I'm really digging how chummy, supportive and affable pre-madness Sephiroth is. It really goes to show how his descent into villainy costs him his humanity.
i have a theory that seph from the first game knows whats going to happen and the devs will set it up to pull a bamboozle and stuns us all. aerith wont die, seph will save her, and at the end of everything will help us set things right.
Technically if one remembers the `Truth` about Cloud, it could simply be intented as seeing Sephiroth in a positive light due to the `experimentations` messing with Cloud`s mental state or a certain someone suppressing the memories of seeing how Sephiroth acted in the past. This is just more of an example of a remake putting a bit more emotion into the characters so it could really just swing many ways, such as the developers wanted to make Sephiroth look nicer pre-Jenova Discovery or its a askewed way of remembering the character thru `tweaked memories`. Hell the fact that Cloud technically having a certain someone`s cells shoved into him, could mean yet another party`s influence likely altering his perception of Sephiroth in a different light to boot. Honestly this is just the major fun that happens once you are familiar with alot of the elements involved in the story that could give drastically different meaning to these kinds of scenes.@@zetascorpii49
Making “Cloud” sound more childish and eager, and having the “useless Soilder” with Tifa sound like Cloud too is an absolutely genius example of a remake of a game like this being able to make great additions to a story
It's close enough that I almost wonder if that isn't Caleb Pierce doing his best Cody Christian impression. If it isn't, then Cody Christian is certainly doing his best Caleb Pierce.
bro clouds voice actor is killin it to represent this character in this time... no spoilers... also, notice the voice on that random grunt soldier who took tifa away? great touches.
That useless nobody of Shinra soldier saw every scene of this duel, dreaming to be one day cool as the fighters. But instead to fight, he focused on protecting Tifa. What a pathetic nobody that will never be a hero. /S ;P
Spoiler? Having your idol turn and kill your entire family and hometown then being used for human experimentation by the company who hired you before having your bff die horribly in front of you miles from your goal may do that to you. Just hypothetically.
@@nelevenchts I think he was trying to bring attention to the differences without overtly spoiling it. Chill, bro, stop tryna ruin it for people who dont know the story
@funkyfranx oh no, I am spoiling a game that came out in 1997? Zack is literally in Remake Part 1, they put the Crisis Core Remaster out, I am pretty sure everyone knows about Zack by now.
@@nelevenchtsI disagree because in the original game, during this memory, Cloud’s model is known as “Young Cloud” and he has a slightly different portrait in the menu too
The choice of words, the inflection in his voice even his body language, I love how much detail they're putting into Cloud with this. Like they know we know so they basically said fuck Spoiler warnings have fun w this
SPOILER . . . . It's great to see Cloud with a more uppity and outgoing attitude, but those personality traits aren't his own, they're Zack's. Cloud's portraying himself as Zack, which is why we're seeing a more outgoing and talkative Cloud. He never actually fought with Sephiroth, but Zack most definitely did.
@@geminuri Cloud does not gain zacks personality nor does he try and copy it. Cloud remembers certain events because Zack talks to him and recalls them on the way back to midgar when cloud is essentially in a mako coma but that’s all it is. He never once acts like zack he’s simply recalling what zack told him mixed with his own actual memory of being there and combining them thinking they’re all his own. The fact SE have made cloud act like Zack here is a massive retcon for fan service which I absolutely hate because it not only doesn’t make any sense, it undermines the original massively.
Yeah, not making a Sephiroth game has certainly been a missed opportunity. But hopefully with them modernizing him now he’ll get something eventually, maybe even a DLC.
There is one. It's called FFVII Ever Crisis and it's ongoing on Mobile. They are talking about making a steam port. The new released chapter is about Sephiroth's youth and his first mission.
Such a good detail that Cloud’s outfit is like Zack’s. And that his voice has that more youthful excitement of Zack. That random Shinra trooper’s voice also sounds quite familiar ;)
Well, in most games you can control Sephiroth he has that move, examples include FF Dissidia Duodecim and Smash Bros Ultimate. Also, I understand the reference heh heh. 😈
I’m always a fan of Cloud with 2 shoulder pads. It’s such a small attention to detail but makes such a huge difference. So cool. Not to mention the shinra ‘grunt’ escorting Tifa. Love it so much. So excited!!
