants were assimilated into the local hunter-gatherers.
The original haplogroup of Europe was "I", which is the strongest today in Sweden. As you said, Finns are haplogroup N, which came in just a few thousand years ago from the east.
@@Aethuviel Indeed, though there's a mystery around the most common variety of I among Germanic peoples (and Finns): I1, because it was very rare in the Stone Age and only became common after R1 moved into Scandinavia. Most Mesolithic Europeans carried I2 instead.
I’m %1 Finish!lol😂
My great grand parents came from Finland in or around 1902 as a 4th generation Minnesotan I feel a strong connection to Finland and kinda feel like they should of stayed in Finland 😂 . I'm curious as to why they came to the United States in the first place. They should of stuck it out in Finland. Still can't find much on the pajari name though. I found one general with the name in the Finnish army from way back when but I'm not sure if it's related according to my parents.
3:20 doesn't even reference Loki's net
Me with Finnish ancestry from the west coast and a high percentage of Neanderthal DNA: 🧍♀️
Who dat black man in your thumbnail?
Väinamöinen
STRAIGHT OUTTA OULU
Finland was literally a part of Sweden - not a colony, not "that other place", but just Sweden! - for all those centuries you mentioned. :)
swedish rule was not good
I'm from Poland but my ancestors came from Norway so I'm a viking
This is unrelated. I’ve come across A LOT of negative stuff about you. But, I found them to be incredibly unfair to you. Ocean Keltoi and his little group are the ones. But, I’ve found your videos FAR more helpful to me than Ocean’s WOKE cabal. So, for anybody that comes across that BS, don’t let them dissuade you from Jacob.
My only crime is keeping politics out of my content, and I will always keep it that way 👍 Glad you enjoy the videos!
We Finns are more Neanderthal than the the rest of Europe. Thats why we are so different 🇫🇮🫣🙏