I don't think you're connecting enough of what is happening here to the old story. Think about crisis core again and reflect on what is happening happening here. For instance at the end when that soldier walks back in with Tifa to congratulate them.
@@4OR-Designs I know dude i just wasnt trying to full blown spoil it lol. I’m just saying whenever we see ‘Cloud’ with 2 shoulder pads it always looks so cool bc he never actually did wear the uniform when it was in good condition. And its cool bc it gives a subtle hint for newer fans about the truth.
@@OttotheOtter97 Cloud does have two shoulder pads when Zack gives him the soldier outfit. And hes wearing it all the way up to when he drops Cloud off at Midgar. Between that and meeting Tifa is when the switch to the single pad happens.
@@viralshark True! I read a lot years ago about the small differences in the outfit and the buster sword and I remember seeing that it was just “concept differences” or something like that. Bc back then I was genuinely so curious why Cloud’s shoulder pad had spikes on it and why the buster sword’s design changed so much too (from Crisis Core and other prequel designs). No real explanation, just art design lol. Still so cool tho. I really do like the full on first class soldier uniform on Cloud. It’s always looked good on him rather than his busted up uniform lol
2:08 I didn’t notice this until like my 10th time watching lol But you can really see how Sephiroth is letting “Cloud” take the helm, and using this as a teaching moment. Literally 2 quick slices from Sephiroth and he already cut both the legs he needed to. Then Sephiroth asks “Done?” to “Cloud” where we then see “Cloud” take a little bit longer with more strain than Sephiroth. I think this was a nice little detail to showcase the skill gap between the two!
really cool how you actually get to control sephiroth instead needing some mod to do it like in the original. although I wished they kept the unique strength of sephiroth killing everything with 1 hit whenever it was hit turn.
To be fair from the gameplay I've seen so far, he does kind of tear through everything with relative ease. Even in this fight, Sephiroth hard carries on the damage.
@@zybaguisi2573 Why do we care what he has to offer if he's just slowly chipping away at the health like a normal character? He's supposed to be impressive. This is pure idiocy that they would weaken him to this extent.
i see it more as sephiroth holding back,you can cut someone in haf when you need to but if youre training someone then you might just wanna make some superficial cuts to give the trainie a chance to get hits in aswel. this actualy shows sephiroth is a pretty good teacher/trainer
Sephiroth: It would be a shame if I stopped being a nice guy after learning I was an experiment, and was a pawn all my life. Just throwing that out there.
If you listen carefully at the beginning, when the Shinra Soldier takes Tifa away, he sounds very familiar ;) (Yes, before anyone comments, I know who)
I think it sucks considering cloud never acts like zack and his recalling of this memory is his own, he doesn’t even know who zack even is at this point he simply combines his own memories with the stories zack tells him on their way back to midgar in the truck.
@@ItsSVO It's not only stories, like for Nibelheim, Cloud WAS present. Also, Cloud did act like Zack in the OG unless you forget him getting excited over his 'new materia' and saying word for word the stuff Zack said in the Mako reactor. Aerith even comments early in the OG that Cloud's mannerisms etc remind her of her ex. Yes, Cloud is standoffish when the game starts, but he still takes on a lot of Zack's traits subconsciously.
@@ItsSVO Cloud did get some of Zack's memories and fighting styles thanks to his Jenova cells. This is confirmed in the FFVII Ultimania with Jenova's mimicry ability. Even in the OG Flashback in FFVII, Cloud acts unlike the guy you've seen him as in the Nibelheim Flashback, and is even doing Squats because he's nervous.
Good news! While the Remake version of "Let the Battles Begin" is obviously in Rebirth, the open world sections are using a battle remix of the World Map/Main Theme from the original game. Also, don't forget that Remake had a few variations of the battle theme at some points, so I'd be surprised if we didn't get at least one remix of LtBB.
Semi spoilers ahead: The body language and voice inflexion they gave Cloud really prepares you for the twist that will happen during the third part of the trilogy.
What are you saying? Cloud is always an optimist, self-confident, super strong, always smiling, hero ready to fight monsters head on. He would never be a pathetic and insecure weakling who would focus on protecting Tifa like that nobody of Shinra soldier at the beginning of the scene.
If american people had a brain they would have noticed the shinra trooper who protects tifa in the fight has the same voice as cloud . Thats what I called a detail!
I hope there's an endgame mode where we can play as sephiroth and fight waves on enemies, or something along the lines of that. It would be wasted opportunity if he is playabke in only a single segment.
Anyone notice the musical cue that played when Sephiroth saved Cloud from that last attack? It was just a little bit of "Those Chosen by the Planet", i.e. what plays when Sephiroth burns Nibleheim to the ground. Genius little bit of foreshadowing there.
This game is looking more awesome by the day, they let you control Sephiroth And the interaction between Cloud and Sephiroth felt like they were friends, Cloud seeing Sephiroth as his Hero I got a feeling this game will be great as long as they don’t do some shit like arbitrary of fate whisper crap
@@Leonkennedy19992 Yeah that’s true What I mean is, I hope the story is not dramatically changed by adding whispers or crap like that, time travel or anything that strays from the main story
@csmith3248 yes same. Im new to ff7. Only played original as a kid but never finished midgard. So all of this is new to me so hopefully they keep it original
I really hope we begin Rebirth just on the truck. No explination, no nothing. Just that rainy evening in the back of a transport. And the flashback will be the first like 3 hours of our game. Then when the "showdown" happens thats when it fades to white and reveals it was Cloud telling the story.
But Sephiroth shouldn't even need Cloud's help. In the original game he would have defeated that thing in like a few slashes, each slash taking off a limb. ( this is what happens when they modded it so they could play as sephiroth fighting that monster ruclips.net/video/UIEN9XOin-I/видео.html ) But nope, gotta weaken sephiroth so much that it looks like the boss is barely flinching from his slashes. SO lame how they watered down sephiroth.
@@Vaquix000You're comparing an ARPG to a turn based game. Sephiroth in og did whatever he wanted and you could only select his limit. He primarily spammed quake. If he was too one shot anything that not only takes away from the player involvement esspically since this is the tutorial that's supposed to teach the player how to play. If mt Nibel was apart of the full game from Midgar-ceater sure. Nor is it really nerfing Sephiroth either. In OG he still fights Zack. In CC he still fights Zack. He still gets stabbed by Cloud. He isn't a god. Most of 7 he's hooked up to the planet as a torso. Unfortunately Remake took the mystery behind him away (Sephiroth) but because literally everyone knows who this guy is now it serves no purpose hiding him same way everyone knows Cloud is going to on par with him by the end because of AC, KH, SSB etc. They are humanizing hom because without it he'd be bland because he doesn't have the mystery behind his character that he did in 97. Ffs everyone onows his theme and majority don't even know it's the final boss tfeme of 7 and only plays once. Same way the main FF theme only plays in tge credits of 7. There os a difference between not trying and aiming to delete stuff. Hell he's still strong in ever crisis as a young adult. He's showing the same attitude he had against Angeal & Genisis during their sparing match. Also in OG Sephiroth is standoffish here & they made him confused in CC. Here they actual gave him a playful deminor unlike previous versions which also helps Zack & Sephiroth's relationship after Angeal. Which we only see a glimpse of on top of Junon in CC.
As many people have pointed out, Cloud's mannerisms and way of talking during this flashback are completely incompatible with his personality. Even the head scratch he does at times is totally a Zack thing. The VA also did a great job in capturing Zack's "puppy" personality.
So this is Cloud's self insert fanfiction
His fanfiction where he was a SOLDIER First Class and Tifa was *totally* into him 😏
It kinda is except he really was there with them, notice how the unamed grunt's voice is the same as clouds, that grunt is the real cloud
@@takaharamaragara1392 Ik
@@takaharamaragara1392EXACTLYYY i thought i was just hearing things but it makes complete sense. I love the attention to detail
Cloud is Gay
I'm really digging how chummy, supportive and affable pre-madness Sephiroth is. It really goes to show how his descent into villainy costs him his humanity.
i have a theory that seph from the first game knows whats going to happen and the devs will set it up to pull a bamboozle and stuns us all. aerith wont die, seph will save her, and at the end of everything will help us set things right.
@@MiBrCo4177then who will be the main villian? Jenova reborn?
it so easy to forget that alive sephiroth is just a good guy.
@@Cloofinder destiny manifest as some crazy creature probably
Technically if one remembers the `Truth` about Cloud, it could simply be intented as seeing Sephiroth in a positive light due to the `experimentations` messing with Cloud`s mental state or a certain someone suppressing the memories of seeing how Sephiroth acted in the past.
This is just more of an example of a remake putting a bit more emotion into the characters so it could really just swing many ways, such as the developers wanted to make Sephiroth look nicer pre-Jenova Discovery or its a askewed way of remembering the character thru `tweaked memories`.
Hell the fact that Cloud technically having a certain someone`s cells shoved into him, could mean yet another party`s influence likely altering his perception of Sephiroth in a different light to boot.
Honestly this is just the major fun that happens once you are familiar with alot of the elements involved in the story that could give drastically different meaning to these kinds of scenes.@@zetascorpii49
Cloud is giving me real "Me? Gongaga." Vibes
I love how Cloud sounds just like a certain someone. Nice attention to detail.
I was thinking he sounds like Sora lol
@@theautumnmoon He's supposed to sound like Zack but oh goodness I didn't even think about that lol
He even puts his hands on his hips like zack
@@matthewapril3119and has his battle stance
All he remembers back in nibelheim is zacks memories
5:01 Okay, Cloud’s anime smile face after Sephiroth compliments him is kinda…adorable.
U can play as cloud ill take sephiroth
That was pretty genuine to himself lmao.
It's like two boyfriends
Making “Cloud” sound more childish and eager, and having the “useless Soilder” with Tifa sound like Cloud too is an absolutely genius example of a remake of a game like this being able to make great additions to a story
It's close enough that I almost wonder if that isn't Caleb Pierce doing his best Cody Christian impression.
If it isn't, then Cody Christian is certainly doing his best Caleb Pierce.
@@theevilgood definitely Caleb doing a Zack impression, it’s really good, but there’s a few times where the inflection sounds too much like Cloud
@bread2374 Caleb is Zack.
You mean Cody doing a Zack impression ;)
@@theevilgood yeah that’s what I meant whoops
I didn't even realize he sounded like Cloud until just this time I watched it.
I love how the comments in here are discussing clouds characteristics here without spoiling anything. You guys are the real MVP
It's old game none cares
Well, we can't spoil it for the newbies to the series, let them get the joy we old folks got by piecing everything together. 😉
Yeah, they totally haven’t mentioned Zack and how fake memory Cloud is using the same poses as Zack.
They are the MVP’s!
@@NextiliaDidn’t this game come less than a year ago?
“Such a puppy” 😢😢😢 My god my heart is breaking all over again. This game is going to break me so bad
FFVII CC og ver gud throwback to Angeal's mom description to Zack, the Puppy (Zero attention span , Restless as a Puppy.)
I'm glad the trooper that said "this way" still somehow sounds like Cloud.
For me, somehow it reminds me if sora
3:29 who caught that? “Such a Puppy” lol Angeal’s description of Zack 😭 🐶
I think these are Zack memories in Cloud's head.. Or Sephiroth reference to Angeal words
Oh WOW
Sephiroth is such a chill dude
was a chill dude, anyways...
Now he has a fiery spirit
bro clouds voice actor is killin it to represent this character in this time... no spoilers... also, notice the voice on that random grunt soldier who took tifa away? great touches.
He killed in the first game too
He was amazing in Remake too, his scream when he tries to kill Sephiroth is amazing
@@foxmcfog7809 is there some problem u got where u cant accept my praise for his performance here? u ppl got mental issues bro
That useless nobody of Shinra soldier saw every scene of this duel, dreaming to be one day cool as the fighters.
But instead to fight, he focused on protecting Tifa.
What a pathetic nobody that will never be a hero. /S
;P
@@happypepper9326If you say so. This is a flashback scene and the fight isn’t actually cloud’s. If you’ve played crisis core you know the solider is
Cloud has such an innocent look in his eyes , in the remake his gaze always looks predatory
Spoiler?
Having your idol turn and kill your entire family and hometown then being used for human experimentation by the company who hired you before having your bff die horribly in front of you miles from your goal may do that to you. Just hypothetically.
Its the big pupppy eyes from someone else, actually
@@georgiaz, ding ding.
I didn't think Cloud was a RUclipsr but I guess I just wasn't looking into his eyes 💀
(This is a joke)
Sephiroth's new hair physics make me so happy. It's so flowy.
Like a goddess
This new Sephiroth voice is really growing on me.
Tyler Hoechlin is trying his best and it really shows
Gotta love Superman voicing My Boy Sephie
@@RynLegend I always think back of him as Derek Hale lmao from Teen wolf
Shoot. He grew on me in the first game. He really is good.
He’s definitely improved since Remake. Kudos for that.
"You said you wanted to be a hero"
Flashback to when Zack told Lazard his dream was to be a hero.
Barret: Hold on! When I met you you were level 6!
Being able to play as sephiroth is always a glorious experience
I love the attention to detail that Cloud sounds younger and looks softer/calmer in his expressions.
He's not. His voice might sound younger but if you listen to it, he speaks the way Zack speaks.
@@nelevenchts I think he was trying to bring attention to the differences without overtly spoiling it. Chill, bro, stop tryna ruin it for people who dont know the story
@funkyfranx oh no, I am spoiling a game that came out in 1997?
Zack is literally in Remake Part 1, they put the Crisis Core Remaster out, I am pretty sure everyone knows about Zack by now.
@@nelevenchtsI disagree because in the original game, during this memory, Cloud’s model is known as “Young Cloud” and he has a slightly different portrait in the menu too
The choice of words, the inflection in his voice even his body language, I love how much detail they're putting into Cloud with this. Like they know we know so they basically said fuck Spoiler warnings have fun w this
Also Sephiroth's line "Such a puppy" tells it all ^^
@@nesoukkefka1741when they encounter the mako spring too on the mountain is a big one too
i know right!!!
SPOILER
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It's great to see Cloud with a more uppity and outgoing attitude, but those personality traits aren't his own, they're Zack's. Cloud's portraying himself as Zack, which is why we're seeing a more outgoing and talkative Cloud. He never actually fought with Sephiroth, but Zack most definitely did.
@@geminuri Cloud does not gain zacks personality nor does he try and copy it. Cloud remembers certain events because Zack talks to him and recalls them on the way back to midgar when cloud is essentially in a mako coma but that’s all it is. He never once acts like zack he’s simply recalling what zack told him mixed with his own actual memory of being there and combining them thinking they’re all his own.
The fact SE have made cloud act like Zack here is a massive retcon for fan service which I absolutely hate because it not only doesn’t make any sense, it undermines the original massively.
They really need to make a Sephiroth game at this point. The way they portray his demeanor prior to his madness is on point.
Yeah, not making a Sephiroth game has certainly been a missed opportunity. But hopefully with them modernizing him now he’ll get something eventually, maybe even a DLC.
Maybe when they flesh out the first soldier more in ever crisis, they can turn the story into a whole game itself.
There is one. It's called FFVII Ever Crisis and it's ongoing on Mobile. They are talking about making a steam port. The new released chapter is about Sephiroth's youth and his first mission.
So sephiroth origin confirm
Play Ever Crisis
Honestly pre-insane Sephiroth would have been a cool person to talk with 😂
Pre Madness Sephiroth was a bro
When everyone was anticipating to see sephiroth using his limit break. And they just kill off the boss..
I can’t wait for this game to start with Cloud and Sephiroth in the back of a truck with it raining…..
My god I’m so ready for this game!
Such a good detail that Cloud’s outfit is like Zack’s. And that his voice has that more youthful excitement of Zack.
That random Shinra trooper’s voice also sounds quite familiar ;)
1:47 i cannot believe they let you do that attack, they know what they did.
😢😢
No wonder it kills a certain someone immediately.
Well, in most games you can control Sephiroth he has that move, examples include FF Dissidia Duodecim and Smash Bros Ultimate. Also, I understand the reference heh heh. 😈
This is also his limit technique in FF7 ever crisis
What's the name again?
I’m always a fan of Cloud with 2 shoulder pads. It’s such a small attention to detail but makes such a huge difference. So cool. Not to mention the shinra ‘grunt’ escorting Tifa. Love it so much. So excited!!
I don't think you're connecting enough of what is happening here to the old story. Think about crisis core again and reflect on what is happening happening here. For instance at the end when that soldier walks back in with Tifa to congratulate them.
Is Cloud 1st Soldier?
@@4OR-Designs I know dude i just wasnt trying to full blown spoil it lol. I’m just saying whenever we see ‘Cloud’ with 2 shoulder pads it always looks so cool bc he never actually did wear the uniform when it was in good condition. And its cool bc it gives a subtle hint for newer fans about the truth.
@@OttotheOtter97 Cloud does have two shoulder pads when Zack gives him the soldier outfit. And hes wearing it all the way up to when he drops Cloud off at Midgar. Between that and meeting Tifa is when the switch to the single pad happens.
@@viralshark True! I read a lot years ago about the small differences in the outfit and the buster sword and I remember seeing that it was just “concept differences” or something like that. Bc back then I was genuinely so curious why Cloud’s shoulder pad had spikes on it and why the buster sword’s design changed so much too (from Crisis Core and other prequel designs). No real explanation, just art design lol. Still so cool tho. I really do like the full on first class soldier uniform on Cloud. It’s always looked good on him rather than his busted up uniform lol
Funny thing is Sephiroth could’ve made quick work of that monster but wanted “cloud” to prove himself to be a hero and train him to some degree
Zack
Is that Cloud Fair 😂
No, that’s Zack Strife!
2:08 I didn’t notice this until like my 10th time watching lol
But you can really see how Sephiroth is letting “Cloud” take the helm, and using this as a teaching moment. Literally 2 quick slices from Sephiroth and he already cut both the legs he needed to. Then Sephiroth asks “Done?” to “Cloud” where we then see “Cloud” take a little bit longer with more strain than Sephiroth.
I think this was a nice little detail to showcase the skill gap between the two!
He really tried to replace Angeal for him
@@dis1488pear he was mentoring Zack, rip sephi and Zack
“LEGS ASAP”
“JUST HOLD ON”
BRO IM SO READY FOR THIS GAME!🔥
I like the part when Cloud said 'This way!'
He is also wearing Zacks earrings
but Cloud always had earrings, check his original art.
They took the "Air combat sucks" comments to heart from Remake.
Cloud writing his own doujinshi
I wonder what Sephiroth and Zack would think and say, if Cloud was telling this story to them 🤣
Something something honor something something dreams something something angeal
« Well you never made soldier , but its whats in here that counts «
4:37 that menacing Sephiroth theme
Looking forward to mods that will make Sephiroth playable the entire game.
worth waiting
HE SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE THAT CERTAIN PERSON HOLY SHIT THE VA FUCKING KILLED IT
I like how he calls him a puppy…because you know…cloud and his memory.
really cool how you actually get to control sephiroth instead needing some mod to do it like in the original. although I wished they kept the unique strength of sephiroth killing everything with 1 hit whenever it was hit turn.
Then we wouldnt be able to control him and show us what he has to offer.
To be fair from the gameplay I've seen so far, he does kind of tear through everything with relative ease. Even in this fight, Sephiroth hard carries on the damage.
@@zybaguisi2573 Why do we care what he has to offer if he's just slowly chipping away at the health like a normal character? He's supposed to be impressive. This is pure idiocy that they would weaken him to this extent.
@@Vaquix000 Sephiroth is literally doing 10x as much as Cloud is. each basic swing is doing 90 compared to 9. Seph is ripping the beast apart.
i see it more as sephiroth holding back,you can cut someone in haf when you need to but if youre training someone then you might just wanna make some superficial cuts to give the trainie a chance to get hits in aswel.
this actualy shows sephiroth is a pretty good teacher/trainer
Sephiroth: It would be a shame if I stopped being a nice guy after learning I was an experiment, and was a pawn all my life. Just throwing that out there.
Im new into ff. Only played ff16 and ff7 remake but i do like how the comments knows there is a spoiler but they are not spoiling it.
A hacker will never understand my computer thanks square enix.
can't wait to play this game!!! ...This interaction sound sooo sweet , but so heartbreaking too, knowing the truth .... poor Cloud sweetheart 😭
Pre-madness sephiroth honestly sounds like someone id wanna chum it up with.
this dude is pretty chill before he become mad..
SEPHIROTH EVEN CALLED CLOUD A PUPPY , YA KNOW LIKE ANGEAL AND ZACK. I JUST REFINISHED CRISIS CORE SO THIS game is like a GodSend
If you listen carefully at the beginning, when the Shinra Soldier takes Tifa away, he sounds very familiar ;) (Yes, before anyone comments, I know who)
I like the attention to detail that clouds voice sounds like zack on this part of the game
I think it sucks considering cloud never acts like zack and his recalling of this memory is his own, he doesn’t even know who zack even is at this point he simply combines his own memories with the stories zack tells him on their way back to midgar in the truck.
@@ItsSVO It's not only stories, like for Nibelheim, Cloud WAS present. Also, Cloud did act like Zack in the OG unless you forget him getting excited over his 'new materia' and saying word for word the stuff Zack said in the Mako reactor. Aerith even comments early in the OG that Cloud's mannerisms etc remind her of her ex. Yes, Cloud is standoffish when the game starts, but he still takes on a lot of Zack's traits subconsciously.
@@ItsSVO Cloud did get some of Zack's memories and fighting styles thanks to his Jenova cells. This is confirmed in the FFVII Ultimania with Jenova's mimicry ability. Even in the OG Flashback in FFVII, Cloud acts unlike the guy you've seen him as in the Nibelheim Flashback, and is even doing Squats because he's nervous.
Cloud sound like a baby brother
Never in a million years would i see the reformation of Best Friends, Cloud and Sephiroth.
Can't wait to see cloud breaking even more!!! I love what they are doing with rebirth
Great job by the VA and the animation for this scene. And "Ramirez" in the background 😅
I get emotional every time with those puppy eyes 🥺
The wait for this game is gonna be painful lol
Oh Cloud lol Sephiroth does not need to mix it up, he could easily just one hit kill the thing if he really wanted to
Cloud and his fantasy :))
I love that version of the battle theme but I was hoping a new game would give us a fresh version of it.
Good news! While the Remake version of "Let the Battles Begin" is obviously in Rebirth, the open world sections are using a battle remix of the World Map/Main Theme from the original game.
Also, don't forget that Remake had a few variations of the battle theme at some points, so I'd be surprised if we didn't get at least one remix of LtBB.
OMG, seeing cloud cute happy look makes my heart skip a beat
Semi spoilers ahead:
The body language and voice inflexion they gave Cloud really prepares you for the twist that will happen during the third part of the trilogy.
What are you saying?
Cloud is always an optimist, self-confident, super strong, always smiling, hero ready to fight monsters head on.
He would never be a pathetic and insecure weakling who would focus on protecting Tifa like that nobody of Shinra soldier at the beginning of the scene.
lol you can't spoil a 26 year old game!
I wish he had known who his true mother was... So that he wouldn't had gone mad, and faced that fear... He deserved better
"Such a puppy"
Cloud is like your new game character when you got the bad ending for your first character, all your experience is kept on for your new character.
Is this really Zack instead of cloud
Yes
'Such a puppy' 🥲
What did i just watch 😢 So fucking excited, and they are giving the characters much more life ❤
Zack remembers cloud and Sephiroth team up in crisis core final fantasy 7 reunion
You REALLY can control SEPHIROTH during flashback story?!
peak of fanservice
Seph gets so much character!
That one security officer escorting Tifa away sounds so familiar, no?
Ah you can tell this is indeed indenity crisis cloud in remake now
Oh, February can't come soon enough.
4:00 Cloud: "And while we were fighting that monster, our swords CLASHED and our hair looked cool and Sephiroth had that smug smile and..."
1:46 PTSD incoming
Ooooh so Cloud is hallucinating a bit... I see
From the abridged series of this, glad Cloud in the flashback isn't as tough on Ramirez :X
Abridged Cloud was hellbent on insulting Ramirez.
Tifa:” Cloud wasn’t there. There was sephiroth, Zack and….. Ramirez.”
2:20 "... I'm having no problems here."
XD
If american people had a brain they would have noticed the shinra trooper who protects tifa in the fight has the same voice as cloud . Thats what I called a detail!
Can yall OGs stop spoiling the story for the newbies here who have never played the original like us, god damn😂.
I hope there's an endgame mode where we can play as sephiroth and fight waves on enemies, or something along the lines of that. It would be wasted opportunity if he is playabke in only a single segment.
probably in the Shinra simulations we can play as him again.
RIP, soldier cloud watching Zach and Sephy Duke it out it boss :D
Anyone notice the musical cue that played when Sephiroth saved Cloud from that last attack?
It was just a little bit of "Those Chosen by the Planet", i.e. what plays when Sephiroth burns Nibleheim to the ground. Genius little bit of foreshadowing there.
Great catch!!!
That on me part was more badass than it needed to be.
Cloud sounds different here. Even his speech pattern is different.
There is a good reason for that, which you'll understand if you've played the original FFVII.
That aint Cloud , that is Soldier FIRST CLASS ZACK ON THE JOBBB!
@@UltimaMan i didnt, this is my first experience with anything FFVII. Excited to see how things unfold
@@jerryong4642some kind of delusion or hallucination? or did their memories merged somehow?
@@corxiiifelinike2643he just remembering what zack told him. His memory is fucked.
Seeing the Trine move is inserted into the remake 😭😭😭😭
I love how Sephiroth is so wholesome before he becomes evil and Cloud is acting like Zack
This game is looking more awesome by the day, they let you control Sephiroth
And the interaction between Cloud and Sephiroth felt like they were friends, Cloud seeing Sephiroth as his Hero
I got a feeling this game will be great as long as they don’t do some shit like arbitrary of fate whisper crap
Luckily I dont think so. The whispers already played their part in the first game
@@Leonkennedy19992
Yeah that’s true
What I mean is, I hope the story is not dramatically changed by adding whispers or crap like that, time travel or anything that strays from the main story
@csmith3248 yes same. Im new to ff7. Only played original as a kid but never finished midgard. So all of this is new to me so hopefully they keep it original
@@Leonkennedy19992
I recommend that you play the original and compete it first
It’s a great game even though it’s been over 20 years old
I really hope we begin Rebirth just on the truck. No explination, no nothing. Just that rainy evening in the back of a transport. And the flashback will be the first like 3 hours of our game. Then when the "showdown" happens thats when it fades to white and reveals it was Cloud telling the story.
Cloud is halucinating....that was Zack with Sephiroth
Sephiroth is a badass
They actually gave Cloud Zacks VA for this portion?
No, just doing his best Zack Impression by speaking more positively.
holy shit, i just noticed this. The Mako glow in their eyes is way more noticeable in this one, like their eyes are edging towards creepy.
Poor boss, it was in for a bad day. Cloud and Sephiroth as a team are unbeatable.
But Sephiroth shouldn't even need Cloud's help. In the original game he would have defeated that thing in like a few slashes, each slash taking off a limb. ( this is what happens when they modded it so they could play as sephiroth fighting that monster ruclips.net/video/UIEN9XOin-I/видео.html ) But nope, gotta weaken sephiroth so much that it looks like the boss is barely flinching from his slashes. SO lame how they watered down sephiroth.
@@Vaquix000You're comparing an ARPG to a turn based game. Sephiroth in og did whatever he wanted and you could only select his limit. He primarily spammed quake.
If he was too one shot anything that not only takes away from the player involvement esspically since this is the tutorial that's supposed to teach the player how to play. If mt Nibel was apart of the full game from Midgar-ceater sure.
Nor is it really nerfing Sephiroth either. In OG he still fights Zack. In CC he still fights Zack. He still gets stabbed by Cloud. He isn't a god. Most of 7 he's hooked up to the planet as a torso. Unfortunately Remake took the mystery behind him away (Sephiroth) but because literally everyone knows who this guy is now it serves no purpose hiding him same way everyone knows Cloud is going to on par with him by the end because of AC, KH, SSB etc. They are humanizing hom because without it he'd be bland because he doesn't have the mystery behind his character that he did in 97. Ffs everyone onows his theme and majority don't even know it's the final boss tfeme of 7 and only plays once. Same way the main FF theme only plays in tge credits of 7.
There os a difference between not trying and aiming to delete stuff. Hell he's still strong in ever crisis as a young adult. He's showing the same attitude he had against Angeal & Genisis during their sparing match. Also in OG Sephiroth is standoffish here & they made him confused in CC. Here they actual gave him a playful deminor unlike previous versions which also helps Zack & Sephiroth's relationship after Angeal. Which we only see a glimpse of on top of Junon in CC.
@@Vaquix000 he doesnt you do see hes training him
Activating combat mode
1:47 .......
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thats fuck up, game developers
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As many people have pointed out, Cloud's mannerisms and way of talking during this flashback are completely incompatible with his personality. Even the head scratch he does at times is totally a Zack thing. The VA also did a great job in capturing Zack's "puppy" personality.
Are we finally going to get to see where he puts that big long ass sword when he isn’t using it?😂 how can he just casually cary it around
The Fake Memories of Cloud...
So we are all using sephiroth right?